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Samsung to Customers: Stop Using Note 7, Then Wait For Replacements (samsung.com)

Samsung is now telling owners of their Galaxy Note 7 to "power down your device and return to using your previous phone. We will voluntarily replace your Galaxy Note7 device with a new one, beginning on September 19th... We acknowledge the inconvenience this may cause in the market but this is to ensure that Samsung continues to deliver the highest quality products to our customers." The BBC reports: Samsung has urged owners of its Galaxy Note 7 phones to stop using or exchange the devices as they risk exploding. A statement by Samsung, the world's biggest mobile phone maker, said "our customers' safety is an absolute priority..." Earlier on Saturday, aviation authorities in the United Arab Emirates banned use of the devices on the Emirates and Etihad airlines.
Three Australian airlines have already banned use of the phone, and by last week 35 incidents had been reported to Samsung, which believes that the exploding batteries affect 24 phones out of every million (or one phone out of every 41,666).

74 comments

  1. Then again by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Funny

    You aren't supposed to use it - but at least it has a headphone Jack.

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    1. Re:Then again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which will come in super handy after it explodes.

    2. Re:Then again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which will come in super handy after it explodes.

      Maybe they can sell them to the Military as hand grenades?

    3. Re:Then again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lot of good a headphone jack does when the phone explodes.

      Never buy Samsung. Junk.

    4. Re:Then again by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 3, Funny

      And you can still use it to listen to 4'33"

    5. Re:Then again by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 2

      Boy it sure would be nice if the battery were user replaceable, right Samsung?

      They really deserve this fiasco. So does Apple and any other manufacturer that ditched replaceable batteries just to force users to upgrade phones after 2 years.

    6. Re:Then again by Dog-Cow · · Score: 0

      Only idiots such as you would replace a phone after two years solely because the battery needs replacement. Of course, only idiots such as you would buy a phone that required a battery replacement after only two years.

    7. Re:Then again by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

      Of course, only idiots such as you would buy a phone that required a battery replacement after only two years.

      Or two weeks as in this case.

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    8. Re:Then again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't supposed to use it - but at least it has a headphone Jack.

      It's an excruciating choice, really, either lightning or explode.
      Ah, the dark power of Apple nowadays...

    9. Re:Then again by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      who shat in your porridge today? i have a 5 year old galaxy s2 with cyanogenmod and i'm on my 3rd battery. however, I have colleagues and friends and they DO replace phones every time battery starts losing its capacity. simply because it isn't user replaceable, they're not gonna fiddle with screwdrivers to replace it, and the only replacement battery you can buy is a cheap chinese knock-off on ebay. samsung/motorola/etc do NOT sell original batteries for these phones and they don't let you ask the official repair centre to replace it even if you pay them.

    10. Re:Then again by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      It's an excruciating choice, really, either lightning or explode. Ah, the dark power of Apple nowadays...

      Pretty well played sir! Well done.

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    11. Re: Then again by tshawkins · · Score: 1

      You can take your phone into any cellphone servicing center, and they will replace it in under 10 mins, for little more than the cost.

    12. Re:Then again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh atleast they're not telling everyone that its their own fault and the phone only exploded because they were holding it wrong...they're actually owning up to the mistake and trying to rectify it when they could've potentially shifted the blame to faulty 3rd party chargers and gotten away scott free...now compare this to the actions of a certain other company who hates standards and has convinced a segment of the population that a bitten fruit is something cool and you should have a pretty clear idea who the actual douchebags are

  2. "power down" by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    waiting on Volkswagen and Samsung

  3. How will you tell? by labnet · · Score: 2

    How on earth will anyone tell they have a fixed phone? Will it have a big S on it for safe. Or be a different colour? Or will you have to find some tiny serial number and look it up?
    I do feel sorry for Samsung, as you can test hundreds of samples and not see a problem, but when you sell millions it only takes a low failure rate with a big consequence to have major repercussions.

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    1. Re:How will you tell? by netcruiser · · Score: 3, Informative

      You guessed it! It will actually have a big S (for safe) on it, on the sticker on the box. http://www.gsmarena.com/how_to...

    2. Re:How will you tell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guessed it! It will actually have a big S (for safe) on it, on the sticker on the box. http://www.gsmarena.com/how_to...

