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Facebook Is Collaborating With The Israeli Government To Determine What Should Be Censored (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: The Israeli government and Facebook agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network, a senior Israeli Cabinet minister said Monday. The announcement came after two government ministers met top Facebook officials to discuss the matter. The Facebook delegation is in Israel as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence. Israel has argued that a wave of violence with the Palestinians over the past year has been fueled by incitement, much of it spread on social media sites. It has repeatedly said that Facebook should do more to monitor and control the content, raising a host of legal and ethical issues over whether the company is responsible for material posted by its users. Both Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan and Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked, two key figures in Israel's battle against the alleged online provocations, participated in Monday's meeting. Erdan's office said they agreed with Facebook representatives to create teams that would figure out how best to monitor and remove inflammatory content, but did not elaborate further. Erdan and Shaked have proposed legislation that seeks to force social networks to remove content that Israel considers to be incitement. An opposition lawmaker has also proposed a bill seeking to force social networks to self-monitor or face a fine. Facebook said in a statement "online extremism can only be tackled with a strong partnership between policymakers, civil society, academia and companies, and this is true in Israel and around the world." The company did also say that its community standards "make it clear there is non place for terrorists or content that promotes terrorism on Facebook." ABC News reports that "over the past four months Israel submitted 158 requests to Facebook to remove inciting content and another 13 requests to YouTube," according to Shaked. "She said Facebook granted some 95 percent of the requests and YouTube granted 80 percent." All of this adds to the censorship controversy that is currently surrounding Facebook. Last week, Norway's largest newspaper accused Mark Zuckerberg of abusing power after his company decided to censor a historic photograph of the Vietnamese "Napalm Girl," claiming it violated the company's ban on "child nudity."
genocide. Yeah, let's censor genocide.
The company did also say that its community standards "make it clear there is non place for terrorists or content that promotes terrorism on Facebook."
Even when the terror is being incited by a major state like the US or China? Or Israel? Somehow I doubt they're going to stick by this.
And there it is boys and girls, the sanitation of unapproved thoughts. Brought to you by Facebook.
So pointless. Censorship so seldom works, all it does is make you lose credibility.
If the brainwashing were complete and foolproof none of the sheeple would think or say anything that required censoring. The spirit of free thought is not quite dead yet.
Does anyone remembers that facebook got sued not long ago for collaborating with terrorism? It seems that it worked, they got scared.
I hate replying to an AC, but can you show me some Jewish incitement?
The Palestinians actually had a hate-based children's show called Tomorrow's Pioneers. Yes, this was a show aimed at small children, and tried to teach them that killing Jews is a good thing. Show me ANYTHING comparable that the Jews have done.
There is also a "holiday" called Quds day this is sort of a Muslim "we hate the Jews" celebration. Once again, show me an Israeli holiday focused on killing Muslims.
"-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
I block the recruitment by mass murdering jihadi
You stop incitement to violence against civilians
He censors free speech
Given the flow of low level attacks against civilian targets in Israel over the years, the idea of allowing Facebook to leave proponents of such attacks unchallenged is unreasonable. It's a matter of degree, but let's not pretend there aren't some out there who should be censored - or doesn't commending 9/11 with a call to complete it by hitting the White House and Capitol Hill strike you as unacceptable?
In this context, I find its historical connotations spot on.
Facebook, like ISPs, is someday going to have to choose between being a common carrier or a creator/purveyor of content. I'm sure they want to have their cake and eat it too, of course. They dont' want to be perceived as a media giant, yet they "curate" "trending topics". While also wanting to be the ISP for the third world (controlling content to Facebook-owned sites at that). What a greedy two-faced corporate monster.
And in a competitive marketplace, failure to provide a desired service doesn't permanently suppress the service. Instead it provides a market opportunity for competition.
So Facebook and YouTube start censoring certain viewpoints? Suddenly there's a customer base for their (current or potential) competition: people with those viewpoints, people who want to see those viewpoints, and people who want to be able to post or view without censorship and/or distortion from its built-in biases.
