iPhone 7 Home Button Now Requires Skin Contact To Work (todaysiphone.com)

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iPhone 7 Home Button Now Requires Skin Contact To Work (todaysiphone.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Friday September 16, 2016 @07:00PM from the human-touch dept.

Gone are the days of pressing the home button of your iPhone with an inanimate object. With the new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, the home button can only be activated when in contact with skin. TodaysiPhone reports: The new "solid-state" Home button found in the new iPhone 7 and 7 Plus appears to require skin contact to function. As the season gets colder, and as people put gloves on, users will quickly realize that attempting to unlock the iPhone with said gloves or with a sleeve of a shirt over your finger will not work. And with the new lock screen in iOS 10, there's no way to bring up the passcode screen without pressing the Home button. Tests have shown that using gloves designed for touch screens will get an iPhone 6s Plus to unlock but not an iPhone 7 Plus. As most of us know, the Home button in the iPhone 7 is no longer a physical button -- it sits flush and uses the iPhone's haptic feedback to give the sensation of a button press. Because the button requires skin contact, it's lead us to believe that the Home button on the iPhone 7 uses Touch ID to figure out if you're pressing the button. The report notes that Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens. The reason (in a nutshell) why we cannot interact with the capacitive Home button when wearing gloves is because the gloves block the body's natural conductivity -- humans conduct electricity and Apple's new Home button (as well as most touch screens) has an electrical charge. On the flip side, the reason why the Home button registers our skin is because it distorts the screen's electrostatic field at the point of contact, thus triggering an action.

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So? by sexconker · 2016-09-16 19:16 · Score: 5, Insightful

Considering that the fingerprint scanner and the screen already needed meat, what's the difference?
To unlock you need to use your fingerprint, a password, a pin/pattern, or a slide with some meaty appendage anyway, right?
1. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 19:24 · Score: 1
  
  I was just thinking, the iPhone was one of the last phones that even had a physical button there. My Lumia doesn't, not many Droids that spring to mind have one...
2. Re:So? by Dutch+Gun · 2016-09-16 19:38 · Score: 2
  
  Gosh, whatever will we do? Oh, wait. Problem solved. Funny enough, some first-world problems have a first world solution as well.
  Can we go back to bitching about the loss of the headphone jack, or is that already passé? I think we're just trying to find things to complain about at this point.
  
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3. Re:So? by hcs_$reboot · 2016-09-16 19:40 · Score: 2
  
  One added value: it won't wake-up by mistake in your pocket (unless you get very happy)
  
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4. Re:So? by SuricouRaven · 2016-09-16 19:41 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  My 'droid has four physical buttons: Power, home, vol up, vol down. They are reliable, provide good tactile feedback, and comfortable to use. I'd say they were ideal solutions if not for the problem of water resistance. Judging by the number of advertisments I see recently promoting phones for their water resistance, this must be a feature in some demand.
  But then my phone is also a few years old, so it doesn't reflect the latest trends. And it's got a big crack on the screen where it fell onto concrete. Still works fine though. I don't need the latest super-phone: My old Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 is two and a half years old and it still does everything I could ask of it. It also gives me the right to taunt all iPhone users about their lack of an SD card slot.
5. Re:So? by malditaenvidia · 2016-09-16 19:58 · Score: 1
  
  The reality distortion field wins again! Yay!
6. Re:So? by davester666 · 2016-09-16 19:59 · Score: 1
  
  ...and go commando and have holes in your pockets...
  It that you, Peewee Herman?
  
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7. Re:So? by bloodhawk · 2016-09-16 20:02 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  did you not even read the summary. even iPhone 6's and certainly my galaxy worked fine with the gloves being sold that would allow you to use finger sensitive touch screens, that no longer works. In winter on my Galaxy I can enter a pin using gloves rather than a fingerprint. that is no longer possible with a 7 apparently.
8. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 20:39 · Score: 1
  
  Waterproof physical buttons are trivial. Just don't let the buttons protrude through holes in the waterproof cover. Instead, put them under the cover and use a cover material soft/springy enough that the buttons beneath can be pressed with tactile feedback and all. Plenty of plastics & rubbers fits this bill.
9. Re: So? by Z00L00K · 2016-09-16 20:41 · Score: 1
  
  Or use magnets.
  
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10. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 20:42 · Score: 1
  
  I'm not gonna carry around fingerless gloves to use my phone
11. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 20:45 · Score: 0
  
  There is no need to bitch about the loss of the headphone jack, because there are alternatives. If you don't want a phone without a headphone jack - buy one that has a headphone jack. Some phones have this jack, some don't. If the jack is important to you, make it a purchasing decision. That what I do - so my phone has a jack. There are manufacturers catering to most preferences - you can even have physical buttons if you like.
12. Re:So? by Gussington · 2016-09-16 20:48 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  I'd say they were ideal solutions if not for the problem of water resistance.
  Is this a problem? Samsung has waterproof phones with tactile buttons
13. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:09 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Great, let's all wear gloves that leave the most frostbite-sensitive part of the hand unprotected. And while we're at it, let's all switch to crotchless pants. I hear the iphone 8 will courageously require a...*ahem*..."DNA" sample to unlock. For maximum security, you understand.
14. Re: So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:18 · Score: 0
  
  can confirm. Galaxy S5.
15. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:24 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  > Considering that the fingerprint scanner and the screen already needed meat, what's the difference?
  After learning that police can compel the use of a fingerprint to unlock a phone, no, I don't enable or use the fingerprint feature.
  Plus if I'm driving and I need to get my wife to unlock my phone while she's sitting in the passenger seat, it is going to be damn awkward for me and potentially illegal if I have to supply my fingerprint.
  Apple's engineers now appear to be getting lost without the direction of Steve Jobs. They don't know where to go or what needs to be innovated now.
16. Re: So? by phayes · 2016-09-16 21:39 · Score: 1
  
  The Samsung Galaxy 7 is even better! It BOOM
  
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17. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:16 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Stop being so lazy and just move to a warmer state you dumb fucks. Iphone its worth it.
18. Re:So? by stooo · 2016-09-16 22:16 · Score: 1
  
  Then use a proper phone, like, say, a Motorola.
  
