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AAPS Doctors Run Survey On Hillary Clinton's Health (prnewswire.com)

schwit1 PR Newswire: Concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious -- could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.," say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were "likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records." Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern." While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis. More than 78% said the health concerns had received "not enough emphasis" in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis." Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate's fitness to serve for health reasons should "make the concerns known to the public." Only 11% said a physician should "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient," and 10% that the candidate's health was "off limits for public discussion." A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the "well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has." Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton's statement that Hillary suffered a "terrible" concussion requiring "six months of very serious work to get over." The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.

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  1. Clickbait troll much? by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without actually examining her, how much faith can we put in their opinions?

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    1. Re:Clickbait troll much? by jandersen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean you dont trust a neocon "physicians" group?

      Be that what it may; but if we should be worried about the health of Ms Clinton because of these relatively common ailments, why was it not disqualifying that Reagan kept getting skin cancer? And if I remember correctly, he also, allegedly, suffered from Alzheimers. I think at some level we all know why: the people that attack Clinton, don't really care about the truth of their attacks, they just hope that if they make enough noise, then people will think there is a real problem. There is something deeply obscene about the way these people behave - whether they call themselves 'Alt-right' or whatever. I just hope the huge majority of decent and good people in America don't passivley allow themselves to be taken hostage.

    2. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's exactly correct: no merit whatsoever.

      From the description given (especially considering the lack of information about the "squealing noise"), you wouldn't have any evidence indicating whether the failure is a jammed fan, POST failure, PSU failure, bad electrical supply, or a rodent living inside. Some of those can be repaired, and some can not. Some are a threat to the computer's continued operation, and some are easily mitigated.

      Mastering a subject means you know what's reasonable. I wouldn't expect to see a bad electrical supply in the United States. On the other hand, it also means you know what's possible... on aircraft and military systems, 400Hz is not uncommon, and can cause some PSUs to fail in exciting ways. If you are claiming to be an expert in computer repair, you should follow up his description with several questions to ascertain precisely what symptoms are presented, rather than jumping to a conclusion to appear helpful. Unless this "someone" can provide the level of detail necessary for an accurate diagnosis, a direct evaluation is absolutely necessary.

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    3. Re:Clickbait troll much? by nanoflower · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Really? So you've never had a coughing fit. I get them whenever some dust or whatever gets stuck in the back of my throat. It can sometimes take a few minutes to clear it out. So I see nothing surprising about someone who is giving speeches and talking all day long finding themselves coughing on occasion. Now if she were to appear completely out of breath or otherwise severely impacted by the coughing then maybe you might have a point. However you can watch videos and see she keeps the speech going even while trying to clear her throat.

    4. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      even if 99% of them are fake

      Getting your government buddies in the FBI and attorney general's office to look the other way doesn't mean the scandal is fake. It just means you're too well connected to be prosecuted for your crime.

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    5. Re:Clickbait troll much? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Regardless of the hype machines, this election, more than any in recent memory, should be one where the Vice Presidential candidates are as closely scrutinized as the Presidentials. Trump would be the oldest president ever at time of election - his plastic surgery and makeup may make him look reasonably healthy, but even if he doesn't go senile in office, he's more of a lightning rod for assassination (think: anxious foreign powers) than even Obama was.

      Hillary may be a chick, but she too has seen too many springs, and has not led the pampered life of a private sector CEO / television star. And the senility question looms large for her as well.

    6. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Be that what it may; but if we should be worried about the health of Ms Clinton because of these relatively common ailments...

      A head concussion that put her in the hospital and took months to recover from (as stated by her husband who if anything has reason to downplay, not exaggerate) is a "relatively common ailment"? Really? News to me! I haven't heard of a single person in my fairly large sphere who has suffered anything similar.

      Cerebral sinus thrombosis is a condition affecting the ability for blood to drain from the brain and can result in symptoms ranging from "just" headaches (90% of sufferers) up to fainting, seizures (40%), and strokes. Additionally, in older people, like say a person 68 years old, it can also cause "unexplained changes in mental status and a depressed level of consciousness". It occurs in about 3-4 per million adults, or about 1,000 cases in the US. That is a "relatively common ailment" and not a reason to be concerned about her ability to function as president?

