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Windows 10 Haters: Try Linux On Kaby Lake Chips With Dell's New XPS 13 (pcworld.com)
Attention Linux enthusiasts. Your OS of your choice can finally work on laptops with Intel's Kaby Lake chips. Dell is releasing three new models of slick XPS 13 Developer Edition that will be available with Ubuntu OS and 7th Generation Core processors in the U.S. and Canada starting on Oct. 10, reports PCWorld. From the article:Prices for XPS 13 DE will start at $949. Dell also announced the XPS 13 model with Kaby Lake and Windows 10, which will ship on Oct. 4 starting at $799. Dell didn't share details on what version of Ubuntu desktop OS will be preloaded. It officially supports Ubuntu 14.04 in existing laptops, but could pre-load version 16.04 on the new XPS 13 DE. Dell has remained committed to Linux while major PC vendors shift to Windows 10 on PCs. Intel made a major commitment to supporting Windows 10 with its new Kaby Lake chips but hasn't talked much about Linux support. XPS 13 DE is perhaps the sexiest and thinnest Linux laptop available, with an edge-to-edge screen being a stand-out feature. It is the latest in Dell's Project Sputnik line of laptops, and it is targeted at computer enthusiasts who want a Windows or Mac alternative. A knock against Linux is that the OS has lagged behind Windows on driver development and on supporting the latest technologies like USB-C ports, 4K screens, and Thunderbolt. Project Sputnik started four years ago as an effort between Dell and the open-source community to bridge that gap, and since then, the resulting laptops have achieved cult status among Linux enthusiasts. A Dell XPS 13 with a Core i5 chip will have a full HD screen, 8GB of RAM, and a 128GB SSD. Another configuration will have a 3200 x 1800-pixel screen, Core i5, and a 256GB SSD. A fully loaded model will have a Core i7 chip, a 512GB SSD, 16GB of RAM, and a 3200 x 1800-pixel screen.
Can't I get one with Fedora?
Try Korora Linux instead.
Debian/Ubuntu slow, Fedora/Centos Fast.
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
3200 x 1800 is still 16:9, which is shortscreen bullshit. Fuck that. Why can't they give us a good 4:3 screen, the way good screens are supposed to be?
It's depressing, the only laptops with decent screens now seem to be Microsoft's Surface line and some Panasonic Toughbook models.
Circumcision is child abuse.
A hater is a person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. I as well as many other slashdotters have legitimate substantiated grievances with the business practices and technical decisions made by Microsoft. Quit trying to marginalize dissent in the ranks of your advertising audience.
Good people go to bed earlier.
The problem here is that the Linux version is 150$ more expensive. So basically, you pay more to have a free OS. Sound logical.
Aren't articles like this supposed to have a brown title bar, or something? I'm confoozed.
the better for linux. So, lets all hate win 10 a bit.
That's not difficult, after all why would I want to run malware
From the first sentence of the Wiki for those who are in denial or can't be bothered clicking on the link.
"Malware, short for malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising."
Sound familiar? Of course, most people will say "But I don't have anything to hide" - Sad really, they have been in the water too long and now it's started to get hot. I hope they enjoy their gold plated chains.
Oh I almost forgot Linux also works on Skylake systems as well.
There ain't no such thing as proprietary standards only proprietary formats. Standards are by definition open.
Executive summary: It makes total sense if you have any inkling of how the PC business works. ISVs pay hardware makers to pre-install their software on consumer PCs, thus partially subsidizing the PC for the consumer. They consider it a marketing expense. Yes, you actually do get PAID to have that shovelware put in front of your face. Couple that with the larger unit volumes for Win10 equipped devices and there's your answer.
Can't you just but the Windows 10 model and put whatever Linux you want on it? Or do they lock that down now?
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
...to like linux, and windows 10 now includes linux bash shell in windows 10... does that mean windows 10 hates windows 10? If so, then I think Cortana might have become self-aware and reached AI levels of humans to learning the gift of self-hatred...
The XPS13 is a fine PC, I installed Mint 18 on it with zero hassle and everything worked first time. I am very happy with now I have it but buying it was a major mission as from what I can see it is a US only product. I live in New Zealand where you can not order it from the NZ version of the Dell website. I had to get access to a USA issue credit card to pay for it and ship it to a USA based address. I real hassle. The funny thing is Dell know who pays for their products and who they ship it to but never bother to ask who is buying it or who the owner will be.
Bottom line is Dell are a PIA to deal with but have a first class product, way nicer that the Apple MBA it replaced.
The problem here is that the Linux version is 150$ more expensive. So basically, you pay more to have a free OS. Sound logical.
You make the mistake of assuming that linux users are linux users because they are cheap. At least for mysself and the others I know that use Linux, we use it because it works better, is more secure, and we like it. I just like Unix and it's linux flavor. That's why my computers are either OSX or Linux. 150 is well worth it to me.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Linux version has different parts. From memory the WiFi chipset is different as the one in the Windows version has poor Linux support whereas the XPS DE has changed to a chipset with good driver support. Not sure what your time is worth but $150 was worth it from a machine where everything worked first time on Linux. Compared to the Apple MBA that my XPS DE replaced it is a dream. It took many hours to get the Mac working on Linux and I never did get the camera working on it. So yea I spent $150 on a free OS, then promptly replaced Ubuntu with Mint 18 anyway. It worked first time too, no drivers needed.
If the $150 really worries you then XPS is probably the wrong range of machines to look at, there are plenty of cheaper options out there.
If their shovelware was better written, it would work in WINE, and then they could still have it preinstalled. Maybe even easier to preinstall it, since a WINE prefix can be straight up copied between machines without having to use disk imaging software.
Who the hell wants that shit on their computer? For me, not having it on the computer is just icing on the cake. Saves me the trouble of uninstalling it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The problem here is that the Linux version is 150$ more expensive. So basically, you pay more to have a free OS. Sound logical.
You make the mistake of assuming that linux users are linux users because they are cheap. At least for mysself and the others I know that use Linux, we use it because it works better, is more secure, and we like it. I just like Unix and it's linux flavor. That's why my computers are either OSX or Linux. 150 is well worth it to me.
While I agree with you. The parent post is wrong. The $799 laptop with Windows has an i3, 4GB memory, 128 GB SSD. The Ubuntu version has an i5, 8GB memory, 256 GB SSD. Looking on Dell's website, the Windows version is $100 more with the same specs.