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Julian Assange: All That Malware On Wikileaks Isn't a Big Deal (vice.com)

WikiLeaks celebrates its 10th anniversary today. At a press conference, its editor Julian Assange hinted that Wikileaks could soon disclose more things about the U.S. election. Making use of the occasion, Motherboard asked Assange about the malware that Wikileaks website contains. To which, Assange responded (via Motherboard): âoeThe [Hillary] Clinton campaign has been going around saying 'don't read Wikileaks, because there's malware,'" Assange said in response to a general question about malware on the site from Motherboard. Talking specifically about malicious files that were included within a recent dump of emails from Turkey, Assange emphasised that there wasn't an issue for users who just visited the site, and that people needed to download the files themselves. "However this same risk exists for most '.exe' or '.doc' files downloaded elsewhere from the internet or received by email. As time goes by we flag documents to alert readers," a print-out given to journalists at the press conference reads. Assange even thought that the presence of malware itself was noteworthy. "There was malware sent to [the ruling Turkish party] AKP, either from criminals or from state attacks on the AKP. That's extremely interesting," he said.

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  1. Sensible enough to include but warn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't put words in his mouth. He didn't say 'no big deal'. The gist of what he said was more that, for security researchers and people interested in this sort of thing, having the malware available for analysis within document dumps can prove a fruitful line of enquiry, and people downloading and extracting these dumps are unlikely to be the mouthbreathing 'hurr durr an exe gotta run it see what it does' idiots.

    Doc files, I can see some merit in providing two dumps, one with any autoplay macros neutered. Or at least, putting a massive great warning reminding researchers to take care.

  2. Re:Julian Assange is a KGB Agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dang it, where's my "mod inciteful". All I have is insightful.

  3. WikiLeaks is pretty good at trolling. by wiredog · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Re:WikiLeaks is pretty good at trolling. by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Assange made it clear he'll carry on with the leaks over the next month, so I'm not sure it really means much he didn't today.

      Whether any (a) will actually be of substance, and (b) will affect someone who, frankly, has had so many BS allegations made against her that if she was found with a dead hooker in her closet tomorrow we'd be wondering who planted it there, remains to be seen. Her opponents have apparently never read the story of the boy who cried wolf.

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  4. This is smearing by Dagmar+d'Surreal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We don't like click-baity, misleading, and misrepresentative headlines here. They're disingenuous and you should be ashamed for having snuck this one past the editors. It should come as a surprise to no one that the mail spools of gov't officials would contain malware, because they're just bound to be targets for spearphishers. To people who can manage to examine files without uncontrollably clicking on them until they execute, this malware poses *zero* threat. ...and yet here this headline and article is, trying to make it sound like WikiLeaks has been in some way *infected* with malware that is a danger to visitors of the site, and that Assange is improperly and unprofessionally downplaying that threat. Whatever Clinton is paying you, it's not worth it. Your integrity is worth more than money.

    1. Re:This is smearing by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh, what is misrepresentative here? The website hosts files that contain malware. Just because you expected it did, doesn't make it not a threat. Do you think journalists who are downloading the files are viewing them in a VM sandbox? Most likely they are now infected with malware. If you visit Wikileaks then you are likely going there to get these files. Most people who read those files are going to get infected because most people aren't going to take precautions.

  5. Re:Democrat misinformation by norweeg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Misinformation? They leaked emails containing malware targeted at the people they were originally sent to. Rather than adopt any kind of editorial oversight, wikileaks is a firehose of irrelevant (emails to/from targets family), not-newsworthy (SSNs of donors whose names are already public record), privacy invading (names of gay Saudis, where homosexuality is punishable by death), and occasionally malware-laden (because why not target malware at high-profile politicians), leaks with only a few nuggets of anything of interest delivered with transparent animus and bias

  6. Re:The Internet by Kierthos · · Score: 5, Informative

    But if he's got an important leak, why didn't he make it? Instead, they were hawking books. He's turning into an infomercial.

    Don't get me wrong, I think if he's got an important leak to make that would affect the election, I think we should know about it. The problem is, Trump is hiding a bunch of shit as well, and that information could affect the election, and Assange is basically giving him a free pass. (For the record, I consider both major party candidates to be terrible. But Trump is getting away with all kinds of things that would sink any other candidate because the media is in love with ratings.)

    And hell, I honestly consider Trump to be the more dangerous candidate when it comes to a free and open press. Hell, he's said he wants to make it easier to sue publications if they publish something he doesn't like.

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  7. Re: Too much bias ... by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, editorial review is what would inttoduce bias. They're not journalists, and they're not really activists, except in the narrow realm of information trandparency - they're a data source. Sure, there's a lot of noise with the signal, but thats why other organisations that *are* journalists filter through it and provide editorialised opinions on it.

    Don't make wikileaks into something its not - we need an open data dump more than we need someone selectively picking the facts that support their position and rolling them up into an article. We've already got plenty of those.

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  8. Whose side is he on? by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He's definitely biased, but i'm not quite sure yet if he's anti-Clinton, pro-Trump, or just pro-watching-the-world-burn.

    Unless they just came into the info in the last couple months they should have released any damning revelations they had about Clinton during the primaries when it might have helped Sanders win.

    At this point however the only realistic options are Trump and Clinton. And honestly even if wikileaks did have proof that the Clintons make a habit of murdering their political opponents (citation needed oh so very much) i'd still probably vote for Hillary. Trump doesn't know what an act of war is, he doesn't know how treaties and alliances work, he thinks nuclear weapons were made to be used, and he has a propensity for letting his temper get the better of him at 3am and lashing out. If he gets elected i'm honestly worried that the world might end in a nuclear fireball.

    From a pure game theory standpoint in this situation i'd far rather hold my nose and vote for a known murderer who also happened to be skilled at international politics.

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    1. Re:Whose side is he on? by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I was in my teens for Reagan and the start of the first Bush administration, so my memory of what was said about them is pretty fuzzy. But i don't recall a big deal being made about nuclear war being made, and that certainly wasn't my biggest concern during either the election for Bush 1's 2nd term or either of Bush 2's terms.

      But Trump has said that he's okay with using nuclear weapons offensively:
      https://thinkprogress.org/9-te...

      Trump has also said that he won't guarantee defending our allies, which is potentially a very destabilizing action:
      http://www.nbcnews.com/storyli...
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-...

      He said during the first debate that attacking an Iranian ship would not start a war. (To be fair, doing so wouldn't _definitely_ start a war, but almost identical actions have been considered acts of war in the past and could easily be considered so again, so saying that it definitely wouldn't is 100% wrong.)
      https://www.washingtonpost.com...

      And i can find any number of references for the off the wall stuff Trump has posted on twitter at 3am, in fact there has been analysis presented here on slashdot about the emotional tones of his tweets then vs when his staff is in charge:
      https://politics.slashdot.org/...

      Now normally i wouldn't say "this person acts unhinged on twitter, therefore they'll end civilization." However he has stated himself that he's willing to cause turmoil among our allies, which will lead to politically unstable situations, he's said himself that he's willing to preemptively use nuclear weapons, and he's said things that seem to indicate he doesn't know what is and is not an act of war.

      If you combine that with the kind of temper and tendency to get unhinged when he feels he's been attacked or insulted that he's demonstrated both in real life and in his late night twitter sessions, i feel that it's reasonable to be very concerned.

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  9. Re:Democrat misinformation by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thus far Assange's big leaks have been little more than damp squibs. There's going to come a point very soon when he's just going to fade into obscurity, locked in his embassy prison, and no one giving a shit any more. Snowden stole the torch anyways, and is a far less complex hero for those that want data to be free.

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