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Apple To Make macOS Sierra Available As Automatic Download Beginning Today (loopinsight.com)
Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers? That surely made a lot of people furious. Today, Apple told The Loop that it will also begin automatic download of its latest desktop operating system update, macOS Sierra on Macs that are compatible with the new software -- provided, automatic downloads are switched on and the Mac has enough storage space. From the report: t's important to note that this is not an automatic installer -- this process will only download the update in the background, and then alert you that it is available to install. You can choose to install it when its convenient. You can also choose to ignore the update. [...] Of course, you can manually delete the download if you don't wish to upgrade, and you can choose to manually download the update from the App Store at any time.
You can COMPLETELY disable that behavior by simply loading the App Store preferences, and unchecking:
"Automatically check for updates".
Bango, presto, shazam - NO MORE AUTOMATIC UPDATES.
Jesus christ, are you really this thick?
An announcement on the front page of GPGTools.org: "IMPORTANT: GPGMail, our plugin for securing emails using GPG in Mail.app is not yet compatible with macOS Sierra. If you rely on GPGMail, please refrain from updating to macOS Sierra for the time being!" This is kind of important to me, so...
Question: Does that disable *all* automatic application updates? ie - Baby with the bathwater?
... and then you lose out on security updates, forcing you to manually check?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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"Normal" updates I would normally accept to have, because they're typically small (
Then why would you have turned on automatic updates again?
Remember that is a setting that YOU YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN HANDS have to enable. If I cared specifically about bandwidth I would not have that enabled... even if the general expectation was somewhat low numbers you never know as over time apps may update often which would mean a lot of downloads.
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"Apple downgrades users' disks by 10GB"
TFTFY
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Don't worry. Once you sell that screenplay you're always working on at Starbucks, you'll be rolling in money!
Or you can just turn off automatic updates. Don't be a drama queen.
Yes, it disables all automatic application updates and alerting, because that is what the OP was bitching about.
If you want to customize it more, then you enable "automatically check for updates," and select any combination of the four options provided:
1) Download newly available updates in the background (You will be notified when updates are ready to install);
2) Install app updates;
3) Install OS X updates;
4) Install system data files and security updates;
You can turn on automatic checks, and disable all FOUR of those things, meaning you'll just receive alerts, and can pick and choose what to install; OR, you can opt to enable any combination of those features as you prefer.
So no, you're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, unless you choose to. Enabling the alerts is required - which seems sensible, given that you're asking the computer to automatically check for updates, and it's hard to know there's anything to do without enabling alerts. Beyond that, you don't have to download or install ANYTHING you don't want to.
Windows 10 update was a "Recommended Update" and not an optional one.
Windows 10 changed the dialog box so that users had to specifically opt out of installing Windows 10.
Windows 10 installed itself without warning.
MacOS Sierra downloads if "Automatic Downloads" is enabled.
Does not install automatically
Users can ignore the download and not install
Having worked with OS X machines, this behavior isn't new. As I remember that as far back as Mavericks that it downloaded only if Automatic Downloads was enabled. And it asked for permission to install. Before that, the new OS X showed up as a notification and that you had to run Apple Update to get it.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Automatically check and automatically download are two separate settings.
You don't have to manually check.. You'll get a notification telling you that updates are available and asking whether or not you want to install it.
Yes, because we should all make it as hard as possible to get security updates
Turning on automatic updates *doesn't install them either* you numskull, they would just be downloaded... what is so hard about downloading them when you see them? Until you are living in a hut in Alaska and you only go into town once a week for the internet, that should not be an issue or delay you from updating in any way whatsoever.
This whole article is just the most absurd thing to complain about I have ever seen.
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I tried filing a radar a while back, stating all Apple employees were idiots. It got closed as 'Reproducible' but no fix.
Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers? That surely made a lot of people furious.
of course... but what does that have to do with the macOS update that you can choose to ignore? surely you aren't baiting me or conflating clearly different approaches to a situation, right?
you know what does make a lot of people furious, bullshit summaries that try to bait people, exactly like this summary.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
This was my preferred method of receiving updates in Windows when I had that option, Vista, 7, 8.1, before 10 disabled the function. I don't understand why comparing a function removed from Windows in version 10 to Windows 10 makes any sense.
At least you can upgrade your Mac. Microsoft pushed out the Windows 10 Anniversary Update over the weekend and it wouldn't install because the installer thinks my SSD was a USB memory stick.
