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Pennsylvania's Voting Machines Are Running Windows XP (cbsnews.com)

Slashdot reader rmurph04 writes: As reported by CBS News, the battleground state of Pennsylvania might as well have a target on its back as Election Day nears, the cybersecurity company Carbon Black warned in a new report released Thursday. Across the state, most Pennsylvania counties use particularly high-risk electronic voting machines that leave behind zero paper trails, which could be useful to audit the integrity of votes cast. In addition, many of these machines -- called "direct-recording electronic" machines -- are running on severely outdated operating systems like Windows XP, which has not been patched by Microsoft since 2014.

According to the survey more than one in five registered U.S. voters may stay home on Election Day because of fears about cybersecurity and vote tampering. Respondents believe a U.S. insider threat poses the most risk (28%), followed by Russian hackers (17%) and then the candidates themselves (15%).

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  1. Desktop XP or XP POS by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are they running the POS or embeded that are still getting updates? Just saying XP isn't exactly helpful.

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    1. Re:Desktop XP or XP POS by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      The summary is probably wrong (what else is new). How would they have tested without actually hacking into the machines? This is just one security firm claiming it,, without any proof. Also, Windows XP Standard Embedded is supported until 2019. Nothing to see here except an attention whore making speculations.

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  2. Stay at home, they may try rigging the election by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a dumb thought process. Someone may try rig the election so I'm not going to bother going to vote? Who's brain works like this?

    1. Re:Stay at home, they may try rigging the election by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What a dumb thought process. ... Who's brain works like this?

      The same idiots who gave us a choice between Ms. repulsive and Mr. truly scary.

    2. Re:Stay at home, they may try rigging the election by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who's brain works like this?

      I have no idea who is brain. Pinky's friend?

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    3. Re:Stay at home, they may try rigging the election by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Who's brain works like this?

      I have no idea who is brain.

      No, the OP seems to be questioning whether the brain of "Who" works like this. Unfortunately, we're no closer to knowing who's Who.

    4. Re:Stay at home, they may try rigging the election by hambone142 · · Score: 2

      Try watching George Carlin's video on why he doesn't vote.

      We have no choices. They're both idiots and the American population seems to believe that they can't vote for anyone but a Democrap or a Repugnican.

  3. Used to suck, but not network connected by ArtemaOne · · Score: 2

    Granted, XP sucked SO bad when it launched. It was nearly unusable for the first year, then it just became tolerable to switch from Windows 2000 with SP1. But why the complaint? These are not network connected, so the concerns of the OS are really pointless. If there's a security threat, like open physical ports, then address those. XP isn't some boogey man. Be specific.

    1. Re:Used to suck, but not network connected by ArtemaOne · · Score: 2

      XP sucked really badly at launch. Maybe if you went from Windows 98 or ME to XP, it could have seemed like an upgrade. But if you went from Windows 2000, which was probably the most solid operating system they've ever made, it was a huge let down. Tons of capability lost, despite the fact that it was just a transition from NT5 to NT5.1, much like going from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Pro. The move also screwed with the NTFS making reverting back to Windows 2000 next to impossible without a huge pain in the butt of transferring files back and forth.

  4. Re:XP, or Windows Embedded Standard 2009? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. That's surprising by overshoot · · Score: 2

    I would have figured Win98 or maybe WinME.

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  6. What's the threat model? by Chelloveck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unpatched XP? So what? What's the threat model? Are these things online? I'd be worried about the latest OS running today's patch set online. Are they worried about tampering by election officials? Physical access is access. Again, the latest patches won't help. What threat do they think will be thwarted by current software?

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    1. Re:What's the threat model? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      No we'd be perfectly secure in that case. They would receive an update and reboot on election day, after coming up the touchscreen driver would magically have disappeared and all voting would cease. It's about the best possible outcome.

  7. Not a problem by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    I vote early. If you can't vote early in your state it's because somebody doesn't want you to. Let that thought sink in for a moment.

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  8. Why OS? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Voting machines should be open-source coded in assembly language to run directly on the hardware, and the hardware should be open source - something like a clean-room recreation of a 6502 or Z80. Every gate, every mask, should be verified by hand against the schematics, and every machine code in ROM disassembled by hand and compared against the source listings.

    Nothing in the voting mechanisms should be capable of being hidden, nor should it be so complex that one person can't understand and verify the whole thing in a reasonable time, say 1 year.

    That means no OS, no proprietary hardware or software, nothing but obvious routines running on "metal".

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  9. They sure don't want me to vote in Texas by shanen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's possible I'll get to vote anyway, but they rejected my ballot application the first time with several BS reasons (selected from a long list on the rejection form). Over the last few elections, it has been getting harder and harder to vote, and this latest voter-ID bogosity makes it much more difficult. And stupid.

    The hilarious part is that my vote had already been rendered meaningless by the partisan gerrymandering and double-gerrymandering. My so-called Representative is such a worthless tool that they had to rejigger his district to keep it "safe". They are running out of room in the sacrificial districts where they pack in and waste the Democratic votes. They can't draw the district boundaries house by house! Or can they?

    I sure hope it's worse than that from the dictators' perspective. The so-called Republicans (really former Dixiecrats "betrayed" by LBJ) have been driving Texas to the bottom so hard and making the state so cheap that a lot of damn Yankees have moved south. Maybe they are about to flip the state back to the Dems, even though the polls have trouble tracking and accounting for first-time-in-district voters. No evidence, but "some people are saying", as the Donald says.

    (Also hurts them that Trump is killing the Hispanic vote. This latest insane TwitterWar is NOT the temperament of a potentially great president. If she would have just given him the damn blowjob as payback for maker her a winner, then none of this would have happened!)

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    1. Re:They sure don't want me to vote in Texas by shanen · · Score: 2

      Hate typos. Meant to say "making", not "maker" near the bottom.

      Also thinking I should have mentioned that the tool is question is McCaul. He serves on 4 committees, including "Science, Space and Technology" and has frequently proved he knows NOTHING about science. However, the big laugh is the "Ethics" committee, since one of my degrees included philosophy of the Socratic sort. What a SAD joke, though Trump is the biggest joke to day.

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  10. Hyperbole and Strawmen.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The voting machines are NOT connected to the internet. They are also running EMBEDDED XP not desktop XP. No they can not be infected easily unless someone has physical access... and at that point every OS on the planet is easily cracked wide open if the attacker has their hands on the device.

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  11. Let the viruses romp! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    Pennsylvania will probably find itself electing Ruth From Card Services, or some guy in India who promises to repair your PC.

  12. This is Clinton's problem by tomhath · · Score: 2

    Who's brain works like this?

    Clinton's big problem is voter indifference. People don't like Trump, but they don't like Clinton enough to vote for her.

    Articles like this are intended to nudge tepid Clinton supporters to get out and vote.