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Apple Cites 'Courage' As Reason To Remove 3.5mm Headphone Jack (arstechnica.com)

It didn't come as much of a surprise when Apple Senior VP Phil Schiller revealed that the iPhone 7 doesn't feature a headphone jack, since rumors have mentioned this possibility months before the announcement. In fact, what some may find more surprising is Apple's justification. The company cited three reasons why they decided to eighty-six the port, as well as one word: "courage." Ars Technica reports: "[Schiller said] the company can't justify the continued use of an 'ancient' single-use port. He described the amount of technology packed into the iPhone, saying each element in Apple's phones is fighting for space, and it's at a premium. Schiller explained that no company has tried to deliver a wireless experience between your devices and your headphones that fixes the things that are currently difficult to do -- and since there's only one major industry-wide wireless-audio standard, it's easy to assume that he's talking about Bluetooth there (though he didn't say the B-word out loud). To promote Apple's wireless-audio push, Schiller announced the new AirPods, which look mostly identical to the last official Apple earbud model, only with a small piece of plastic replacing the full cord. While Schiller and Apple designer Jonny Ive talked a lot about wireless being 'the future' of audio devices -- and thus being the reason for Apple's 'courage' to move on from the 3.5mm standard -- Apple is curiously not packing those AirPods into new iPhone 7 and 7 Plus boxes. Instead, those devices will ship with the updated Lightning EarPods by default. AirPods will begin shipping in late October and will cost $159."

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  1. Ancient single use port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We can't justify an ancient single use port... Not unlike our proprietary power connectors

    1. Re:Ancient single use port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Their proprietary power connectors that break easily and frequently.

      If Apple had true courage, they'd announce that they were dumping Lightning for USB C. That would have been courage.

      If Apple had true courage, they'd have announced a new open Bluetooth protocol for dealing with higher bitrate audio. That would have been courage.

      Replacing a set of $30 earbuds (or $3 if you avoid the Apple Tax) with a $160 one? That's not courage. That's a cash-grab.

    2. Re:Ancient single use port by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Real courage would've been changing the iPhone connector to USB-C.

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    3. Re:Ancient single use port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes, because one came before the other.

      USB-C has 4 lanes, lightning has 2. USB-C devices started coming out in 2014, but USB3.1 wasn't standardized until 2013, yet motherboards didn't start coming out with them until this year because INTEL. Motherboards have to add chips to support USB 3.1, which takes lanes away from PCIe until Intel integrates a controller for it.

      Lightning (and Thunderbolt) are basically extensions of the PCIe bus. Lightning came out in 2012. So, basically it was Apple's move to Lightning that lit a fire under USB-IF's ass to come out with a better engineered connector and the "alternate mode" system that Lightning/Thunderbolt have.

      To add insult to injury, the micro USB-B connector was selected as the European charging standard. WHOOPS. To which nearly every device still uses their own proprietary cable and power supply for quick charging. So much for that idea.

      What I expect, is by 2020 we will have two USB standards. USB-C for "compact" devices that provide all the services that a "docking port" would have in 1996. So you plug your laptop or iPhone into a USB-C monitor or television and it will switch to the Super MHL 8K profile, while providing 10G-ethernet and 24bit/192khz 22.2 surround sound. None of this is going over wireless, and anyone who thinks so needs their head examined. The second standard which I'll just call "USB-D" for Desktop will be a larger connector that extends 20 PCIe bus lanes. So a laptop or desktop connected to this will shut down it's internal GPU/Audio and connect to the external PCIe bus where an external GPU, Audio processor and USB input hub will be present. The desktop/laptop will still use it's own CPU, RAM and hard drive. This allows the maximum flexibility. If a laptop doesn't have a USB-D port, then it doesn't have 20 PCIe lanes, and may only have 4 (over USB-C, thunderbolt 3 profile)

      As for what such ports would look like, a USB-D port would be a USB-C port (which connects the first 4 lanes) with a small cutout and adds 16 lanes by extending the connector.

    4. Re:Ancient single use port by jabuzz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sony have been doing waterproof phones with a 3.5mm jack that needs no cover for several years now, so claims that they needed to get rid of it to make the phone waterproof are complete and total lies.