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19. Re:So? by Malc · 2016-09-16 22:32 · Score: 1
  
  It's not just gloves, but situations where you have the phone behind a clear cover perhaps when you're exercising. I know the new phone is supposed to be waterproof, but that doesn't necessary negate having the phone in some sort of container and wanting to use it without removing it.
20. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:48 · Score: 0
  
  Oh, I hurt the fanboi's feelings.
  There, there, let uncle Tim hold you. Feeling better now?
21. Re: So? by NotAPK · 2016-09-16 22:56 · Score: 2
  
  Have been flying around Germany the past few days. Every Lufthansa flight was prefaced with a warning about the Note 7 stating that it should not be turned on or charged.
  What amazing free publicity!!!
22. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 23:05 · Score: 0
  
  Does your robot wife not have real skin so she can operate the phone?
  Maybe you should stop wasting so much money on phones and instead spend it on a better realdoll.
23. Re:So? by markdavis · 2016-09-17 00:02 · Score: 1
  
  >"Considering that the fingerprint scanner and the screen already needed meat, what's the difference?"
  So it never occurred to you that there might actually be people who do NOT want to use the fingerprint functionality; who do not want to enroll and/or do not want their data stored or used?
24. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 00:27 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Being from a colder state, I support this plan. I'll keep my android and the state can get rid of half the dumbasses moving here in the bargain.
25. Re:So? by Applehu+Akbar · 2016-09-17 01:14 · Score: 1
  
  "My 'droid has four physical buttons: Power, home, vol up, vol down. They are reliable, provide good tactile feedback, and comfortable to use."
  iPhones have also had the same four physical buttons, plus a ringer on/off. The big change in 7 is that the Home button is now a touch, like the rest of the screen, but with a vibratory feedback.
  Next bombshell: screen reflectance from the iPhone 7 causes acne.
26. Re:So? by Applehu+Akbar · 2016-09-17 01:23 · Score: 1
  
  "After learning that police can compel the use of a fingerprint to unlock a phone, no, I don't enable or use the fingerprint feature."
  If you didn't keep your Dabiq subscription app on your phone, you wouldn't need to avoid using the fingerprint. It's a huge convenience for all of us outside the tinfoil sector.
27. Re:So? by Misagon · 2016-09-17 02:15 · Score: 1
  
  ... or a slide with some meaty appendage anyway, right?
  The thing is that slide-to-unlock is gone in iOS 10.
  There should be a hack to enable it in iOS 10 Beta 1, with a HowTo here.
  I am no Apple sheeple that have any iOS device so I have no idea if it will work in the final version.
  
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28. Re: So? by thegarbz · 2016-09-17 02:20 · Score: 1
  
  Oh you know of a reported case of the Galaxy 7 exploding?
  That's incredible. I've never even heard of a Galaxy 7.
29. Re:So? by ortholattice · 2016-09-17 02:23 · Score: 1
  
  I have Raynaud syndrome and cannot even take food out of the freezer without gloves - my fingers, even ones I didn't touch anything with, turn ghostly white, then purple, then start hurting. Outside in the winter, even a brief exposure without gloves results in chilblain (mild frostbite) ulcers that take weeks to heal. Diltiazem helps a little, but I have still gotten chilblains while on it.
  In my case, an iPhone or any touchscreen at all is out of the question in the winter. I have an old-fashioned cell phone with buttons that allow me to answer the phone with thinner gloves I have on under heavy mittens, but forget fingerless gloves.
30. Re:So? by RogueWarrior65 · 2016-09-17 02:25 · Score: 2
  
  Exactly. I have a pair of glove liners with conductive fabric sewn into the finger tips. Works well enough for simple things.
  Pro tip: Have the phone memorize the print of more than one finger in case you have a bandage on your primary unlock finger.
31. Re: So? by NotAPK · 2016-09-17 02:40 · Score: 1
  
  He he, offtopic absolutely.
  Apple shill, not one bit. Their products are absolutely over-priced and under-featured.
  The problem here is that why would you even choose to line up over issues as banal as smart phone choice? Young men have lined up and shot at each other over the fancies of the rich and powerful and I've always regarded that as tragic. But the older I get the more I realise that those instincts are more intrinsic than I realised.
  It's a real shame that Samsung have wasted all that effort producing a product that does not work. It was not the first and it won't be the last company to do so. What is terrifying is that aircrew have 17 minutes to get an aircraft on the ground following a cabin fire, otherwise the result is total loss of the aircraft. Think about that for a minute and then decide whether you wish to fly anywhere, let alone over the Atlantic, while these products are in circulation.
32. Re:So? by adolf · 2016-09-17 02:43 · Score: 1
  
  I can use my Galaxy S7 with regular gloves. Home button, other physical buttons, capacitive buttons, touchscreen stuff -- whatever. The sensitivity is software-adjustable.
  It works fine. And it has a better IP rating than the new iPhone.
  It also has a headphone jack, and what seems like a very sensitive barometer.
  
