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The Microsoft Band Is Dead (zdnet.com)

Microsoft's fitness-band line of devices have not be very well adopted over the years. Last month it was reported that Microsoft will be killing off the Lumia brand in favor of a new Surface Phone brand. Now, it appears the company is discontinuing its Band devices, as it has removed all references to them from its Microsoft Store listing online. Mary Jo Foley writes via ZDNet: A tipster who asked not to be named showed me a cached version of the Microsoft Online Store listing from yesterday, October 2, which included Band devices; today, October 3, references to the Band devices are gone from the company's Store sites. Microsoft also removed the Band software development kit (SDK) today, which isn't surprising given it's no longer selling Band 2 devices. Microsoft is believed to have disbanded the software team that was looking to bring Windows 10 to the Band a couple months ago. I've gotten various tips that at least some of the Band hardware team members have dispersed, too, with some moving to other Microsoft hardware teams inside the company. Even though sources of mine have said Microsoft is planning to phase out its fitness band devices and to have no plans to roll out a Band 3 device any time soon (or likely, ever), company officials still haven't completely conceded that it's the end of the line for Band. I asked again today and have yet to get an updated statement from the company regarding when and why Band devices were removed from Microsoft's online stores. A spokesperson sent me the following statement: "We have sold through our existing Band 2 inventory and have no plans to release another Band device this year. We remain committed to supporting our Microsoft Band 2 customers through Microsoft Stores and our customer support channels and will continue to invest in the Microsoft Health platform, which is open to all hardware and apps partners across Windows, iOS, and Android devices."

58 comments

  1. Typo in the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    brand*

    1. Re:Typo in the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol

    2. Re:Typo in the headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wish...

    3. Re:Typo in the headline by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I thought it was something that involved Bill Gates on the drums, Nadella playing guitar, Ballmer singing (and dancing, naturally...)

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  2. Any buyers? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I got a Zune Band with Clippy built in.

    1. Re:Any buyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if it's compatible with Microsoft Bob.

    2. Re:Any buyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got Microsoft Asteroid, so at least my joke is from this decade!

    3. Re:Any buyers? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Some Preparation H should heal it up

  3. DISBANDED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *Nelson Muntz style* Ha ha!

  4. Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by jo7hs2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I bought a MS Band 2 to replace a Basis B1 after Basis basically dropped support for the B1 the moment the Peak was announced, and also broke a number of promises, etc... I picked it because it had the best sensor package around, even including a UV sensor. I found it very useful. I also found it very flawed. My band was replaced FOUR times under warranty due to cracks in the non-replaceable band at where it met the device. Microsoft was very good about replacing it, but it just never really solved the problem, just bought me a few more months of use. The magnetic attached charger also had some issues, and the software has always been a little buggy...especially syncing with the app...which right now includes claiming the battery died and the clock reset basically every few hours. It was a brilliant sensor package hindered by lousy industrial design. When my band breaks again, which I'm sure it will, this means the end for my Band.

    1. Re:Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And I was just started to getting interested about the device family! Apparently MS has too little patience for the consumer electronics market, or I'm too slow a potential customer. A couple of Sony engineers still refurbishes the Aibo robot dogs in Japan for mostly senior citizens, and some temples provide services for the souls of the dead Aibos. The product was discontinued 2006. MS has some lessons to learn before being able to remain in the market.

    2. Re:Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by jezwel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And I was just started to getting interested about the device family! Apparently MS has too little patience for the consumer electronics market, or I'm too slow a potential customer.

      They've stuck it out with the XBox, but otherwise seem to be abandoning whole areas where they have little market share:
      * music players (understandable with mobile phones on the rise)
      * mobile phones - declining
      * wearables - out

      IMO the mobile & PAN devices such as wearable will continue to grow and become more complex. Microsoft abandoning these is a strange decision.

    3. Re:Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      Its not just hardware.

      Games for Windows Live!
      Games for Windows Live again
      Was there a third one? Nevermind, no one cares.
      Silverlight
      Xbox Media Center (had a better run than some of them, but they got bored all the same)
      I'm sure there's plenty of others, those are just the ones that spring to mind.
      A lot of these things seem more like they were weak gambits to hamstring a competitor than actual products MS wanted to sell.

      If a Microsoft product doesn't take off pretty quickly, they'll abandon it and leave you holding the bag. They have shown repeatedly in recent years that they don't have the patience required to fight it out in a market that has competitors. The logical response to any new Microsoft initiative is to ignore it until you can't, because its only at that point you can begin to believe that they'll continue to support it.

      Microsoft seems to be oblivious to this effect they're causing. They say they want apps for their latest Windows phone whatever its called. But they keep resetting because their late to the party also ran didn't immediately steal a huge chunk of marketshare from two established mega corporation backed platforms and they're convinced they just need to start again to win. How many times do you think you can burn the people that actually want to develop for your platform before they stop trying?

    4. Re: Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Isn't XBox Media Center an open source project now called Kodi or are you taking about something else?