      Heck the Z5 even comes with a waterproof microUSB socket that needs no cover. Add in some MicFlip cables and bingo the issue of microUSB not being reversible is also solved.

    5. Re:Ancient single use port by Maritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're not going to see the kind of 'courage' from Apple that involves allowing people to buy their headphones/connectors elsewhere. Make 'em proprietary and make 'em expensive.

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    6. Re:Ancient single use port by Entrope · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shhh, Apple doesn't expect its fans to know anything about competitors. "An uneducated consumer is our best customer", as their motto should say.

    7. Re:Ancient single use port by inflex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      AFAIK, the controller/management chip in the plug portion will not let full power through until it's confirmed the connection itself, part of the orientation smarts.

      Similar to their magsafe as well (Macbook has to validate things before charger is told to deliver full power ).

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  2. LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by ChodaBoyUSA · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Courage" would be to stop making the phone thinner with less battery life and forcing owners to purchase overpriced items. Of course, Apple gets paid by any company that licenses their "Lightning Port" design. Courage? NO, more like GREED.

    1. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They didn't make the phone thinner, they increased the battery size and life, the adapter is not particularly overpriced at $9, and they include one with the phone.

      So... you're saying they do have courage?

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    2. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Courage is a strange way to spell profit. I'll assume that these $159 wireless earplugs don't have replaceable batteries, and it seems they're proprietary, so it's just another recurring profit stream. Since users aren't as willing to upgrade their phones every 2 years (although thinner phones might make them break more easilly, which helps), Apple is searching for a way to get them to upgrade the accessories on a regular basis. There's no benefit to the user, unless they'd like a lighter wallet.

      To quote Jobs: that's brain-dead.

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    3. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can't believe people are still trotting out this pack of rubbish. It has been proven time and time again that Apple didn't Pioneer things like the GUI or the touch screen, et cetera. They stole them and claimed them as their own and their PR convinced us that they're the brave little selfless people that develops all the new tech. If Apple pioneered anything it's the destructive and oppressive business methods that has now spread like cancer. Theft, misinformation and greed have been spread thanks to Apple. And hissy fits.

    4. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by gweilo8888 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh goodie, it's only $9 to have a clumsy unnecessary extra box in my pocket, all so Apple could shave a tenth of a millimeter off the case and boost their accessory and patent licensing profits. What a WIN for the Apple customer!

    5. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

      Drank the Kool-aid, eh? Sure, Apple pushed the keyboard back on laptops. Inline headset control wasn't new with Apple. HP created the 3.5" floppy. Ethernet, which is preponderant, pre-dated LocalTalk, which is long gone. Bonjour isn't significantly different than SSDP. People were ripping CDs long before iTunes (which itself originated outside of Apple).

      There was once a time when Apple sucked less. Now they just suck.

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    6. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      LOL. You give 4 examples to support a claim for lack of "vendor lock-in", but 3 of them are proprietary, and none have the quality of a simple analog jack. What flavor Kool-aid did you get?

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    7. Re:LOL, "Courage"? More like GREED... by Khyber · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "that no longer counts as "proprietary""

      You have no fucking clue what proprietary means. Proprietary means that if I wanted to sell a Lightning adapter of any sorts, I need to pay a licensing fee. Courage would be using an open standard that is unencumbered by PATENTS and thus motivated only for PROFIT.

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  3. Courage vs Ego by gavron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Courage is what others can judge you to have shown.

    Ego is when you call your own decision "courage".

    If they had a good reason they should have said it. Self-claiming courage is a coward move.

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    1. Re:Courage vs Ego by Burz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apple are the Knights Who Say NIH -- Not Invented Here!

    2. Re:Courage vs Ego by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apple is rather unique in that people forget their failures while remembering their successes, or even incorrectly attribute other people's innovations to Apple. For other companies, it's usually the other way around. That's why people joked that Jobs projected a Reality Distortion Field.

  4. Apple is the EpiPen of smart phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Subject says it all. Pure, unadulterated greed with the chutzpah to convince the fanbois that it's worth it...

