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Colin Powell's Private Email Account Has Been Hacked (theverge.com)

According to The New York Times, Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has been hacked and a password-protected archive of his personal emails has been published by DC Leaks. The Verge reports: DC Leaks is the same site that first published emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee, which many took as an explicit effort to influence the U.S. election process. Many experts in the U.S. intelligence apparatus have attributed that attack to the Russian government, although no public attribution has been made. Thus far, there's no evidence tying Powell's hack to Russia, and similar hacks have been carried out by mischievous teens without government affiliation. The immediate result of the hack has been political fallout for Powell himself. Last night, BuzzFeed News reported on an email in which Powell called Republican nominee Donald Trump a "national disgrace," and another in which he said the candidate was "in the process of destroying himself."

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  1. Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even though he was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama.

    This does not bode well.

    1. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are two completely different people. The things that made people want to vote for Obama aren't necessarily present in Hillary, and the reasons why people don't want to vote for Hillary weren't necessarily a factor for Obama. Hillary has a lot more baggage than Obama ever did.

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    2. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by unixisc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even though he was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama.

      This does not bode well.

      One thing that's never made sense to me was his claim of being a Republican. He had very few Republican positions, and as Secretary of State, he was one of the most Left Wing members of the administration. The reason Iraq (and Afghanistan) went to hell in a handbasket was his influence - the idea of making nation-building a part of the mission was his idea, not just W's. Also, the Valerie Plame leaks - which Scooter Libby was convicted for - was the doings of his deputy Dick Armitage, who now supports HRC. All the things that Libby was accused of - endangering a CIA desk agent - was something that Armitage actually did, and for which paid NO price!

      It's funny how Hilary's minions (to steal Powell's phrase) have totally pissed off Powell from being a never-Trumper to a Hilary-neither voter. Sit at home, Colin!

    3. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, what he specifically said is "I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect". He then refers to her age, her ambition, and her inflexibility.

      I feel the same way as Powell does. I would rather not have to vote for her - but the Republican Party left me with no choice.

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    4. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nonsense, you've got all kinds of choice: Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Darrell Castle, write in somebody else, or just leave that space on the ballot blank.

      People who insist on holding their nose and voting for whichever of the two major party candidates they dislike least because they don't want to "waste their vote" are part of the problem -- and are wasting their votes.

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    5. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I disagree. In most of the previous recent elections, there was an okay candidate and a bad candidate. This time, there are two very bad candidates. Trump is probably slightly less bad in practice, because he has fewer Washington connections and most of Congress hates him, so he'll have worse policies but less chance of getting them through. Clinton has marginally less bad policies, but is sufficiently familiar with the Washington machine that she'll probably pass a lot of them.

      W wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't been a Bush. If he'd not had the family connections with experience to help get things done, he'd probably have been an ineffectual and unmemorable president.

      Given that it's going to be bad whoever wins, you may as well vote for someone you actually want to win, in the hope that next time they'll seem electable enough that people will vote for them thinking that they might actually stand a chance.

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    6. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If Trump gets in it will result in a lurch to the right, and the GOP will support the worst if his polices. He will screw things up internationally too.

      Hilary may not be great, but the potential for catastrophe is much lower.

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    7. Re:Powell can't bring himself to vote for Hillary by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given her track record: An increase in corporate power, more wars, and a big step up in the deployment of the surveillance state, coupled with a greater deduction in credibility for the left making it even harder to undo.

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  2. Re:They're boring in a good way by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Informative

    He refers to Hillary as "unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still dicking bimbos at home." That didn't bore me at all!

  3. Summary Incomplete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The summary totally ignores Powell's extremely critical remarks about Hillary, her lies, manipulation, and the public exploitation of his name against his wishes.

    A lie of omission is still a lie, and that you choose to ignore these facts makes them all the more critical to examine.

    1. Re:Summary Incomplete by quantaman · · Score: 3, Informative

      The summary totally ignores Powell's extremely critical remarks about Hillary, her lies, manipulation, and the public exploitation of his name against his wishes.