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33. Re:So? by DarkVader · 2016-09-17 02:52 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Except it does work....
  http://www.imore.com/iphone-7-...
34. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:32 · Score: 0
  
  Wait for it, wait for it...
  iGloves!
35. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:59 · Score: 0
  
  My daughter has Raynaud's also. Not as bad as yours - she has a very mild case. But being somewhat familiar with it I wonder if you are in an environment where you can thrive. We haven't had TOO much trouble with my daughter's case while she went to school at UNR - Nevada, Reno campus. It gets hot in the summer, and snows in the winter as it is high desert. That's where she was first diagnosed when her fingers started to purple a bit. She did have to be careful with toes too and wear thick socks in the winter and boots while walking between classes. But back in CA where we live? Not a problem as it never gets cold enough for gloves to be needed (even for her). It may not be possible for your personal situation to move. But if you can, a warmer climate would definitely help.
36. Re:So? by Dutch+Gun · 2016-09-17 04:12 · Score: 2
  
  I use an HTC One, not an iPhone. I just think the hunt for complaints has gotten absurd. And besides, "courage" was the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while, so I'm not sure the magic iField is properly affecting me.
  
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37. Re: So? by greenfruitsalad · 2016-09-17 04:13 · Score: 0
  
  i have 50 euro in my pocket with physical button dongle written on it. isn't that the apple way? at this rate, iphone 8 will be half duplex. you'll either connect the microphone or speaker dongle.
38. Re: So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 04:52 · Score: 0
  
  No, you just ID'd yourself as an asshat.
39. Re:So? by Solandri · 2016-09-17 05:23 · Score: 0
  
  Heck, Sony even managed to develop a capacitive touchscreen which works when wet (though not when immersed). If Apple didn't bother testing to make sure that their new virtual Home button worked with common glove finger pads and pens (e.g. hot dog on a stick), that's a pretty huge design failure.
40. Re:So? by sexconker · 2016-09-17 06:44 · Score: 1
  
  So it never occured to you to read the post you were replying to? Or to think?
  At a minimum you need to slide your finger across the screen to unlock a locked iPhone, don't you? You ALREADY need meat to unlock in any fashion.
41. Re:So? by Grishnakh · 2016-09-17 08:01 · Score: 1
  
  Not a problem. You don't have to restrict yourself to an old-fashioned cellphone if you don't want; there's lots of great Android phones which you can use with various winter gloves made for touchscreen use (not fingerless gloves either). I recommend the Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 personally; they're really inexpensive these days. But there's many, many other phones that also work. Just not the latest iPhone, so avoid that piece of crap.
42. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 08:04 · Score: 0
  
  > Oh, wait. Problem solved: fingerless gloves. Funny enough, some first-world problems have a first world solution as well.
  Fingerless gloves are NOT a solution for the first-world countries of Canada, Finland, Norway or the northernly Hokkaido island of Japan. Their people regularly experience 20 degrees below freezing or even colder when outdoors, for up to 6 months a year. They would lose fingers at the altar of Apple's cult.
43. Re:So? by Grishnakh · 2016-09-17 08:06 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know about other phones, but my Galaxy S5 has a fingerprint sensor, and it allows you to register multiple fingerprints with it. So you could let your wife register her fingerprint with your phone so she can unlock it herself while you're driving.
  That won't help too much with the police thing though. But you could use a different finger, and swipe it a different way or something, so that you can feign ignorance when the police try to make you unlock it for them: "look, I'm swiping my fingerprint, and it doesn't work! I don't know what the problem is! (repeat for all 10 fingers)" I don't use mine for unlocking, but I ended up registering my fingerprint sideways, because my Otterbox case prevents me from swiping the sensor in the normal direction.
44. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 09:45 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah? Well my G5 is way better than both your phone and tablet combined.
45. Re:So? by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-17 10:40 · Score: 1
  
  My Note 5 works great with my Joe Rocket Flexium TX motorcycle gloves - and they are standard gauntlet gloves, not "special cap touch" models. Perfect when I want to add fuel-up information at the gas station, no need to pull off my gloves!
  
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46. Re: So? by ememisya · 2016-09-17 14:40 · Score: 1
  
  It puts the iPhone on its skin.
47. Re: So? by GrahamJ · 2016-09-17 14:56 · Score: 1
  
  An iPhone with Touch ID enabled can still be unlocked with a passcode. Just tell her it.
48. Re: So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 14:58 · Score: 0
  
  But it has a nine step anodised jet black gloss finish. Get your priorities in order.
49. Re: So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 15:51 · Score: 0
  
  You're standing in it wrong.
50. Re:So? by arglebargle_xiv · 2016-09-17 22:27 · Score: 1
  
  I can still unlock my iPhone using skin contact, but without using my fingers. Stand by... [zzzzippp] [pause] there, unlocked. Just give me a minute to stow things away again...
51. Re: So? by lsatenstein · 2016-09-18 04:51 · Score: 1
  
  The Samsung Galaxy 7 is even better! It BOOM
  I would say that Samsung trusted their battery suppliers to not provide BOOM batteries. A new software update program will limit the charging rate. But the battery provider and Samsung have to decide who did not read the specs and who is wrong.
  So, if the phone Booms, all that Samsung's obligation should be "Phone replacement", and if it boomed in a shirt pocket, replace the garment and possibly plastic surgery. No million dollar settlements.
  