    7. Re:Clickbait troll much? by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Neocons *DO* hate Trump. Almost as much as they hate Cruz.

      But this is so easily forgotten. Trump should be polling about 12%, but his appeal isn't to Republicans or Democrats. It's to Americans, like cabbies, baristas, janitorial staff, working stiff, the like.

      Sure, his glad handing and big smiles to the 'little people' is part corporate charm and part smarm, and calculated to some extent to further his corporate goals, but here's what Trump is that no one but Trumpies want to admit - he's successful, in large part, because he knows what to sell, how to sell, and how to get it done.

      In this season, I take the huckster rather than the crook. The huckster, sure, will make sure he gets paid in the end, and I'm likely to get something. The crook will strip me bare and is followed by vultures to pick my bones clean.

      All politicians lie, they must, for none of them can accomplish what they claim to want without cooperation somewhere. Politics is all a scratch and dent sale. Give me one that works, and I can forgive the dents.

      And yes, Hillary is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption. The facts are plain. Her tenure on the Watergate Commission was not an aberration, it was a preface to her life. Trump, being a real estate developer, has done some shady things. Who among us is without sin? Who will cast the first stone, and not be a hypocrite?

      But vote your conscience. It's all you can honestly do.

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    8. Re:Clickbait troll much? by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My only beef with Clinton comes down to her *willful* flaunting of the law about State documents and email on a private server.

      That. Is. Not. Okay.

      The classification of the material is actually irrelevant, the law is crystal clear and she violated it. Those e-mails have to be audit-able. I get that the state dept servers blow chunks, and that realistically you have to work around them, so set up a parallel server on *government* machines that you can use. That way they are still part of the audit and backup process.

      She'll be another Nixon. Willing to flagrantly delete evidence rather than not doing things that are really bad in the first place.

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    9. Re:Clickbait troll much? by amRadioHed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Trump is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption. Real corruption too, not just accusations flung repeatedly until something sticks. And he's the one with the well documented history of stealing people's money and leaving them with nothing. I can understand why Trump projects his flaws onto Clinton, but I'm not sure what other people get out of it.

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    10. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Ksevio · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hillary is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption.

      And Trump has been documented to lie many times over the course of a week, advocates for war crimes, and admits he plays a part of the corruption in the political system (plus he was recently fined by the IRS after bribing a judge). If you're looking for the cleaner candidate, you won't find it in Trump.

    11. Re:Clickbait troll much? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      but even if he (Trump) doesn't go senile in office,

      Why wait to worry about that. He (conveniently) can't remember saying things that are -- literally -- on video tape *now* -- like supporting the war in Iraq (video w/Howard Stern) and military intervention in Libya (video w/Matt Lauer). Though, to be fair, even Matt Lauer didn't remember Trump supporting the latter, despite The Daily Show Uncovers Video with Trump Telling Lauer He Supports War on Libya

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    12. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymice · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the thing about Trump, I'm not so sure he's as much a liar as a fantasist. He's so enveloped in his own idolatry, he really believes in what he says - even if it's completely contradictory to whatever he said 5 minutes previous. He's got his own Ministry of Truth constantly churning away in his head.

    13. Re:Clickbait troll much? by admiralh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Trump is two years older than HRC.

      Also, have you looked at Trump's waistline? The suits hide a lot of it, but it seems quite unhealthy to me.

      Trump also sat for the entire CiC interview while Hillary stood during various portions of it.

      And Hillary has released a professional statement from her doctor while Trump's doctor released a statement that sounded like it was written for Kim Jung Un.

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  2. Disgraceful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has no place on slashdot. It is extremely offensive to the memory of a once fantastic tech site.

  3. what's the medical equivalent of 'hearsay' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have hoped "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient" would have gotten a higher percentage of the response

  4. WTF kind of garbage post is this? by amacbride · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I get that this is in the Politics section, but really? PRNewswire? On an Internet poll run by an organization no one's ever heard of?