Institutional and/or governmental suppression just creates a "forbidden fruit" attraction - especially for adolescents in the "Young Warrior" age group, THE primary target for anti-establishment military recruitment.
Alcohol prohibition created a generation of drunks and organized crime to supply them, drug prohibition (and the "drug war") has done the same for at least THREE generations of drug users, McCarthyist anti-Communism created a backlash that has become institutionalized. I could go on - at least as far back as Rome and the Christians.
These all show that attempts to directly suppress ideas and social movements tend to be counter-productive. Why should a Facebook / Israel government attempt to suppress Palestinians, ISIS, or other groups they dislike be any more effective?
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Yup. Nothing like letting a group of people who claim that God has a deal with them that he will always side with them over others decide what is and isn't acceptable for others to say.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
No more bacon memes on my wall :(
Facebook Is Collaborating With The Israeli Government To Determine What It Might Need to Censor in Order to Keep Operating in Israel
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
You jews don't "incite" at all, you just kill 1600 Palestinian civilians in a couple of months after some rusty, malfunctioning rockets hit the desert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Luckily I don't live anywhere close to either muslims or jews, I would feel much safer among Mexican drug cartels' members, far more civilized people.
Then sell the platform to the world with freedom of speech, freedom of the press as been very easy to redefine globally.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Any reference to Ghandi is going to be censored on Israeli Facebook?
http://www.history.com/this-da...
This is not a signature.
How about demolishing the houses of the families of Palestinians accused of attacking Israelis? Or continuously building heavily fortified settlements in Palestinian territory against international law? Do either of those things count as incitement? I swear, sometimes Israel is like a little kid that keeps poking a beehive with a stick then comes crying when they get stung.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
You mean the people that were born in, and have been locked up in, the worlds largest open air prison for their entire lives, are teaching their children that the people that have done this to them, and continue to do this to them, might deserve to die?
Say it aint so.
"His name was James Damore."
> the worlds largest open air prison for their entire lives
That's only a problem if you're trapped with criminals. Sure, if you're trapped inside with your average prison population then that's bound to suck. If you've got civilized people, then it would just be New Jersey.
That's the problem with you cute little metaphor. It's not the confinement, it's WHO you're confined with.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
You mean like Germans censoring Nazis?
Jew lawyers in the ACLU defend the liberties of Nazis.
Although what Israel is asking seems to be no different then what any other state does these days. Facebook also seems to comply.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
That's only a problem if you're trapped with criminals.
Thats exactly what the people doing it would say.
"His name was James Damore."
Jews, the eternal victims in their own eyes, joining together to victimize others, and censor any reports of that. More they use their much propagated 'victim' status to morally blackmail and cover-up their own well substantiated crimes (genocide, ethnic cleansing, land grabs, apartheid laws, rape, torture, deliberate child killings on a mass scale, spying, corruption and influence pending of western governments, etc., etc..) less credibility and sympathy there will be for their true past sufferings.
Except that the vast majority of Jews are Leftist and opposed to Jewish heritage, except vis a vis pols who base their positions on Christianity. Most of them are aggressively opposed to Israel's existence, to the point of being pro-Hamas. They have opposed things like GITMO, support claims of 'Islamophobia' across the board, and do a whole lot of things that would make it seem like Islam has nothing against Jews. Except that it does, particularly in the Sunnah.
Like Debbie Schlussel said, a large majority of Jews are JINOs (Jews in name only), and she calls the female ones 'VaJINOs'
You have some "much needed" money in your wallet, please hand it over immediately.
FTA: Israel has argued that a wave of violence with the Palestinians over the past year has been fueled by incitement, much of it spread on social media sites.
Yeah, those 40-foot-high walls that Israel is plopping down through the middle of Palestinian cities has absolutely nothing to do with the anger of Palestinians at Israel's illegal seizure of their land, or the destruction of the (200+ yr-old) olive orchards at-will. Or further their making even a modicum of a 'normal life' impossible for the refugees of former Palestinian territory – stolen by expansionist Israeli governing parties from Palestinians.