      I'll bet you a case of beer they still won't let you on board an airliner with a Note 7, sticker or not.

    3. Re:How will you tell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They might run into problems with that.
      Even if the symbols are different it can still be confused with the S mark.

      Products bearing this Mark demonstrate compliance with legal European electrical safety requirements via third-party testing.

      They might have to change it to another identifier in the EU.

    4. Re:How will you tell? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I do feel sorry for Samsung, as you can test hundreds of samples and not see a problem, but when you sell millions it only takes a low failure rate with a big consequence to have major repercussions.

      For a device costing hundreds of dollars, 1 out of 41666 is not a "low failure rate" by any stretch of the imagination. Heck, even for a cheap item a company would get hammered with class action suits for that level of failure - and this was a flagship product!

      They rushed it out, trying to get ahead of the Apple iPhone event... and it drastically backfired.

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    5. Re:How will you tell? by labnet · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but you have no clue.
      These level of failure rates are a nightmare, as they are next to impossible for engineering to detect.
      What do think is a reasonable amount of battery/charger circuit combos to test. 100, 1000, 10000. Even at 10000, it was unlikely to be detected.

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    6. Re:How will you tell? by zrobotics · · Score: 0

      Oh no, he expects every unit to undergo thorough testing. And not any piddly flying probe type crap, oh no, every unit should be stress tested for hours while the senior greybeard stares at it sagely. It does cost several hundred dollars, surely they can work that into their margins. After all, automobiles cost tens of thousands, and there is never a safety defect on a single car that leaves the factory. Hell, manufacturing is easy. Children do it every day in sweatshops all around the third world, and look at the quality wares they produce...

    7. Re:How will you tell? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      I haven't been wasting time on this, since I've not changed my S5 for about 2 years now, and I'm not particularly interested in going to anyone's bleeding edge.

      Are you saying that the problem is actually between S7 phones (and S7-batteries, supplied by Samsung) and SAMSUNG-supplied chargers, or between S7s (etc) and third-party chargers?

      Since the phone is less than 4 years old, then charging is via a micro-USB connector. So if it's charged with a Samsung micro-USB charger, then that's certainly something that Samsung should check. And a few other third-party micro-USB chargers, including ones that go to the limits of the micro-USB specification. And ones that go to the outer limits of the error bars on the micro-USB specification. And then that's it. If you use a non-Samsung micro-USB charger which doesn't conform to the micro-USB specification, then is that Samsung's problem?

      Number of combinations - S7 +Samsung charger ; S7 + 3rd party USB-low charger (or bench power supply set to low side of USB specification, probably safer in the lab) ; S7 + 3rd party USB-mid charger (similar, set to the mid-point of the specification) ; S7 + 3rd party USB-high (you know what I mean). 4 suites of tests. I'd actually test the Samsung charger a bit more - how does it react if plugged into 230, 250, 260 V AC mains, and also for American maybe 100, 110, 120 volts. 45-through 65 Hz at some spacing. But that should be the limit of the testing that you really need.

      If a third-party supplier produces a "micro-USB charger" that puts 4x stepped up mains voltage down the power lines of it's connector, is that really Samsung's fault? By installing a micro-USB socket, are they not doing enough to prevent the reasonable end user from plugging it into dangerous voltages and currents?

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  4. Is it waterproof? by crow · · Score: 1

    Is it at least waterproof?

    After they first denied then ignored the leaky Galaxy S7 Active, I don't have much confidence in Samsung. This time they're afraid of more damage than just the phone, so they have to take it seriously, but with the Active, they just said they would replace them under warranty if they failed (about half would, but who is going to test theirs?). Considering that it's a known defect and they didn't recall them, I hope they get sued for data loss.

  5. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by harperska · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Leave it to the fandroids to find a way to bash Apple even when it's their own devices exploding.

  6. Return to using? by sphealey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Return to using your previous device? Unlike an expired auto insurance card which many people stick in the glovebox, most "previous devices" have been traded in or sold to offset the cost of the new device thus leaving the hapless buyer device-less. Sorry about that.

    sPh

    1. Re:Return to using? by Solandri · · Score: 2

      In that case they're telling people to go to the store where they bought their phone. Most carriers will give them a substitute Samsung phone to use in the interim. Supposedly, Samsung is also providing loaner J-series phones, though I haven't seen details.

