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WikiLeaks' Big Tuesday Announcement Will Now Take Place Via Video (thehill.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader SonicSpike writes that media outlets including Fox News were reporting WikiLeaks cancelled a big announcement scheduled for Tuesday and expected to reveal damaging information about Hillary Clinton. But they were all citing a tweet from NBC as their source. "Due to security concerns at the Ecuadorian Embassy, Julian Assange's balcony announcement on Tues has been cancelled," tweeted NBC producer Jesse Rodriguez -- which was apparently taken to mean the announcement had been cancelled altogether.

But six hours ago, citing WikiLeaks, that same producer reported that Assange "will appear via video link" at a Tuesday press conference in Berlin marking the 10th anniversary of WikiLeaks. While it's possible this "appearance" will be different than the originally scheduled "announcement," it also seems very possible that the NBC producer's tweets were just misunderstood.

380 comments

  1. Re: The announcement: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We could only hope

  2. Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This post has no content whatsoever. Maybe if Assange actually reveals something new it might be worth an article, but this seems an article that should have been rejected as content free.

    1. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is going to be a video link ON THE INTERNET, Mr. Coward. Do you not realize the importance of such an achievement?

    2. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      because internet

    3. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      cyber

    4. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta push Trump. Slashdot is owned by Dice.com which has numerous ties to the Trump business empire. Just another in a long line of Clinton hit pieces pushed by slashdot and many other sites.

    5. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      web 2.0

    6. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this Internet thing everybody keeps talking about? Is it some form of decentralized information access? Is everything on this Internet thing true?
      Brought to you by "Just say no to Monica's ex-boyfriends wife in 2016"

    7. Re:Why is this here? by quantaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gotta push Trump. Slashdot is owned by Dice.com which has numerous ties to the Trump business empire. Just another in a long line of Clinton hit pieces pushed by slashdot and many other sites.

      Any evidence for this? I've noticed /. has had a weirdly pro-Trump anti-Clinton stream of stories but I assumed that was due to Assange fanboyism and Trump supporters hammering the submission queue.

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    8. Re:Why is this here? by ShaunC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dice sold Slashdot in January. There does seem to be quite a pro-Trump agenda here lately, but that isn't Dice's fault (anymore).

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    9. Re:Why is this here? by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      after vainly pushing anti trump stories for months, recent increase in pro trump tilt in /. summitries is due to editors here wising up to the fact that readers and commenters here are generally pro trump (just look at the moderation points of comments in any trump/clinton/election comments; evidence is definitive ).

    10. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The increase in ads is a testimony to our powerful capitalist overlords !

    11. Re:Why is this here? by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      after vainly pushing anti trump stories for months, recent increase in pro trump tilt in /. summitries is due to editors here wising up to the fact that readers and commenters here are generally pro trump (just look at the moderation points of comments in any trump/clinton/election comments; evidence is definitive ).

      One would hope it's due to US I.T. workers fear of globalization/outsourcing. I find it hard to believe /.'s readership, even in this day and age, could support someone who willfully ignores scientific fact as readily as Trump. As an example, when it comes to renewable energy, Trump pretty much talks right out of his ass.

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    12. Re:Why is this here? by Microlith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep. Who knew a supposedly smart techie readership could be taken in by a con man like Trump?

    13. Re:Why is this here? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Dice doesn't own /. any longer, Mr Van Winkle.

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    14. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't use the words "Clinton" and "hit" in the same sentence. It makes me nervous.

    15. Re:Why is this here? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "HIllary's husband cheated on her, so I'm voting for Trump"?

      Oh yes, THAT makes PERFECT sense. *eyeroll*

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    16. Re:Why is this here? by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      Yeah, well, at least he's not a "doctor" in favor of homeopathy. He's not a scientist or even remotely educated in such areas. He can hire people for that. But the Greens are hilariously backing someone who is theoretically trained as a scientist, and who is clearly a loon. Although ... I'll bet she can name a single head of state from another country, unlike the libertarian candidate.

      The Trump support you see here is really Clinton loathing. Or, it's people who don't really care how nice the next president is, but they do care about the composition of the Supreme Court, and don't want the sort of nonsense that Clinton would push there. That's all that really matters, this time around. A court that gets at least a couple more justices who support the constitution's protections. Trump won't be perfect that way, but we've already seen the list of judges he'd choose from - and they are wildly preferable to anything Clinton would do. No, I'm not worried that Roe v Wade is in danger.

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    17. Re:Why is this here? by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      They're not. They're refusing to be taken in (again, and again and again) by the con team of Bill and Hillary Clinton. And they don't want her naming replacements to the Supreme Court, or making things like our immigration, over-regulation, and tax problems even worse.

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    18. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hold on now! Was the libertarian asked to just name any head of state? I thought he was asked to name his favorite. Those are entirely different questions.

    19. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump says a joke about wishing Hillary would die, that's proof he can't be President.

      Hillary's campaign manager goes on a talk show and literally and seriously demands the assassination of Julian Assange. This is considered acceptable.

      Fuck you, that's why.

    20. Re:Why is this here? by disccomp · · Score: 2

      As opposed to who Trump would name to the Supreme Court. Sorry, that is one of the things that worries me the most about Trump being elected, that the court will swing too far to the right. At least I believe Hillary would pick moderates and maintain the status quo in most respects.

    21. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She victim shamed a rape accuser, thats different.

    22. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Trumps actual judicial nominees would be too moderate for you?

    23. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "HIllary's husband cheated on her, so I'm voting for Trump"?

      Oh yes, THAT makes PERFECT sense. *eyeroll*

      Even if as is now being hilariously alleged, she cheated on HIM, SO?!?

      This salacious gossip is a new low for a campaign that set records for new lows. WHO CARES? Unless YOU are either Hillary Clinton or Bill, whether either cheated on the other and with whom is of no concern of yours. YOU'RE not screwing either of them are you? Then why would it be any of your or anyone else's business for that matter?

      Seemingly, their marriage works for them. The internals are basic irrelevant. I don't care if they screw others, as long as their doing so doesn't endanger America by putting one or both in a position potentially to be BLACKMAILED, but since we already know a lot of it, seems to me it would be hard for anyone to blackmail either of them. What would you threaten them with? "If you don't lift the trade sanctions, we're going to tell everyone about Bill and Monica Lewinsky!"

      "Go ahead. Tell them. They already know, dumbasses."

      The weird thing is that Ass-ange seems to have such a hard-on for Clinton. Does he really think Trump would be BETTER? Maybe he thinks there are other options, but unless Trump and Clinton both quit the race before election day, one or the other WILL end up this country's next President. Sorry it's gotta be that way, but that's the way it's gotta be, because that's the way it IS.

      If you don't like the way it is, perhaps you should consider supporting a constitutional amendment to get money and its corrupting influence out of American politics forever, because that is, to a large extent, how we got here in the first place.

    24. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember a few years ago when it was all the rage to sell your low ID slashdot account on Ebay, and everyone was like "why would anyone buy that?"

      Well now you know.

    25. Re:Why is this here? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      consider supporting a constitutional amendment to get money and its corrupting influence out of American politics forever

      Would be nice, but sounds a lot like asking the foxes nicely if you can have the henhouse back.

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    26. Re:Why is this here? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I find it hard to believe /.'s readership, even in this day and age, could support someone who willfully ignores scientific fact as readily as Trump

      Ahem. Climate. This place is full of deniers. They think they're different to creationists, of course.

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    27. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      readers and commenters here are generally pro trump

      Comment sections here are like those now all across the internet.

      People are fed up with the Status Quo. With the economy, with outsourcing, with banks, with politicians, with the media, everything. They're mad as hell. Whether it's Bernie Sanders, or Trump, or Brexit, people don't care. They are pissed off and aren't whistling to the usual tunes anymore. Some go Trump, some grumble about Clinton, some cast their hands in the air, some propose more radical steps, many tune out altogether.

      I don't have any other explanation for what is happening now except to quote an old Yeat's poem, "The Second Coming"


              Turning and turning in the widening gyre
              The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
              Are full of passionate intensity.

      We are in a widening gyre, and things are falling apart. I don't know, fully, why we're here. No --- I do know why we are here, but I don't know how it got to be so bad. I don't know why things were let get to this stage, but I do know that almost nothing can be done about it now. There is no-one, no thing left which people trust anymore, trust to stop all this. The best lack conviction, the worst full of passionate intensity. The gyre is widening. The centre cannot hold.


              And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
              Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    28. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      IoT

    29. Re:Why is this here? by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What has Robby Mook said about Assange?

      I assume you actually mean Bob Beckel. Not only is he not Clinton's campaign manager, Snopes can't find any evidence that he's ever even worked as a Clinton strategist in any capacity. Maybe if you dig hard enough you might find some sort of "three degrees of separation" thing to damn her with, though, so you should probably get started.

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    30. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's exactly what I think when I hear CNN. The Clinton News Network.

    31. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're both biased as hell, just in the opposite ends of the political spectrum. Their bias is not mutually exclusive.

    32. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apps

    33. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My understanding is that it is not supposed to make you vote for anyone. It is supposed to show the shallow hypocrisy of Clinton's attacks on Trump's supposed mistreatment of women. Hillary headed up the bimbo eruption attack team and was responsible for attacking the women bill supposedly molested whether they wanted it or not.

      So which is worse? Calling a fat girl ms piggy or venomous attacks on rape victims and other women? Its like the pot calling the kettle black while pretending to be better or something. I suppose it is what happens when you throw rocks in glass houses. Except you think someone just opened the windows instead of noticing that they are broken.

    34. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hillary's husband cheated on her, and she continued to support him - to the detriment of his victims - for political gain. Ftfy

    35. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would tend to agree with you, I don't really care where people stick their genitals. But when it comes to the president, don't you think that is a job where character and trust are important? If someone would lie to and cheat on the person they are supposed to be fighting to protect from pain (their spouse), why shouldn't I expect them to lie to me?

    36. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He didn't even cheat on her. Hillary is a lesbian that keeps her lover at arms length (Huma Abedin). Her sleeping with women in college has been proven many times.

      Hillary could care less who Bill sleeps with, she just doesn't want to be embarrassed by it, as them pretending to have a healthy marriage is important to her political career.

    37. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh typical. While not perfect they are by FAR the most balanced and trusted. Your probably misconstrue the OPINION portion of their shows with actual news. Hannity, O'Reilly and Kelly are opinion/entertainment.

      When you watch other channels you get opinion mixed in with news and THAT is the deception you are oblivious to.

    38. Re:Why is this here? by dmbasso · · Score: 1

      The Constitution allows for the states to call a convention proposing an amendment, completely bypassing the Federal Congress.
      Five states have already passed bills calling for the convention, 29 more states are needed:

      http://www.wolf-pac.com/the_pl...

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    39. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is exactly right. It seems like the left is now moderate and the right is too far right.

    40. Re:Why is this here? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      If you were married to a Reptilian with cankles, I bet you'd be straying off the path every now and then, too... ;)

    41. Re:Why is this here? by William+Baric · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm Canadian. Apart from Canadian and US media, I also regularly read news from Le Monde and Le Figaro, Al Jazeera, Russia Today and China Daily. My conclusion? All media are doing an enormous amount of propaganda. You may prefer left-wing propaganda over right-wing propaganda, you may prefer pro-establishment propaganda over anti-establishment propaganda, but it is propaganda nonetheless.

    42. Re:Why is this here? by ravenshrike · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hillary's husband regularly cheats on her and allegedly raped some women, Hillary's response has been to stand by him and while he was POTUS savagely attack his accusers.

    43. Re: Why is this here? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Both are biased, but only one has gone to court to argue that they are not required to tell the truth (and won) in things that they present as news.

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    44. Re:Why is this here? by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Regarding Snopes, I now only trust them for debunking trivial, stupid internet meme type things, and not at all when it comes to politics (or much of anything serious for that matter). They are extremely biased in favor of Clinton and "debunk" things without any actual proof or showing contradictory evidence whatsoever. It is totally meaningless that Snopes can't happen to find evidence portraying Clinton negatively.

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    45. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's exactly what I think when I hear CNN. The Clinton News Network.

      The Clinton News Network in the sense: "Everyday, we remind you that people accuse Hillary Clinton of being a horrible criminal doing horrible crimes. We will conclude the daily report on Clinton's alleged horrible crimes by reminding you that nothing has been proven, but will report on the same allegations tomorrow just in case something gets proven by then. And the day after that."

    46. Re:Why is this here? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Snopes and other fact checkers are repeatedly saying things you disagree with and don't like, you may want to consider that the problem is on your end. Rather than bash Snopes maybe you can supply what you think is relevant evidence. Do you either have any evidence that Robby Mook said anything of the sort, or have any evidence that Bock Becket worked for Hillary's campaign?

    47. Re:Why is this here? by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      I haven't noticed a pro-Trump stance from Slashdot stories (and commentors). However I have definitely noticed a very strong anti-Hillary tone here at Slashdot, which at first was very surprising. However, I think that stems from the fact that the typical Slashdotter better understands the ramifications and details of the whole email server thing than the general populace. Most of the strong political opinions I'm seeing here are in that regard, and seem to originate from the private email server.

      So any pro-Trump leaning is really anti-Hillary. Which is pretty much how this election is working out in general - who hates which candidate the least.

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    48. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if what you say is true, the manager isn't running for president. Stay relevant.

    49. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Corruption" = "when a legislator votes in a way I disagree with and/or finds people who agree with him/her to help fund re-election"

      Would you like some Bengay for your butthurt?

    50. Re:Why is this here? by HBI · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We also must take into account that the payouts to Clinton's "bimbo" "accusers" amount in the millions at this point. Certainly justifies some quotes around the words used to describe them, and also qualifies the "alleged" nature of the offenses. People don't usually pay out large sums on BS charges.

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    51. Re:Why is this here? by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "HIllary's husband cheated on her, so I'm voting for Trump"?

      Oh yes, THAT makes PERFECT sense. *eyeroll*

      It's not about his sleaziness, per se. It's about her full-throated support of it, even when he was violating sexual harassment laws and allegedly raping. Her willingness to use your tax dollars to pay her staff to go after the women her husband was abusing and to publicly smear their reputations ... THAT is what's on the table here. Her remarkable hypocrisy, and the direct, repeated evidence that her entire pandering stance on "women's issues" is nothing but phony theater and another sign of her willingness to lie, over and over again on topics huge and trivial, in her quest for power and the circumstances to further enable her family to rake in millions while at the public trough. Her dismissal (and much worse) of multiple women's very consistent reporting of Bill's behavior and abuse is a key indicator of her sociopathy. THAT is why it impacts people's thoughts about voting for her.

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    52. Re:Why is this here? by quantaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I haven't noticed a pro-Trump stance from Slashdot stories (and commentors). However I have definitely noticed a very strong anti-Hillary tone here at Slashdot, which at first was very surprising. However, I think that stems from the fact that the typical Slashdotter better understands the ramifications and details of the whole email server thing than the general populace. Most of the strong political opinions I'm seeing here are in that regard, and seem to originate from the private email server.