    5. Re: Excellent sensor package, terrible design... by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I meant Windows Media Center

  5. Microsoft Hardware - Never supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember the first smart watch? The Timex data link watch that you needed a CRT screen to use, and then it was found it couldn't work with LCD's so they released an add-on part for the PC to make it work.

    Every time you invest in bleeding-edge Microsoft things, you get burned. Eventually this is going to happen to the Xbox.

    1. Re:Microsoft Hardware - Never supported by dejitaru · · Score: 2

      Every time you invest in bleeding-edge Microsoft things, you get burned. Eventually this is going to happen to the Xbox.

      Uh... xbox brand is 15 years old, I hardly consider it "bleeding edge microsoft thing", especially considering the 'xbox one s' is merely an upgrade to the original xbox one...

      Whenever you purchase any bleeding edge technology you have a higher chance of getting burned that with technology that's been around for some time, it doesn't matter if it's a microsoft product, an apple product, or a damn tamagotchi. It is a risk that you either choose to take or not.

    2. Re:Microsoft Hardware - Never supported by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Uh, Microsoft Lumia is still up there on there site, and there's nothing about a Surface phone

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/

    3. Re:Microsoft Hardware - Never supported by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      It remains to be seen if the surface phone is anything more than the product of a few people's imagination. My opinion is that Windows on phones is dead. Whether Microsoft will admit this or not is probably not relevant in the end. Intel flinched and stopped dumping Atoms into the market at less than cost. They've given up, which puts Microsoft in a worse position now. And they already looked pretty hopeless.

    4. Re:Microsoft Hardware - Never supported by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I think the wrong initial architectural decisions that Microsoft took cost them, plus their determination to try and converge devices. Had the Windows 8 platform been there during the Windows Phone 7, they might have done fine. Both the 8 and 10 were/are fine as phones, but all the fiascos around first Windows 8, and then Windows 10, succeeded in dumping the reputation of the entire platform.

  6. The what now? by Fwipp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I didn't know about this product before today. I guess it's the new Zune.

    1. Re:The what now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too, never heard of that band either. I guess they should try promoting their new stuff instead of spying on their users and alienating their existing customers by forced OS "upgrades". Or perhaps people do not actually buy new stuff from a vendor who has pissed them off?

    2. Re:The what now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thought exactly - everyone who cares about fitness (not me) has a fitbit thing. No clue M$ made one too. -T

    3. Re:The what now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's too bad. It was great! I had v1 and v2. It has a ton of sensors and is compatible with droid, ios and win. Read sms, mail, face, twitter, etc. There's even a button for cortana which let's you use voice commands like a smart watch.

    4. Re:The what now? by DrXym · · Score: 1
      I saw it on sale on Amazon last Christmas. I was semi-tempted to buy one at the price but I allowed my better judgement to overrule my impulsive side.

      I'm sure it would have been a reasonable for what these bands are but the reality is they all have really shitty battery lives and are tied to online / cloud like services. I don't see the point of buying something which is subject to the whims of a big business or the precariousness of a smaller one. If the cloud service is discontinued they're basically useless.

    5. Re:The what now? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I saw it in 2014, months before Apple introduced the Apple Watch. They were taking pre-orders, so looks like it might have been an initial hit.

  7. Anyone else by burtosis · · Score: 1

    Read it as "the Microsoft brand is dead"? It was a letdown reading the rest of the story.

    1. Re:Anyone else by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      That you could readily read the headline as "Microsoft brand is dead", is a pretty solid indication that it is dying and anything M$ is being seen as uncool, distasteful, perverted, and really quite off. Windows anal probe 10 is really putting the tiny limp in micro soft advertising. Even a relatively popular product ends up with a bad nickname XBone, now that just so tiny limp ;D.

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  8. Zune I've heard of, this not even a whisper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like MS doesn't do well in the design or advertising side of things. But they do deliver on product (I know wrong forum for that comment). Where as Apple gets design and advertising but lacks on product delivery. Maybe the two should marry with Apple no longer focusing on software because they fail miserably at that and MS can let Apple do the hardware because they suck at that.

  9. Re:Not reading the BIBLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft Band, obviously.

  10. The Microsoft Band Is Dead by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dammit I never even got to hear them in concert.
    I heard all their songs are just obvious but worse copies of other more successful bands music though.

    1. Re:The Microsoft Band Is Dead by Pseudonym · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:The Microsoft Band Is Dead by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      P.S. Made you watch it!

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    3. Re:The Microsoft Band Is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was bad. Awful. Horrendous. Unforgivable.

      But no worse than actual Bruce Springsteen.

    4. Re:The Microsoft Band Is Dead by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      That video is just sooo wrong on so many levels.
      Do even MS sales droids actually go for this shit?

    5. Re:The Microsoft Band Is Dead by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      To be a good sales droid you need either no sense of shame, or the ability to fake it convincingly. Still, I suspect a fair number of them bit their tongues and smiled along politely.

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  11. They did not stand a chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putting BIll Gates on drums was always a bad move.

  12. Boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't usually like MS products but this one met all my requirements. It integrates with my fitness pal. I can select my workouts and specific cardio options for calorie counting.

