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Guccifer 2.0 Dumps a Bunch of Clinton Foundation Donor Data (engadget.com)

The hacker Guccifer 2.0 today released a large database of information reportedly stolen from the Clinton Foundation. The dump, Engadget reports, includes names, addresses, and emails of both individuals and corporate donors as well as their contribution amounts. From the report: This, of course, isn't the first time Guccifer or his friends at Wikileaks and the Kremlin have attempted to subvert the US political process during this election cycle. Just last month Guccifer released Democratic Vice Presidential nominee, Tim Kaine's personal cell phone number. What's more, nearly half of the country's state voter registration systems have recently come under cyberattack, according to the DHS, though the FBI has not yet determined if those breaches originated in Russia. There are also a number of unanswered questions regarding Republican nominee, Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks. Four House Democrats recently demanded that the FBI investigate the nominee after he "jokingly" suggested that Russia find and release the 33,000 emails reportedly missing from Hillary Clinton's private email server.

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  1. Well that was a well balanced summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I particularly liked:

    There are also a number of unanswered questions regarding Republican nominee, Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks

    So we're to understand that Trump is running these hacker groups? Hey, I suppose that's better than Hilary who can't even run a secure email server.

    I'm also interested in these "unanswered questions"? I suspect the reason they're unanswered is because you haven't asked them. You're just implying that something is amiss about Trump without actually saying what is wrong or making any allegations.

    1. Re:Well that was a well balanced summary by bobbied · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I particularly liked:

      There are also a number of unanswered questions regarding Republican nominee, Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks

      So we're to understand that Trump is running these hacker groups? Hey, I suppose that's better than Hilary who can't even run a secure email server.

      I'm also interested in these "unanswered questions"? I suspect the reason they're unanswered is because you haven't asked them. You're just implying that something is amiss about Trump without actually saying what is wrong or making any allegations.

      Oh you know what this is... It's an attempt to paint those "unanswered questions" in as bad of a light as possible in order to cast Trump (or his operatives) in a bad light to sway votes.... After all, it's the seriousness of the charge, not the evidence that supports it that maters (Unless the Charge is WJ Clinton sexually assaulted some woman, then it's ignore any evidence and start making stupid statements like "It depends on what the meaning of "is" is. )

      It's like going up to mild mannered "Bob" and asking him "Hey, Bob! When did you stop beating your wife? Huh? When Bob? Answer me Bob, this is a serious situation Bob, when did you stop beating her?"

      Of course the questions are unanswered. Trump had nothing to do with it, unless you think because he can tweet stupid stuff at 3am means he's somehow a brilliant hacker with the DNC as his target... Why bother to answer some stupid baseless charge?

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    2. Re:Well that was a well balanced summary by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but can you honestly say that there are no unanswered questions for Trump?

      I have a question for you - when the list of the Clinton Foundation donors gets leaked online, why are you talking about unanswered questions for Trump? Isn't this story about Clinton? Because I can think of at least one question for Clinton - how did the database of donors for The Clinton Foundation get stolen? Where and how was it being stored? Those are a couple unanswered questions right off the top of my head, maybe you can think of some more.

      It seems like the summary kind of takes this track:

      The Clinton Foundation donor database got leaked.
      Russia has been trying to subvert the US political process!
      Nearly half of the US states have had their voting systems attacked! (but we don't know if the Russians did that, and we don't even know if it's connected to the Clinton Foundation database leak)
      There are "unanswered questions" for Donald Trump.
      Four Congressmen want Trump investigated by the FBI.

      That seems like a weird direction to head off into when this is a story about the Clinton Foundation donor database getting stolen and leaked. It's almost like that small collection of facts are unrelated to each other.

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    3. Re:Well that was a well balanced summary by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is part and parcel of the childish maneuver to deflect guilt. It is pointing to bad behavior in a vain attempt to justify bad behavior. Basic logic of this goes something like this ....

      "You killed a puppy"

      "But Johnny killed a kitten, and got away with it, so should I"

      Whenever you see "Trump did ______" and someone answers "Clinton did ______" in response (and they aren't pointing to a third alternative), they are guilty of this childish maneuver. Personally speaking, this is why I can't vote for EITHER of the two idiots running on the major party tickets.

      This isn't good for Clinton, and it is no surprise that they want to make it about Trump somehow. Once you understand that it is the same crap kids try on their parents, you realize that we're dealing with children who are over 18 years old.

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    4. Re: Well that was a well balanced summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only election fraud we know that has happened has been on the behalf of Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary.

  2. Desperate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Guccifer or his friends at Wikileaks and the Kremlin"
    Just tell us what happened without participating in the propaganda will you? This is embarrassing for all reporters.

  3. What a crock by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He implies there is some sort of correlation to banks making donations, and tarp funds being distributed. Does $1000 seem like an appropriate bribe for a billion dollars? And since when does the secretary of state have any impact on where tarp funds are distributed? And what's the freaking point when this money is used for charity anyhow, it's not like they are buying paintings of themselves with it.

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    1. Re:What a crock by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not quid-pro-quo, it's a charitable donation. A write-off for the donors. It's certainly much less fishy than Trump donating 25K to the Florida AG who was investigating Trump U and subsequently dropped the case.

  4. Re:At's all fun until.... by Dread_ed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they are influencing our elections by providing that elusive and oft promised but ne're delivered Obamian transparency, undermining an entire administration's corrupt miscarriage of justice, and finally serving up the goods from a 10,000 unfulfilled FOIA requests, then GOOD. We need to be influenced. More influence please! Influence the shit out of me and everyone else! HARDER!!!