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52. Re: So? by phayes · 2016-09-18 06:08 · Score: 1
  
  The people suing Samsung like the guy in Florida with severe burns and skin grafts aren't going to be put off by Samsung claiming that the problem was a bad batch from a supplier. Samsung will be condemned for not moving faster to recall them and given the pictures that are already out on the Internet it will indeed be for over 6 figures. Samsung is free to pursue reimbursement from the battery supplier much as everyone is going after Takata for their lethal airbags but Samsung is on the spot first.
  
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53. Re:So? by adolf · 2016-09-18 17:29 · Score: 1
  
  Yep.
  Same with my previous S5, though the responsiveness with gloves did leave a bit to be desired it was still able to be used.
  I'm totally not understanding the current fanboy-isms surrounding the new iPhone's issues.
  
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54. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-19 01:52 · Score: 0
  
  No, waterproofing is not a feature in high demand.
  Manufacturers are desperate to find anything that sets their products apart, or to keep up when someone has found a new feature.
55. Re: So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-19 02:17 · Score: 0
  
  Must have loss something in the translation?
56. Re:So? by Rexdude · 2016-09-19 18:28 · Score: 1
  
  Plus if I'm driving and I need to get my wife to unlock my phone
  Android's Smart Lock feature can keep the phone unlocked when connected to a trusted Bluetooth device like your car.
  
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57. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-20 13:01 · Score: 0
  
  If your wife needs to unlock your phone she can just use your PIN code, you idiot. Fingerprint unlock is just a convenience, you still need to set a PIN as well, did you not know that?
  The police being able to compel a fingerprint is perhaps a somewhat valid point. And of course, fingerprints can be lifted and copied, so not terribly secure. But while I would rather not have the police go through my phone, there really isn't anything on their that I need to hide from them. It's a risk I can accept.
  N.B. I don't normally call people idiots in posts, but that point was such a stupid point to make I felt it was warranted.
First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 19:29 · Score: 5, Funny

Now I need to buy new headphones *and* new gloves?!
1. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by hcs_$reboot · 2016-09-16 22:08 · Score: 1
  
  Size being different, don't forget to buy a new case as well, while you're at it.
  
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2. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by stooo · 2016-09-16 22:18 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  >> Now I need to buy new headphones *and* new gloves?!
  You're holding it wrong.
  
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3. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by Feyshtey · 2016-09-17 00:31 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  If you can run out and be a good little consumer sheep and buy the brand new iPhone, you can afford headphones and gloves.
  
  Apparently it's the price of inflating your ego. Or maybe a tax on vanity.
  
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4. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 01:06 · Score: 0
  
  Can you use your elbow, assuming you're wearing a half-sleeved shirt, to press the home button?
5. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by unixisc · 2016-09-17 07:32 · Score: 1
  
  Ain't they planning to ultimately get rid of home buttons? What will they do after that?
6. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by mea2214 · 2016-09-17 13:27 · Score: 1
  
  Now I need to buy new headphones *and* new gloves?!
  Your small sacrifice allows you to experience courage.
7. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 17:35 · Score: 0
  
  Make sure you get the Apple-branded gloves from the Apple store. Other gloves are not compatible.
8. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by hucker75 · 2016-09-18 11:49 · Score: 0
  
  Pussies wear gloves, why are you scared of the cold? Are you not warm blooded like every other human?
9. Re:First the 3.5 mm, now this?! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-20 13:12 · Score: 0
  
  As the "home button" now is no longer a button, it seems that they already have.
iPhone 7 = Dumbest iPhone ever by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 19:32 · Score: 0

It sucks balls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-16 19:33 · Score: 1

On every smartphone, when were you able to use (regular) gloves to interact with a touch screen smartphone?
1. Re:As the rest of the screen... by OverlordQ · 2016-09-16 19:45 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Never, but the point is you can't even use the special gloves to do it.
  
  Tests have shown that using gloves designed for touch screens will get an iPhone 6s Plus to unlock but not an iPhone 7 Plus.
  
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2. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Hognoxious · 2016-09-16 20:22 · Score: 1
  
  I saw someone on Dragons' Den pushing special gloves that work with a touch screen. IIRC they told him to get lost.
  I'd always just assumed they didn't work with ordinary gloves, but this made me try it and mine (a low end Samsung) does. Up till then I'd been operating it with my snout for a third of the year.
  
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3. Re:As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-16 20:40 · Score: 1
  
  Never, but the point is you can't even use the special gloves to do it.
  
  Tests have shown that using gloves designed for touch screens will get an iPhone 6s Plus to unlock but not an iPhone 7 Plus.
  But TouchID didn't work either with the physical button if you had gloves on, that's why i got myself a pair of fingerless gloves to use my 6s Plus when is cold.
4. Re: As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 20:44 · Score: 0
  
  I could use regular gloves to interact with my Galaxy Note4
5. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:11 · Score: 0
  
  Never, but the point is you can't even use the special gloves to do it.
  
  Tests have shown that using gloves designed for touch screens will get an iPhone 6s Plus to unlock but not an iPhone 7 Plus.
  Except a few sentences later they say "Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens" So WTF is up with the summary?
6. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:31 · Score: 1
  
  So WTF is up with the summary?
  Clickbait.
7. Re:As the rest of the screen... by phayes · 2016-09-16 21:56 · Score: 1
  
  Then you use this NOVEL ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE CONCEPT called a LOCK SCREEN PASSWORD to unlock it.
  Emphasis added to help the slow people among us catch up.
  