    1. Re:Apple is the EpiPen of smart phones by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm, no. The EPI pen is life and death. This is a phone. The EPI pen was marketed to schools in what may be illegal dealings. This is a phone. The EPI pen forces you to buy a 2 pack, and has a very short shelf life. This is a phone - apple sells others, other companies sell others. This is a phone.

      And Apple has sold roughly a billion phones. Are you saying that there are that many fanbois out there? If so, maybe you're the odd one - the fanboys are the normals.

      And, this is a phone. Its a great camera in your pocket, but it's a phone.

  5. Or the actual reason(s) by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Per a Buzzfeed interview, summarized by MacRumors:

    The idea for the removal of the headphone jack was raised during the development of the iPhone 7. In a nutshell, the "driver ledge" for the display and backlight, traditionally placed near the camera, was interfering with the new camera systems in the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus, leading Apple to explore other placement options. It was moved near the audio jack, but it also caused interference with various components, including the audio jack itself, so Apple engineers toyed with the elimination of the jack altogether.

    When the headphone jack was removed, Apple realized it was easier to install the new Taptic Engine for the pressure-sensitive Home button, implement a bigger battery, and reach an IP7 water resistance rating, so the elimination of the headphone jack became essential for all of the other features in the iPhone 7.

    Apple executives also believe the headphone jack is outdated technology that needed to go to make room for new advancements. According to Dan Riccio, it was holding Apple back "from a number of things" the company wanted to add to the iPhone, taking up space that could be used for camera improvements, battery, and processors.
    "The audio connector is more than 100 years old," Joswiak says. "It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn't been touched since then. It's a dinosaur. It's time to move on." [...]

    For Dan Riccio, Apple's senior vice president of hardware engineering, the iPhone's 3.5-millimeter audio jack has felt something like the last months of an ill-fated if amicable relationship: familiar and comfortable, but ultimately an impediment to a better life ahead. "We've got this 50-year-old connector -- just a hole filled with air -- and it's just sitting there taking up space, really valuable space," he says.
    According to Apple's Phil Schiller, there's no ulterior motive behind the move away from the 3.5mm headphone jack. "We are removing the audio jack because we have developed a better way to deliver audio. It has nothing to do with content management or DRM -- that's pure, paranoid conspiracy theory," he said.

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    1. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > It has nothing to do with content management or DRM -- that's pure, paranoid conspiracy theory," he said.

      Yeah, that's just a nice, completely unexpected side benefit.

      > "The audio connector is more than 100 years old," Joswiak says. "It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn't been touched since then. It's a dinosaur. It's time to move on." [...]

      Also, it still works. With any pair of headphones or any gear, purchased from any store. That's why we like it.

      This is just Apple ensuring that everyone (at least, all Apple fans) must pay the Apple tax on every bit of hardware.

    2. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn't been touched since then. It's a dinosaur. It's time to move on."

      You know, fine. I don't disagree with this idea. It's an old port that takes up a lot of space, and it's time to move on by replacing it with something better. What's the replacement here?

      You can use Bluetooth, which I haven't found to be a very good solution. Someone's going to say that I'm crazy, but I've had problems with various devices where the connection drops or is unreliable. I've had experiences where I've had problems with pairing, and the process of unpairing and repairing every time you want to connect to a different device is unwieldy. Plus, I just don't like having another battery that I need to keep charged. I want a simple and reliable wired solution. Bluetooth is out.

      Apple's other offering seems to be the lightning connector. You know, I wouldn't mind, but then they need to make it an open standard and get others to adopt it. Make it USB type-D micro, or something. Convince everyone to make it a standard connector for peripherals where you want a smaller connector than USB type-C. Make it the new universal standard for headphone ports, and get it installed everywhere. But they haven't done that. They don't even have lightning ports on their computers. Lightning isn't a standard, and no one else is using it. So Lightning is out.

      So come up with something else that replaces the existing port, but is better, more convenient, easier to use, and able to provide even better audio quality. Then convince every manufacturer of audio equipment to use this new standard. *Then* get rid of the old port.