    If exposing the truth is detrimental to one of the parties that might be something the electorate deserves to know, you know, before the election.

    Besides, I ordered a shit ton of Jiffy Pop from Amazon in preparation for the culmination of this election cycle. /popcorn GO!

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  5. Re:Nice spin by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    do you think it is worth mentioning the servers have a folder on them called "pay to play" or a spreadsheet tracking banks that got TARP money's large donations to top Dems? Or a file called "Wall Street money by committee" or a file tracking donors to Hilary's campaign?

    You're very close to the truth, but you're ignoring the obvious. You honestly believe that a guilty party is going to put evidence into a folder called "pay to play"? Or, "Wall Street money by committee"?

    I'm surprised there's not a folder called, "Evidence against Killary". You've been had. Again.

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  6. Stop blaming the Russians by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about how Russia is trying to "subvert our election." Annoyed enough to bother logging in and not posting AC.

    Yes, we get it, there are nebulous rumors of how the Russians are trying to "subvert our democracy." But it's just fluff: the bottom line is that what Hillary and the Democrats have done is at best unethical, if not strictly illegal.

    Who cares who revealed it? If they weren't acting unethically, there would be no issue. But they are, and that's why it's a problem, and trying to bring Russia into this is purely a smokescreen.

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  7. Re:Authentic by um...+Lucas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it was in Bruce Schneiers most recent newsletter, that there is always the risk of something artificial and damaging being added to otherwise original, authentic material, on the basis that if 99% of it it's true, it would be nearly impossible for anyone to say that other 1% isn't true either. Maybe it wasn't him, but I definitely read it somewhere and it really was interesting food for thought.

  8. Re:Lost emails by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually she had a duty to preserve all documents related to her job as SoS. Of course, she conveniently forgot that she had any such requirement due to a head injury, of which she is still suffering effects. All of which should keep her out of any position in government for the rest her life, but people like you continue to try to minimize the crimes she has committed.

    As for having ANY classified email on her home brew, basement dwelling server is also a crime (she sent and received )

    As for deleting her server after it was subpoenaed is ALSO a crime.

    If she is investigated for murder, it won't be because of some kid having SIDS in Kansas. There are plenty of murders of people that she was quite familiar with, which might have some relationship to her. Cute though.

    Trump has his own issues, and people limited to binary choices rarely choose well. Vote 3rd Party.

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  9. Re:Charity? by jasnw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the American Institute of Philanthropy, which gave the Clinton Foundation an "A" rating, the Clinton Foundation spends only 12% of the money it raises on overhead. Politifact has a good rundown on this: http://www.politifact.com/trut... . Do some research before making wild claims, don't just go with wisdom from the blogosphere.

  10. Subvert? by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Informing the public about who's paying bribes to which Ruling Party candidates isn't subverting the process, it's benefitting the process.

    -jcr

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  11. Re:one foundation but not the other by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pretty sure the IRS is PERFECTLY capable of catching and dealing with people caught cheating with their taxes. This is a non issue.

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  12. Re:Lost emails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually she had a duty to preserve all documents related to her job as SoS.

    She had a duty to delete confidential material. She did as required, and is accused of a crime of deleting documents, when she was required to, by law.

    No, she has no such duty. Her duty is to stop using the machine and hand it over to the appropriate security officers to investigate the extent of the leak.

    Stop just making shit up. It does nobody any good to just spout lie after lie after lie. I can see why you like her so much, though!

  13. Show me the guilty verdict by s.petry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Trump did not follow the law it would have been prosecuted and we would have a verdict. There is no such thing, and that fact bothers the shit out of people like you who find facts an inconvenience.

    From 3 pages of taxes in the 1990s we have gleaned 1 fact, that Trump took a loss. Everything else is speculation. The one troll I saw on a similar post yesterday simply denied facts and claimed that the 90s were some great economic boom. Again FACTS can be used to prove that troll wrong.

    Meanwhile, Hillary is guilty of several laws which the FBI has simply refused to prosecute her for. We know that the FBI gave complete immunity to staffers, the guy who setup and ran the Exchange server, and his boss had a secret meeting with the suspects husband and former ex President the Friday before the Monday dismissal. We KNOW that the DNC has been colluding with mass media to promote Hillary and we know that they used their influence to shove Bernie down in the elections.

    I have plenty of things I could complain about with Trump too, but with all the media bullshit there is no way my complaint would ever be viewed as valid. Telling a crowd that maybe they can protect their 2nd amendment rights was turned into "Trump claimed Kill Hillary", and Trump satirically saying "maybe Russia can release those emails she deleted" became "Trump claimed he wanted Russia to hack America", and the Russian influence in the DNC and Clinton foundation are ignored, but "Trump loves Putin".

    It is so contrived I honestly no longer feel like I'm living in my own Country.

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  14. Re:Lost emails by ichthus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She had a duty to delete confidential material.

    You're just making shit up. The problem for you is, her narrative has been that she didn't know any of it was classified -- the "I was too stupid" defense.

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  15. Re: Lost emails by AK+Marc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ah, so you can't refute the facts, so you insult the speaker. I'm not a Democrat, and I'm not voting for Hillary. But that doesn't mean I can't recognize the lies and hypocrisy of the Hillary-haters.