Any and all "agreed-upon" borders have been violated by Israel. Palestinian children throw stones to voice their anger – and Israeli helicopter gunships fire missiles into Palestinian homeland territories.
This "story" of placing blame for censorship on private companies like FaceBook is a complete diversion from the actual reality of what is going on in that territory.
Well Zuckerberg is Jewish so no surprises that he's going to push the Israeli agenda.
So I guess Facebook will now censor anything that makes Palestinians look human or like victims, and anything that dares to question what the Israeli government is doing.
Man, as I read the posts here on /., I am shocked at what people have to say. This is nothing less than a hate forum. I think /. should team up with Facebook's efforts in censoring this kind of nonesense. Free speech comes with responsibility, and haters love nothing more than to pervert their 'freedoms of speech' to spread thier lies and hateful messages, and there are just so many of them here. Just sad.
Yes, this is no different than 1938. Well all you anti-Semites out there, FUCK YOU! The Jews have been through this before, and they will persevere. At the end, your just a bunch of fucking useless idiots that will eventually fade away from our evolutional tree. Pardon my French, but fuck you again.
What do you mean prison? They're free to leave and settle in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Turkey any time they want.
Tell me again, what is keeping them where they are?
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Yes, just remove the discussion from the public eyes, and i'm pretty sure it will go all fine! instead of creating some sort of very dangerous hidden "safe space" where ideas brew without any limit of reasonable people to stop it.
I hate replying to an AC, but can you show me some Jewish incitement?
http://www.alternet.org/story/...
As soon as it was published late last year,Torat Ha'Melech sparked a national uproar. The controversy began when an Israeli tabloid panned the book's contents as "230 pages on the laws concerning the killing of non-Jews, a kind of guidebook for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew." According to the book's author, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, "Non-Jews are "uncompassionate by nature" and should be killed in order to "curb their evil inclinations." "If we kill a gentile who has has violated one of the seven commandments⦠there is nothing wrong with the murder," Shapira insisted. Citing Jewish law as his source (or at least a very selective interpretation of it) he declared: "There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults."
One of Shapira's followers, an American immigrant named Jack Teitel, has confessed to murdering two innocent Palestinians and attempting to the kill the liberal Israeli historian Ze'ev Sternhell with a mail bomb. Teitel is suspected of many more murders, including an attack on a Tel Aviv gay community center.
Despite its apparent role as a terror training institute, Od Yosef Chai has raked in nearly fifty thousand dollars from the Israeli Ministry of Social Affairs since 2007, while the Ministry of Education has pumped over 250 thousand dollars into the yeshiva's coffers between 2006 and 2007.
Though he does not name "the enemy" in the pages of his book, Shapira's longstanding connection to terrorist attacks against Palestinian civilians exposes the true identity of his targets. In 2006, Shapira was briefly held by Israeli police for urging his supporters to murder all Palestinians over the age of 13. Two years later, according to the Israeli daily Haaretz, he signed a rabbinical letter in support of Israeli Jews who had brutally assaulted two Arab youths on the country's Holocaust Remembrance Day. That same year, Shapira was arrested under suspicion that he helped orchestrate a rocket attack against a Palestinian village near Nablus. Though he was released, Shapira's name arose in connection with another act of terror, when in January, the Israeli police raided his settlement seeking the vandals who set fire to a nearby mosque. After arresting ten settlers, the Shabak held five of Shapira's confederates under suspicion of arson.
while Lior served as the IDF's top rabbi, he instructed soldiers: "There is no such thing as civilians in wartime⦠A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail!" Indeed, there are only a few non-Jews whose lives Lior would demand to be spared. They are captured Palestinian militants who, as he once suggested, could be used as subjects for live human medical experiments.