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8. Re:As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-16 22:12 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Then you use this NOVEL ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE CONCEPT called a LOCK SCREEN PASSWORD to unlock it.
  Emphasis added to help the slow people among us catch up.
  You call me slow and yet you can't figure out that the same procedure works for both old iPhones and the new iPhone 7, if you use a glove for touchscreens you can still use the LOCK SCREEN PASSWORD and use your phone regardless which one you own. If you are going to call people slow, at least make sure you're not slower.
9. Re:As the rest of the screen... by phayes · 2016-09-17 01:07 · Score: 1
  
  Hey hyperslow, I wasn't the one who wrote "TouchID didn't work either with the physical button if you had gloves on" then added "that's why i got myself a pair of fingerless gloves".
  That WOOSH noise you're ignoring is that you wouldn't need fingerless gloves with these or any of the other gloves that have silver threads in them to be used with capacitive screens.
  Is that still to fast for you hyperslow?
  
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10. Re: As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-17 01:14 · Score: 2
  
  Still haven't figured that screen doesn't work with regular gloves huh? Don't worry, i'll wait, just try to get there faster
11. Re: As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-17 01:24 · Score: 1
  
  I see you still haven't read the whole article, where it clearly states that thouchscreen gloves work perfectly
12. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 01:55 · Score: 0
  
  If you are going to call people slow, first read the summary:
  "And with the new lock screen in iOS 10, there's no way to bring up the passcode screen without pressing the Home button. "
  So to summarize the summary:
  -normal gloves don't work on touch screen
  -touch screen compatible gloves don't work on the home button of the iphone7
  -you need the home button to enter a passcode (which would work with compat. gloves)
13. Re: As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 02:16 · Score: 0
  
  No, it states that a few do but that the majority do not.
  If you've tried iOS 10, you'll discover that it's impossible to get to the pass code screen without either failing TouchID three times or pressing the Home button.
  Because you can't even trigger TouchID with gloves, and you can't press the home button with gloves on the iPhone 7, you simply can't unlock the phone. At all.
14. Re:As the rest of the screen... by kimvette · 2016-09-17 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  Well on the Galaxy S4 you could wear gloves and still be able to use the phone. :)
  
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15. Re:As the rest of the screen... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · 2016-09-17 04:52 · Score: 1
  
  I bought a roll of "conductive" metallic thread at Hobby Lobby, and sewed it though a few fingertips of an extra pair of my own gloves. The thread isn't very expensive, but you have to be a bit careful while sewing because it's actually normal thread wrapped with super-thin metal and can flake apart. After I was done, I dripped a bit of superglue around just the edges of my "pad". Works great.
16. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Hognoxious · 2016-09-17 05:33 · Score: 1
  
  I tend to wear builders'gloves - the kind with rubber/plastic dots on them. Just dug them out to test them. On some they only work with the tip (where there's no dots) - on others there are pads on the tips that work.
  I guess if it's important you should test them before you buy.
  
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17. Re:As the rest of the screen... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 08:19 · Score: 0
  
  On a resistive touch screen.
18. Re: As the rest of the screen... by hyperar · 2016-09-17 11:26 · Score: 1
  
  Yes they do, from TFA: The report notes that Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens.
Designed in California by Bruce66423 · 2016-09-16 19:54 · Score: 5, Insightful

Where it never gets cold...
1. Re:Designed in California by phayes · 2016-09-16 22:00 · Score: 1
  
  Given that you do not seem to have figured out that gloves with silver threads suffice to unlock an iPhone 7 i'd guess that you live all alone on an island in the tropics?
  
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2. Re:Designed in California by richardjhonson123 · 2016-09-16 22:23 · Score: 1
  
  http://goo.gl/7rRLN5
3. Re:Designed in California by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 01:00 · Score: 0
  
  You gotta love it when they pay a guy to do fancy animations for their website, but then fill it with Lorem Ipsum. A 1990's static page with images would have sold more bags.
The iphone can't be appeased with a mere offering. by Z80a · 2016-09-16 20:18 · Score: 5, Funny

It demands an offering of human flesh to work!
Me too. by dohzer · 2016-09-16 20:27 · Score: 1

Sometimes I need skin contact to work too!
1. Re:Me too. by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:36 · Score: 0
  
  any? skin of particular species, of particular gender of particular species, particular part of the skin of particular gender of ....?
Dead in Finland by blind+biker · 2016-09-16 20:28 · Score: 2, Insightful

If this is true, this product is dead, here in Finland. Alternatively, Apple fanboys will have to live with frostbitten fingers. And not even their blind dedication to the cult of Apple will carry to those extremes. Right?

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1. Re: Dead in Finland by Z00L00K · 2016-09-16 20:59 · Score: 1
  
  Cold dead fingers.
  
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2. Re: Dead in Finland by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:12 · Score: 0
  
  No, it won't be. Practically almost all of the users won't need or don't use special gloves and it's been like that before too.
3. Re:Dead in Finland by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:17 · Score: 1
  
  and in a few months we'll learn that the iphone 7 also measures body temperature at the fingertip to determine whether or not the finger is alive and/or still attached to at least a warm body.
4. Re:Dead in Finland by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:00 · Score: 0
  
  I see everyone in Finland has nose warmer, so that option is out too.
5. Re:Dead in Finland by Feyshtey · 2016-09-17 00:35 · Score: 1
  
  Bullshit. The Apple elitists will just become adept at poking the damn thing with their nose. It'll become some kind of twisted salute to one another.
  
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6. Re:Dead in Finland by mark-t · 2016-09-17 02:35 · Score: 1
  
  Just for fun, I tried to see if I could enable touch-id on my iPhone with my nose. Apparently the "fingerprint cannot be read".
  