      So any pro-Trump leaning is really anti-Hillary. Which is pretty much how this election is working out in general - who hates which candidate the least.

      Possibly, though I think the better explanation might have to do with Hillary's self-identification as a feminist. Just read any post regarding feminism and see all the people railing against "SJWs". I think gender is still very relevant for a lot of people.

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    53. Re:Why is this here? by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      Some lizard people are pretty hot. The Clintons, though, they seem completely resistant to being influenced by their skin. I mean, Bill gave in to his skin there for a while, but I think Hillary managed to bliss him back into rejecting the influence of his human suit.

      Really, the only thing the current Lizard Queen has going for her is her bliss. I mean, good grief. At least she stopped in for repairs to her human suit back in August after she spat out that green chunk of her lizard skin.

      Still grosses me out just thinking about it. *shivers*

      Oh, and John May lives!

    54. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything that isn't pro-Hillary is pro-Trump to small minded people.

    55. Re:Why is this here? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Dice sold Slashdot in January. There does seem to be quite a pro-Trump agenda here lately, but that isn't Dice's fault (anymore).

      I wonder if that could be because of the tech bias in the reporting. Trump is a racing lunatic but there's no hidden email server, classified documents, he hasn't been hacked and for the most part we don't even know if he can use a computer. Is it such a surprise that all things Hilary get more if a mention here given that most of her dramas somehow involve tech, or tech industries outer people using tech against her?

    56. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... to damn her with

      She's is already damned. We just need to figure out how to get her to her final resting place.

    57. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their "balance" has been discredited repeatedly. Any trust they hold is misplaced, and anyone granting such trust is a moron.

      If your claim is that a bunch of moronic crybaby boomer blowhards trust Fox, then I am not actually arguing against you. That is 100% correct.

    58. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? CNN employs former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. That's hardly what a Clinton mouthpiece would do.

    59. Re: Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      Boy. In any other context, you'd probably be railing about 'defining rape down to the point of meaninglessness'. But if it's a Clinton...

      The primary 'victims' of Hillary's supposed 'blaming the victim' were Gennifer Flowers, who conducted a consensual sexual relationship and then sold her story to the tabloids. And Monica Lewinsky, who basically flirted with a married man, fell in love, and they cried on the shoulder of Linda Tripp, who betrayed her royally. That Hillary chose to defend her husband rather than stand in feminist solidarity with these 'victims', is pretty understandable - in the light of the forces trying to undermine Bill, and yes, in the light of both of their ambitions.

      Perhaps in another place or time, sexual infidelity would be a disqualifier. A pretty hypocritical one, but nontheless... But Trump? Really?

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    60. Re:Why is this here? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Is everything on this Internet thing true?

      Yes, there are very stringent rules on who is and is not allowed a website in order to make it credible.

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    61. Re: Why is this here? by MattBroudy · · Score: 1

      Democrats and Republicans are like visable light, and the rest of the political spectrum is like invisible light. You have been duped into seeing them at opposite ends of the spectrum, when in fact they are quite close.

    62. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow that's a real "Man in the high castle" revision of history you got there, ever try writing fiction for a living?

    63. Re:Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      Judging from your signature, the only constitutional protection you're worried about is your right to shoot birds - which, by the way, nobody is advocating for taking away, no matter how much you whine that they are.

      Well, the constitution covers a few other areas that Slashdotters might just care about. Like the preference of one-person-one-vote democracy over an interpretation of freedom of speech that considers The American Enterprise Institute as a charitable organization. And of course, while the SC doesn't design intellectual property law, it does get to be the referee of last resort in related disputes. So it's not out of the question to imagine the likes of Antonin Scalia weighing in on the patentability of API's, etc...

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    64. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Logic! Now what to do if DT weighs the same as a duck?

    65. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, how about....Hillary defended a pedophile that raped a twelve year old into a coma for five days and then laughed about it?

    66. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about those of us that just read the AP news wire?

    67. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Information superhighway

    68. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And only one has staff working for them who have called for the annihilation of Israel, and were promoted instead of fired. (Yes, they used the term "annihilation")

    69. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Yes, fact checkers never lie, never have an agenda, and never get paid for their charitable volunteer work.

      Fuck off, shill.

    70. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweet victim shame! As a rapist, I approve. Just makes my life easier.

      But, yeah, no, Trump bad etc etc.

    71. Re:Why is this here? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      As opposed to who Trump would name to the Supreme Court.

      What don't you like about his picks? Serious question.

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    72. Re:Why is this here? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      /sarcasm What!? Faux News spews propaganda? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you ! It is such as a bastion of objective, well researched topics !

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    73. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It makes perfect sense for a lot of people.

      Bill Clinton has sex with tons of women. In the past, in the present, and in the future. Hillary doesn't care - she only cares about the wealth she's given by remaining in business with him.

      My mother feels incredibly strongly about this - That no woman with any self worth would accept such a deal. It reminds her of her dumb sisters who stayed in abusive relationships where they got beaten and cheated on for years.

      Is that something she wants to be reminded of every time the next president comes on TV?

    74. Re:Why is this here? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Weird/sad thing is the dearth of positive articles for either candidate.

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    75. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd expect a pro-Trump poster to be semi-literate - at best - and you never fail to revel in your illiteracy.

      Try getting yourself a keyboard that can enter capital letters - you'd look less like a retard.

    76. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In years to come, this comment will cease to be funny. Ask anyone in China.

    77. Re:Why is this here? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      I don't trust Snopes to debunk anything, but it's not for any political reason whatsoever. They have an article about Marilyn Monroe having six toes. To be clear, I think the whole idea is silly and I don't think (or particularly care whether) she did. However, they quote as evidence:

      There is no record of Marilyn's having had an operation at that point in her life, and no contemporary references to anyone's noticing her walking with a bandaged foot or a limp for a period of time. (One doesn't simply get up and start trotting around after having a toe removed — the missing digit affects one's balance, and it takes some time to adjust to the change and "relearn" how to walk.)

      My wife is a podiatrist. I asked her about this reasoning and she said it's BS. She amputates toes from time to time as part of her practice and says that patients usually bounce back and are walking perfectly fine in no time, even when she has to remove the big toe. Lopping off an extra little vestigial toe wouldn't have any noticeable effect once the wound healed, and the patient certainly wouldn't have to '"relearn" how to walk'. I wrote to Snopes with that information and got back a response basically blowing me off and arguing that the sixth toe story is a fake and my facts are wrong because "there should be no reason why a person with a painfully infected toe would walk with a limp. But they do.". Yeah, I get that. I never said otherwise. But I do claim that this one piece of evidence is completely wrong, does not accurately contribute to their conclusion (which I agree with), and I have a subject matter expert's testimony to that effect.

      Since then, I've been a bit loathe to trust Snopes about anything. I mean, they're probably right about most things, but I have firsthand experience with them completely ignoring evidence that doesn't fit their narrative. I haven't paid enough attention to their articles to know what their political slant is, but the point is moot for me already anyway.

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    78. Re:Why is this here? by TechnoCore · · Score: 1

      From an outside perspective it does sound like the problem lies on your end. You don't find that reality matches your beliefs, so you just ignore reality.

    79. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the best explanation is the Hostile Media Effect.

    80. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're upset that the spouse of a candidate is a cheater and the the candidate shames the person he cheated with, but you couldn't care less that another candidate repeatedly cheats on this wives and shames everybody?

      That's some amazing cognitive dissonance!

      dom

    81. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not going to get into the fight about the mook or bock, but snopes can no longer be considered a valid source:
      http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

      FYI, my politics: Trump is marginally worse than Clinton, but both are bad, so I am voting Gary Johnson.

    82. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And here's a funny follow-on story ...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennifer_Flowers

      In September 2016, Donald Trump stated on Twitter that he might invite Flowers to the first presidential debate of the 2016 election. This was done after Mark Cuban, with whom he had a feud, had boasted to have a seat in the first row of the debate to "watch Hillary Clinton overwhelm Trump". Flowers later tweeted that she accepted the invitation,[20] after which the Trump campaign denied she had been offically invited to the debate event.[21]

    83. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I think that the trick part of the question was that they had to be currently living. Totally unfair question. Nobody can keep up to that extent.

    84. Re: Why is this here? by porksauce · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do you have any citation for that? The only one I found was on Snopes where they're saying it's False.

    85. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why isnt this a live event? Asks the sniper with a check from hillary in his pocket

    86. Re: Why is this here? by LDAPMAN · · Score: 2

      Why just cherry pick two from the long list? You convent ignore the multiple accusers who claim it was not consensual. For example, Juanita Broderick

    87. Re:Why is this here? by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      Here's an example:
      http://www.snopes.com/seth-con...

      It is an open investigation, and Snopes provides no evidence that the claim is false. There is no way Snopes can say that "DNC staffer Seth Rich was gunned down to prevent him from meeting with the FBI over plans to testify against Hillary Clinton." is FALSE. In fact, they don't have the ability to form an opinion one way or another. If you read the entire "debunking" you'll see they just talk about stuff and offer opinions, but no facts whatsoever. That was really one of the first things that turned me off to Snopes.

      Finally, regarding the "problem" being on my end, I'm not the one making claims that I should be trusted and the authority on whether or not statements are true or not. What I see is Snopes making black and white judgements without any backing evidence at all in some cases. Snopes is the one with a burden to bear, not me. Nice try trying to make this about me though.

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    88. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact check required

    89. Re: Why is this here? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

      Ah, I love political topics. In no other area on Slashdot do ACs get upmodded for saying things like "Fuck off, shill." To be clear: no one is claiming that agendas don't exist. But if one has repeatedly the same reactions to multiple respected fact-checkers, the problem may not be on the fact checker's side.

    90. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And wikileaks is the only media organisation with a 100% accurate record.

    91. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's turn this around, shall we? Let's say there was a guy, who was very qualified, but happened to be married to a woman that has cheated on him in the past, but they've kept their marriage going for decades and he defended his wife when the rest of the world was against them.

      Um, yea, sounds fine in that case. Perhaps you're just sexist?

    92. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those people became relevant in the sexual harassment suit against Bill, where his lawyers managed to convince them to define sex to exclude the things he did to Monica with a cigar, such that he could claim not to have sex with his subordinates. He then flat-out lied to the public, where legal definitions were not in play. His conduct was considered unbecoming even for a lawyer and he was punished for misleading the court.

      You know, to deny the true allegations of sexual harassment. Hillary, of course, decided to shame them all as bimbos--you can go Google her "bimbo eruption" comments and such. But maybe you don't remember that because they settled a lot of things to keep the sexual harassment suits quiet.

      The fact that talk about slut shaming is a matter of convenience is not lost on anyone.

    93. Re: Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      I picked them because they're the ones where Hillary's supposedly on the record for slut-shaming them. And that was the topic I was responding to.

      They're also the only two where the accusations were borne out by, y'know, evidence.

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    94. Re:Why is this here? by disccomp · · Score: 1

      His first list of picks were way to the right, stock full of anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage zealots; and worse, politicians.

      His new list seems like it was meant to appeal more to the center, this time including minorities. However, I wouldn't be surprised to later find he had no intention of really choosing any of these.

      http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/...

    95. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure about that Mook guy, but Clinton herself suggested droning Assange.

    96. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to fact check yourself.

    97. Re:Why is this here? by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Wow, it's like your brain edits out the terms 'allegedly raped' and 'savagely attacked his accusers'. Hell, she used govt. resources to do so.

    98. Re:Why is this here? by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Possibly, though I think the better explanation might have to do with Hillary's self-identification as a feminist.Just read any post regarding feminism and see all the people railing against "SJWs". I think gender is still very relevant for a lot of people.

      I'm sure plenty of sexists use anti-SJW criticism as cover, but this is some damn twisted logic you've got going on there.

      The person who brings up gender by:

      * Explicitly calling herself a feminist (as you yourself just mentioned)
      * Campaigning for feminist causes
      * Having her people engage in those "Bernie Bros" attack
      * Treating every single negative thing Trump has ever said about specific women as evidence that he believes they are an inferior sex

      is demonstrating that gender is, in fact, "relevant" to her.

      The people who are reacting to it... are the ones reacting to it. Some rightly, some wrongly.

    99. Re:Why is this here? by Rei · · Score: 0

      Right. Based on a report from "True Pundit", which has about the reputability of a geocities page.

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    100. Re:Why is this here? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Hey now. That's not fair. Some content on geocities pages were true ! *

      *Possibly only by accident but still.

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    101. Re:Why is this here? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Has anybody ever considered that the 'cheating' could have been consensual ? Polyamory and similar arangements have been around long before they had a name... and if you were a high profile politician who chose such a relationship structure you sure as hell would keep it quiet. Getting caught in another relationship it would actually be LESS damaging to pretend you were cheating than to say "Hey my wife knew and my girlfriend and her boyfriend are best friends". That this is true is an indictment of the repressive nature of American culture, not of the Clintons. The same culture where one polyamorous man has had the parents of his departed former wife repeatedly have DCS try to take his kids away on the grounds that having a more than one adult in the household in "parent-like" roles is somehow abusive...

      Of course - I have no evidence that the Clintons had any form of consensual non-monogamy agreement, but it is actually MORE likely than some of the things Trump supporters say about those events.

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    102. Re:Why is this here? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately - no amendment has *ever* been passed in this manner. Many have been tried, it's never worked.

      The option exists, but if it actually happened it would be the first one in history. The simple truth is that amendments via congress are the only kind that's ever actually succeeded.

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    103. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No amendment has been passed because Congress felt the pressure and acted before the conventions. But you must put the pressure, and calling for a convention is the way. It helps to know your history.

    104. Re:Why is this here? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I've been looking at Snopes from time to time lately, and they seem to be debunking lots of anti-Clinton and lots of anti-Trump claims. They appear to be holding to the same standard of evidence (not perfect, but good) for their political analyses, and they do give sources. It seems to me that they're being fairly neutral in what they publish, although there may be biases in what they publish.

      In other words, it looks to me like you may be the one out of touch with reality due to bias.

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    105. Re:Why is this here? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Trump allegedly raped a 13-year-old. There's a lawsuit going on now, which suggests that there's some evidence that it happened. Should we be paying attention to rape allegations without good evidence?

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    106. Re:Why is this here? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      What harassment laws did Bill violate? He didn't violate any that I could tell with Paula Jones. Clearly, he's a jerk, but I suspect he knows where the line is. "Allegedly raping"? Should we be paying attention to you with your alleged rapes (I just alleged them)? I'm reluctant to pay attention to alleged crimes, like the allegation (currently in court) that Trump raped a 13-year-old.

      As far as "women's issues" go, there's no reason to think that, because she was angry at a few women, she doesn't legitimately work for women's issues.

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    107. Re:Why is this here? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It's a very reasonable conjecture that Trump would be much less careful than Clinton was if he were to hold office. He just hasn't had the opportunity.

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    108. Re:Why is this here? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Oh I'm sure he'd be much less careful. I don't think Clinton did anything by accident. If this was Trump we're talking about they'd be finding emails behind his couch cushions while he'd be claiming it's someone else's couch.