      A lie of omission is still a lie, and that you choose to ignore these facts makes them all the more critical to examine.

      Funny, I didn't see him call her a liar. Here's the most critical remarks I found about her from the article:

      Mr. Powell lamented that while he respected Mrs. Clinton, he would “rather not have to vote for her,” describing the Democratic presidential nominee as having “a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational.”

      “H.R.C. could have killed this two years ago by merely telling everyone honestly what she had done and not tie me into it,” Mr. Powell wrote late last month, referring to Mrs. Clinton by her initials. “I told her staff three times not to try that gambit. I had to throw a mini-tantrum at a Hamptons party to get their attention. She keeps tripping into these ‘character’ minefields.”

      In December 2015, he told Condoleezza Rice, his successor at the State Department, that the Republican political attacks on Benghazi were “a stupid witch hunt” and wrote that “basic fault falls on a courageous ambassador who thought Libyans now love me and I am O.K. in this very vulnerable place.” He added that “blame also rests on his leaders and supporters back here,” including Mrs. Clinton.

      A few months later, in a discussion about Mrs. Clinton’s email scandal, Mr. Powell lamented that “everything H.R.C. touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”

      Oh, and of course his most critical remarks about Trump:

      Mr. Powell wrote last month that Mr. Trump is “his own best enemy” and added: “I will speak out when I feel it appropriate and not after every idiot thing he says.”

      “No need to debate it with you now, but Trump is a national disgrace and an international pariah,” Mr. Powell wrote in June, noting the criticism of Mr. Trump by several prominent conservatives. “He is in the process of destroying himself, no need for Dems to attack him.”

      “Yup, the whole birther movement was racist,” Mr. Powell wrote. “That’s what the 99% believe. When Trump couldn’t keep that up he said he also wanted to see if the certificate noted that he was a Muslim. As I have said before, ‘What if he was?’ Muslims are born as Americans everyday.”

      Mr. Powell dismissed as completely ineffective Mr. Trump’s recent attempts to reach out to black voters, saying that the Republican nominee “takes us for idiots.”

      “He can never overcome what he tried to do to Obama with his search for the birth certificate hoping to force Obama out of the presidency,” Mr. Powell wrote, saying to his aide, “You don’t fall for his false sincerity, I hope.”

      “He appeals to the worst angels of the G.O.P. nature and poor white folks,”

      So... are you sure you want the summary to go into his opinions on the candidates?

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  4. The guy who.... by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The immediate result of the hack has been political fallout for Powell himself.

    The guy who has no political aspirations? Nah, he's untouchable politically because he has no ambition. He is like the Buddha of US politics: having no desires, he feels no pain at loss.

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  5. Re: They're boring in a good way by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would be comfortable with Powell in charge. He always preferred diplomacy over a military solution, and he was not in favor of any military action that didn't serve the interests of the US. We could do a lot worse than that.

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  6. Re:They're boring in a good way by dbreeze · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's more than just tabloid material. It's indicative of the type of characters making decisions and taking actions on behalf of you and me. Guess who gets to pay the bill and clean up the mess when these types are done feeding their egos and wallets?

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  7. Re: They're boring in a good way by unixisc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it was wrong intelligence. Or else, why did UK, run by a Left wing government run by Tony Blair, back that? They could easily have told the US that Iraq had nothing, and that would have worked, but everybody's intelligence agencies seemed to suggest that Saddam had chemical and/or biological weapons

  8. Re: They're boring in a good way by Boronx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did you watch it? His best evidence was a satellite picture of trucks leaving a building. He had no evidence, and he presented no evidence. To his credit, he at least didn't try to show any fake evidence. To his everlasting shame, he did make it sound like the evidence was damning. Your horse shit is just more on the pile.

  9. Re:Saddam and WMDs by Boronx · · Score: 5, Informative

    They did produce evidence. The UN inspectors had free run of the country for several months prior to the war. In their own words, the US evidence was "shit". Of course they found no evidence of an ongoing weapons program, because there was none.