    3. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by slimjim8094 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't doubt that those are the actual reasons, but that's not really the point. All it means is that they're pushing off their (engineering) problems on their users. Apple has a long history of deprecating stuff that (at the time) people thought was premature - but in essentially all the other cases it turns out that the new thing really is better. Serial ports, the floppy drive, non-USB connectors, CD drives in laptops, even replaceable batteries - there are tangible benefits to switching to the new thing, and they usually relate to speed, capacity, or physical size.

      The headphone jack is slightly thicker than a Lightning connector (the only remaining jack) - but they didn't make the phone thinner to take advantage of the extra depth. And other than the connector itself a Lightning headphone is worse in every way, because headphones are driven by your ear technology, not the phone's. The newest fanciest Lightning headphones in 5 years (assuming this decision sticks) will never be more than today's headphones plus a built-in Lightning dongle.

      What does this decision get me as a user? Let's go through. Headphones are headphones; there's two channels of audio that are the result of a varying electrical signal. I don't really care what the cord to the device looks like and considerations like "do these phones work with other things? do other phones work with this?" easily dominate that area. I guess this lets them use a little extra power but there was already more than enough output to damage your ears. If there were wild battery life improvements... maybe? But someone on the other thread did the math and a headphone jack's volume of battery is good for ~12 minutes. Meh. What about water resistance? Other phones have no problems with the IP67 rating and a headphone jack - I have no doubt that it was easier for Apple's engineers, but Apple used to not push their problems on their users.

      So what does that leave? They wouldn't be able to have a force-sensitive home button? Honestly I'd rather have the headphone jack. Or just get rid of the home button - it works just fine for Android - or at least make it oblate or rectangular rather than round.

      I have had every non-S model iPhone since the 3G, so I'm "due" to buy this one. In addition I have apps that I rely on that only work on iOS. It should be a slam dunk. But... honestly? I knew someday I'd lose the reason to buy an iPhone, and this might be that day. Not just the headphone jack, but the whole package. It doesn't look like a bad phone as such, but the only thing I'm really interested in is the waterproofing. And I'm not careless enough with my phone that getting it ruined is a big risk. The headphone jack thing isn't a dealbreaker, mostly because I don't listen to music much on my phone, but it's damn close.

      Honestly Apple is just out of ideas. I bought a new MBP last year and it was the first hardware purchase I made in my entire life that I wasn't excited about. Roughly as functional as the 5-year-old one it replaced, more in some ways and less in others, but the same price. I needed a new one because the older one wasn't really working but boy did they manage to turn something I used to enjoy into something kind of boring and depressing. I'm still annoyed about the large size of the smallest iPhone still available - I was in London a few months ago and had to use my (out of contract and unlocked) iPhone 5, and it was sooooo nice. I assumed I'd gotten used to the wider width, but nope - and I didn't miss the extra screen at all.

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    4. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by kencurry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... Lightning isn't a standard, and no one else is using it. So Lightning is out.

      So come up with something else that replaces the existing port, but is better, more convenient, easier to use, and able to provide even better audio quality. Then convince every manufacturer of audio equipment to use this new standard. *Then* get rid of the old port.

      In the keynote, they showed a pair of JBL wired noise-cancelling headphones that used lightning. so, there are some third parties chipping in now. Not saying I love this decision, but you have to admit Apple's track record on these changes is decent enough to give it a chance.

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    5. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by Dog-Cow · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apple is the one company who pushed for, and got, major studios to release non-DRM media. This whole slashdot meme where Apple lives on DRM is just a delusion. It's the slashdot RDF. Apple doesn't even protect their OS, and only go after people trying to sell hackintoshes.

    6. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > "The audio connector is more than 100 years old," Joswiak says. "It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn't been touched since then. It's a dinosaur. It's time to move on." [...]

      "The tire is almost 200 years old. It had its last big innovation about 70 years ago (radial tires). It's time to move on," Joswiak said, when asked why the new Apple car uses spider legs.

      I mean seriously, what does the age of a technology have to do with whether it is the best choice for its particular purpose? I've never read a more mind-blowingly ignorant comment from a major corporate exec in my entire life.