    109. Re:Why is this here? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      The Donald and his jokes... Haha. Idiot.

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    110. Re:Why is this here? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      The only problem with the Snopes piece is that you insist on negative proof where it's not possible, and cannot accept "There is no evidence to show that..." and let it go at that, like a normal, sane person might.

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    111. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the same Juanita Broderick who was cheating on her then-husband with her next one, right?

    112. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor widdle Monica, who was caught on the record boasting that she'd be packing her Presidential kneepads when she left for that intern position in DC... Honest to God, some people have no memory whatsoever.

    113. Re:Why is this here? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      What is your opinion on the BBC? I have been using it as my news source for a while as it is neutral to US politics, which can't be said of any US news outlet.

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    114. Re:Why is this here? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I looked at that site, and didn't see the answer obviously stated. What 5 states?

      I am honestly curious to see the political leaning of the states that have passed the bills for this, as it will say much about their positions.

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  3. Security Concerns by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    The primary security concern is the balcony not being big enough or strong enough to support Julian's ego.

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    1. Re:Security Concerns by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, with Hillary talking about drone strikes on Assange, staying indoors may be the smartest thing to do...

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    2. Re:Security Concerns by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, it's on the internet. It must be true.

    3. Re:Security Concerns by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      The primary security concern is the balcony not being big enough or strong enough to support Julian's ego.

      Of course with a video stream, h.264 compression might have some difficulties handling that as well.

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    4. Re:Security Concerns by Rei · · Score: 1

      Given that Julian already consented once to have the press conference on the balcony, we're entitled to have the press conference on the balcony, and if that means moving him outside while he sleeps, then so be it.

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    5. Re:Security Concerns by Rei · · Score: 2

      What, you don't trust reporting that only traces back to "truepundit.com" and their anonymous "sources"? Come on, next you're going to tell me that I can't lose 10 pounds in two weeks by following this one weird trick.

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    6. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      .. or your sense of denial.

      DNC staffers getting shot in the back in public parks following leaks of DNC emails, and no one steals their wallet.... and no one asks questions.

      And to top it all off, the DNC has the unbridled chutzpah to call it all "conspiracy theory"... after they got busted *conspiring* to keep Sanders out of the race!

      We need to retire the term "consipiracy theory". It doesn't mean what they think it means.

    7. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it shouldn't be that hard. aside from his face, the stream will be almost completely free of information. it should compress really well.

    8. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to Breitbart, troll.

    9. Re:Security Concerns by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought it wasn't big enough for your stupidity....

      Wow, sick burn, dude. I don't think chill (34294) will ever recover from that witty reposte.

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    10. Re:Security Concerns by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      The primary security concern is the balcony not being big enough or strong enough to support Julian's ego.

      They really have nothing to fear. After all, hot air is a lifting gas.

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    11. Re:Security Concerns by dohzer · · Score: 2

      Pfft. Everyone know's ego is a lighter-than-air gas.
      That's why so much hot air keeps escaping from his mouth.
      The real issue is the strength of the tie-down points.

    12. Re:Security Concerns by Alopex · · Score: 1

      The one weird trick: don't eat anything.

      RDA for a semi-active 30 year old 6' tall/200 lb male is ~ 2500 kcal.

      2500 kcal * 14 days / ~3500 kcal/lb = 10 lbs.

      It's on the internet AND it's true!

    13. Re: Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ad hominem = can't formulate a cogent rebuttal

      Go back to your safe space, p****.

    14. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except you won't lose 10lbs because your metabolism will slow to a crawl

    15. Re:Security Concerns by SadButResolved · · Score: 1

      Being predictable, especially with his physical location would be a bad idea for him at this time.

    16. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except you won't lose 10lbs because your metabolism will slow to a crawl

      So then where will the energy for staying semi-active come from?

    17. Re:Security Concerns by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      Assange is dead. The "video announcement" will be a simulation created by the Russians base on their earlier prototype "max headroom"

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    18. Re:Security Concerns by Frank+Burly · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is so much wrong with this post in light of its being modded up. First, as every /.er but you and the moduppers know: believing "sic hoc ergo propter hoc" is a hell of a way to go through life. A DNC staffer was murdered, but there is no reason to believe that he was in a position to know anything about the leaks—let alone that he was murdered because of them. Assange himself has refused to confirm that the murdered staffer was in any way connected to the leaks—and this would be a yuuuuge blockbuster. Given Assange's obvious cherrypicking and anti-Clinton agenda, it is fair to say that there is no "there" there.

      The notion that the DNC conspired to keep Sanders out of the race, or that they were "busted" doing so, is pure BS and not backed up by the emails or voicemails released by Assange. The DNC insiders were not happy about a non-Democrat fringe candidate from a tiny state potentially winning the nomination, but they didn't actually do anything to top him (except that before he or anyone but Clinton was a serious candidate they set the schedule up to benefit Clinton).

      So the AC below is correct: go back to Breitbart, troll.

    19. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Riposte, Ratzo, riposte. Carry on :)

    20. Re:Security Concerns by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The one weird trick: don't eat anything.

      It doesn't work. As soon as you stop eating, your metabolism drops like crazy, in some cases daily calorie requirements have been seen to drop to 800 C/day. Thus you never lose as much as you want to. Really annoying, but also good for me when I was a starving college student.

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    21. Re:Security Concerns by niaxilin · · Score: 1

      The Russians did the shooting. Or is that that wrong "conspiracy theory"?

    22. Re:Security Concerns by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      woosh

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    23. Re: Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "POST hoc ergo propter hoc" - after the thing, therefore because of the thing.
      Ftfy

    24. Re:Security Concerns by clong83 · · Score: 1

      *rolls eyes*
      Hillary currently has the authority to order drone strikes on foreign soil? When did that happen? Did I miss the election or something?

    25. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was nothing stolen? That was officially a robbery was it not? I was under the impression there was no assasination / murder investigation as it was ruled random crime. Which means nothing I suppose.

    26. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A conspiracy is a "meeting of the minds", where two or more people decide on something, and at least one covert action in furtherance of the conspiracy.

      A discussion is not a conspiracy, a single person acting alone is not a conspiracy, and uncoordinated acts are not a conspiracy.

      I heard about plenty of people discussing things they could do to hurt Sanders, but I never heard about any actions in furtherance of said conspiracy. That means the conspiracy is all theoretical at this point, and hence is a "conspiracy theory".

      dom

  4. Similarities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do Hillary and Julian have in common?
    They're both twats.

    Captcha: damned

  5. Re:The announcement: by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    I think I'm the only one that likes this meme.

  6. Re:The announcement: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'm the only one that likes this meme.

    Obviously you're not. ;)

  7. Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by alternative_right · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shot himself 13 times in the back. Hillary Clinton unvailable for comment and does not recall anyway.

    1. Re:Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a long barrel 12mm rifle

    2. Re:Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by geek · · Score: 0

      Shot himself 13 times in the back. Hillary Clinton unvailable for comment and does not recall anyway.

      With a revolver in his non-dominate hand.

    3. Re:Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gun was found in a sewer two blocks away, fingerprints and DNA testing shows that Assange is actually a woman in her late 60s to early 70s. They also found semen at the crime scene.

    4. Re:Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by SadButResolved · · Score: 1

      Oh, you are Deplorable!!!

  8. He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by alternative_right · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People hate authority. Most of them hate it simply because the authority they have experienced has not been just controlling, but also flagrantly stupid. Every public official is incompetent and they all want to tax you into oblivion and regulate minor details of behavior as life-changing events. Assange pushes back against authority. Even better, sometimes he nails really stupid authorities. We are all looking forward to whatever "October Surprise" he can cook up for The Establishment Candidate.

    1. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Informative

      We are all looking forward to whatever "October Surprise" he can cook up for The Establishment Candidate.

      Hillary may be part of the establishment, but Trump is a textbook example of the type of people the establishment works for. Trump supporters are like a bunch of cows who'd rather be herded by a slaughterhouse owner, solely because they've had bad experiences with farmers.

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    2. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No we are not. We're terrified of Trump taking power. If he does, expect the violent racist scum he enables to get away with horrible crimes while he takes this country to shit. And the dumb fucktards who brought this on us celebrate even as they boil in their own short sighted foolishness.

    3. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just remember, the Democrats could have easily avoided this threat by nominating literally ANYONE else other than Hillary. But no, they wanted her in there so bad they cheated their own party to push her in. Potential candidates like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... need not apply.

    4. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Assange pushes back against authority.

      i'm sorry, who's paying for his food and board again?

    5. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Troll

      You're confused. The violent ones are the Sorros-funded pro-immigration groups that attack (white) people walking to and from Trump events. I know, it bothers you that there's video of such things, and endless calls from the left for such violence. But it's there, and your own breathless hatred is a perfect example of exactly how hypocritical progressives are on this subject. Your post is nothing but lazy, vitriolic ad hominem that goes out of its way to notice the hatred and violence that festers on the left, and which is actually applied to people they don't like.

      Horrible crimes? The most condensed, distilled, unending cesspools of horrible crime in this country are found in a handful of cities that have been run - for decades - entirely by liberals at the executive and legislative levels. You want to elect someone who actively promises to do more of what the current administration has been doing for over 7 years to make those problems worse? Why?

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    6. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just remember, the Democrats could have easily avoided this threat by nominating literally ANYONE else other than Hillary.

      Just remember the republicans could have avoided this mess by:
      1) Implementing something other than first pass the post voting.
      2) Consistently having every major candidate call him out on his lies.
      3) Consistently having every major candidate call him out on his racist talking points
      4) Consistently having every major candidate call him out on his lack of real workable plans?
      5) Consistently go after his moral failures.
      6) Having the field thinned much earlier. Donald was winning by being not like the others.

      Cruz was particularly guilty of ignoring everything bad about Donald, because he wanted Donald's voters after Donald imploded. It is not as if the others did that much better, until it was too late..

    7. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      What potential candidate? Duckworth couldn't run for President if she wanted to. Not native born.

      Don't you wish you'd stayed awake during Civics class now, and maybe learned something?

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    8. Re: He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank goodness. The last thing we want is a group of leaders whose nominative isn't literally derived from liberty.

    9. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      It's never a bad time to shill for your political sports team, apparently.

    10. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    11. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duckworth has birthright citizenship since she has an American father. Now read the 3rd sentence of the 2nd paragraph of Natural-born-citizen clause. So while it's not settled, I think it's pretty likely she'd be found eligible, especially given the number of military families with overseas births, whom the government would not want to alienate.

      As you can see, it's important never to stop learning, and in particular don't stop in middle school.

    12. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to elect someone who actively promises to do more of what the current administration has been doing for over 7 years to make those problems worse? Why?

      I'm a damned foreigner who has the lick to not live in the good ol' U. S. of A, but I'd say that a good reason for voting for eight years of the same is that things have gotten slightly (but not that much) better in America during that time while the other candidate promises to engage in an economical policy that will in the short term devastate the purchasing power of low- and middle earners and no one really knows what will happen in the long term because no one has tried to do anything like that in modern times.

      The trade war between USA and China that Trump wants to start is pretty much the definition of "interesting times" from the proverbial curse.

    13. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Is it calling for violence to point that 60 years ago we used to hang the kind of people that support Trump?

      --
      "I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
    14. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Is it calling for violence to point that 60 years ago we used to hang the kind of people that support Trump?

      One would normally think that encouraging lynch mobs was a bad thing, yes.

    15. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get over yourself. Politicians are only slightly more inept than 90 per cent of IT professionals.
      Assange is trying to destroy your way of life.
      Oh, and you should hope for more (progressive) taxation if you want to continue to enjoy a high standard of living in the developed world.

    16. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please describe the ethnic groups involved in all 2016 riots.

    17. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Don't you wish you'd stayed awake during Civics class now, and maybe learned something?

      Funny. If you'd been less obnoxious, you'd look like less of a dick now that's you've been corrected.

      --
      I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
    18. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure what hangings you're referring to? My impression is that the Trump supporters would've been more likely to propagate the hangings.

    19. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do not live in the US how would you know things have gotten better or worse? Europe has adopted the same strategy as the all the ME despots and the Russian leadership by making sure everyone "knows" how bad the US is and how many "bad" things the US have done all in an effort to distract their proles from their less than stellar records in economic and social harmony endeavors. China is an example of engaging in hostile rhetoric that is focused on the US military actions but they shy away from openly disparaging US citizens and US economic interests because their success as a country depends on good economic and trade relations with the US. The US would get by just fine without trade ties with China but the reverse is certainly not true. China's big selling point is cheap labor but there are plenty of other places cheap labor can be fond in the world today and China makes nothing the US cannot find some where else while China's biggest import from the US is food. .

    20. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Ok, around '56 we had stopped hanging them and decided that they were such good anti-Commies that we'd overlook their faults.

      But really, if that 60 years ago remark did not trigger 'denazification' in your head in this context, you're irredeemably stupid.

      --
      "I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
    21. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      This is true. Trump as a president is poison, but with any other candidate than Clinton we'd be talking about a landslide Democrat right now.

    22. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People hate authority.

      People love authority. Authority is basically the only plank in DJT's platform: The US sucks, and I alone can fix it. What few policy details he's willing to put out are variations on strengthening the authority of the state in order to make bad people stop being bad.

      Don't worry, kids: Daddy will take care of your problems!

    23. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an alternative scenario with the same conclusion. I met with another time traveler in a coffee shop the other day. He was a charming fellow and also a temporal mechanics physicist. He told me about his working theory on the Stein's limit and we compared notes about life before the year from hell. N-day, while the date is different in every worldline, is such an unavoidable event that he called it's a Stein's "gate." All worldlines within the Stein's limit must pass through that "gate." This also explains why my divergence measurements have been decreasing since last year.

      The major events remained the same in his worldline. In 2018, there are riots in every major city. These won't just be race riots, however. Expect Zika or another mosquito-borne disease to spread like wildfire due to an especially wet spring. BRICS moving away from the US dollar is another major factor in the riots. The CDC will activate the FEMA concentration camps. Due to the backlash this causes, either Clinton or Trump will declare martial law in 2019 and suspend the 2020 elections. When China invades Alaska for oil, it's downhill from there. In my worldline, N-day happened one dreary February morning after the siege of Denver had turned hopeless.

    24. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by ogdenk · · Score: 2

      You might have a point except for the fact that a large chunk of the Nazi's ideology was inspired by what was going on in the US, they just took it to the next logical and more extreme level.

      Hatred of the Jews? Hitler really enjoyed Henry Ford's "The International Jew" publications as well as other American anti-Semitic literature.

      Treating black folks as sub-human? Yeah, we were great at that. Even when they gained meager rights they were considered 3/5ths of a person.

      Medical Experimentation on "untermenschen", Eugenics work, forced sterilization? Yeah, we did that too and many US scientific papers were published on the subject. We even infected whole communities with syphilis.

      Mistreatment and sterilization of the mentally ill? Check. We just didn't outright euthanize them.