      The delay for a replacement is apparently a combination of a shortage of Note 7s using non-Samsung batteries (their battery division is new, and apparently not quite ready for prime time). And time to get FCC approval for a Note 7 with new batteries (probably made by the same Samsung battery division).

    2. Re:Return to using? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      most "previous devices" have been traded in or sold to offset the cost

      [Citation needed]. Anyway there are so many millions of smartphones stuck in people's desk drawers that if you actually needed an interim phone I'm sure you could easily get one for free.

  7. Not to worry, Samsung by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm already waiting on the superior "7" release: the iPhone 7.

    1. Re:Not to worry, Samsung by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL LMAO...wait, that was a joke, right?

  8. Patronizing attitudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...We acknowledge the inconvenience this may cause in the market but this is to ensure that Samsung continues to deliver the highest quality products to our customers."

    I really hate that patronizing attitude. And highest quality by whose standards?

    Well Samsung, I'm sorry for the inconvenience of the class action lawsuit I'm joining. And I'm sorry for the inconvenience of the millions of dollars in legal fees it's going to cost you.

    1. Re:Patronizing attitudes by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, whoever decided to stick the term "continues to" in that statement is an ass. They would've come off much better if they'd said " ... to ensure that Samsung delivers the highest quality ..."

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  9. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by fustakrakich · · Score: 0
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  10. You can't tell me... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    ...what to do! I'll stop using it as soon as you pry it out of my cold dead ha

    1. Re:You can't tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha good one! Now let me just grab my Note7 and make a ca

    2. Re:You can't tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just in: Note 7 catches fire AND explodes

      and sank into the swamp.

    3. Re:You can't tell me... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      ...what to do! I'll stop using it as soon as you pry it out of my cold dead ha

      You mean "smoldering, missing"?

  11. Continues to deliver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... We acknowledge the inconvenience this may cause in the market but this is to ensure that Samsung continues to deliver the highest quality products to our customers. ..."

    Isn't this saying the Note 7 batteries were the highest quality, as Note 7 device replacement is a continuation of delivery of said highest-quality products? *confused*

  12. well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    those odds aren't all that bad

  13. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by gtall · · Score: 1

    I don't think there are "fandroids" in the sense of the droids arguing that android is a wonderful OS. It seems they mostly define their use of it in opposition to its competitors.

    Samsung does make their own OS, Tizen.I never used it but it doesn't appear to be taking the world by storm. My guess is they produce droid phone because there's more or less nothing else they can use and still get people to use it.

  14. 1/40k devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But they are recalling 100% of the devices. Its going to hurt, but kudos for doing the right thing. Do you think apple would do this? Hell no.

    1. Re:1/40k devices by DaphneDiane · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apple did something similar with the iPhone chargers which is why all the new ones had the green dot ( I believe it was 3G charger, which the plugs could end up detached from the charger ). They also did a recall of knock off third party chargers and replaced them with genuine ones after a bunch of issues with including a KIRF charger killing someone.

    2. Re:1/40k devices by hey! · · Score: 1

      I don't think they're doing this out of the goodness of their heart. Samsung had sold about 26 million of the things as of a month ago, which mean that (if their estimates are correct and truthful) there are 650 devices in the wild that have this problem.

      This could, very possibly, lead to hundreds of fires and who knows how many actual explosions -- and Samsung would be responsible for ALL the consequences, direct and indirect, of those events. If Samsung knew and failed to take action, then they'd be open to extra punitive damages too.

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    3. Re:1/40k devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "our customers' safety is an absolute priority" really means "our legal department suggests that this will minimize our liability".

  15. Sell it on eBay for $5,000 by swd99999999 · · Score: 1

    Sell it on eBay for $5,000

  16. A fanatic is... by mccalli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Churchill's quote: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

    This situation and post has literally nothing to do with Apple, yet at the time of writing there's around a third of the threads talking about Apple and some fantasy reaction they may or may not have had if faced with this circumstance. People - for gawd's sake give it a rest.

    1. Re:A fanatic is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple.

    2. Re:A fanatic is... by macs4all · · Score: 2

      People - for gawd's sake give it a rest.

      Apple deserves every amount of shit heaped on it at every opportunity possible. They should be mocked at every opportunity whether or not related to the topic at hand. This is protest by media attention for their anti-consumer we'll force them to buy our shitty Beats by preventing them from easily using an alternative bullshit.