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    7. Re:Or the actual reason(s) by Xest · · Score: 4, Funny

      I shudder to think what the iPhone 8 will be like when they find out that the capacitor is nearly 275 years old.

  6. Re: Single use? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You left out antenna for the FM radio. Oops, the iPhone never had an FM radio, something even cheap flip phones have had pretty much forever. Apple is no longer a leader in innovation, which is why their market share continues to drop. Looks like Tim Cook cooked their goose.

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  7. Re: Single use? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, Nexus phones don't support FM either.

    I guess Californian hipsters designing these things don't have any decent radio stations or have enormous data plans. FM is built into every Qualcomm SoC, iirc.

    LG recently released a phone with DAB+ digital radio; maybe that will catch on instead.

  8. Bluetooth headsets by nitehawk214 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not that I care, as I do not own any apple stuff, but I have not seen a bluetooth headset that was not absolute shit.

    I had a phone earpeice thing from plantronics that was worse than simply using the speakerphone in the car. When the thing would actually stay connected the speaker was inaudible. When I could hear the other side, my mic would not pick up.

    Bought some LG headphones, failed within 2 months. And in those 2 months it was nearly impossible to get the things to stay connected. Press the connect button, beeps loudly, searches for phone, gives up. Bought earbuds, returned the next day. Worthless.

    Bluetooth audio is complete garbage.

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  9. Re:Courage by fluffernutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also they did that with Thunderbolt, and look at the plethora of peripherals available toda.. oh, wait..

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  10. Re: For those of us who don't speak American by hackwrench · · Score: 3, Informative

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... suggests several sources.

  11. One by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another problem is that there is only ONE single use port. I usually listen to music while my phone is plugged in, and to my knowledge there is no way to both listen with the headphone dongle and have the device plugged in.

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  12. Re:Courage by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is different than merely changing a connector or protocol. Now headphones have gone from a passive device to an active device that needs its own power source. How long does the battery last on these earpods? Can it easily be changed?

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  13. Re: Single use? by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as they close the analog hole - Riaa will be happy!

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  14. Re:Courage by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a site specifically for mac compatible stuff, and even they only have 4 categories under 'Thunderbolt'. There is only one hub to choose from, and it is $218.

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  15. Re:Courage by markdavis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >The dongle comes with the phone.

    So what?
    You will never have it when you need it unexpectedly.
    The thing is going to stick out, interfering with carrying the phone, making it bulky and unruly.
    It is likely to break or get lost.
    It is just plain irritating.

    It is a good thing I have no interest in "iphones", I just hope the other phone makers reject this stupid idea.

  16. Re:Never a shortage of Apple hate by Flentil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The concern is that all the other manufacturers will do the same, and everyone's earbuds/headsets will be useless or need adapters.

  17. Re: Single use? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are some other little niche devices that used the headphone jack as well, for example some company made a diabetes tester that did so, which meant it could be compatible with other smartphones. But now they're making a lightning port version to replace it.

    Though based on my own experience on logging health stats from another (non diabetes) chronic condition, I have to say that I've found smartphone based devices to be overall less convenient than using traditional devices combined with my own custom Google Sheets based logging system.

  18. Re: Single use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To a lot of people the main point of radio isn't music, it's reliability. I know I can tune in to the radio during natural disasters and get up to date information about what's going on. In many of those situations phone, data, and cable will all be knocked out. Radio's very robust.

  19. Re:Courage by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You do realize how completely unalike those two examples are, right?

    Removing the floppy drive wasn't a big deal because USB floppy drives provided a viable alternative, and internal floppy drives were still available for portable devices for three or four years after Apple removed them from the desktop (all the way through the Pismo).

    Adapters for portable devices suck. Adapters for ultraportable devices like phones suck absolutely.

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  20. Re:Damn right it's courage by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, they provided a copout. It came down to a choice between slightly better speakers that most people will never use anyway (because it is usually rude) or a headphone jack that lots of people use every day, and they made the wrong call. I've already (since the announcement) heard three people who have used iOS for years say that they're seriously considering switching to Android because of this. That number represents about 50% of the iPhone users in my team at work, and 100% of the iPhone users who were present at the time. I know that anecdotes aren't data, but if Apple's upper management isn't absolutely scared sh**less right now, then they don't deserve to be there.

