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Senators Accuse Russia Of Disrupting US Election (washingtonpost.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes The Washington Post: Two senior Democratic lawmakers with access to classified intelligence on Thursday accused Russia of "making a serious and concerted effort to influence the U.S. election," a charge that appeared aimed at putting pressure on the Obama administration to confront Moscow... "At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes," the statement said. "We believe that orders for the Russian intelligence agencies to conduct such actions could come only from very senior levels of the Russian government..."

White House officials have repeatedly insisted that they are awaiting the outcome of a formal FBI investigation, even though U.S. intelligence are said to have concluded with "high confidence" that Russia was responsible for the DNC breach and other attacks. The White House hesitation has become a source of frustration to critics, including senior members of Congress.

Meanwhile, U.S. intelligence officials are reportedly investigating whether Donald Trump's foreign policy adviser "opened up private communications with senior Russian officials -- including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president."

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  1. oh, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As if the US never tries to influence elections in many many countries. Oh, wait .. they don't matter. They are not the US.

    1. Re:oh, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why does everyone keep saying Russia works with Trump? I have yet to see anything along those lines other than a couple of comments from Trump about Putin.

      However...
      Russia bribed Clinton while she was Secretary of State. I think there is more evidence of Russia supporting Clinton than Trump, in ways that should have her in jail.

    2. Re: oh, yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that, but we KNOW - thanks to these hacks - that the DNC was attempting to (and arguably succeeded in) subverting the will of the people.

      Basically, they're not mad that people can subvert US elections (if they were, they'd be supporting Voter ID laws), they're mad that THEY got caught subverting the democratic process, and are now trying to deflect attention to Russia to avoid having to answer to their own crimes.

      If anything, Russia has provided a service to the US in strengthening our democratic process.

    3. Re:oh, yes by KeensMustard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why does everyone keep saying Russia works with Trump? I have yet to see anything along those lines other than a couple of comments from Trump about Putin.

      I suspect the payment of 12.7M by Russia to Trumps Campaign Manager Paul Manaforte and the subsequent removal of the arming of the Ukraine from the RNC platform might have something to do with it.

  2. What's wrong with this? by Bruce66423 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Meanwhile, U.S. intelligence officials are reportedly investigating whether Donald Trump's foreign policy adviser "opened up private communications with senior Russian officials -- including talks about the possible lifting of economic sanctions if the Republican nominee becomes president."

    WTF? There's no reason for the 'intelligence officials' to get involved with this, it's perfectly legal behaviour for a candidate. That it is being sprayed about is a measure of desperation of some people to stop Trump. Whilst I have sympathy with their purpose, their behaviour is deeply wrong.

    1. Re:What's wrong with this? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative

      If there is any, and I mean *any*, evidence that Trumps communications to said senior Russian officials came with a "wink and a nod", or indeed anything more specific, then there is every reason for the FBI to get involved....

    2. Re:What's wrong with this? by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The US really hates it when other countries do the exact same thing that the US does all over the world every day. I just wish more people in the US would tell their representatives to stop meddling with the rest of the world, whether it is carpet bombing Afghanistan, drone strikes in Pakistan, coups in the Ukraine, aiding rebels in Syria, destroying Libya, helping the Saudis bomb Yemen, or any of the other non-productive, highly destructive regime-change activities we are involved in every day. It is all about defense contractor profits and keeping the Middle East destabilized. Just expect lots more blowback as this all continues without your input or consent.

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      A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
    3. Re:What's wrong with this? by DaHat · · Score: 4, Informative

      So... because she's no longer SoS... the donations and apparent quid-pro-quos while she was in office don't matter any longer?

      Sorry, plenty of foreign money came in WHILE she was SoS: https://www.washingtonpost.com...

    4. Re:What's wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > So Obama should have been investigated by his own FBI over this?

      A sitting president telling a foreign leader that he will have more political manuevering room after an election is not even remotely like a candidate for president negotiating with a foreign leader against american interests.

      You want comparisons of people who got "a pass?"
      Reagan trying to delay Iran's hostage release to deny Carter the credit.
      Nixon trying to delay the end of the vietnam war to deny LBJ the credit.

      It is completely within the realm of the possible that Trump is conspiring with Putin to fuck over american efforts to defeat ISIS in order to deny credit to the democrats. And if he is doing that, we all deserve to know.

  3. I for one thank them by Crashmarik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they are behind the leaks of the DNC emails that showed Sanders was never going to be allowed to run that's something every registered Democrat had a right to know.

    If they are behind the release of the fact Obama used a pseudonym to email hillary, despite the fact he denied having any knowledge of her private email. That's good to know too.

    Then there is the price list for all the government posts that were handed out.

    At the very least they have done us one hell of a favor.

  4. Senator. Singular. by MacDork · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTFA: "Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Adam B. Schiff"

    Schiff is in the House, not the Senate. Furthermore, where did they get this rock solid information from?

    Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., cited a long history of Russian efforts to influence elections abroad, and said that âoeit shouldnâ(TM)t come as a big shock to peopleâ that Moscow might seek to use cyber capabilities for that purpose.

    Clapper, the guy that lied to congress about intelligence activities.

    I think that says it all.

  5. Re:Looking bad for Hillary now. by Archtech · · Score: 4, Informative

    Er, "Americans turning inward..."? According to The Washington Post two weeks ago, “While Americans savored the last moments of summer this Labor Day weekend, the U.S. military was busy overseas as warplanes conducted strikes in six countries in a flurry of attacks". https://www.washingtonpost.com...

    Many people around the world devoutly wish that Americans would "turn inward" and occupy themselves with their own business, instead of killing foreigners for their own good.

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    I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.