    In any case, the US never has produced any real evidence, before or after for their WMD claims.

    They had cryptic radio intercepts.
    They had satellite pictures of trucks leaving buildings.
    They had unknown chemical processing trucks (turned out to be hydrogen production. The design was known, but not by Powell.).
    They had aluminum tubes.

    For hard evidence, that's all they had.

  10. Re: They're boring in a good way by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Informative

    You asked "why?"

    why did UK, run by a Left wing government run by Tony Blair, back that?

    1. Because warhawks are warhawks, and allies are allies, regardless of party affiliation. After 9/11, Europe sympathized with the US.

    everybody's intelligence agencies seemed to suggest that Saddam had chemical and/or biological weapons

    2. Actually, the intelligence agencies didn't suggest this. The politicians claimed that the intelligence agencies said this, but they really didn't. The agencies don't really speak publicly, they speak through the elected officials that they report to. We now know that what they told the president and prime minister isn't the same as what the president and prime minister said publicly.

    For example: We now know that for example, at the time that George W. Bush gave a speech about the supposed "yellow cake uranium," that he knew it was falsified evidence but proceeded with the speech anyway. The UK did the same thing, leading up to the invasion, asking BBC reporters to basically make-up phony facts.

    If you look back at the evidence, it was clear that the evidence was being used to justify an already decided-upon conclusion. For example: The UK and US cited a shipment of aluminum tubes as evidence that Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons. It turns out that the tubes were used for the much more mundane purpose of rockets. If you saw an aluminum tube that could be used for rockets or nuclear weapons, and you knew the country was developing rockets, why would you assert that these tubes are evidence of nuclear weapons? Certainly, it is possible. But they didn't present it as "well, it was probably used for rockets, but maybe it is for nukes (shrug)." It was presented as "OMG This is proof that they are developing nukes!" A lie of omission is still a lie.

    You asked "Why?" It is important to understand why. It is because well-intentioned people can sometimes lie to support what they believe is right. The populus and the media in particular, must be vigilant against such things. The New York times, has since, apologized for being the white house's mouthpiece.

  11. Re: They're boring in a good way by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it was wrong intelligence. Or else, why did UK, run by a Left wing government run by Tony Blair, back that? They could easily have told the US that Iraq had nothing, and that would have worked, but everybody's intelligence agencies seemed to suggest that Saddam had chemical and/or biological weapons

    Read the damned Downing Street Memos
    The policy is to invade, and the intel is being fixed around the policy
    That's 2002. Seriously, brownnosing Bush won't help change the war crimes committed in our name.

  12. Re:Lifting candidates by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't found many people that really like Hilliary although I have heard from a lot of people that say they will vote for her. I've heard more people that like Trump but there are still more that don't but say they will vote for him. So far it seems to me the one thing going for Trump is that he's not Hilliary. The number one thing going for Hilliary is that she's a Democrat. I know tons of people that would vote for Satan himself if he ran on the Democratic ticket.

  13. Re:Saddam and WMDs by dbIII · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why didn't they produce evidence that Iraq did not have WMDs

    Many did.
    One from Australia quit his intelligence job (preparing reports on Iraq) and ran for the Senate with the argument that Iraq did not have WMDs and the war was based on a lie. He was not just some Snowden but had served for twenty years reached the rank of lieutenant colonel and had also worked for Raytheon.
    He was in the Australian Senate for a few years and is in now Member of the Australian Parliament for Denison and his name is Andrew Wilkie.

  14. The problem w/ nation building by unixisc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The reason nation building worked post WWII was that the countries involved already had democratic traditions, and self criticism, while somewhat new, was something those countries were capable of. The US didn't sit down to write constitutions from scratch - as far as West Germany went, they sat down and put together the list of things that Germans could not do. Things like putting together a constitution was something that the West Germans did, and it was nothing similar to the Third Reich. Same w/ Italy - no semblance to the Mussolini regime that had been overthrown.