    Now I have to hope Samsung catches up...

  13. Greatest hit of The Microsoft Band by Snufu · · Score: 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    What will all the groupies do now?

  14. The same Mary Jo Foley by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    who actively tried to sabotage OS/2?

  15. "Fitness bands" are a fad by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Fitness bands" are a fad, anyway. MS is smart to get out of them sooner rather than later. "Fitness bands" are something that out of shape people use for a week, then toss in a drawer, somewhere, never to be seen again. People who exercise on a regular basis don't need to know heart rate and all of that other silly stuff, unless they're seriously competitive athletes, which is, of course, a tiny market.

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    1. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 2

      "Fitness bands" are a fad, anyway.

      I agree. Remember when the Wii came out and there was sudden hype that I was going to get people up and physically active? Yeah. Didn't happen. Turns out people who want to do sweaty activities do sweaty activities.

      The fitness band product has two places: as a tool for people who ultimately don't need them, and in the same room as the dusty treadmills and weight sets people buy and never use.

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    2. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As people get older, the recommended maximum heart rates drops. Maximum rate can be safely reached at 18-20 years old.

    3. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same with the Summer of Pokemon Go. Remember the "news" about how some teenagers discovered that walking can cause pain in the legs? I still haven't figured out whether the kids were trolling.

    4. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People who exercise on a regular basis don't need to know heart rate and all of that other silly stuff, unless they're seriously competitive athletes, which is, of course, a tiny market.

      Except people like tracking themselves. Data tracking as a fad has run for the best part of 20 years. I wouldn't discount it early.

      As for not needing to track your heartrate, that ignores all of this talk of "fatburning zones" and "cardio zones" and all this other wonderful stuff researchers are selling us. Before declaring the one device to monitor the "zone" dead you need to invalidate the concept, which doesn't appear to be happening right now.

    5. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with you 100%. I recently bought one because a girl tricked me, and I find it mostly useless. Unless you are a professional athlete or have crappy health and need to be monitored, you don't really need one.

    6. Re:"Fitness bands" are a fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't say that you're wrong...on the other hand, apparently when that tracking costs the same person hundreds of dollars out of pocket for a device to do it...all of a sudden their curiousity mysteriously vanishes!

      I think most people who have been in the tech industry for a while knew the whole "smart" watch thing was stupid out of the gate. The battery life wasn't going to be great in the first generation anyway (never is), it was one more device that people have to charge (in addition to the phone, the tablet, the laptop, the controllers for a game console maybe). The prices weren't exactly stellar, though if fitness tracking was all you were interested in you could get some good buys. Apart from that there really wasn't any point to the things, if people wanted an Internet connected device with everything including an on-screen clock...they could just use the phone they've already got and skip buying the hundred dollar crippled version...

      Why did people buy these things again? Surely it wasn't to track their mental health in any capacity?

  16. Band on the run? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lasted as long as Wings.

  17. It's dead? Good! by Chas · · Score: 1

    Stupid, useless one-not products like this are an absolute waste of time, development hours and money.

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  18. Re:It's dead? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's actually pretty neat. Has a few smartwatch features and lots of sensors.

  19. Taking a cue from Google... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS kills HW like Google kills SW.

  20. The Mi Band is useful and cheap by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    What's a fad is all these expensive devices with crap battery life. The Mi band does all the fitness (and sleep) tracking for $20. Now that's something you can just get for fun, and if you don't find it useful, pass it on to someone else. Personally I like mine. Making people buy $200+ devices with yearly upgrades? Of course that won't last.

  21. Netcraft confirmed it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has Netcraft confirmed it?

  22. The Band is Dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great. Now what I am I going to use to cover my Zune Tatoo?

  23. My experience with the Band. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    The Band is the perfect example of Microsoft's ability to come up with a great product but completely botch its execution.

    I owned the first gen for a month before returning it. The thing actually died within that first month due to the ingress of sweat, and that was without doing any strenuous activity. I didn't want to be stuck with something this prone to failure, but the actual functionality was fantastic. It worked well, and it had GPS.

    So when the Band 2 was released I decided to get that, assuming and hoping that issues had been sorted out. The device is definitely much improved, but there have been two major issues. One is the band tearing and the second is some kind of battery failure. I experienced the second issue 6 months in and got a replacement. As others have mentioned, getting the replacement was effortless, but these kinds of problems shouldn't be happening at all.

    The big frustration for me, however, was that smartwatch functionality never worked properly between my Lumia 950 and the Band. You'd figure that Microsoft's own devices would work with each better than with anything else. I've since gotten an iPhone, but continue to use the Band, and it works reliably like it never has with the Windows phone.

    It really is a joke how Microsoft is incapable of getting their shit together to make reliable products. It's also disappointing that so many opportunities have been squandered. The flaws aside, the Band is a fantastic device.

  24. Doh! by CommanderRyalis · · Score: 1

    I misread this as the Microsoft "Brand" is dead, nevermind

  25. Disbanded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see what you did there.