      Much like the "beta sucks" campaign which had a great result in the end there's a subtle hope if the cries are loud and continuous enough that they may see the error in their ways.

      Get help.

    3. Re:A fanatic is... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Get help.

      ...said the pot to the kettle.

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    4. Re: A fanatic is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      let me gess, ur a nigger as only sum dumass nigger wuld post sumthin as dum as u jus did

  17. Yes by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Is it at least waterproof?

    The flames it emits are hot enough to turn any nearby water into a kind of gaseous shield.

    If you direct the output of the flames you can also use the phone as a means of propulsion, look for the Note7 Nozzle Xtreme cases to hit the market soon.

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  18. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung doesn't use Tizen for the same reason Apple doesn't use it's own chips in MacBooks. There is a certain level of compatibility that is expected, and if you abruptly change it, you effectively start over from zero.

    In the case of Samsung, they are stuck, because even if they just abruptly decided to drop Android, that would just push those who want to stay in the Android ecosystem to install CyanogenMod or whatever unofficial Android OS, and those who step up to use Tizen will find that none of their software library works.

    The same with LG. LG bought WebOS, but doesn't use it.

    If we were all still using dumbphones, the OS wouldn't matter because nobody uses their dumbphones for anything but voicemail. The point of the Blackberry was to use data (used to have it's own proprietary network) to send secure messages, voice calls was really of a second feature. Blackberry has QNX.

    Everywhere you look the only one committed to Android is Google itself. Google, despite buying Motorola, Google sold it to Lenovo. So Lenovo could switch it to whatever OS they want and then Google has NO Android vendors but some low-end chinese devices that nobody wants.

  19. No Compelling Cellphone Upgrade by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    I want Galaxy Note 3 for a bigger phone with a small thumb keyboard on it.

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  20. Much schadenfreude by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    I despise Samsung - not as much as I despise Microsoft, but plenty. I am therefore pretty happy that this is happening to them.

    1. Re:Much schadenfreude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok i'll bite, why? why do you hate samsung?

  21. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Moderators, really, don't think it can't happen

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  22. Well easier said then done for some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many trade their old phones in when they get a new one? I myself learned the hard way that trading in too soon after buying a new phone not such a good ideal. I think this move if certainly warranted given the severity of what has occurred. But I wonder if this is being handled through carriers or Samsung directly?
    I think for myself if I had one that was affected I would seriously have to reconsider some other model instead.

  23. Inconvenient, but... by wantobe · · Score: 3

    The wife and I had continued using my Note7 up until yesterday, because I figured 1) the chances were pretty small(ish) that our phones were affected and 2) we hadn't yet had an official response from what Verizon was going to do. When I got the Samsung email yesterday, I decided that we should at least go to the local corporate Verizon store and see what they said. An hour later, we walked out with "loaner" phones (I got the s7, the wife got the s7 edge) and the promise that we would receive notification (text or email) when the fixed Note7s were going to be available. It wasn't too much hassle; they simply treated it as an exchange (they put the difference in taxes paid for the Note7 verses for the S7s on a gift card, which we'll use to pay that difference again when we get the Note7s) and I can't really see how they could have done much different. We're keeping all the accessories for the Note7, so we don't have to worry about any returns, and the rep we spoke to said the Zagg screen/back covers we bought would be replaced under the lifetime warranty Zagg offers. It's not a great situation, but I'm happy with the Samsung and Verizon responses.

  24. Re: Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones ne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LG sells tons of devices that run WebOS. Most of them have at least a 37" display.

  25. Maintainability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One must wonder how great management feels about the decision to glue the battery in... that 'feature' certainly made me change my mind about even getting the device. Meanwhile my trusty S3 is munching its way through battery #3.

    And I do wonder, with the number of slightly different designs out there at what point someone will discover standardization and architect the phone around it? But then, I guess, the value of interchangeable parts was always overblown...

  26. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    apple had exploding phones just they made users sign a NDA to get a new phone .

  27. Re:Exploding apple Iphone 7 wireless earphones nex by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Well im a little disappointed kinda, it was meant to be a funny post but im guessing i made a few apple fanboys mad. oh and i dont own a smartphone. i use an LG306G lol

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