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7. Re:Dead in Finland by Feyshtey · 2016-09-17 03:33 · Score: 1
  
  HAHAHAH!
  
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8. Re:Dead in Finland by bidule · 2016-09-17 05:46 · Score: 1
  
  Use your nose.
  
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skin? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:01 · Score: 0

finger, nose, tit or penis....how about VOICE for accessibility features?
1. Re:skin? by unixisc · 2016-09-17 07:35 · Score: 1
  
  And then struggle w/ the 50 different accents of English as it varies around the world
2. Re:skin? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-18 00:53 · Score: 0
  
  With a skin sensitive touch sensor the phone only has to detect the difference between the good and the bad touch.
Outrageous! by tlambert · 2016-09-16 21:03 · Score: 1

What?!?!?!
We must now be able to capacitively couple with a device to unlock and use it's capacitively coupled UI?
Outrageous!
1. Re:Outrageous! by Megol · 2016-09-16 23:13 · Score: 1
  
  It's almost like you didn't read anything but the headline and then proceeded to post without thinking...
2. Re:Outrageous! by tlambert · 2016-09-17 10:13 · Score: 1
  
  It's almost like you didn't read anything but the headline and then proceeded to post without thinking...
  It's almost like you didn't read anything but my post and then proceeded to post without thinking...
  I read the article. You apparently, have not.
  It's almost like you think that the UI, including the one that would be brought up by a mechanical "Home" button to enter a passcode, doesn't require capacitive coupling to enter the passcode...
  So you wear the capacitive gloves, you "press" the virtual button (which can't read a fingerprint through the glove anyway), and, just as if you were using an iPhone with a mechanical button with gloves on, you use your capacitive gloves to input the passcode.
  They are bitching about having to have something *before* pressing the capacitive button, which they have to have anyway *after* pressing the mechanical button, just so they have something to bitch about the switch from a mechanical to a capacitive button.
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  To be *crystal clear*, the only ones impacted are going to be Siri-only users who run around with their iPhones always unlocked.
  This may somewhat impact blind users of iPhones, who might be in that small group, but it's no worse than the pre-Siri (or early Siri) days, where there really wasn't any accessibility for the things at all, or where you could use Siri, but then Siri would futz up on you, more often than not.
  I suppose that we could also be concerned about people with artificial limbs, who, if they have not been retrofit with **technology I invented while at Google, and then gave away, rather than patenting**, can't capacitively couple at all, and so are utterly incapable of using touch-screen devices.
  But then, this is a general problem of touch screen devices being disability unfriendly.
  And I suppose we should also include people who are unable to utilize multitouch for gestures -- like those who have artificial limbs, but can't make more than 1-finger gestures, even if their artificial limbs *have* been retrofit to support capacitive coupling.
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I.e. YOUR MAMA IS HOLDING IT WRONGLY! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:23 · Score: 0

Tuff Luv! Lose that FAT!
First World Problems by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:35 · Score: 0

>> ...attempting to unlock the iPhone with said gloves or with a sleeve of a shirt over your finger will not work
Oh my! What is this world coming to? The suffering of actually touching the phone with an un-gloved hand in the cold.
1. Re:First World Problems by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:03 · Score: 0
  
  Actually, in the first world we have gloves with silver threads that suffice to unlock capacitive screen protected devices.
2. Re:First World Problems by Grishnakh · 2016-09-17 14:19 · Score: 1
  
  Only an Apple zealot would think it's acceptable to spend $800 for a phone that you have to take your gloves off to use. Meanwhile, the rest of us all have phones that work just fine with touchscreen-compatible gloves.
Re:The iphone can't be appeased with a mere offeri by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 21:46 · Score: 0

Use your nose instead. problem solved without frostbite on fingers.
In cold weather, use your nose to unlock? by davemc168 · 2016-09-16 21:48 · Score: 1

I saw this a few years ago so can't claim originality :)
Re:So? Learn to read by phayes · 2016-09-16 21:53 · Score: 0

So many ACs are incapable of reading the summary to the end where it says "able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens". Never seen a touchscreen glove with silver threads, huh? Poor boy...

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That's a bigger problem than one might think by Opportunist · 2016-09-16 21:54 · Score: 2

After all, any hipster would put on gloves before it gets cool.

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It's not a bug, it's a feature by thsths · 2016-09-16 22:02 · Score: 2, Insightful

To press the iHome on the iPhone, you have to use proper iGloves, approved by Apple. Now in any Apple store...
1. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 22:37 · Score: 0
  
  > To press the iHome on the iPhone, you have to use proper iGloves, approved by Apple. Now in any Apple store... ... for just 59.99...
2. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 23:08 · Score: 1
  
  And remember, the iGlove 1 only works with the iPhone 7. The iPhone 8 will require a newer model iGlove.
  AND EVERYONE WILL WAIT IN LINE FOR DAYS JUST TO BE THE FIRST TO GET ONE!!!!!
Take Me Home Tonight by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 23:12 · Score: 0

"Yes, Siri."
Not true by Sarpent · 2016-09-16 23:13 · Score: 1

Capacitive gloves video here: http://www.imore.com/iphone-7-...
Not just skin by wonkey_monkey · 2016-09-16 23:16 · Score: 1

Also works with new Apple iGlove, yours for only $79.99.