    Sheesh.

  5. Completely unreliable poll format by plsuh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "...responding to an informal internet survey"

    That pretty much says it right there. The numbers in this survey can be given about zero credence. There is no sign of vetting of the responders (are they even really MD's?), no pretense at a representative sample, and no sign that there was any attempt at all to prevent ballot stuffing.

    There were also no questions concerning Donald Trump's health, which makes me think that this group is partisan and has an axe to grind.

    Editors, can we please not publish click-bait non-news like this? I'd like to downvote the whole damn story.

  6. FUD at its finest by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the hell is this crap and why is it on slashdot? When did slashdot turn into the Rush Limbaugh show? "Concerns" about Hillary's health are made up FUD by the right. Nothing more. Oooh, she got a concussion... (not) scary. Her health is certainly nothing worse than Dick Cheney's was. Ronald Reagan reputedly showed signs of dementia while still in office.

    This "survey" is funded by a conservative group which has nothing to do with the real practice of medicine and certainly no interest in actual scientific facts. I'm disappointed the slashdot editors posted this drivel.

  7. Why was this approved? by inicom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a) nothing to do with slashdot's "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters".
    b) blatantly partisan
    c) questionable news source

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  8. Not that anyone will see this, but I'm done here. by sirwired · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been a reader of Slashdot since before they even had user accounts, and if I had felt like making my first comment with an account sooner, would have easily landed a 4-digit UID. I have a couple thousand comments to my name (though not many over the past couple of years), excellent karma, and a long history on this site. I've always been impressed with the commenting/moderation system, which I think remains the site's biggest innovation/strength, and one that I wish more websites would use to get control of their comment sections.

    But over the years, I've watched Slashdot become less and less interesting as the quality of stories has gotten lower and lower. But this is the last straw.

    Rarely have I seen the commentariat completely united in pointing out that this story was a bad idea:
    - It's purely political with zero tech content.
    - It's a direct repost from PRNewsWire
    - It's all about a pathetic self-selected internet survey
    - It comes from a group so political, it might as well be called "Doctors Against Filthy Liberals"

    The comments section of Slashdot can be lively and interesting, but only if the editors pick something other than pathetic troll-bait to get the discussion going, and they've fallen down on that job horribly. Rob & co. knew how to get a discussion going; the latest bunch alternate between click-bait and the most abstruse and boring tech stories they can find.

    After nearly 20 years with Slashdot, I'm done. I'm deleting the Slashdot feed from my RSS reader, and I guess it'll go on (or not) without me.

  9. Re:Look at the source by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Thank you for grabbing my attention with this. I will likely be breaking with the Libertarian party this year and voting Democrat, including Clinton. All in all, even if Clinton has Parkinson's, I'll still be voting for her.

    This topic is interesting to me, however, because I think there is definitely something not quite right going on with her. Perhaps she needs to get her human suit refit aboard the lizard person mothership? (Hmm, maybe that's what she was actually doing all August!)

    I just simply cannot do my usual "I don't give a fuck straight ticket Libertarian" thing this year given the rise of the alt-right. My state isn't a "battleground" state according to the pundits, but I'd sort of beg to differ. It regularly flips from a red to a blue state and flops back again every 4-8 years or so. I hear people spouting off alt-right shit all over the place, here and the other site, at the gas station, the grocery store, etc. It scares the bejeezus out of me.

  10. What kind of morons let this drivel pass? by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The [Association of American Physicians and Surgeons] is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations".

    Way to go. Slashdot has been reduced to giving anti-vaxxers and homophobes and fundamentalist nut cases an uncritical platform to publish propaganda about a presidential candidate.

    Nice work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

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  11. Re:SHUTUP PUTIN! by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, the Democrats want access to your medical records so that they can keep you from buying a gun. If you are fine with that then what's the problem with putting Clinton's medical records on display? I seem to vaguely recall the occasional physical of presidents being a minor news item. You want these people to expose themselves for financial reasons, why not medical?

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