Otherwise, Lior appears content to watch Palestinians perish as they did at the muzzle of Dr. Baruch Goldstein's machine gun in 1994. Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinians and wounded 150 in a shooting spree while they prayed in Hebron's Cave of the Patriarchs mosque, was a compatriot and neighbor of Lior in the settlement of Kiryat Arba. At Goldstein's funeral, Lior celebrated the massacre as an act carried out "to sanctify the holy name of God." He then extolled Goldstein as "a righteous man." Thanks to Lior's efforts, a shrine to Goldstein was constructed in center of Kiryat Arba so that locals could celebrate the killer's deeds and pass his legacy down to future generations.
Horrible it is, but it is a book and not Facebook or other social media. As such it's distribution is going to be quite limited and generally outside the scope of the measures under discussion.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
You probably know, but just don't care, that the blockade began after an organization which was created with the sole aim of destroying Israel was elected to power. Denying your wannabe killer a weapon is common sense when applied to any situation other than Israel.
That level of hypocrisy rises to the level of anti-semitism.
Anyone who is anti-YOU is doing the world a favor. You are obviously suffering from some psychological condition. Did that start before or during your tour of duty?
You probably know, but just don't care, that that organisation did not exactly become popular for no good reason. There is no innocent party here. People have stooped to simply barbaric behaviour on both sides. Israel is acting in blatant violation of international law. Are the United Nations anti-semitic for passing those resolutions?
Rudolf Hess edited Mein Kampf. He was the very first grammar nazi.
The problem is that endorsing violence undermines the whole basis of a democratic state. If I am allowed to call for armed resistance to the government every time I am upset about what they are proposing, you are providing a recipe for civil war tomorrow. There must be a general commitment to accepting the right of the government to make unpopular decisions, or your state WILL crumble.
It's also important to note that threats of violence in themselves limit freedom of speech. This is most obviously demonstrated in the Islamic world, where women campaigning for equal treatment often do not get treated politely.
http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
And SHUT UP about Jewish treatment of Arabs until you've cleaned up your own abattoir.
Note the response: 'I'm sure there's more to this story...' will not be consistent with your critiques of Israel.
The answer to the question is "No". The professed aims of Hamas are irrelevant in the face of the power disparity. Israel is like a trained martial artist vs a kid yelling "I'm going to kick your ass!". The proper response to that is to ignore it, because it is not a viable threat, not to brutalise the kid into the hospital.
And the second point: maybe everyone makes mistakes, but the disproportional use of force by the IDF is not a mistake, it's policy.
And finally, when the current Likud government is still sponsoring the illegal settlements and using resistance against them as a casus belli, it is not Israel that is the victim here.
"I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
You probably know, but just don't care, that the blockade began after an organization which was created with the sole aim of destroying Israel was elected to power.
You mean in 1948 when this happened?
Or do you mean the more general 1948 exodus and expulsions that created the first Palestinian refugees?
Israel began capturing and resettling, or killing, Palestinians literally the day England handed the country over.
2016 - 1948 = 68 years.
Every Palestinian that is 68 years old or younger has only lived in a world where Israel has been fucking them. Not a single second of their lives has been without this fucking.
If you are a 20 year old Palestinian, not only were you born into the fucking, but your parents were too, and maybe even your grandparents.
Big surprise that eventually they choose leaders that no longer consider a peaceful solution as workable, right? Completely unpredictable outcome. The Palestinians are clearly "radical."
"His name was James Damore."
"Israel is like a trained martial artist vs a kid yelling "I'm going to kick your ass!". The proper response to that is to ignore it, because it is not a viable threat, not to brutalise the kid into the hospital."
Given the existence of riots where large rocks are being thrown at Israeli soldiers, what are they supposed to do? Ignore it? To return to your parallel, if the kid is about to do serious damage to trained martial artist's knee, he's got to respond.
Somewhere deep in your personal creed are the beliefs:
1) There must be a solution to all problems
2) People of other cultures are ultimately reasonable and will 'play nicely' if only given the chance.