    That's a totally different situation from Afghanistan and Iraq. Like the mission of Operation Enduring Freedom was to topple the Taliban. What followed? The creation of a constitution in Afghanistan that states that no law shall contravene the rules of Sharia. So the same issues that one had in Afghanistan w/ the Taliban are just bound to return, and the only thing there is that the regime is not anti-US as the Taliban was. Spending billions on the reconstruction of Afghanistan to win 'hearts & minds' has bombed. How do you win the hearts & minds of people who have neither?

    In Iraq, Saddam was toppled, w/ the naïve assumption that the replacement regime would be a Jeffersonian democracy, w/ Shi'ites and Sunnites singing Kumbaya. It never happened, and the reason it can't happen is that those 2 have a historical rivalry dating back to after the death of Mohammed. Like the fable of the 4 geniuses who put together a lion w/o stopping to think that the revived lion would eat them (or Trump's narration of Al Wilson's song 'The Snake' at his rallies), none of the geniuses in either the State Department or outside it stopped to consider that if the Shi'ites came to power in Baghdad, you'd have a Shi'ite Crescent of Teheran, Baghdad, Damascus and partially Beirut (w/ Hizbullah).

    Allying w/ either side in this conflict - Shi'ite or Sunnite - is idiotic. None of them are our allies. While Obama deserves to be faulted for the Iran deal and a restrained policy towards Iranian boats taunting US Navy vessels in the Gulf, Bush too deserves to be faulted for regarding Saudi Arabia and Qatar as allies. The issue w/ Bush/Powell/Rice was that he saw them as 'people of faith', even though the faith in question is a barbaric one. Obama/Clinton/Kerry's problem is that when the Arab Spring started, they continued the Bush doctrine policies of 'promoting democracy' by supporting the Arab Spring, w/ disastrous results.

    What was worse was letting Qatar and Saudi Arabia guide their policy on Syria. Granted - Bashar al Assad was no saint, but he wasn't running a genocide in his country when it all started. If anything, he was trying to reform things so that opposition to his regime from the Sunnis would decrease. However, the Saudis and Qataris wanted to replace his regime w/ a Sunni one in Damascus, and tried to first get the US to agree, and then used the Arab Spring as a pretext to support it. It's not like they were clean either - Bahrein too wanted democracy, and Saudi troops marched in to prop up the Hanafas. Anyway, they all started supporting their own favorite factions - be it the Free Syrian Army, Khorasan, and so on, and plunged that country into civil war.

    The point I was making was that everyone who supported nation building, as well as getting rid of dictators and replacing them w/ whoever the people wanted, turned out to be wrong. The intervention in Libya, which was supported not just by Hilary & Obama but also by McCain and a whole bunch of Republicans across the board: they only turned on that policy once it turned south. This despite the fact that one of the few benefits of the Iraq war was Gadaffi voluntarily ending his WMD program, and doing what he could to restore relations w/ the West. Yeah, he was evil, but there was no reason to support his ouster when he was on a reformation trajectory. Now, Cyrenaica is completely under the control of ISIS, and Tripoli has a regim

  15. Re:Lifting candidates by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well he's not wrong, about a month and a half ago Reuters changed their polling method because it was showing 3rd party candidates taking more from Hillary than Trump.

    The problem with polling in general is it is often used to influence the way people think rather than report on how they think. Many of the polling firms are marketing groups, not political scientists.

    The problem with polling this election is that every poll I've seen relies on the assumption that the turnout demographics in 2016 will be the same as they were in 2012 or 2008, but no one justifies this assumption. I find it hard to believe that blacks will come out for Hillary the way they came out for Obama. On the other hand the white working class hasn't had anyone speak to them about trade and immigration like Trump has in pretty much forever.

    I don't know what the turnout will be in November, so I can't "unskew" the polls. But since the pollsters never justify the fundamental premise of the polls, I can't trust them either. I would just take any poll numbers you see with a massive grain of salt.

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