      The only major difference is we didn't gas the untermenschen. We preferred to just hang them from light posts for minor infractions like if they dared whistle at white women. Even their expansion into Russia and killing off the natives was inspired by our conquest of the land and extermination of most native Americans to give ourselves more living space.

      The general public opinion in the US of the Nazis for a long time was that they were "firm but fair". Trump actually would resonate well with 1930's/1940's American voters and it's easy to see why many baby boomers adore his stupid ass.

    25. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Even when they gained meager rights they were considered 3/5ths of a person.

      Umm, no.

      The 3/5 compromise was all about getting Slave States to vote to ratify the Constitution, since otherwise, the low population of the South would leave them basically screwed in the House.

      Without that compromise, we would still be under the Articles of Confederation, or, more likely, split into five or six nations.

      So, effectively, the 3/5 compromise set us up for the Civil War, and freeing the slaves, rather than the alternative, which would have left slavery alive and well....

      --

      "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    26. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's called cutting out the middle man. It'll be very efficient.

    27. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Bartles · · Score: 1

      The Natural Born Citizen Clause is only 1 paragraph containing 1 sentence.

    28. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I think Assange just wants to see the US crash and burn and believes that's more likely to happen if Trump is elected.

    29. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Excellent comment. The only reason anyone is even considering Trump is that Hillary is so objectionable in so many ways. Its incredibly sad that the democrat machine was somehow enticed or forced into committing to her as their only candidate. What should be the easiest cake-walk in history for the democrat presidential race is now a disgusting slog through the worst tactical shit slinging either party can come up with. Neither one of them has a leg to stand on so they keep the air filled with so much feces that the average American is blinded by it.

      I just can't stop thinking "how did we let this happen?" What a fucking mess.

      --
      When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
    30. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black people? Gay people? Non-Christians? Communists? I'm really confused as to what kind of point you're trying to make, as 'we used to lynch you people' is not the best choice of argument.

    31. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally self-sufficient.

      He lives in a hole he dug with his own fingernails and subsists on the bugs he catches (who dine sumptuously in the Embassy's kitchen).

    32. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Hillary may be part of the establishment, but Trump is a textbook example of the type of people the establishment works for.

      Absolutely true, something even Trump admits. But he's the only candidate willing to be politically incorrect, not kowtow to Black Lives Matter, and recognize the threat that Islam is to the West.

    33. Re: He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most condensed, distilled, unending cesspools of horrible crime in this country are found in a handful of cities that have been run - for decades - entirely by liberals at the executive and legislative levels.

      This would be a better argument if you didn't live in a country where crime has been dropping for decades. Yes, Donald Trump may want you to believe they are hellholes, but not really the truth.

      Of course, you would still be lacking in identifying specific local policies and practices that were the cause of any problems, let alone that they had more of an impact than state and federal policies, as you prefer to stick to innuendo and insinuations rather than rational discourse.

      This is because of your own prejudices. You can't get past them, so instead you hysterically insist on a story to justify it.

    34. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Trump supporters will start acting like leftists?

    35. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 3/5 compromise was all about getting Slave States to vote to ratify the Constitution, since otherwise, the low population of the South would leave them basically screwed in the House.

      It actually began in under the Articles of Confederation, when the then government was looking for a way to assess taxes and fund itself, but the South objected to slaves being treated as both property and income, so they wanted something else, however before that could be settled, folks decided to start anew.

      This included a new Congress, which had one House, that was allocated by the people in a state. This was done to represent the people. But wait, wait, the slaves couldn't vote, they couldn't influence it, and that meant they were not represented by it. So why count them? Well, the South insisted they had to be, even though they had just gotten done saying otherwise.

      Without that compromise, we would still be under the Articles of Confederation, or, more likely, split into five or six nations. /p>

      So, effectively, the 3/5 compromise set us up for the Civil War, and freeing the slaves, rather than the alternative, which would have left slavery alive and well....

      Unlikely, slavery was becoming morally repugnant across the world, not just the holding of humans in bondage, but the new aristocracy that came with it, and as far as it goes, the population of the North was rapidly outstripping the South, the election of 1860 merely confirmed what was already certain, that the North had the votes to force a change. I believe it'd have been doable by 1840, but I'd have to check. Ok, technically some of that may have been with the West considering itself separate, but that's a different issue of alignment. Still, it was going to change. Abe Lincoln got elected while openly acknowledging it would be.

      Which naturally, the South could not abide, so even before a proposal was put before them, chose to plunge the country into Civil War. They'd spent the last few decades trying to wrest more power and autonomy for themselves (even unrelated directly to the issue of Slavery), but generally only eking out enough to keep things going, without progressing, while the Northern States were growing substantially.

      Maybe if they'd had to concede it, they'd changed things sooner, or somebody would have pressed them to do so, rather than continual compromises.

      Who knows? Uchronia can merely offer speculations.

  9. Damaging information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How can there possibly be any more damaging information than Hillary Clinton has already put on display herself!

    1. Re:Damaging information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      90% of the world's Heroin supply is from Afghanistan
      CIA runs it out of there into the US, often working with drug cartels
      Banks such as HSBC and UBS launder the money, which is used for black budget projects, mainly financing Islamic terrorist groups
      Hillary Clinton was involved with this as Secretary of State, along with the arming of ISIS and others

    2. Re:Damaging information? by SadButResolved · · Score: 1

      These are all low and Midlevel operatives. Your getting closer though. Think bigger and follow the money.

    3. Re:Damaging information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "follow the money" has become the conspiracy catchphrase like "think of the children" has for conservatives.

  10. Not sure what else there is to reveal by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We already have the email issue, the Clinton Foundation issue, the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary, etc. I can't see anything else left to reveal that would be any more damaging at this point.

    My feeling on both sides is that people should be grown up enough to realize that all politicians aren't "normal people." They have immense power, immense wealth, and are masters at manipulating people to get things they need done. The only reason we didn't hear about their inner circle of dealings in the past is because we didn't used to have every news agency in the country camped out on their doorsteps 24/7 listening to them breathe, or idiotic staffers who can't seem to get their heads around secure email and computer networks. I think we're actually lucky in the US in terms of the level of corruption in our political system..many more countries have it much worse.

    Seriously, anyone who voluntarily goes out seeking political office is not normal, plain and simple. You can't expect them to act like regular people. Corporate executives fall into this category too -- most executives live on another planet compared to us in terms of their daily walk through life. You're just not going to get a regular person as a politician or an executive. Trying to hold them to standards like that just breeds disappointment and discontent.

    1. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The law doesn't matter if you're rich and powerful? We're supposed to hand over the presidency to a corrupt, irresponsible, greedy career politician who's working hard behind the scenes to dick over regular plebs like us all because Trump called someone fat 20 years ago (or whatever the trumped-up (lol) scandal of the moment is)?

      People haven't been accepting this state of affairs for the last 3000 years because they were "grown up enough" to accept it, it was because the powerful had sufficient control over the world to more effectively keep the truth from the public. Thanks to technology this is no longer the case.

      Maybe Trump's an asshole, but I'll take an asshole over someone who's actively working against me.

    2. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We already have the email issue, the Clinton Foundation issue, the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary, etc. I can't see anything else left to reveal that would be any more damaging at this point.

      You might want to think about why they weren't that damaging instead.

      The only reason we didn't hear about their inner circle of dealings in the past is because we didn't used to have every news agency in the country camped out on their doorsteps 24/7 listening to them breathe, or idiotic staffers who can't seem to get their heads around secure email and computer networks

      Teapot Dome. Credit Mobiler. Checkers the Dog.

      Seriously, anyone who voluntarily goes out seeking political office is not normal, plain and simple. You can't expect them to act like regular people. Corporate executives fall into this category too -- most executives live on another planet compared to us in terms of their daily walk through life. You're just not going to get a regular person as a politician or an executive. Trying to hold them to standards like that just breeds disappointment and discontent.

      You have it wrong. Normally people DO act just like that, it's just that most of them are not in a position to seek office, or run a huge corporation.

      But every bit of the psyche? You couldn't find that much of a difference.

    3. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by geek · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hillary could behead a child in times square, suck the eyes out of the skull and dry hump the corpse with cameras rolling and her supporters would blame Trump and the white man. Or the Russians.

      It literally doesn't matter what he releases. We KNOW she's a criminal in every sense of the word. We also know that whatever it is, Obama will just pardon her anyway.

      There are no undecided voters anymore. Everyone knows who they support. The lines are drawn. This release wont change anything.

    4. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe Trump's an asshole, but I'll take an asshole over someone who's actively working against me.

      Don't worry, Trump's both! No need to choose!

    5. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary,

      Burners and Truthers are the same.

    6. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, trump isnt "just an asshole," no matter how much you want to reframe the argument.

    7. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please continue

    8. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      Maybe Trump's an asshole, but I'll take an asshole over someone who's actively working against me.

      Who do you think has to pay the taxes that he didn't? He doesn't only actively work against you, he thinks your stupid, too.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    9. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He used the same tax loopholes as Clinton. It just turns out that taking bribes from Saudi Arabia is more profitable than building casinos and creating jobs.

    10. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And heads of DNC step down because of it and say that is the reason they are doing it. Just in case right?

    11. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true. The only thing that separates the right and the left anyway is the propensity to be distracted by social justice issues and ignore the real threats to the country.

      For example: You will never convince a lefty that racial equality is a smaller issue than say, banking reform. Social justice (in the fanatical sense of the term) is everything to them and all other debates are barely relevant.

      Once you understand this bizarre inability to actually weigh the importance of all issues other than social justice, the left makes perfect (insane) sense.

      They don't see the inherent threats in Big Pharma, Insurance, Banking and constant pandering to the MIC because... Racism, sexism and micro aggressions..

      So... Yay Clinton.

    12. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he really has anything that might seriously matter, why all the theater about the announcement? Why not just publish it already? Isn't that what WikiLeaks is supposed to do?

      This whole brouhaha is about publicizing Assange and, as usual, smearing Clinton by spreading innuendos and hints - without need for the slightest substance to back them up - across as many news cycles as possible. Team Putin's MO.

    13. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Oh, that's easy:

      I shouted out "Who killed the Kennedys?"
      When after all, it was Hil-la-ry

      --
      Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
    14. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Who do you think has to pay the taxes that he didn't?

      Maybe you should ask Senator Clinton who she had expected to pay when she supported even more tax deductions only rich people can get... or ask her Husband who signed many rich-people deductions into law...

      --
      "His name was James Damore."
    15. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Politicians only have the power that their financial backers give them. Hillary is owned by her wealthy campaign donors. When someone or some group donates millions of dollars to a political campaign they expect a return on their investment. These same some ones and groups are the drivers behind making sure any new restrictions on campaign finance laws never see the light of day. If Hillary loses this election there will be a lot of wealthy donors getting nothing for their money. The Republican donors have already seen their money go up in smoke when Trump defeated the candidates they were supporting. A lot of Republican vitriol hurled at Trump is driven by those who lost their money and have nothing to show for it.

    16. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DNC chose a candidate according to their own rules. Which are shitty but they are the rules that more than one person has signed on to.

      But what you guys _always_ forget to mention is that Clinton had a handy lead in ACTUAL VOTES.

      Let's put aside the concept of superdelegates for a moment -- and note that superdelegates are not really unique to the DNC; all GOP delegates are unbound unless the laws of their own states direct that they must vote in line with the electorate, and not all states do.

      Absent superdelegates, if you have a deadlock by the time of the convention, you'd look at the number of people who voted as a way to resolve that. Because what else is there? An unbound vote on the convention floor, which would have been even more unacceptable (look at how the GOP viewed this possibility).

      So if you took the supers out of the equation and looked to the total votes cast, Bernie still wouldn't have won.

      End of story. Bernie is now campaigning with Hillary as a way to secure more of his policies. Only the GOP now care about this until the next election cycle.

    17. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      He used the same tax loopholes as Clinton. It just turns out that taking bribes from Saudi Arabia is more profitable than building casinos and creating jobs.

      Trump creates plenty of jobs... in third-world countries where they produce his clothing line. Of course, "creating jobs" is a red herring. That's tied to the puritan notion that work is holy and if you don't work you should be thrown to the wolves. What we want to be doing is making the world a better place. Trump's businesses don't do that. They shit it up.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    18. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Trump's an asshole, but I'll take an asshole over someone who's actively working against me.

      Congratulations - instead of a kick in the groin you have selected a punch in the head. This time it is a binary choice.

      tl;dr? Different dog, same leg action.

    19. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      - The "email issue" continues to be a nothing to see. At worst they show a slight lack of misjudgements over technical issues.
      - The Clinton Foundation is a highly respected charity, and while some journalists have attempted to find conflicts of interest or misuses of power, thus far every time someone has made what seems to be a serious allegation it's been found to be baseless or just plain silly. It's ironic, the more people talk about it, the better it makes her look.
      - The DNC's behavior in the primaries was seriously bad, and I'm disgusted Clinton rewarded DWS with a job in her campaign, but frankly it's the DNC, not Clinton or her campaign.

      Assange might have something actually damaging, who knows? But thus far, what's been thrown at Clinton has been stupid, seen only as "damaging" if you hate Clinton so much you'd latch onto a spelling mistake as evidence she's unfit for government.

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    20. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she had something to do with RFK Jr's plane crash to take him out of the running for the NY senate seat, that would be the only thing that I think would sink her campaign.

    21. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your cynicism sickens Me.

    22. Re: Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true. The only thing that separates the right and the left anyway is the propensity to be distracted by social justice issues and ignore the real threats to the country.

      Oh no, the right can easily be distracted by "fears of change" and "intrusions on their safe spaces" as well as "The dangerousness of the poor" among others.

      There's a wide gap between the right and the left.

      For example: You will never convince a lefty that racial equality is a smaller issue than say, banking reform.

      You will never convince a righty that banking reform is an issue at all.

      Social justice (in the fanatical sense of the term) is everything to them and all other debates are barely relevant.

      The left has talked about banking reform all the time. The right has blamed the left for all of the ills, and defended the bankers as victims.

      Once you understand this bizarre inability to actually weigh the importance of all issues other than social justice, the left makes perfect (insane) sense.

      Once you understand the right's cognitive dissonance has them utterly unable to consider any issue at all except in terms of aggression and defensiveness, the right...becomes quite obviously insane.

      They don't see the inherent threats in Big Pharma, Insurance, Banking and constant pandering to the MIC because... Racism, sexism and micro aggressions..

      So... Yay Clinton.

      Come again? The left is the only one taking any steps about those at all. Which is not to say the Obama administration, maybe not even the Clinton, but the right, the right still goes on about how the ACA is GOVERNMENT SOCIALISM UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE EVIL, without noticing a thing.

      I wonder, are you as detached from reality as your average right-wing nut job?

    23. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My feeling on both sides is that people should be grown up enough to realize that all politicians aren't "normal people."

      Seriously, anyone who voluntarily goes out seeking political office is not normal, plain and simple. You can't expect them to act like regular people. Corporate executives fall into this category too -- most executives live on another planet compared to us in terms of their daily walk through life. You're just not going to get a regular person as a politician or an executive. Trying to hold them to standards like that just breeds disappointment and discontent.

