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AAPS Doctors Run Survey On Hillary Clinton's Health (prnewswire.com)

schwit1 PR Newswire: Concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious -- could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.," say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were "likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records." Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern." While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis. More than 78% said the health concerns had received "not enough emphasis" in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis." Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate's fitness to serve for health reasons should "make the concerns known to the public." Only 11% said a physician should "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient," and 10% that the candidate's health was "off limits for public discussion." A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the "well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has." Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton's statement that Hillary suffered a "terrible" concussion requiring "six months of very serious work to get over." The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.

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  1. Look at the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look at the source. This groups says HIV isn't the cause of AIDS. This group says being gay itself shortens life expectancy. I am in no way a Hillary fan, in fact the thought of either of these two running the country makes me say, however this group is a joke and this stance matches every other hard right stance they take.

    This is damn near more a political group than a true medical group anyone should listen to.

    1. Re:Look at the source by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to Wikipedia, 'The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."'

      Even if we reject the "politically conservative" categorisation, I'd say that quoted aim casts doubt on their neutrality here.

  2. Non Partisan my Ass by blackpaw · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine"

    Says all you need to know about them.

    1. Re:Non Partisan my Ass by Maritz · · Score: 1, Informative

      Link a 'seizure' video. You can't. Go back to 4chan, twat.

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  3. This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to comme by Elfich47 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is why psychiatrists/psychologists are not allowed to comment on the health of people who are not directly under their care. If you don't know what is going, you can't make a reasonable assessment of the subject's health. Doctors who have not reviewed the patient's medical file and made an examination of the subject should shut up because they do not have all of the information needed to make an accurate assessment.

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  4. Do editors even bother anymore? by ugen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do slashdot editors even bother checking sources? Or have this site finally found found its place among tabloids? LMGTFY - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons ("The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."[1][2] The group was reported to have approximately 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014....The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited theories, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations."

    I do find it interesting that even these shills were only able to muster 250 out of 5000 members to sign this crap. I guess even in that group 95% are not willing to completely disavow their responsibility as doctors. In that they are already better humans than whatever slashdot editor that posted this.

  5. Re:Clickbait troll much? by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You mean you dont trust a neocon "physicians" group? Here is what AAPS is:

    "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine"

  6. aaps by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Informative

    The AAPS is the group that sued to invalidate Obamacare.

    That doesn't make them wrong, but I'd like to see more on their methodology; how many of the physicians didn't respond to the poll? How did they select respondents? Was it random, or was it based on membership in their organization?

    Incidentally, Open Secrets shows that AAPS only donates to Republicans (unless they have some kind of sub-lobbying group or something).

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  7. Not a 'real' group. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are countless faux doctor groups. This is one of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."The group was reported to have approximately 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014. Notable members include Ron Paul and John Cooksey. Ron Paul's son, Rand Paul, was a member for over two decades until his election to the U.S. Senate.

    In 2004, AAPS filed a brief on behalf of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh in Florida's Fourth District Court of Appeal, opposing the seizure of his medical files in an investigation of drug charges for Limbaugh's alleged misuse of prescription drugs. The AAPS stated the seizure was a violation of state law and that 'It is not a crime for a patient to be in pain and repeatedly seek relief, and doctors should not be turned against patients they tried to help.'"

    The next year, AAPS helped appeal the conviction of Virginia internist William Hurwitz, who was sentenced to 25 years in federal prison for prescribing excessive quantities of narcotic drugs after 16 former patients testified against him. Hurwitz was granted a retrial in 2006, and his 25-year prison sentence was reduced to 4 years and 9 months.

    The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed or the Web of Science. The quality and scientific validity of articles published in the Journal have been criticized by medical experts, and some of the political and scientific viewpoints advocated by AAPS are not held by mainstream scientists and other medical groups.

  8. All you need to know about these dickheads: by Maritz · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Wikipedia.

    "The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited theories, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast"cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations."

    Well that explains that.

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  9. Re:what's the medical equivalent of 'hearsay' by Maritz · · Score: 4, Informative

    These jokers are obviously 'doctors' second to 'political hacks'.

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  10. Re:Its a push poll, its a push poll by Maritz · · Score: 2, Informative

    she's been having problems with siezures and freezing up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    No seizure in either of those. Other than that, well done. Turns out being a Drumpf fan makes you hallucinate seizures. Probably not that surprising.

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  11. Re:Clickbait troll much? by alexhs · · Score: 5, Informative

    250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey

    Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack;

    only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis."

    6/250 corresponds to 2,4%
    7/250 corresponds to 2,8%
    Are the opinions even real, or are the results doctored ?

    informal internet survey

    On the Slashdot polls of old, there was a mention that if you were taking the results seriously you were crazy. Applies just as well here.

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  12. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Speaking of sources, what is the source of your quote? The AAPS website describes the group this way:

    "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons - AAPS - is a non-partisan professional association of physicians in all types of practices and specialties across the country.

    Since 1943, AAPS has been dedicated to the highest ethical standards of the Oath of Hippocrates and to preserving the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship and the practice of private medicine.

    Our motto, "omnia pro aegroto" means "all for the patient.""

    http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/about_us/

  13. Re:Clickbait troll much? by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You fuckwit. Stop being so lazy and think for yourself once in your life. Go read this diatribe from the President of "AAPS":
    http://www.aapsonline.org/inde...

  14. John McCain by sycodon · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmmm... sounds Familiar

    Where have I read about this kind of thing before

    In fact, even the big dogs in the press admit they've gone down this road before. Of course, they claim "it's different".

    In the past, the media just went Full Stupid about McCain and his health issues.

    I guess the difference is McCain released all his records and we knew what he faced health-wise. Will Hillary show the same courage?

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  15. Re:Clickbait troll much? by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think there was much concern about Reagan having Alzheimers while he was president, and making decisions as president.

    Also, can anybody look at Hillary Clinton's behavior in the past year and honestly say she doesn't appear unhealthy? I just don't know of any other people in the media spotlight or candidates for office I've seen who go on 2 minute coughing fits multiple times, or who need a stool while they're on stage.

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  16. Re:Clickbait troll much? by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 5, Informative

    A sample from the diatribe:

    "A frontal system with very low pressure blowing in from the Midwest has installed a radical leftist ruling cabal in the White House. This junta is increasingly totalitarian, and has infiltrated all parts of the Executive Branch, including the Department of Justice, the Internal Revenue Service, the Environmental Protection Agency (which was already a hotbed of Marxism), and increasingly, the Judicial Branch. This cabal has intentionally set out to destroy the U.S. Treasury through outrageous deficit spending, massive redistribution of wealth, punitive taxation, unhindered expansion of the regulatory state, nationalization of industries, and finally, the passage of a leviathan entitlement known as “ObamaCare.” The President, acting more like the late Hugo Chavez every day, ignores Congress and the will of the people. He fails to enforce laws he doesn’t like, rewrites laws to suit his political fancy, and creates new laws with executive orders and memoranda."

    Definitely an unbiased source there.

  17. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2, Informative

    >I just don't know of any other people in the media spotlight or candidates for office I've seen who go on 2 minute coughing fits multiple times, or who need a stool while they're on stage.

    It happened to Newt Gingrich while he was criticizing Hillary for coughing. Newt claimed that it was from speaking and travelling so much. Honestly, as much as I disagree with Mr. Gingrich, I believe him. And, guess who else has been travelling a lot and speaking a lot? Hillary.

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