Slashdot Mirror


Samsung To Push Software Upgrade Which Will Cap Galaxy Note 7 Battery Charging at 60 Percent (zdnet.com)

As Samsung figures out how to tackle the big Note7 fiasco, it has found a temporary solution for existing users of the phone. It plans to roll out an over-the-air (OTA) update on September 20 which would limit the battery charging cap for the Note7 to 60 percent. ZDNET reports: The Over-the-Air (OTA) software upgrade will commence on September 20, 10 am in South Korea. Samsung is in talks with telcos from nine other countries where the phablet is available to deploy a similar software upgrade. Galaxy Note 7 has a battery capacity of 3,500 mAh, but the forced upgrade will enforce it to 2,100 mAh. The measure is meant to protect consumers who are still using the Note7 despite a recommendation to halt use. When the exchange starts on September 19 in South Korea, the tech giant will also offer to pay parts of the data fee.

18 of 120 comments (clear)

  1. Overblown by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This whole exploding Note 7 issue is waaaay overblown. I am using mine right now and have had ZERO pro

  2. Nice, can you do it for your other phones too? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd love the option to set my various devices' charge/discharge limits to 90% / 10% or 80% / 20%.

    Yes, Li-Ion chemistry has improved a lot in the past decade but batteries still degrade faster at 100%.

    --
    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    1. Re:Nice, can you do it for your other phones too? by guruevi · · Score: 2

      I thought most modern devices have moved beyond LiIon to LiPo and all Li devices should maintain their charge due to memory effects, even in modern batteries.

      --
      Custom electronics and digital signage for your business: www.evcircuits.com
    2. Re:Nice, can you do it for your other phones too? by macs4all · · Score: 2

      LiPo didn't solve the LiIon degradation issues. The issues have nothing to do with memory effect.

      Not when you have OEMs that could care less about your long term battery life, and sacrifice everything for fast charging times.

  3. At least by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Your 60 percent of a phone has a headphone jack.

    --
    The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    1. Re:At least by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's more convenient to carry around an adaptor than a fire extinguisher...

      --
      Blank until /. makes another boneheaded UI decision.
  4. Samsung Representatives by nwaack · · Score: 5, Funny

    When asked why Samsung decided to embed the battery into the new phone so that the user couldn't simply change it themselves, a Samsung representative responded, "Courage."

  5. Re:Shouldn't customers get 40% of their money back by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're offering customers 100% of their money back, the trouble is getting people to actually return the recalled phones.

    --
    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
  6. Total Recall: The Perfect nightmare by npslider · · Score: 2

    All we need to do is load up a bunch of these phones into a fleet of un-recalled Toyota's... we will have out of control racing fire bombs!

  7. 40% less BANG for your buck! by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Samsung steals 40% of customers' battery life

    TFTFY

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  8. Re:Shouldn't customers get 40% of their money back by cjjjer · · Score: 4, Informative

    They actually have a site that where you can start the exchange process if you want a new phone. Also Samsung has said that in certain EU countries they will be deactivating (bricking) the phones that have not been exchanged by the end of Sept.

  9. This just shows how broken Telecoms really are. by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a cellular carrier problem, not an Android problem. They insist on having control over things they shouldn't be in control of. Apple had enough clout to tell them to f- off. Other phone manufacturers did not. Google had almost enough clout to keep their paws off the Nexus phones (though until the Nexus 6, Verizon refused to allow Nexus phones on their network for this reason).

    IMHO at this point the solution is regulation to prohibit vertical integration. Phone manufacturers make the phone and only the phone. OS vendors only make the OS. App makers only make apps. Cellular networks only own tower networks. And cellular carriers only provide service (by leasing access to towers and activating phones on their network). That maximizes competition and interoperability.

  10. Re:Shouldn't customers get 40% of their money back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the plus side, the battery will literally last forever. Charging to 90% doubles the life of a LiPo, charging to only 50% eliminates cycle-based aging almost completely (the cells will still degrade, but just as quick as they would if you didn't use them at all). 60% will likely last very long.

  11. Why does this solve the problem? by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem is battery terminals manufactured too close together. Why does having 40% less stored energy make the problem any better?

    --
    Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
  12. Re:Shouldn't customers get 40% of their money back by arth1 · · Score: 2

    They're offering customers 100% of their money back, the trouble is getting people to actually return the recalled phones.

    How does that work if you "bought' the phone as part of a several year long contract? Will Samsung buy out your contract?

  13. How about being able to do this on all phones? by Razed+By+TV · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After the article about Sony boosting battery life ( https://hardware.slashdot.org/... ) I started looking for a way to stop my phone from charging past 80%. I was hoping to find an Xposed module that covered it, but no such luck. There don't seem to be any apps to do it, either.

    Its interesting that Samsung cobbled together something to do it. I wonder if it is hardware specific, or can be exported to other devices.

    1. Re:How about being able to do this on all phones? by macs4all · · Score: 3, Interesting

      After the article about Sony boosting battery life ( https://hardware.slashdot.org/... ) I started looking for a way to stop my phone from charging past 80%. I was hoping to find an Xposed module that covered it, but no such luck. There don't seem to be any apps to do it, either. Its interesting that Samsung cobbled together something to do it. I wonder if it is hardware specific, or can be exported to other devices.

      Apple routinely charges all batteries in all systems to around the optimal level of 85%. Has been doing that for years. Maybe that's why all of my current Apple gear, including my 2013 MacBook Pro, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 4s, and even the relatively ancient iPad 2 I'm typing this on, have virtually the same battery life as when they were new. For example, my iPad, which sees HEAVY use every single day, still gets over 10 hours of typical email, web browsing, etc.; actually probably closer to 12 hours.

      With Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries, the key really IS the charging profile, and nobody else but Apple seems to understand that. Don't know why; but it seems to be true.

  14. Re:Shouldn't customers get 40% of their money back by pnutjam · · Score: 2

    yes, you'll get your money back. I traded my wife's note7 for an s7 edge and it just changed the payment. I also got a $150 card at the store I bought it, which I got to keep, and a 256 GB SD card from Samsung, which I also kept. The s7 edge, also had a $150 gift card promotion, I got that as well.
    So, this has worked out ok for me, but the note 7 was much better then the s7 edge, so that is a bit of a disappointment.
    It also took about 3 hours to do the exchange, which is horrendous.