In practice the Middle East demonstrates these are fantasies; the failure of the Arabs to be willing to engage in peace negotiations before 1967 and their continuing use of the refugees as a weapon against Israel reflect a pathological ideology - probably from Islam - that allows no compromise. By contrast Israel has not gone on and on about those whom it accepted as refugees from the ethnic cleansing of Arab countries after their defeat in 1948, a number remarkably similar to the number of those Arabs who were, for whatever reason, no longer resident within the ceasefire lines of 1948.
What do you mean prison? They're free to leave and settle in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Turkey any time they want.
Lebanon sticks them in camps and wont give them citizenship (for 68 years now.)
Egypt? The home of the Arab League, whose member States are barred from granting citizenship to Palestinians.
Saudi Arabia? Member of the Arab League, whose member States are barred from granting citizenship to Palestinians.
Turkey? Until 2 years ago they didnt even allow Palestinians to work or go to school is the country, and since then they still arent allowed to even apply for citizenship.
Syria? Fucking lol you fucking ignorant fuck.
Let me translate what you just fucking said: The Palestinians are free to go somewhere else where they wont be a citizen either.
STFU you fucking racist.
"His name was James Damore."
But Israel is somehow to blame. Not Lebanon that holds the Palestinians rightless, not Jordan that even in majority palestinian cities discriminates against them. Not the palestinian authority that instead of building a country is keeping them in "refugee camps". But Israel, where every Palestinian who remained in 1948 is a citizen with full rights.
You want to dig out everything that happened 70 years ago? You seriously want to go there and blame Jews? Or you want to keep digging. May be 1929? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Or may be you want to know what happened to the Jews of Gaza in 1929? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... That same Gaza that is now 100% Jew free? By your logic, there is no big surprise those Jews evacuated from Gaza to Tel Aviv in 1929 have an issue with Palestinians in Gaza. Right? Cause that logic applies both ways. Except we moved on, and hopefully, one day, after they tire of hatred, so would they.
So their own countries won't take them back. Again, how is that Israel's fault?
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
You want to dig out everything that happened 70 years ago?
Since this fucking spans multiple generations... since the Palestinians were born into it ... yes, I do... why wouldn't you?
I guess in your world only the last 1 second matters, right?
You seriously want to go there and blame Jews?
I never said anything about the Jews. In fact, in all my posts so far here on this story, the first time I am using any form of the word "Jew" is right here, right now, because I am quoting you, where you brought up the Jews.
I say Israel and Israeli's.and you only hear "Jews."
Religion doesnt give Israel an excuse for what they have been doing to the Palestinians since day 1, and the fact of the matter is when this all began the prominent rabbis of the time condemned the State of Israel for what they started, what they did. Its in the links I gave. Maybe you should have read them.
Now read your own 1929 link, where it clearly states that Many of the 435 Jews who survived were hidden by local Arab families.
Lets continue reading your link which you clearly didnt read: The massacre formed part of the 1929 Palestine riots, in which a total of 133 Jews and 110 Arabs were killed, and brought the centuries-old Jewish presence in Hebron to an end.
So here we are comparing apples and oranges, or rather religion and ethnicity, because such distinctions (as you have already proven) are lost on you.
I wonder how many of those Arabs killed during the Palestine Riots were Christians, Atheists, and Pagans.
If I am picking up what you are putting down, you are saying its OK for the Jews to fuck with Arabs and therefore its OK for the country of Israel to fuck with Arabs.
"His name was James Damore."
So their own countries won't take them back.
There own country is Palestine, which is just as legitimate a country as Israel since it was the very same U.N, decision that formed both countries.
As far as "take them back" -- if they are to go back to the land from whence they came, that would be what we now call Israel. The Israeli's kicked them off their land using the equipment the British gave them, the equipment that won WWII. The Israeli's stole their homes and forced them into the largest open air prisons in the world.
You are claiming that its some others countries responsibility? Turkey? Syria? Egypt? Its their responsibility to take in the people that the State of Israel have kicked off their lands?