    From where I'm sitting, if the case manufacturers don't save Apple from themselves by building cases with built-in headphone jacks, this will probably mark a turning point where Apple rapidly accelerated their descent into niche-playerdom. There's a very small chance I'm wrong, and that the iOS users that I know are all just the 1% of power users that Apple doesn't care about anymore. For the sake of my Apple stock, I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.

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  21. Re:Courage by aXis100 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not only that, but everyone hated floppy's. They were slow, had poor capacity, and were unreliable. When USB storage came on the scene it was a massive improvement and has only continued to get better.

    By comparison I dont know many people who have a problem with wired headphones. I've had a few wireless sets over the year and for portable applications they've mostly sucked due to having two batteries to worry about.

  22. Re:Courage by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    You'll wait quite a while for that adapter. Per the Apple Accessory Interface Specifcation (R25) you cannot make splitter cables. Ever. One connection on each end of the cable, and only certain combinations at that. IF you find such a cable, it's using grey-market chips from some random Chinese vendor - and who knows how well or how long it will work. But as it exists today (and at least for the next 2 months), splitter cables are forbidden. So it's going to be cables and hub, not just a cable.

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  23. Re: Single use? by Pentium100 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because unlike Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and other online streaming services... FM does not require the use of an internet connection. A lot of cellphone service providers charge for the service based on data transferred (unlike wired internet connections where you usually pay for the connection bandwidth (like 300mbps or whatever), but then can use it 100% and will not need to pay more).

    Also, FM radio receiver can use very little power, compared to the cellphone transmitter which needs to be active to use the internet connection.

  24. Re: Single use? by Gussington · · Score: 3, Informative

    Square's mag-stripe card reader is obsolete - it can't read chip & PIN cards, or contactless.

    I have a Square card reader that does chip & PIN using the headphone jack: https://squareup.com/au/reader

  25. Re:Courage by Maritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That way in about 6 months every phone would have that connector and any set of earbuds would work with it.

    "Any set of earbuds" working with iPhone was clearly killing Apple. That's precisely the 'problem' they set out to solve - how do we stop people using headphones with our phones that they didn't buy from us?

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  26. Re: Single use? by Pentium100 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I sometimes want to hear new music (or rather, old music I haven't heard before), I also like the lack of control with radio and the occasional traffic announcements or news segments.

    I listen to radio at work (I use an actual radio and not my phone though). The radio station even announces each hour, so I do not have to keep looking at the clock.

    If I play music on my PC (say, I am at home), I always feel the urge to choose the next song, so, I end up spending more time choosing and playing music (and skipping songs) than I was planning to do while listening to music. If I listen to radio or play a tape, I do not get that urge, so I spend more time doing whatever I was planning to do. Listening to radio I do not get the urge to skip a song even if I do not particularly like it (there is some music that would make me tune to another station - thankfully my favorite station does not play it).

    And radio has the advantage over tapes in that it sometimes plays a song I haven't heard before, but like.

  27. Re: Single use? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why on earth would Apple want you to listen to free FM radio?

    iTunes is a big part of their business and selling bigger data plans makes their carriers happy. FM radio is lose-lose from their point of view.

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  28. Re: Single use? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All my family's iPhone earbuds are still unopened as well, even going back to the older ones wrapped in a plastic band instead of a case. Never used, not once.

    The reason for that is the quality is so crappy they're unusable. You can get some pretty amazing quality wired headphones for under $100 on black friday. Last year I got an amazing deal on some SoundSports at $50 each. Compared to cheap headphones, you can actually hear so much more detail in the music it's like a whole different song.

    Besides using my phone with multiple different sets of headphones, there's 2 cars I regularly listen in. I am not carrying an adapter every where with me and I am not buying 6 more adapters to leave them on every 3.5" pin I use often.

    On the bright side, this got me to try a Note 7. Wow is Apple ever living in the stone age. Just have the "courage" to spend a few days seriously giving it a go. I will never go back to Apple. The edge panels alone are worth the courage to switch. And the display on the Note is simply amazing.