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Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-16 23:25 · Score: 0

You may have been able to use the home button with gloved hands, but you couldn't use anything else. How would you type in the security code with those same gloved hands? Or use the fingerprint scanner. Or, if you didn't have it locked, how would you tap on an app or do anything on the screen?
So we went from 1 out of 984098340983405910435809238509480198345 interactions being able to be performed ungloved to 0 out of 984098340983405910435809238509480198345. The horror!
1. Re:Who cares? by Grishnakh · 2016-09-17 14:25 · Score: 1
  
  On any decent phone, you can use touchscreen-compatible gloves to use it.
  It's only on the iPhone7 now that apparently you can't unlock the phone without taking your (touchscreen-compatible) glove off.
Sausage Stylus! by Greyfox · 2016-09-17 00:17 · Score: 4, Funny

I heard a story a while back that there was a town where the people use sausages to operate their cell phone when it gets too cold. Having spent the last 6 months working with a mobile test automation framework, I think it would be easier to build an Arduino-powered robot equipped with a sausage and a camera. A mobile-testing abomination, part meat, part machine! Because fuck, Apple sure doesn't make it easy to test on their shit! Naturally, you'd have to replace the sausage every so often, when your sausage robot starts getting smelly. That's just a design consideration, really.

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1. Re:Sausage Stylus! by AvitarX · 2016-09-17 02:46 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe something like Landjäger would work to prevent the smelly problem.
  
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2. Re:Sausage Stylus! by ColdWetDog · 2016-09-17 03:02 · Score: 1
  
  You could always use those little Vienna sausages. I don't think any microbe is capable of digesting them. I've seen them sitting in the open air for a long, long time without apparent ill effect.
  
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3. Re:Sausage Stylus! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-19 04:52 · Score: 0
  
  Just be sure to use the sausage in an environment that stays below the level of needed refrigeration. Frozen sausages do not stink.
Re:So? Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 00:40 · Score: 1

You mean the part where it says that tests with these gloves have NOT been able to unlock the new iPhone? No, never read that. And apparently you didn't, either.
Fantastic by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 00:48 · Score: 0

"...attempting to unlock the iPhone with said gloves or with a sleeve of a shirt over your finger will not work."
Smell that innovation, baby! This is a huge step forward in "user-hostile" design and should be applauded as such.
In other words, "Fuck you, loyal Apple users! We just made our premium gadget harder to use, so suck it, fanbois!"
An Apple spokesgoblin commented, "Next year we'll remove the screen and speaker and replace them with 4 more cameras."
Re:So? Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 00:57 · Score: 0

You total lack of reading comprehension is breathtakingly awesome, you stupid fuck.
"Gone are the days of pressing the home button of your iPhone with an inanimate object. With the new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, the home button can only be activated when in contact with skin. TodaysiPhone reports:
The new "solid-state" Home button found in the new iPhone 7 and 7 Plus appears to require skin contact to function. As the season gets colder, and as people put gloves on, users will quickly realize that attempting to unlock the iPhone with said gloves or with a sleeve of a shirt over your finger will not work."
Tests have shown that using gloves designed for touch screens will get an iPhone 6s Plus to unlock but not an iPhone 7 Plus
this guy is wearing gloves by oz_paulb · 2016-09-17 00:58 · Score: 1

Guy doing waterproof test on iPhone 7 is wearing some sort of gloves that seem to work on both the home button and the touch screen (he unlocks the phone at the very start of the video) : https://youtu.be/3-DtMyn7jfo So, it's not only skin that can operate the home button.
1. Re:this guy is wearing gloves by thegarbz · 2016-09-17 02:20 · Score: 1
  
  Yes we should all use .3mm thick vinyl gloves to keep the cold winter at bay. That will totally work.
  By the way, does the iPhone 7 fingerprint reader recognise the damaged stubs of digits which are left after most of your finger falls off due to frostbite?
2. Re:this guy is wearing gloves by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 06:26 · Score: 0
  
  I seriously don't see how this is an issue.
  Because last I checked, you void the warranty by exposing the iPhone to temperatures below 0 anyway.
  Apparently the official operating range of the iPhone is 0C-35C. Any use outside of that range voids the warranty.
  So no risk of frostbite because you can't use the phone if it's below freezing anyway.
Re: So? Learn to read by LocalH · 2016-09-17 01:49 · Score: 1

But then there's this:
"The report notes that Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens."

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Re: So? Learn to read by LocalH · 2016-09-17 01:50 · Score: 1

"The report notes that Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens."

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Re: So? Learn to read by Fuzi719 · 2016-09-17 02:12 · Score: 1

Perhaps he could activate the button, but it doesn't say he was able to unlock the phone.
Based on "a user on Twitter" by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 02:27 · Score: 0

Why don't people do about 5 minutes of testing (OK, maybe 15)? Get 3-4 pairs of capacitive gloves and try it. Possible explanation for why it might not work is if it is set to fingerprint unlock it needs no-kidding fingerprints.
Re: So? Learn to read by DarkVader · 2016-09-17 02:51 · Score: 1

Hey, look, the gloves work fine:
http://www.imore.com/iphone-7-...
sausage? mmmmmmm by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:01 · Score: 0

See if you'd bought a Samsung it would have cooked your sausage.
Dont worry... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:09 · Score: 0

Rest assured apple fanboys and girlz will be rubbing their skin parts on it when they get their filthy hands on them.
I will return the iphone 7 because of this by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:10 · Score: 0

Actually, if you are going to use iphone 6 with one hand, you have to cut the fingernail of your thumb regularly, otherwise you cannot push the home button easily.
1. Re:I will return the iphone 7 because of this by unixisc · 2016-09-17 09:33 · Score: 1
  
  Return? Are you one of those who've even received it as yet? It already has a big pre-order list, forget the people standing in lines outside stores
They planned it that way by paulxnuke · 2016-09-17 03:37 · Score: 1

Picture it: legions of users who reverently raise their iPhones before their faces every time they use it -- so they can press the button with their nose.
Sieg Apple!
Re: So? Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 03:54 · Score: 0

Yes, it does say that. It also says above that that it isn't able to be unlocked with gloves made for touch screens. As usual, a lame summary that is contradicted by the added editorial text leaving us to wonder which one is correct.
Re: So? Learn to read by fahrbot-bot · 2016-09-17 03:58 · Score: 0

"The report notes that Carl Hancock on Twitter was able to activate the Home button using gloves made to work specifically with touch screens."
Are those wireless iGloves from Apple at $150 a pair? First people were holding iPhones wrong now they're touching them wrong?