Maybe you arent American and dont understand why your bullshit is so obviously bullshit to us Americans. See, once upon a time we resettled some people too. Took their land, killed a bunch of them, forced them onto the shittiest parcels of land available. We didnt give them citizenship. We were in the wrong. Israel is in the wrong too.
"His name was James Damore."
But Israel is somehow to blame.
The State that stole their land... is definitely "somehow" to blame.
Not Lebanon that holds the Palestinians rightless, not Jordan
The countries that took in refugees, are to blame for there being refugees? eh? Do you even listen to yourself?
But Israel, where every Palestinian who remained in 1948 is a citizen with full rights.
Notice how you continue to call them Palestinians where if they were Israeli citizens with full rights they would be Israeli since those under 68 years of age would be Israeli born. They would be Israeli, yet they arent, are they? Two sets of laws. One for the Jews, the other for everyone else.
"His name was James Damore."
The problem is that the "state that stole their land" is actually a state. All Muslims around Israel only want peace -- by killing every Jew...
Let me list some surrounding Muslim countries:
* Lebanon
* Jordan
* Syria
* Iraq
* Egypt
* Lybia
* Kuwait
* Turkey
* Iran
Next, let me list every single Jewish country in the world:
* Israel
Yeah, a very short list.
Do you even know HOW Israel came into possession of the "occupied territories?" Israel was surrounded by armies on all sides ready to invade, and got their butts kicked.
Let me put it this way. If Canada and Mexico tried to invade the USA, could you blame us if we took part of both as a "buffer zone?" Also, if people in those areas were routinely launching unguided rockets at us, and having their citizens routinely commit mass murder against our citizens, don't you think that trying to stop the attacks would be a priority?
"-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
So it's ok to try to kill someone if you miss?
The Israeli excuse when they kill innocent children is that they did it "accidentally."
They say, that's the difference between the Palestinians and us. They kill children deliberately, and they feel good about it afterwards. We kill children accidentally, and we feel bad about it afterwards.
But I've never heard an Israeli government spokesman apologize for killing innocent Palestinian children. For example, Izzeldin Abuelaish's daughters https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
You are using the logic of a criminal lawyer who defends clients who are guilty, and uses every argument, no matter how dubious or irrelevant, to try to get a murderer off.
The parent asked, "can you show me some Jewish incitement?"
I showed him.
That's the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned.
Afterward, listen.
So you can bet that on-the-ground footage showing excessive force by IDF and the like can be deemed "inflammatory". Israel's PR cleaners are panicking that the state doesn't have the control over western media that it once did, thanks to the advent of social media.
Everyone knows there's no money to warrant shilling for Palestinians. Israeli government-sponsored shilling, on the other hand, is a proven fact. Israel was adept enough to hire trolls back in the 2000s, before even the US government got around to it.
So no need for the "both sides" false equivocation. There's only one side, much like everything else between Israel and Palestine, when it comes to money.
If Islam is against the Jewish people, why did Muslims protect them when Christians were trying to wipe them out in Europe?
Short answer - the Muslims needed Dhimmis to be their servants and do their menial jobs. And to pay the Jiziya. Living like leeches off non-Muslims was always a stable of Shariah practice.
About what Islam is, nowhere is it more obvious than in the Quran and Hadith: just 2 examples below, but there's plenty more where that came from
2:65-66. And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
http://visualizingpalestine.or... The Israeli state was created on top of Palestine.
Uh, in the early 20th century, after the Brits & French carved up the entire region b/w themselves and reduced Turkey to Anatolia and East Thrace, the term 'Palesinian' was used, but it was used to describe Jews, not Arabs. In fact, until 1967, the reason world opinion was usually behind Israel was that the rivary was perceived as one b/w the tiny state of Israel, vs 22 countries from Morocco to Iraq and Oman to Syria that comprised the Arab League. Once Yasser Arafat rebranded the Arabs in Judea and Samaria as 'Palestinians', making them look like the victims, he scored a major PR coup
Otherwise, ethnically, there are no differences b/w Arabs in Israel/Judea/Samaria/Gaza vs those in Jordan, Sinai and Syria. In fact, Palestine was never an independent entity when it was under Muslim rule - be it the Mamluqs, Ayubids or Ottomans. It was always a part of sultanates or provinces of Egypt and/or Syria, and governed from Cairo or Dimashq, never from Jerusalem or Jaffa
What loser! You obviously are too busy in your mommies basement waiting for her to bring you a pop tart.