      I believe the word you are looking for is sociopath .

      And I agree, they are often disappointed and discontent when held to the same standards that we expect to apply to everyone.

    24. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The "email issue" continues to be a nothing to see. At worst they show a slight lack of misjudgements over technical issues.

      Sure, other than the part where she deliberately chose to avoid federal record keeping laws, deleted federal records while under subpoena, and handled highly sensitive data (WAY more than merely "classified") with a recklessness that can and HAS put people in prison many times, even just this year. Lack of judgement? Her poor judgement was in her foolishly thinking she wouldn't get caught. But she did correctly judge that the same administration that has prosecuted other people for FAR less severe violations would protect her from the same consequences. Which is exactly what they've done, repeatedly.

      The Clinton Foundation is a highly respected charity

      Yes, highly respected by the people who give it money in order to buy influence with the Clintons. Highly respected by the family and friends of the Clintons who get fat paychecks, consulting contracts, and perks from the foundation as it spends well over 90% of the money it rakes in on paychecks for those favored employees and on things like travel perks and "administrative" expenses. Less than 6% of the huge pile of cash they take in from foreign dictators and civil rights abusers goes towards any sort of charity activity in any form. But since you're a fan of hers, and are clearly willing to overlook her serial lies and parade of corruption, I can see why you'd consider that arrangement to be "highly respectable." Sure, of course.

      The DNC's behavior in the primaries was seriously bad, and I'm disgusted Clinton rewarded DWS with a job in her campaign, but frankly it's the DNC, not Clinton or her campaign.

      Your attempt to draw a distinction between these two entities is so cute. Darling.

      But thus far, what's been thrown at Clinton has been stupid, seen only as "damaging" if you hate Clinton so much you'd latch onto a spelling mistake as evidence she's unfit for government.

      No. What she's thrown at herself is so damaging that if she didn't have the active protection of the Obama administration she would be, like other people who have done far, far less, already indicted and likely convicted of multiple federal felonies.

      --
      Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
    25. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the AC must be one of those paid trolls I read about http://www.nydailynews.com/new...

    26. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, which sensitive data, exactly? Did you actually read the reports? No question the private email server betrayed extremely poor judgment, but this is just silly. Of the small amount of classified material that ended up there, almost all was classified retrospectively -- at the time it was sent, the material was unclassified. About 100 messages did, but (a) leakage of classified material at this level happens all the time, (b) it was not "WAY more than merely 'classified'", it was low-level nonsense that shouldn't even have been classified in the first place (a discussion about a newspaper article, for example) and that it isn't clear anyone even knew were classified when discussing them because it was such low-level nonsense.

      The email server issue is disturbing in that it is yet another example of Hillary Clinton's feeling that the rules don't apply to her and that she can do things that are a bad idea if they happen to be convenient for her at the time. That's concerning (though much less concerning than most of the sentences uttered by Trump). And, if really sensitive information had ended up there, it would have been really bad. But it doesn't seem to be criminal; pretending it was just obscures the important points.

    27. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      So, which sensitive data, exactly? Did you actually read the reports? No question the private email server betrayed extremely poor judgment, but this is just silly.

      So you're going to pretend that in all of this coverage, for a year and half and counting, you've never mustered the energy to google what "SAP" stands for, or to check into whether what the FBI director said: about how anyone in a key role, like hers, handling classified information, would absolutely have known that they were looking at classified information (satellite imagery of facilities in North Korea? discussion threads about pending drone targets in the Middle East? code named human intelligence operations? - you get this, right?). She was required by law to secure any such information as soon as she saw it, and alert her agency's security personnel about that information's appearance on non-secure platforms or in non-secure places. She actively, knowingly avoided those obligations. And it only takes ONCE for her to be indicted and convicted as a felon merely for showing neglect - intent isn't even required.

      And, if really sensitive information had ended up there, it would have been really bad.

      Really sensitive information DID end up there, and we'll never know how much more of it may have, because once she found out she was under subpoena, she arranged to delete tens of thousands of messages in a way that prevented forensic recovery.

      But it doesn't seem to be criminal; pretending it was just obscures the important points.

      Mere neglect MAKES it criminal, by definition. Pretending the laws don't say that, and that other federal employees aren't in jail or towing around a felony record for single instances exactly that, is the "silly" you're looking for, here.

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    28. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, "creating jobs" is a red herring. That's tied to the puritan notion that work is holy and if you don't work you should be thrown to the wolves.

      No, "creating jobs" is tied to the notion that work is necessary in our society, and if you don't work you will be thrown to the wolves. It would be great if work wasn't a necessity, but it is, and ideals aren't going to put food on the table while waiting for a dramatic change.

      Trump's businesses don't do that. They shit it up.

      Same shit, different team. The one candidate who may have wanted this shift in society was not allowed a chance to run.

    29. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the 6% figure is a lie perpetuated by the right wing media.

    30. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Except that Clinton did not intentionally avoid Federal record keeping laws, deleted a few Federal records by mistake when deleting personal emails (which is legal), and handled classified data in ways that can get people fired and security clearances revoked. (Give me ONE name of a person who did what Clinton did and faced serious criminal prosecution. The most I'm aware of is a misdemeanor charge that was dropped.)

      The job of the DNC is not to be a truly neutral arbiter of who gets nominated. The DNC is a partisan organization that has a vested interest in getting the best nominee possible, and in their judgment that wasn't an avowed Socialist who has been running as an independent for years.

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  11. Re: The announcement: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm for that.

  12. Here's a good question: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    Why is he still in the Ecuadorian Embassy? Didn't the whole investigation get scrapped?

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    1. Re:Here's a good question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the USA still has a contract out on his life. And the British, being good little lap dogs, will collect on it given the chance.

    2. Re:Here's a good question: by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      First, that was two questions...

      Second, it's hard to say which one is the good one

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    3. Re:Here's a good question: by Rei · · Score: 2

      No. Nothing has ever been "scrapped"; every court hearing (and there've been many), both in the UK and Sweden, at all levels (including the Supreme Courts of both countries), has gone against him. What did happen was that the statute of limitations on the lesser charges ran out. The statute of limitations on the rape charge doesn't run out until 2020.

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    4. Re:Here's a good question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact is that the UK has been told they have to not only allow him his freedom, but have to also compensate him for the illegal detention they've put him under.

      The fact is that the UK courts have ruled that they will never accept the trick used to put an (illegal) arrest warrant on Julian again, but won't apply it to Julian (read: political corruption).

      The fact is that Sweden has and can interview him in the embassy, and were dragging their feet (read:political corruption).

      It's hard to think there are people who are still ignorant of the facts, yet posting comments on slashdot. It only leads me to believe one of two things - you're here to smear, or you're genuinely unaware of the truth.

    5. Re:Here's a good question: by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      Or it could just be that Assange is a prima donna.

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    6. Re:Here's a good question: by ScentCone · · Score: 2

      Fascinating! Please provide your citations. And also your explanation as to why the US, with all of it's intelligence agencies and cloak and dagger horsepower, hasn't killed him 20 times by now, if that's what they wanted. What is it - the hyper-powerful android security guards in the Ecuadorian embassy that are thwarting all of those assassination attempts? No? I see. I know ... maybe you're just delusional. Yes, that makes more sense.

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    7. Re:Here's a good question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the US, with all of it's intelligence agencies and cloak and dagger horsepower

      Because US intelligence is (are) a bunch of morons. Lots of neat toys to play with, but not much on doing anything beyond sending in Seal Team Six. Taking out Assange will have to be done deniably to avoid negative world opinion. And they just haven't figured out how to pull that off without losing the odd Apache helicopter.

    8. Re:Here's a good question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it could just be that Assange is a prima donna.

      Nothing says it can't be both.

    9. Re:Here's a good question: by quenda · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why the US, ... hasn't killed him 20 times by now,

      Ask Fidel Castro.

    10. Re:Here's a good question: by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Sometimes you can just let the idiot die of old age, and then rewrite history and paint them in a negative light much much easier. than shooting them.

      Assange hasn't been in the news for a while so suddenly he has lots of new dumps, except the people that might possibly have actual information won't go to him, as they consider him even worse than Hillary.

      The last 4-5 dump of info that wikileaks has shown have been worthless. The US Government has won vs assange they made him irrelevant.

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    11. Re:Here's a good question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the cloak and dagger horsepower is so fucking amazing, how come wikileaks - a simple web site - hasn't been taken down?

      Perhaps because they're not as good as Hollywood and 15 yo youtube bloggers make out?

    12. Re:Here's a good question: by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact is that the UK has been told they have to not only allow him his freedom, but have to also compensate him for the illegal detention they've put him under.

      By a nonbinding body (WGAD) that rules in favour of almost all plaintiffs that come before it (usually unanimously, unlike in this case). Both the UK and Sweden have stated the WGAD ruling will have no bearing on the case at hand. Assange raised it in his most recent appeal with the Swedish courts (yet another in a long row of them). He lost.

      The fact is that Sweden has and can interview him in the embassy, and were dragging their feet (read:political corruption).

      Read: Ecuador is demanding that Sweden sign some sort of treaty - the exact details of which have not been publicly disclosed by either side - before they'll allow the prosecutors in, something that Sweden is against. This has been a stalemate for the past 16 months. Before that, Sweden had been insisting on the interview taking place in Sweden in order to follow the standard Swedish process, which is: 1) the initial investigatory phase is carried out, including any interviews 2) if the prosecutor believes charges to be likely and the subject will not voluntarily enter custody, the prosecutor recommends to a judge that the subject be formally anklagad (suspected of/charged with a crime); 3) the judge issues a warrant and the subject is brought into custody; 4) the subject is interviewed (for a second time, if there were interviews conducted in the initial phase), with every matter they are to be charged with put be put forth to them; 5) the subject is formally åtalad (charged/indicted); this begins a time limit on when the subject must be tried (although it can be extended if there are conditions that prevent the person from being tried immediately); and 6) the subject is tried (this cannot occur in absentia). As a general rule, while investigatory interviews are conducted anywhere, final interviews are conducted in Swedish custody, so that if the person is åtalad there is no risk that they could escape trial. This was the route sought by prosecutor Ny up until 2015, when - due to the shortage of time remaining on the lesser charges, and criticism from a lower court for her not seeking less conventional options to try to break the deadlock, Ny sought an interview in the Ecuadorian embassy. The deadlock on this latter issue remains to this day.

      The anklagad/åtalad distinction has often been a stumbling ground in the english-speaking press because it doesn't directly map to stages in US or British legal systems, which generally only recognize one stage of charging, while Sweden has two (one to bring a subject into custody, and one to initiate a trial). However, there is significant jurisprudence that anklagad equates to being charged within the context of an EAW - whatever language one chooses to use for other contexts.

      A general summary of peer-reviewed rankings of the Swedish legal system on different aspects can be found here, more detailed information about what the categories mean and how they're assessed here (extremely detailed here and here) , and more detailed information in general here.

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    13. Re:Here's a good question: by Rei · · Score: 1

      Ack, posted too soon... that was supposed to read significant precedent, not jurisprudence. :P Oh well...

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    14. Re:Here's a good question: by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      Exactly, and say what you want, but the USA is, for the most part, good. If either of these individuals (Assange, Castro) would have crossed Russia like they did the US, you'd better believe they would have been assassinated by now. Especially Snowden, without any doubt whatsoever. Russia would have had the mentality that he was one of their own, he was a traitor, and thus he would be killed regardless of where he was hiding out. Snowden would probably have gotten a nice dose of polonium like Litvinenko, as that's a particularly nasty way to kill off a trusted intelligence worker who has become a traitor. The bad thing about that is you're lying there for several days knowing and contemplating you'll be dead very soon, after lots of pain and suffering.

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  13. Not misunderstood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just reported in a way to lower the public's interest in a probably negative Clinton news.

  14. Re:The announcement: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can just picture the 400 pound nerd coming up with new "app" themes for every story!

  15. Something to get her indicted by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We already have the email issue, the Clinton Foundation issue, the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary, etc. I can't see anything else left to reveal that would be any more damaging at this point.

    He has said that the next dump contains evidence that will get Hillary Clinton indicted.

    I'm quite anxious to see what it is.

    Perhaps an early Christmas present for the American people!

    1. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, the email dump her lawyers gave the FBI contained enough for her to be indicted. There are dozens of military members in Leavenworth for similar offenses.

    2. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell, the email dump her lawyers gave the FBI contained enough for her to be indicted.

      True.

      There are dozens of military members in Leavenworth for similar offenses.

      No, there are people in military prison for doing FAR LESS.

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    3. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has said that the next dump contains evidence that will get Hillary Clinton indicted.

      Nothing will get Hillary indicted. Director Comey and the DoJ have made this abundantly clear.

      Hillary could be caught on camera in a dress made out of blood money, stand on a balcony snorting coke off a live girl and a dead boy while tweeting military secrets to a Russian dating service and the DoJ will not prosecute. End of story. Hillary is Martha's Vinyard royalty and royalty is above the law.

      Assange has bet the rest of his life on an ideal of how our society used to work.

    4. Re:Something to get her indicted by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Hell, the email dump her lawyers gave the FBI contained enough for her to be indicted. There are dozens of military members in Leavenworth for similar offenses.

      She is not a member of the military, and thus not subject to the UCMJ. When you join the military, you give up many rights enjoyed by citizens. You become, in fact, nothing more than a slave. You don't even have the right to know what medications you're being injected with, let alone to refuse an injection. Your body belongs to the corps [in question] and your soul belongs to Jesus, because all good soldiers love Jesus... and kill.

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    5. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, there are people in military prison for doing FAR LESS.

      Yes, the military still puts people in prison for marijuana possession.

      Terrible shame that.

    6. Re: Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Please read a statute and the relevant portions of Black Law Dictionary before claiming Someone broke the law. I'm sure the FBI would love to hear how you can do Their job better than Them.

    7. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, the military still puts people in prison for marijuana possession.

      Nice attempt at deflection. We're talking about people being put in prison because having a piece of equipment in the background of a selfie is considered such a grave example of negligence in the handling of sensitive material that it's worth locking someone up. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, deliberately conveys way-more-than-just-classified material to her uncleared staff and lawyers, storing it in private offices and homes ... and her negligence (despite negligence being the statute's standard for conviction) is considered inconsequential by the only entity that could indict her for it - the Obama administration that is actively supporting her candidacy. Trying to compare this to controlled substance trafficking while on duty in the military is absurd.

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    8. Re:Something to get her indicted by norweeg · · Score: 1

      There's lot of evidence for Trump to be indited on any number of things, but he never is. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you

    9. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the military still puts people in prison for marijuana possession.

      Nice attempt at deflection.

      We're talking about people being put in prison because having a piece of equipment in the background of a selfie is considered such a grave example of negligence in the handling of sensitive material that it's worth locking someone up.

      No, you're refusing to talk about how egregiously unjust the military's prosecution system is. But then, that's been true even before Eddie Slovik. The US military has never been a paragon of justice. But executing a man out of a fit of pique? That set a low bar.

      Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, deliberately conveys way-more-than-just-classified material to her uncleared staff and lawyers, storing it in private offices and homes ... and her negligence (despite negligence being the statute's standard for conviction) is considered inconsequential by the only entity that could indict her for it - the Obama administration that is actively supporting her candidacy.

      And none of it would be done by the Military, as she was a civilian, and always has been. She's not even eligible to be conscripted. Any involvement of the military in Hillary Clinton's prosecution would violate the Posse Comitatus Act. Well, ok, technically, the Navy has its own regulations, but it is still forbidden, so unless you're saying you want to subject us all to military law, it has no point. And while I suppose it's possible you are so deviant a personality that you would attempt to impose a military state upon the free people of the United States, it would be unfair of me to presume so, thus unless you say so, I won't argue it with you. Especially since the only viable argument is to shoot you in the head for treason, as due to your inability to reason, you would simply insist on doing it, even when shown it was anathema. So let's stick to what you did bring up. The military's abuse of justice. It is a terrible burden and harmful to the United States.

      Why don't you want to address it? You brought it up.

      Trying to compare this to controlled substance trafficking while on duty in the military is absurd.

      I said nothing about trafficking. I said possession. Very specific word there. Try to follow the conversation. I know, it's hard, but you can do it.

      Of course, the military does have issues with the treatment of off-duty behavior of some soldiers, not everybody is as scrupulous as Major Dad, so if you want we could discuss that too. Don't you think it's terrible that some officers are making soldiers perform charitable works? Even donate blood. Then again, there was a judge in Alabama who made people do that, well, not officially, but that was the implication. I bet you can't even say that was wrong. I bet you can't. You're a coward, and afraid to say anything that would take a bit of personal bravery.

    10. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      No, you're refusing to talk about how egregiously unjust the military's prosecution system is.

      No, I'm refusing to take the bait you're trying to use to change the subject, as a way to distract from the fact she only avoided indictment because of political support from the administration. Regardless, not a SINGLE person in the US military is there but for having volunteered to be there. The UCMJ is publicly available to read before you decide to start taking a paycheck and benefits from the DoJ, and nobody - NOBODY - is even a little bit foggy on whether or not being in uniform and carrying around weed are compatible. Anyone in uniform who's too dumb to know that should be in the brig just for being that dumb.

      And none of it would be done by the Military, as she was a civilian, and always has been.

      Both military and civilian government employees who work with the clearances to handle classified material are subject to the same rules.

      Any involvement of the military in Hillary Clinton's prosecution would violate the Posse Comitatus Act.

      Whew! It's a good thing you made that counterpoint to an argument nobody is having with you.

      So let's stick to what you did bring up. The military's abuse of justice.

      I brought up no such thing - you are deliberately manufacturing phony context so you can avoid talking about Clinton's slipperiness courtesy of Obama. I pointed out that people who are negligent with classified material go to jail. Unless they are Hillary Clinton, or any of the parade of her staff that have been given immunity deals by the Obama administration so they can cover for her.

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    11. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I'm refusing to take the bait you're trying to use to change the subject, as a way to distract from the fact she only avoided indictment because of political support from the administration.

      Nope, you're refusing to address a serious problem, and making a tedious excuse for your refusal to do the right thing. Yet it was a subject you brought up.

      Why do you lack the courage to denounce an actually abusive system, so badly that you immediately start to retract your support for your own statement?

      Did you not realize someone would notice what you said, and support you? Are you afraid that you'll be subject to criticism for taking on a sacred cow?

      Regardless, not a SINGLE person in the US military is there but for having volunteered to be there.

      Indeed, the rich and privileged have managed to end conscription, leaving themselves free to benefit, without risk of paying the price. And there are still concerns about lying recruiters, and even targeting of the impoversished for recruitment.. Recent editorial on conscription. Which is why there are severe questions about the prosecution of individuals in the military, since it is not representative of the public, which leads to abuse, since nobody cares about them.

      And then there's Trump's proposals.

      So needless to say, these are some serious issues, and you should treat them with a modicum of consideration, not attempt to ignore them.

      The UCMJ is publicly available to read before you decide to start taking a paycheck and benefits from the DoJ, and nobody - NOBODY - is even a little bit foggy on whether or not being in uniform and carrying around weed are compatible. Anyone in uniform who's too dumb to know that should be in the brig just for being that dumb.

      Which would be one thing except For all the shit it has lead to happening. I'd rather they smoke weed than commit suicide to be honest.

      It's ok, you can continue to stick your head in the sand and ignore the problem. You can do that. Totally.

      You shouldn't. But you can.

      Both military and civilian government employees who work with the clearances to handle classified material are subject to the same rules.

      Nope, different rules and protocols. Was true even when it was Francis Gary Powers, who absolutely was not working for the DOD, absolutely not. And of course, there are severe problems with that system, as came up in a story the other day.

      And then there was the story about misuse of databases by individuals engaging in personal affairs. Which is another problem that gets ignored.

      Any involvement of the military in Hillary Clinton's prosecution would violate the Posse Comitatus Act.

      Whew! It's a good thing you made that counterpoint to an argument nobody is having with you.

      You're the one bringing it up, when it's meaningless what would be done under the UCMJ to someone who isn't subject to it anyway. Now something meaningful is the treatment of individuals to injustice under the UCMJ. You brought that up, but the swerved away from it.

      It's a hot-potato, I'll grant you, but if you're brave, you can handle it. Right?

    12. Re: Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, now THAT was interesting.

    13. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Yes, you did. You complained about how there are people in military prison for doing far less.

      You, and only you, are choosing to interpret that comparison in a 100% backwards way. I think soldiers possessing illegal drugs should be subject to the UCMJ exactly as it's written, and exactly as they agreed to subject themselves to when they chose that line of work. Can you finally be clear on that?

      What the conversation is ACTUALLY ABOUT is the "little" federal employees getting prosecuted for their negligent handling of classified information (again, as they agreed they would be), but Hillary Clinton being protected from that prosecution (though SHE ALSO agreed to be subject to it for doing exactly the sort of things she did). Are we clear on that now? Or are you going to try to change the subject again?

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    14. Re: Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, and only you, are choosing to interpret that comparison in a 100% backwards way. I think soldiers possessing illegal drugs should be subject to the UCMJ exactly as it's written, and exactly as they agreed to subject themselves to when they chose that line of work. Can you finally be clear on that?

      Well, I'm glad that you finally made a statement of your position. But that just means that the truth is that you don't care that the military justice is abusive and show that you are too much of a coward to do anything about a real problem.

      What the conversation is ACTUALLY ABOUT is the "little" federal employees getting prosecuted for their negligent handling of classified information (again, as they agreed they would be), but Hillary Clinton being protected from that prosecution (though SHE ALSO agreed to be subject to it for doing exactly the sort of things she did). Are we clear on that now? Or are you going to try to change the subject again?

      You're the one who was trying to avoid the subject of a real and important problem, and even now, you're backing away from it, rather than admit there is an injustice problem in the military.

      You're just too much of a coward to stand up for the abused and mistreated. You should be brave enough to have a conversation about it. Heck, you should be brave enough to have a conversation about conscription, or the tolerance for alcohol, smoking, and even sexual abuse among the military, while mere possession of marijuana is still anathema. A soldier who gets drunk every weekend is in less trouble than one who gets a bag of weed for their cancer stricken grandmother.

      And you, you just brush it off. You won't even say "that is important" but instead dismiss it with a hysterical screaming fit. It has to be invalidated, that way you can pretend that you aren't ignoring a real problem.

    15. Re:Something to get her indicted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for sharing the Faux news perspective.

    16. Re:Something to get her indicted by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Name some of the little federal employees getting prosecuted for doing what Clinton did. So far, nobody's given me a name. Without a name I can check on, you're just mindlessly slinging mud.

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  16. Hopefully by dohzer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully they don't reveal Trump's tax return, because that will make Hillary look like an idiot for paying tax. Genius
    Genius Trump Trump Genius. Winning.
    #Genius. #Winning. #Gyna.

    1. Re:Hopefully by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, check out Hillary's 2015 tax return, page 17. She's using exactly the same carried loss maneuver to avoid paying taxes. Just like the New York Times does.

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    2. Re:Hopefully by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative
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    3. Re:Hopefully by cdrudge · · Score: 0

      To me it's not that either one of them carried over losses. The tax code allows it and you are smart to use existing code to your advantage. It's not even a questionable use of the code.

      For me, it's the amount. Trump carried forward $916m. Clinton $700k. Lots of people (ok, maybe not LOTS, but it's not unusual) have taken a $700k loss in an investment. How many have taken a personal $916m? There is no comparison between the two.

      Aside from lies, bigotry, and fear mongering Trump has campaigned on, he also campaigns on how successful he is and how he's going to make America Great Again by cutting taxes. If he is so successful, how does his business lose nearly a billion dollars during that market? How does that carry forward to 15-18 years worth of taxes if he claims he pays more in a year than we make in a lifetime? How is he being punished by heavy taxes if he doesn't pay any? If half of american doesn't pay taxes and it's crippling us, why isn't he part of the solution instead of the alleged problem?

      Trump just shows how hypocritical he is. He says one thing, but evidence points that he does the exact opposite in his own life.

    4. Re:Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And 2014, 2013 and probably other years but I'm too lazy too look.

      A recurring deduction of $700K a year really ads up over time.

    5. Re:Hopefully by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Not a Trump supporter but few large corporations pay lots of taxes. Many pay almost none sheltering themselves in shell corporations and oversea tax havens. But typical fashion the orange one made it about himself during the debate. If he was smart he would have spun it to something along the lines of "all smart large business owners pay no taxes and that's something I could reform better than anyone else". Anyine know if there is a 4th party canadate worth voting for? Because I cannot bring myself to vote for either of them.

    6. Re:Hopefully by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Actually, check out Hillary's 2015 tax return, page 17.

      Now check out that same line on her opponent's 2015 tax return....oh wait, you can't.

      I really don't understand why wikileaks is concentrating on the candidate who is hiding less.

    7. Re:Hopefully by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Now check out that same line on her opponent's 2015 tax return....oh wait, you can't.

      Right, because his 2015 tax returns ARE NOT COMPLETE. The IRS has placed them into that status by choosing to audit them, and like ANY lawyer would tell you or anyone else, he's keeping those NOT YET CONSIDERED FILED taxes on the table between him and the IRS until all of those thousands of pages of documents concerning his involvement in hundreds of business ventures are considered - BY THE IRS - to be complete and settled. All of which you know, but you're pretending you don't so you can deflect on the topic of Clinton and entities like the NYT doing exactly the same maneuver to avoid paying taxes they are not obligated to pay.

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    8. Re:Hopefully by swb · · Score: 1

      That was basically his line in the first primary debate. He said politicians were for sale and that he had given several people sharing the stage with him checks. I guess I interpreted him as saying as a rich person he knew the system was corrupt first hand and that he wanted to reform it.

      I think he could have communicated this a lot better but I think as the campaign has moved on his reform-centric direction has shifted.

      Frankly I'm not surprised he used accounting wizardry to cut his tax burden. I'm sure all rich people do. What would be surprising would be a multimillionaire who had basically paid ordinary taxes without any tax avoidance strategy. I suspect if you don't use every tax dodge there is you will eventually get bled dry by taxes.

    9. Re:Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003...1996...

      Just a juicy taste of the damage the '95 returns are doing lets anyone with half a brain know why he's not releasing them. Come on, do you honestly believe the audit thing or are you just arguing to argue.?

      Captcha: adduce - Sometimes I think the /. captcha will pass the turing test, and is just fucking with us.

    10. Re:Hopefully by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Right, because his 2015 tax returns ARE NOT COMPLETE. The IRS has placed them into that status by choosing to audit them...

      Nope, that's a lie put out by Trump. (as are >50% of his statements. I really don't understand why anyone would uncritically repeat him). This has been debunked so many times, I'd feel silly just picking one source to refute it. Just Google "IRS audit statement Trump" and pick your favorite.

      The best that can be said for it (which I read on The Hill), was that it wouldn't be legally very smart of him to do so, as the media is liable to end up doing a lot of the IRS's investigative work for them, but that's still entirely his choice (and could be said about anyone). Clinton and every other major-party POTUS candidate have done so anyway. The fact that's he's afraid to do so is pretty damning.

    11. Re:Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump never said the IRS wouldn't let him release returns. He said:
      1) they couldn't be released while under audit (not legally true, but if my lawyer said "don't to X" I would probably say "I can't do X", but I suppose there could be a legally binding contract of his employment that actually does prevent him from releasing)
      2) following the advice of his legal counsel he is not releasing while under audit (a more accurate statement)

    12. Re:Hopefully by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Trump never said the IRS wouldn't let him release returns

      Yes, he did say that. Repeatedly, starting in February of 2016.

      When someone repeatedly says they want to do something but can't, when the truth is that they can do that thing, but don't want to, that is what we call a LIE.

    13. Re:Hopefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure what you're getting at. Nobody's saying that it's cheating to use that line on the form, just that it's not intended to be used to avoid paying income taxes on a permanent basis.

      The Clintons deducted some $600,000 to make up for previous losses, but still ended up paying $3 million in income taxes! Their effective tax rate was over 30%, as compared to Trump's, which is probably 0% or less.

      The Clintons pay more Federal income taxes in a year than I likely will my entire life, while I probably pay more in a year than Trump will his entire life.

      So I should vote for a freeloader who thinks I'm a shmuck for paying my fair share? I don't think so!

      dom

    14. Re:Hopefully by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      FYI politifact is about as biased as you can get. They go out of their way to push an agenda, and even when something is true and makes their team look bad they'll double down and mark it as fake.

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    15. Re:Hopefully by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. The old theory that "The Truth has a well-known Liberal bias".

    16. Re:Hopefully by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Facts have a reality bias you mean? If you're trusting a newspaper that operates a "fact checking" organization aka politifact, and you're unwilling or simply willing to believe whatever they shove in front of you...well you're the perfect ignorant voter they're looking for.

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  17. Re:Repent and be saved. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

    No matter what year it is over the last 2000 years, some nut thinks it's the Apocalypse.

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  18. I know! I know! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Assange will announce his first hardware product, the JulianFone. It will be designed to hack into all WiFi nodes within range, suck data from them and display a continuous scroll of surrounding secrets for your viewing pleasure.

    It will run only one standard app, Tinder.

  19. Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by dfenstrate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the problem is that too few care. She's on the same 'D' team as 80% of the media, so every incompetent or corrupt act is explained away by legions of sycophants.

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    1. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

      And the reason the 'D' team is they don't funnel money to their supporters in so many ways, they use dump trucks to deliver it to favored entities at a new rate of an additional $1 trillion per year. over the time when the Bushes were President.

    2. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by mvdwege · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you even considered that what you think is 'everyone' might be wrong?

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    3. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since Hillary has never been indicted and then convicted in a court of law, nobody knows any such damned thing.

    4. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      There's really no need to consider that option. Because she's objectively guilty of things far more reckless and deliberate than acts which have put other people in jail. It's as simple as that. Government employees go to jail for doing far, far less than she has. The facts are plain, in front of you, confirmed by the FBI. But the only entity that can actually indict Clinton is ... the Obama administration. Who support her campaign. Are you clear on this?