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So Apple can sell us I-gloves by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 04:11 · Score: 0

only $299
Lizzard People by PPH · 2016-09-17 04:37 · Score: 0

... don't have fingerprints. So the incoming Clinton administration is going to have to switch to Samsung.

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touching devices hurts my skin by Maxo-Texas · 2016-09-17 05:03 · Score: 1

It feels like fire after about 20 minutes of using a device. About all I can do is swipe the phone open.
I have to use a stylus. I've gone thru expensive stylus... wore them out... lost them.. and finally If found an inexpensive stylus at dollar stores they sell 3 for $5. These stylus last a long time. You have to use a finger nail to pinch the rubbery tip back in occasionally to extend the life. Now, I've bought and lost about 12 of them and my house is at saturation. I will lose the ones I'm using but find some that I lost so I haven't had to buy any more.

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Hey, can I swipe your seven? by epine · 2016-09-17 06:06 · Score: 1

Given that you do not seem to have figured out that gloves with silver threads suffice to unlock an iPhone 7 i'd guess that you live all alone on an island in the tropics?
Ah, yes. The once-common glove, now the new Tamagotchi.
Celebrities in Gloves
In our courageous new world, instead of offering to light some starlet's cigarette, the power move is to walk up say, "hey, can I swipe your seven?"
"You, bet, buster. I was waiting for a real man to come along and recognize that not all haute couture comes with a silver lining."
"Not to worry, I'm sure Versace will buff up on Michael Faraday, just as soon as someone in the company (outside the accounting department) finally passes Math 11."
Waterproof Button by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 07:10 · Score: 0

That's the price you pay for a waterproof button.
Now pay the devil you fools.
Re: So? Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 07:58 · Score: 0

Are those wireless iGloves from Apple at $150 a pair? First people were holding iPhones wrong now they're touching them wrong?
BAD TOUCH!
Problematic for EMTs and other First Responders by JimMcc · 2016-09-17 08:08 · Score: 1

As an EMT I always wear gloves on scene. There are numerous apps which are good reference sources which get used on scene. If in fact the new iPhone 7 can't be turned on while wearing gloves, there is a huge number of first responders that most likely won't be upgrading to the new iPhone.
California technology for Californians by nicolaiplum · 2016-09-17 09:47 · Score: 1

More technology designed for use in a temperate location - more Californian technology for Californians.
Outside the bubble of perfect dry weather that California tech companies live in, it rains, it's cold and you have to wear gloves, sometimes it snows and is frosty.
iPhones you can't use with gloves or in rain, Tesla "autopilots" that can't handle snow and rain, Google self-driving cars that only work well on quiet, dry, well-marked roads, and so on and so on.
iPads you not only can't use with gloves, but which you can't use easily with lights behind you, sun at a low angle, or so on - only suitable for rooms with subdued lighting.
Services that assume you have a mobile data connection at all times.
From the rest of the world to California: Get out of your state more and make us things we can use where we live.

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Samsung has solved this problem by Qbertino · 2016-09-17 10:21 · Score: 1

They phones get so warm you don't need gloves.
*Tadum* *Crash* *Thud*
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

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Re:So? Learn to read by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-17 10:42 · Score: 1

Or Apple could take a look at something like the Note 5. Mine works with normal gloves, like my motorcycle gloves that are nothing special, not "special silver thread" imbued. Just a good screen design.

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Re:So? Learn to read by phayes · 2016-09-17 11:25 · Score: 1

Yeah! That way they would sell just (only) as many iphones as Samsung sold Note 5s! After all what company wouldn't want to see their sales tank...

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Officer let me explain by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 15:02 · Score: 0

Officer will you let me explain what happened. I had to sew human flesh to my gloves because I couldn't unlock my phone without taking of my gloves.
HTC 10 went back to a physical button by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-17 15:27 · Score: 0

Meanwhile, newer Android phones are going *back* to the physical buttons because they work better. I'm betting that the lack of a physical button on the iPhone 7 will be a short-lived fad.
Re:So? Learn to read by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-18 09:55 · Score: 1

Hey, having a screen that works great with standard gloves is really a nice thing. No need to have special gloves on at all. But then, I don't worship at the altar of the Shiny Fruit, so...

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Re:So? Learn to read by phayes · 2016-09-19 10:10 · Score: 1

Oh that's ok, choosing to cheap out on an inferior insecure product because you can't stand to expose your fingers for a few seconds is a valid option for all Inuits.

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Re:So? Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-20 12:44 · Score: 0

A few seconds? What do you use your smartphone for that only requires a few seconds of screen contact? I guess if you were just using it as a phone, that would be fine, but then why buy a smartphone?
If you are frequently using your phone when it is cold, you'd be taking your gloves off and putting them on again a lot. Which at the very least would be quite annoying.
And its a twisted logic than considers a product with superior hardware to be an inferior product. (The software it runs more a matter of personal preference than anything else)