I miss my Mac. *sigh*
No matter who does this, or why, fuck you. If i want a major upgrade of my OS, i'll ask for it.
No, if you want notifications, then you enable the "check for updates," selection, and then disable all of the "download in the background" and "install updates automatically" options.
Jesus, do you even Mac? You people are bitching about features that are trivially visible by bringing up your App Store preference panel. Either you're not actually a mac user, and just piling on to some imagined shortcoming of Mac os x, or you're literally the world's DUMBEST mac user.
Yes, I use a tethered cell phone to connect to the Internet at home. I know I have automatic downloads turned off, but it will still bug me everyday. And if you choose the wrong option, it will download it for you and burn through 1/3rd of my data for the month.
I won't even get into how I make sure that my third party apps, USB3 expresscard, and NTFS need to work when I upgrade.
I am thinking Apple hasn't been paying its media extortion money lately, there's been a lot of nonsense like this.
Upgrade your MacBook now for 25% less battery life and a slower overall experience!
Maybe for you. I haven't noticed any difference at all. Honestly aside from the shared clipboard between my Mac and my phone (which is very cool) I barely even notice any differences at all.
- Vincit qui patitur.
By the way you insult everyone, it's clear that you are a Mac user.
Send them a bill. After a couple of months of non-payment, take them to small claims.
Re: Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers?
No, I do not remember, because I'm a Mac user.
20:12 / 20:02 his Windows machine had told him it would reboot itself for an update.
The time passed and he mentioned how it hadn't restarted for that and I told him that maybe it didn't do that if one was playing a game. .. but surely enough Windows like the idiotic authoritarian knows better shit-product it is rebooted his machine and he was gone from the team. We won 16-14 and he got a two hours ban from leaving the game.
I assume one can block that behavior with enough leet / admin / group setting skills but the normal user settings don't let you do that, all you can do is set a 12 hour working period and that's it and beyond that Windows reboots whenever the fuck it wants to if it wants to. Why should you be the master of your computer after all?!
The problem is that this granularity still isn't sufficient. There's a big difference between downloading a SU and downloading a major OS release. Most people do want to automatically download minor SUs that are typically binary diffs against the previous release (i.e. tens of megabytes). Lots of folks do not want to automatically download major OS releases that are measured in gigabytes.
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Totally agree.
This is not an "update," it's an UPGRADE.
By how simple you are you must be a windoze user.
Yeah even iTunes will do that on windows...no matter how I try disabling that crap
I *WISH* iOS 10 would only bug me every few weeks to install it. At least 3-4 times every day when I am unlocking my device I get that damn prompt asking for my passcode so it can install overnight!
Shared clipboard?
So everytime you copy something, it's uploaded to iCloud?
What part of "4) Install system data files and security updates;" versus "3) Install OS X updates;" was not clear? Either or BOTH of these may be selected.
Jesus christ, READ before you form an opinion that you've just got to share with the world! You can opt to install ONLY security updates, or you can install ALL updates.
No, but they tried a Mac out for all of three minutes at their local Best Buy store and that makes them experts.
this is precisely why many people buy macs, in three minutes you have it all figured out and you can get to work.
If you want vital updates suppressed, the solution is easy. Switch to Android. All updates are suppressed upstream, and you don't have to worry your little head about it.
Solved it for you.
Have you tried ejecting it and re-inserting?
So everytime you copy something, it's uploaded to iCloud?
No, it's only shared locally with devices that are on the same LAN, and logged in to the same user account. Also, it's encrypted before transmission.
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
That should be disabled by default. I'm really getting sick of this opt-out shit.
Make sure you don't need it before you update.
Yes, yes - PPTP needs to go into the trash bin - but there are devices that do not yet support L2TP or IPSEC (I'm looking at you Ubiquiti).
Interesting that you picked VMWare Fusion, because 8.5 is a free update...
Well why did you do a damn fool thing like buy a piece of shit Windoze machine then?
I mean, I've been an Apple guy since 1982, there was never any reason to use that garbage except to remind yourself how bad it is.
Apple computers are priced similarly to other major manufacturers' computers.
Yes, they're more expensive than build it yourself. No, Apple does not compete in the low end.
But in general, for comparably spec'd hardware, Apple is very competitive.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
By how thick you are, you're definitively an Amiga user.