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    5. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only ones left then would be the independent and third party candidates. I'd bet many or most voters still think there are only two candidates and two parties left.

    6. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by mvdwege · · Score: 0

      There's really no need to consider that option.

      Yes, I know. Thinking is hard. Regurgitating Breitbart is easier.

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    7. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, on one hand, we have the FBI listing facts that support a criminal indictment, then mysteriously deciding that in spite of the law being against negligence, they would have to prove intent, when any normal person can go look at a dictionary and find out that this is, in fact, a literal contradiction in terms:

      "Negligence (Lat. negligentia, from neglegere, to neglect, literally "not to pick up something") is a failure to exercise the care that a reasonably prudent person would exercise in like circumstances. The area of tort law known as negligence involves harm caused by carelessness, not intentional harm."

      But it's fine, you've got insults on your side! It's okay, I'm sure that reality is magically biased in your favor, so there's no need to bother with trivial things like facts. Everyone who disagrees with you is a bad person and that means they're automatically wrong.

    8. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by SadButResolved · · Score: 1

      BUTTTTTTT,,,, The Main stream Media said Trump was mean and a racist!!! And Taxes, he used tax law!!!! He must never be president!!!
      I'm going to need one of those new safe, no speaking zones when I get to college!!!! Words are so mean!!!

    9. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had your chance to call for the indictment of anyone on your political side, you didn't. You refused to even name any whose prosecution you'd support.

      Thus your complaints about Hillary Clinton are nothing more than noise.

      It's your own fault. You oppose Hillary Clinton and all of her policies, so believing you is just not going to happen.

      Too bad you're not clear on that. Otherwise you could have fixed it. All you'd have to do is name names, and start clearing out your own house.

      But nope, you can't even say that Trump should be prosecuted for his numerous crimes. You can't even specifically address any disapproval you have of him at all. You're just a partisan shill.

    10. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's really no need to consider that option.

      Yes, I know. Thinking is hard. Regurgitating Breitbart is easier.

      It's always fun to watch the deflection attempts, in place of a single coherent response on the subject matter.

      People are in prison - more, newly this year - for doing far, far less than Clinton in simple neglect surrounding sensitive material. You know this. It's public record type stuff. You can't not know it, you can only pretend you don't know it. So the question is: why are you pretending to be dumb in order to support your lying, corrupt candidate? Why do you think that's a good thing? It's an odd position to take if you're trying to be persuasive.

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    11. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by mvdwege · · Score: 0

      I am not supporting my candidate. She is not my candidate, which you would have known, had you not been the usual right-wing fuckwit too stupid to breathe without their Leader telling them to.

      The public record you speak of shows Hillary being exonerated on almost all claims. It's only the sort of idiots who live in Breitbart and Infowars echo chambers who think otherwise.

      In case the insults hadn't clued you in (of course they didn't, you're a rightwing idiot, after all): I'm not interested in debating you; you are far too stupid to do such a thing. So fuck off already.

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    12. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another paid troll funded by the Clinton campaign. http://www.nydailynews.com/new...

    13. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh goodness, another pointless accusation, when the whole issue is ScentCone's inability to accept the prosecution anyone on his own political side, even a complete refusal to identify anyone.

      Of course, ScentCone can't admit he's a partisan shill, a whiner, and all around irrational thinker, but that's not my problem.

      It is yours though, since you would rather freak out over something unrelated rather than address ScentCone's numerous character issues.

    14. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Yes, I can see that you're a rational person, interested in substantive discussion.

      So, who do you think should be seated on the Supreme Court? Please be specific.

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    15. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That... isn't the law? The law for civilian disclosure of classified material is in Title 18, USC, Section 1924 and gives penalties only for "knowing" (i.e. intent is important) disclosure of classified information. Without the ability to prove intent, there is thus no basis for a criminal charge.

    16. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have some reason to believe that there are factual inaccuracies on Breitbart? Please do share your research.

    17. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She personally took tens of millions from banks in closed door, secret meetings. (She and not her foundation).

      You can hide behind the naive and patently idiotic defense that this money was for "speeches", but when politicians get caught taking tens of millions from one of the most dangerous and powerful cartels on Earth, only an idiot pretends that she was getting paid for her insight. (And if she were, show us the transcripts!).

      And let's talk about that insight. There are Ivy league professors, award winning columnists, Nobel prize winners and industry leaders who also give speeches for compensation. Only those speeches pay approximately 1-2% of what Hillary was getting. So one speech from Hillary on the subject of banking is worth more than 100x what a Nobel prize winning economist gets?

      How stupid do you have to be to not see corruption when it's staring you in the face?

      (Now is when you're going to proffer up the old "Everyone does it" defense).

      You're pathetic.

    18. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That's not what the FBI said, guy. The FBI said that there was no precedent for criminal prosecution in Clinton's case, and that those who were negligent in similar ways were disciplined administratively. So far, nobody has given me a single name of someone who negligently exposed a relatively small number of classified documents and faced serious criminal prosecution.

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    19. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      If that's widely known public record type stuff, it should be easy for you to name ONE of these many people in prison for doing less than Clinton did. I'm still waiting, guys.

      Or it could be that you're not only spouting baseless accusations, but coming up with empty phrases to support your "arguments".

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  20. Re:The announcement: by AlphaBro · · Score: 1

    Never leave us, app appers LUDDITE AC guy.

  21. Re:she will get very sick after winning if she is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will get very sick after winning if she is not dead all ready

    Sick of your stupid idiotic shit..

  22. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because the poster knew what the fuck he was talking about, maybe?

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  23. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by konohitowa · · Score: 1

    You have to keep up on the /. herd mentality. It changes regularly, and typically by Pi radians.

  24. Re:Repent and be saved. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 0

    If Jesus returned today, I think he would be shocked and dismayed to learn that he's the centre of a religion. Especially one that manages to ignore as inconvenient a great deal of what he actually taught.

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  25. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be fair, this has been going on for at least 3.000 years.

  26. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I generally agree with denouncing the supporter bashing, no matter victim or source. However this is an apt allegory. Either we get the slaughterhouse owner, or we get the farmer that is chained via purse strings to the slaughterhouse owner. To think that one is better than the other from a steer's view is folly.

    That's American Politics.

  27. Re:Repent and be saved. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you are not well-read in the Bible you will not understand what is happening to the world. It is both an exhilarating and terrifying time to be alive. I look across the world and see so many lost souls rejecting love and truth in favor of lies and hate. Unless we are capable of a perfect life lived before a perfect God, the blood of Jesus is our only salvation. Seek him while you can...

    Wrong! #CrookedJesus is a big loser and also a Jew (which is fine) but believe me, he had terrible ratings. Terrible ratings. And he didn't have my temperament and stamina. If you want to be messiah, you've got to have stamina. I said, stamina. I prefer my messiahs not to get captured by Romans and crucified, all right? Sad!

    I was going to say something very rough about Jesus and a prostitute. Very rough. But I'm not going to go there, all right?

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  28. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I think he would be shocked and dismayed to learn that he's the centre of a religion

    If that was true, it's not clear to me why Jesus would appoint a bunch of leaders and say things like "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me."

  29. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Hillary is a farmer and trump is the slaughterhouse, maybe its time to stampede the fucking fence....

  30. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he returned today, he'd get a bus full of his righteous bros and ship it to Colorado. He would sit around on welfare thumbing his hairy arsehole, eating TV dinners, smoking legal weed, and drinking cheap wine coolers. Him and his disciples would watch History Channel programs and blaze it.

  31. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fence is surrounded by caltrops and land mines, and is charged to 8,000 volts.

  32. Peter Griffin by Sulik · · Score: 1

    Oh my GOD! Who the hell CARES ?!

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  33. Re: The announcement: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Appctually they were talking about Appsange you apphole

  34. Re: How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Its all about whos football team is moderately for or moderately against abortion rights judicial appointments. Yes I said football team.

  35. Re: How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awe come on I think you're BOTH pretty.

  36. Set the fire to the building to force him out by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Set the fire to the building to force him out and it will be on his head and not the one shot one kill guy.

  37. Re:Repent and be saved. by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    You forgot to mention that Jesus had really small hands, pathetic, he wasn't winning with his tiny hands. Sad.

    By the way, just for the record I don't think Jesus had hands. I don't think there ever was Jesus, most likely just a fictional character, not even a real guy. Of-course there is no god, so even if there was a guy, he was just a third party candidate, so he didn't end up doing that well...

  38. Re:Repent and be saved. by worf_mo · · Score: 1

    Jesus is actually quite annoyed by all these "christians"... I loved John Niven's The Second Coming (not for the easily offended)

  39. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sick of yours. There is simply no reasonable doubt that Clinton is corrupt. She has (personally) taken tens of millions from literally every special interest that is dangerous to liberty. There's no other word for this than "corruption". Her foreign policy is bald faced neocon. Her health is not good (she collapsed after standing for 30 minutes in sweltering 79 degree shade). And she runs a foundation which is very obviously a political slush fund with a tiny piece of "charitable aid" tacked on for pretenses.

    Your candidate is a joke. Your inability to think critically is even funnier.

  40. wake me up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    when there is an actual announcement, everything else is a waste of bandwidth

  41. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by Maritz · · Score: 1

    All of that could be true, and she'd still be a better option than your tiny-handed orange-faced wannabe tyrant.

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  42. Trumpism by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    Let me guess: Assange send a team of experts to Hawaii, and they can't BELIEVE what they are finding.

  43. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USA, Saudi Arabia, Iran.. Religious extremists.

  44. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No Jesus ever spoke those words (or any other words, but that's another issue entirely): a crazy christian in the first half of the second century came up with that line that nobody before him ever heard. A christian can't be well read into the Bible: he has to misinterpret it completely or he has to give up on christianity.

  45. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "the blood of Jesus is our only salvation."

    An old Woody Allen joke is that he once saved a girl from a rapist... by self-controlling himself. You think Jesus is going to save you, but who is going to destroy you if not Jesus himself? If you believe in the insane angelic mythology satan doesn't have any reason to destroy you, he at most wants you as an ally against his foe, so you are going to be fine, and even if you thing there is a satan who wants to destroy you for no reason at all, well who created satan? If you only believe that the punishment for nonbelievers is eternal death, well who made our universe that way, with entropy and all? Thank you very much Jesus! And more importantly, if you believe in an eternal life with no entropy, who will save you from that hell? If there's no entropy nothing will ever happen, you won't be able to think, love, create, crave for stuff, anything at all... you will be just a salt statue perpetually looking at the eye of sauron.

  46. Fuck Ass Ange.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ever since he started to play in "politics" with a particular bias and trying to influence the outcome of the American election he has lost all credibility with me. I'm betting he can't get his head and his ass (in whatever car he owns) at the same time!

    Wikileaks should dump him (if possible).

    1. Re:Fuck Ass Ange.... by SadButResolved · · Score: 0

      He released a batch of emails, and Hillary and Obama tried to railroad him into life in prison. Hillary has it out for him, why would he not be biased. The Mainstream media cares more about him than the contents of the emails that exposed death of millions with your tax dollars. You AC, should remain hidden and bury your head in your pillow for being so out of touch with reality, or so in touch with MAIN STREAM Media's version of Reality. I mean someone paid a lot to construct that for you, why disappoint, right!!

  47. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are not well-read in the Bible you will not understand what is happening to the world. It is both an exhilarating and terrifying time to be alive. I look across the world and see so many lost souls rejecting love and truth in favor of lies and hate. Unless we are capable of a perfect life lived before a perfect God, the blood of Jesus is our only salvation. Seek him while you can...

    Wrong! #CrookedJesus is a big loser and also a Jew (which is fine) but believe me, he had terrible ratings. Terrible ratings. And he didn't have my temperament and stamina. If you want to be messiah, you've got to have stamina. I said, stamina. I prefer my messiahs not to get captured by Romans and crucified, all right? Sad!

    I was going to say something very rough about Jesus and a prostitute. Very rough. But I'm not going to go there, all right?

    I saw thousands of people celebrating when he was nailed to the cross...

  48. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by ogdenk · · Score: 0

    And Gary Johnson, despite his verbal stumbling on Aleppo, is a more experienced and qualified candidate than either one of those losers. Arguing whether the corrupt oligarch NWO tyrant is better than the xenophobic "Christian Nationalist" ignorant rich boy is a laughable concept at best.

    BOTH of your candidates are not just unfit but downright dangerous as well as being a very serious threat to liberty and prosperity in this country. So you know what? Fuck you both! If you aren't voting third party at this point you're part of god damn problem and collaborating with the enemy as far as I'm concerned. I'm voting for liberty and keeping the feds out of my damn life in November. You idiots vote for whoever you want to.

    The only "wasted vote" is a vote for Clinton or Trump.

  49. Re: Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You over look the fact courts tend to use Black's Law Dictionary and not Webster's. Proving intent is required.

  50. Re: Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show Me on the doll where Hillary touched You.

  51. I prefer replying, usually... by HBI · · Score: 1

    I couldn't find a thread I liked in this post, though. I'm a Trump supporter, but I am a realist. I have a hard time imagining anything Assange could release that would be material to this race.

    I'll be pleased to be proven wrong, but I'm a skeptic.

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  52. Thomas Drake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drake was indicted for, basically, having five "classified" documents in his home, two of which were not really classified. He didn't show them to anybody else, there wasn't any evidence he meant to have them (he had thousands of unclassified documents stored in his home) they weren't on a server or available to the public in any way. That was worth an indictment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake#2007_FBI_raids

  53. The cyber is so big by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    "And you know cyber is becoming so big today. It’s becoming something that number of years ago, short number of years ago, wasn’t even a word. And now the cyber is so big, and you know look at what they’re doing with the internet. How they’re taking recruiting people through the internet. And part of it is the psychology because so many people think they’re winning. And you know, there’s a whole big thing. Even today, psychology — where CNN came out with a big poll. Their big poll came out today that Trump is winning. It’s good psychology, you know. It’s good psychology. I know that for a fact because people that didn’t call me yesterday, they’re calling me today. So that’s the way life works right?"

  54. Hilary's not running on her business acumen by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    That's what makes this sting for Trump. People expect Trump to do well because he's such a great business man. Anything that undermines that narrative is a major thorn in his side.

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  55. Citation needed by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    even on the right wing sites the closed I could find were folks being fired for what Hilary did. And a firing is up to her boss, which would be Obama. The rest of the "Examples of folks Jailed" were all people who sold classified info to foreign governments.

    Nevermind the fact that _everybody_ in the State department was doing what Hilary did. Probably the greatest moment in her career was when a bunch of folks were saying Colin Powel advised her to set up the server and she got up and said: "No, I take full responsibility for my actions" and then a few weeks later it got leaked that Colin did, in fact, suggest running that server. If nothing else that shows a surprising amount of loyalty that she's yet to get any credit for.