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Jews, the eternal victims in their own eyes, joining together to victimize others, and censor any reports of that. More they use their much propagated 'victim' status to morally blackmail and cover-up their own well substantiated crimes (genocide, ethnic cleansing, land grabs, apartheid laws, rape, torture, deliberate child killings on a mass scale, spying, corruption and influence pending of western governments, etc., etc..) less credibility and sympathy there will be for their true past sufferings.
The above hyperbolic rant is a perfect illustration of hate speech that is designed to incite and sow bigotry. Each of the statements made are provably false, yet "Coward" cannot be sued or held responsible for slander because the target isn't a person it is a community. In terms of unfettered freedom to spread hate America is an outlier and not the norm, so it is both chauvinistic and imperialistic to impose American values on the rest of the planet as a form of global law. I'll leave it to others for now to refute the claim, what is more important are the meta-issues. Free speech as a principle come what may is one school of ethical thought. Consequentialism is a contrasting approach - one considers the outcomes. Inciting Arabs to slit the throats of any Israeli that they meet was recently publicly advocated by PLO advisor Sultan abu Ein Ein on his Facebook page. 3 days later a 17 year old Palestinian youth broke into a home in the community of Kiryat Arba and slit the throat of 13 year old Hallel Yaffa Ariel. Other examples include inciting Palestinians to ram their cars into pedestrians and to poison the food of patrons in restaurants where they work. Then there's conspiracy theories such as claims that Israel is digging under Al Aqsa to undermine the foundations and cause it to collapse. Threats to al Aqsa are a staple of Palestinian Arab conspiracy theories and have a long history of incitement going back to the 1929 Hebron massacre and the start of the 2nd Intifadeh based on rumours surrounding Sharon's visit to the the Temple Mount - which had been previously cleared by the Palestinian Authority, which then encouraged the rumors. The problem is that Facebook is not a free press, it is a walled garden. People like "Coward" can publish what they like and there is no freedom to reply, as there is here. "Coward" can and do filter, censor and block what he doesn't approve of on his Facebook page. As supreme court justice Brandeis observed, when it comes to public lies and hate speech, "sunlight is the best disinfectant". The downside of Facebook's walled garden is that it provides places where the sun don't shine, and in certain cases there needs to be a remedy to that. What defines these cases does need to be discussed. Advocating Itbach al Yahud (slaughter the Jews), or any other group should never be acceptable.
You'd be surprised how much is protected by the First Amendment.
You'd be surprised if not astonished that most of the planet isn't American and is not subject to American principles of law. But it is. Not only is Israel not America, neither is France, Spain, Indonesia, the Philippines, India, Russia or Venezuela. Outside the borders of the US you're just another bunch of foreigners, sometimes behaving yourself and at other times acting like dicks. One might wish to cite the Universal Declaration of Human Rights on free speech, but it's not that clear what it includes and doesn't include. One might also look at the Organization of Islamic Cooperation which in it's version of human rights states that free speech is OK, as long as it doesn't conflict with Sharia. "Palestine" is a signatory.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I'm disappointed to see you retreating so inelegantly. It is a fact of history that the elite's view, defended by unjustified certainty, proves to be wrong when the elite doesn't ensure it's listening. To describe a view as racist - and on the whole I'm probably only being anti-Muslim, not anti-Arab - and therefore untrue, which is all the logic you offer, is foolish. It shows an unwillingness to THINK, the disease of our hedonist degenerate culture. But having fun is our society's highest value these days; on the whole we're not prepared to make the effort to think. May you enjoy your float down stream; of course that's not the sound of the Niagara Falls you're hearing.