Especially when their Laptop is connected to their mobile device and their shit-tier wireless provider charges them 5$ a GB
I love how these dimwits constantly assume that Apple is bad at security, even after they were willing to go to court for it against the FBI. Laughable. Apple is the only company provably adequate at security.
Does it fix SMB issues often encountered in mixed OS networks?
My Mac is too old to run Sierra... Oh, wait...
There is no important reason to automatically download updates. You're basically throwing out the dirt with the bathwater.
Well why did you do a damn fool thing like buy a piece of shit Windoze machine then?
My 2006 Black MacBook died after eight years. I shifted everything over to my gaming PC for a while, and then over to a $250 Dell laptop. I haven't found a worthy successor to my MacBook yet. I don't find Apple's Quest for Thinness to be appealing.
SU stands for software update, not security update, and refers to point release updates, e.g. 10.12 -> 10.12.1. They almost certainly aren't included in that bucket, or if they are, then it is very poorly named.
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Lol. Get real internet looser. Fuck. I do that only in an emergency. It's not meant to be the fucking main internet connection. There are devices for that. Fuck. Lol. Idiots deserve what they get. Fuck!
I have been a long time Mac user, and Apple Mac/OSX/iOS/rainbow OS or whatever they call it today is getting shittier as time goes by.
is that you Jobs?
Where is the "alert me but don't download/install" option?
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I had to trick Apple into upgrading to 10.12 on a 2009 Mac Pro, it seems they don't want to support old machines that leave all their current offerings in the dust. The OS still supports it of course, since a 2009 is internally identical to a supported 2010, so you can force the upgrade anyway and have a "working" system (at least as far as OS X/macOS ever works, which is barely)
exactly, and most reports are that they saw no performance change and no battery life change.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Yes, iTunes comes with it... as well as a whole bunch of Apple stuff. Good thing is, none of it is adware/30 day demos/etc. It pretty much sits there quietly not bothering you. Unlike my experience with Windows 10 on my gaming rig... which keeps asking me if I want to install Office while I am in the middle of a gaming session! Then after uninstalling the "Get Office" app... only to have it reinstall after every OS update!!! WTF?! [sigh]
The post is comparing an old 2009 iMac with a SSD upgrade to a brand new Windows laptop (2015? 2016?). Yes, desktops to laptops is a an apples to oranges comparison... but you would think a 6-7 year difference would mean the laptop would come out on top.
I have 32gb RAM and 2x 2.8ghz Xeons, but my 2008 Mac Pro won't run Sierra. Why the hell not?
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
I'm running a 2011 15" non-Retina MBP as my primary laptop, it's a really good machine. The 2012s are great too. The black MB was a great machine, I had one years ago, but the pre-Retina Pros are even better.
You can sometimes luck into one for pretty cheap.
There's no comparison between this behavior and what MSFT did with Window 10. The system preferences for the App Store lets you specify whether you want automatic downloading done, automatic installation of downloaded apps, and/or automatic installation of OS/X updates (and I'm not even sure a new version of OS/X counts as an OS/X update). And by default, IIRC, it doesn't install anything. Apple leaves you in full control of when or whether the update occurs. Windows, on the other hand, did its very best to nag you to death to install Windows 10, including ignoring your attempts to say "no."
In the final days of his life, my father's ability to use his computer communications were lost in a forced Windows 10 installation. It's time we identify these forced user environment desecration and destruction what it is: VANDALISM
Mafia$oft and crApple are industrial thugs, pure and simple.
??? Where do you see "SU" listed? The phrase "SECURITY UPDATES" is spelled out in the fucking control panel, you dipshit.
*sigh* It's the "Automatically check for updates" with "DOWNLOAD UPDATES" unselected. If it checks, and isn't told to download, it will simply pop up a notification saying, "An update is available!"
Why is this SO fucking hard for you people? If you don't use a mac, you're just bitching for no good reason. If you do use a mac, go open your fucking system preferences, and read the options available to you.
oooooh! Well actually I haven't dragged the old A3000 out in almost 10 years. I do still have it, an A1200, A500 and a Commodore 64. I enjoyed them all immensely since purchasing the C64 back in 1983. I did pull the 64 out briefly a few years ago to get a recipe off a disk I had stored. Over 20 years old that 5.25" floppy but it still worked. Now I mostly use Linux or a Mac although we have Win7 on the computers at work. Nice to see someone on here remembers Amiga users well enough to insult them!
SU was in my original comment that you replied to when you incorrectly claimed that there was an option to install SUs without installing major updates.
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