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    1. Re:Citation needed by Bartles · · Score: 1

      If Hillary gets indicted then so does Obama. It's clear at this point that he was complicit with the server. He claimed that he heard about her server "on the news" like everybody else. But actually he had been communicating with her in unsecured communication on her her server using a pseudonym. That's why Hillary wasn't indicted.

    2. Re:Citation needed by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      This.

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    3. Re: Citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, now you're trying to convince yourself there is even more afoot, we just have to believe!

      Guess you did realize that the "Obama didn't know Hillary's email" had no traction. So now you set up another wild story!

    4. Re: Citation needed by Bartles · · Score: 1

      It may be a wild story, but it's also the truth.

      linky

    5. Re: Citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the allegation here again. Look at your link.

      All you have is some ambiguous remarks about a "pseudonym" which just ! means what, exactly? A display name for an account? That could be on either side of the communication, and indicates nothing about what server Obama was using.

      Once again, a failure to substantiate, and instead looking worse by doing it.

    6. Re:Citation needed by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Did Obama communicate with classified documents on Clinton's server? There was nothing illegal about having a private server when Clinton had it.

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    7. Re: Citation needed by Bartles · · Score: 1

      All presidential communications are classified.

    8. Re: Citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All presidential communications are classified.

      Damn, I guess we need to arrest NPR, CPSAN, FOX, CNN, ABCNEWS, NBCNEWS, CBSNEWS, REUTERS, the AP and more!

      Not to mention the White House Press Secretary, the whole Correspondence Office, and just in case, the First Lady.

      You're just trying too hard, you don't realize how demented you're getting.

    9. Re: Citation needed by Bartles · · Score: 1

      You're obviously incapable of rational thought.

    10. Re: Citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the one who said what you said:

      All presidential communications are classified.

      A perfect opportunity making light of your obviously excessive statement which would obviously result in absurd circumstances.

      If you weren't so demented, you'd see that, but well, you are, so you can't.

    11. Re: Citation needed by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      In which case it's a good thing that possession of classified material is legal, since I keep listening to Presidential speeches and reading things the President said. I assume the White House Press Secretary is routinely indicted, tried, and put into prison for twenty years, although I really haven't seen the turnover in the job I'd expect, or the reluctance to take it.

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  56. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

    What a load of crap.

    A train is out of control on a track. You have access to a switch that could send it to one track with 2 people on it, or another with 5. Those are the choices my friend. You don't get to say, "I'd fix the brakes", or call Superman. Your vote for Johnson will have the affect of rolling dice to decide which track the train takes - which, I suppose if you really think there's no difference between Clinton or Trump on any issue you care about, is rational. But of course the thought that there's no difference is irrational in and of itself.

    At best, your point is that we need a different system for electing Presidents - and possibly a large turnout for Johnson might inch that into being. I'd say there are better ways - like electing Johnson (or Sanders, or Stein, or Nader)-like candidates to Congress or State legislatures from districts where they stand a chance of winning. And then changing the election system through a process that can actually do it. Because Presidencies have long-term repercussions, so they're best not used to 'send a message' when there are other, better ways.

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  57. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy crap, you're Trump's speech writer!

  58. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is no god

    what do you think you have to gain with your phony atheism gag, and do you really think you're fooling anyone with it? compared to you, the pope is an atheist. just because you worship someone who is currently alive rather than a non-physical deity doesn't mean you qualify as an atheist.

  59. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, well I just watched a speech by Neil Degrasse Tyson this morning that I found rather compelling. In it he pointed out how the Middle east "was" a major center for learning and culture around a thousand years ago. They pretty much invented our current understanding of basic mathematics, astronomy and several other subjects. Then they began taking their religion too seriously and they've never recovered from that act of stupidity. I think he referred to it as "revelations over investigations". I didn't get to finish the video but think what he was basically getting at was if we're not careful we might join them, a tale of warning told by future historians about the remaining superpower of the technological/industrial revolution which squandered its influence, money and resources trying to "prove" religious doctrine (building mythical Arcs, invading countries with different belief systems, avoiding discussions of sex/evolution/science in schools, discriminating against people with different beliefs, outlawing/policing "immoral" (see religiously forbade) activities, etc) and eventually collapsing in on itself.

  60. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

    Trump is a textbook example of the type of people the establishment works for.

    No, this is a flat out lie!!! Trump is quintessentially anti-establishment. He bootstrapped his election with his own money. He's HATED by the GOP establishment; so many that there will be defections to the Democrat party. And then, this shit about him working for the establishment??! You motherfucking cock-sucking shills for the DNC; go choke on a dick!

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  61. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by ogdenk · · Score: 2

    What a load of crap.

    A train is out of control on a track. You have access to a switch that could send it to one track with 2 people on it, or another with 5. Those are the choices my friend. You don't get to say, "I'd fix the brakes", or call Superman. Your vote for Johnson will have the affect of rolling dice to decide which track the train takes - which, I suppose if you really think there's no difference between Clinton or Trump on any issue you care about, is rational.

    The lesser of two evils is still evil. I'm all for destroying the tracks ahead of the train and using the fallout from the deadly chaos as a good reason to lay new tracks and build a better and more reliable train. That way the out of control train is destroyed far away from my town where a trainwreck would be more catastrophic.

    In the ways most pertinent to me, this is choice of which disgusting tyranny I'd rather endure.... my answer is neither.

    But of course the thought that there's no difference is irrational in and of itself.

    At best, your point is that we need a different system for electing Presidents - and possibly a large turnout for Johnson might inch that into being. I'd say there are better ways - like electing Johnson (or Sanders, or Stein, or Nader)-like candidates to Congress or State legislatures from districts where they stand a chance of winning. And then changing the election system through a process that can actually do it. Because Presidencies have long-term repercussions, so they're best not used to 'send a message' when there are other, better ways.

    There's already around 600 libertarians in public office throughout the US, most of them in local or state government. Many Republicans have switched parties as well since the Republicans gradual shift toward becoming the "Christian Nationalist Party" became ever more apparent.

    Yes, presidencies have long term repercussions which is precisely why we need qualified people with actual experience governing in that position. Clinton has experience screwing up foreign policy and Trump has experience being a spoiled rich boy smart enough not to play games with his own money when driving businesses into the dirt. Neither of which are something we need to endure at this critical juncture. Both Johnson and Weld are popular 2-term governors with a track record of actual leaving their respective states FAR better off than when they started. And they are on the ballot in all 50 states. Hardly a fringe protest vote.

    If you think forcing a shitty destructive candidate down our throats simply to preserve a corrupt and dying 2 party system is "the better way" you are delusional, simply engaging in wishful thinking or just like to parrot popular views concocted to preserve a screwed up system.

    But, hey, if you like the current oligarchy feel free to waste your vote on one of those two weasels.

  62. Assange wants Trump in the White House? by surfcow · · Score: 1

    Actions have consequences.

    1. Re:Assange wants Trump in the White House? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone should have told Hillary that.

  63. Re: Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope. We have intent. There were explicit instructions given to destroy all data on the hard drive AFTER the investigation began.

    This is open and shut.

  64. Re: Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal.. by monkeyman.kix · · Score: 1

    NEGLIGENCE. The omission to do something which a reasonable man, guided by those considerations which ordinarily regulate the conduct of human affairs, would do. or doing something which a prudent and reasonable man would not do. It must be determined in all cases by reference to the situation and knowledge of the parties and all the attendant circumstances.

    Hillary's email server was secured the same way that the "reasonable predecessor (aka C. Powell https://www.engadget.com/2016/...)" used. While you can say that slashdot users know better, average joe blow or a braindead politician would not know how to secure an email server, so by definition of law there is no negligence here.

  65. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remind me, which candidate will start the Apocalypse if they're elected president?

  66. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

    Well, at least I've coaxed you into revealing your utterly nihilistic thought process. My job for today is done - vote for whomever you please, and I hope anybody reading this gets that your advice may be counter-productive - by design.

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  67. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by dbreeze · · Score: 1

    I've voted 3rd party ever since Reagan. Can't do it this time. The Clinton/Bush establishment machine is just too obvious for me not to see that they won't allow another "election" to threaten their thirst for power if they get the WH again. This may very well be the last chance to take back control of our country through the ballot box. Clinton is just long-time, known, self-serving evil. I can't be a part of putting them in power over my child's future.

    Trump may turn out to be just as bad, but he could be for real. Anyone who'll spend the time to go over his positions( donaldjtrump.com ), and actually pay attention to what he says in full context, should realize that the racist buffoon portrayal is just political fear-mongering. I'm greatly encouraged by the establishment's horror and consternation, on both sides, at the notion of Trump as President. At least there's a possibility he's real. I'm frankly terrified for my child if the Clintons get another stint in the WH.

    I'm voting Trump for President this time, but I'll still vote 3rd party everywhere else possible....

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  68. Free State Project's Mass Migration to NH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why the Free State Project was started, and why other groups such as the Shire Society, and similar all across New Hampshire have sprung up. 20,000+ people are migrating here and 10% have already moved. The biggest problem is the acceptance by the masses and the status quo. They won't vote for anything other than a democrat or republican and certainly not for someone who wants to eliminate government. If you want to get rid of government you need to migrate to New Hampshire and take part in the mass migration of liberty-minded individuals who would rather have some risk in life rather than be controlled, and don't buy into any of the FUD presented by the politicians. The real threat is the US government, not Russia/Iran/North Korea/Iraq, paedophiles, homosexuals, rapists, communists, terrorists, drug dealers, gun advocates, teenagers (yea, they keep upping the driving age, etc), or any of the other boogeyman that supposedly threaten us.

    Check out www.freekeene.com and www.freestateproject.org for more on what is happening in New Hampshire.

  69. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by ogdenk · · Score: 1

    Not sure why you think that's so nihilistic. If the citizens on the tracks are a metaphor for the people who will get screwed over by which direction it takes..... I would simply vote to stop the train by whatever means necessary and screw over the people that boarded a train they most likely helped sabotage in the first place. Seems pretty damn logical to me if "fixing the brakes" or SuperMan aren't options.

    Whether now or later, stopping the train MUST happen. I'd rather it happened when I was still relatively young and able to recover.

  70. Re:Repent and be saved. by dbreeze · · Score: 1

    So, I'm a "troll" huh? Could I have asked for a better confirmation of the spiritual condition of today's society? When i get to heaven, I'm going to find Jonah first thing, and let him know just how much he spoke to me...
    I'll tell each of you young(and not so young) people the same thing I tell my own grown child, and every one else I care for. You remain ignorant of, or rely on others to explain to you, the contents of the Holy Scriptures at the peril of your own eternal soul.

    Here's a man, https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ,who was working in information and military technologies at the highest levels while most all of us were still learning not to shit our pants. I'm nobody, barely a half century of life experience, not much reason for any of you to give me a second thought. But, I dare any of you "educated", "intelligent" men to give Mr. Missler an honest hour of your time and come back saying there's nothing to be gained from a solid personal investigation of the message of the Bible.

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  71. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, both his post and yours contain absolutely nothing to back them up and are obviously lies, yet get modded "insightful" and "interesting", while the one that questions it is "flamebait". Obviously the clinton trolls got some mod points today.

    How's David Brock doing, btw? He still buying you idiots off with pizza?

  72. Really? Team D? Ask Al Gore how well... by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    ...that worked out for him in 2000, when the media was so busy ratfucking him over invented fibs they didn't notice Bush taking credit for a bill he vetoed as governor of Texas.

    The media giving Hillary a pass on her lies, corruption and incompetence has nothing to do with her party affiliation - which should clearly be R - and everything to do with her being part of the status quo.

  73. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    You are right, calling Trump the slaughterhouse owner is seriously unfair... to slaughterhouse owners, who in this metaphor would be Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers.
    Trump is more like the crazy guy in the scarecrow suit who is asking the cows to vote for him to burn the barn down with them in it.

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  74. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

    Because voting for a third party won't have the metaphorical effect of stopping the train.

    Clinton or Trump is going to be elected, whether or not you think the system by which that happens is corrupt. And calls to 'blow up the tracks' are about as likely to change that corrupt system as your vote is to get Johnson or Stein elected. That's why Bernie Sanders chose not to attempt to run as a 3rd party candidate - he's made the calculation that he can get more of his program enacted by helping elect Clinton than by 'making a statement about the corrupt system'. He's already made that statement in the primary season, and sabotaging the general election won't make that statement any stronger - it'll just make him ignorable as a a saboteur.

    I would suggest that your feeling that your protest vote will stop the train - or even move the needle in that direction - is where the narcissism/nihilism lines start to get crossed...

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  75. Wikileaks Revenge Vendetta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything coming from wikileaks regarding Clinton is tainted by Asange's revenge motives.
    Maybe he should release the Drumpf's tax returns so demonstrate his integrity? :-)

  76. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are not a troll, you are a brainwashed moron who thinks he understand scripture, but DEMONSTRABLY doesn't know who wrote those books, when they wrote them and why, and not even what they are talking about. The video you posted PROVES that you are an uneducated moron, because instead of linking to at least some respectable academic work you prefer that same fundamentalist nonsense that's been plaguing the world for thousands of years, and by brainwashing your children you make sure that vicious cycle of ignorance and superstition will go on.

    A case in point is Danel. The moron you linked to claims the bible contains prophecies about future events revealed by an extraterrestrial entity. Daniel is surely among the prophecies he has in mind: it contains a lot of historical predictions that would be remarkably accurate ... had it been written down in the 6th century BCE, like it pretends to be. But it was actually written in the 2th century BCE, long after all those historical facts already happened and were common knowledge. The same trick is used in all the other books, even the gospels, there is no real prophecy in the entire bible, they are all 1) post-facto fake prophecies like much of Daniel, 2) completely failed prophecies that were later reinterpreted as still current prophecies because some moron believes the bible can't be wrong like Jeremiah, 3) vague statements that are bound to became true given sufficient time, or 4) common prose misinterpreted as prophecy by lunatics like you, even with the help of the linguistic mismatch between hebrew and koine.

    I'm at the point in the video where the talking moron claims the bible predicted modern cosmology, guess what, every islamic moron makes EXACTLY the same claim for his holy book, and with EXACTLY the same amount of evidence (zero). A thinking brain can't believe this stuff, it takes some serious brainwashing. Oh well...

  77. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He doesn't have anything to gain by claiming there is no god, that's why he looks more honest than all those guys claiming there is a god just to cheat death. And he is not worshipping anyone, it's all in your head.

  78. Re:Repent and be saved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And he is not worshipping anyone, it's all in your head.

    Have you read much of what roman writes here? He is a ardent follower and recruiter for the church of Ron Paul. Nearly everything he says here comes from the gospel of Ron Paul or the holy scriptures of Ayn Rand. Everything he writes is bait to try to convert people - or is blatantly attempting to do so. As the previous AC stated, the pope is an atheist in comparison to the unending faith that drives every single word roman writes here. That is why roman has a sock puppet account that he conveniently sometimes forgets to acknowledge to be his, that he uses when he feels he needs extra exposure for his religion.

  79. Re:The announcement: by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I find it often cute and clever, though some of them fall flat.

    I also found the moo ones funny, but I am weird like that.

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