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Indonesia Wants To Criminalize Memes (dailydot.com)
While the United States has the First Amendment to justify the spread of memes that may ridicule political figures for example, the Indonesian government doesn't. In fact, it is looking to criminalize internet users for posting memes. The Daily Dot reports via Jakarta Post: Its Electronic Information and Transactions Law (ITE) punishes any electronic media communication that incites fear or embarrassment under its defamation article. The public has continuously called for the article's removal, but instead Indonesia is introducing more restrictions to freedom of expression. Posting memes, texts, pictures, or videos would be punishable if found to have a defamatory or slanderous tone. According to the Indonesian government, this provision stands to prevent and control cyberbullying. But it can further be used as a political tool against opposition during elections. Since its implementation in 2008, 200 people have been prosecuted according to data from the Southeast Asia Freedom of Expression Network. Among the most notable cases, was the prosecution of Prita Mulyasari in 2009 for complaining about Omni International Hospital services on an online mailing list.
The majority (~87%) are Muslim. This is not a coincidence.
We're about to get this too. Can't let a feeling be hurt, can we?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
is a meme.
A meme is any discrete unit of culture. Good luck banning that, idiots.
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According to the Indonesian government, this provision stands to prevent and control cyberbullying.
Apparently only government controlled cyber bullying is allowed.
It seems to be working just fine in China.
This deplorable lack of self-confidence is common in Muslim countries. In the West we think it's laughable, but it goes to such extremes where bloggers are targeted and killed - see Bangladesh, for instance.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
It's just a more blunt version of what the American left is pushing under the guise of punishing "harassment" and "triggering" language. Exhibit A, the behavior of Twitter where constantly referencing a left wing user is considered punishable speech, but doxxing and threatening the "right" teenage girl with rape and murder will never land you in trouble.
And that's just social media. Students are getting expelled from universities left and right for simply expressing their opinions. Many of them, in the context of classroom discussions.
What Indonesia is doing is just a more open and raw version of that. They have no culture of freedom of speech. Our culture is collapsing because of all of the pedants and obnoxious creeps who feel the need to constantly interject "the first amendment does not protect you from private consequences" (thanks for the clarification poindexter). Because a culture of free speech cannot survive such minimalism. It is only a matter of time before people demand that the political and legal systems conform to the popular understanding and culture surrounding the limits of speech.
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I'm so tired of hearing this bone-headed phrase repeated by people who haven't taken two seconds to think it through. 100% freedom would mean allowing arson, rape, murder and a thousand other behaviors that we currently ban. You want to go back to prehistoric caveman days? Because that's the only time when that sort of freedom existed.
In order for society to work, you have to recognize the rights of other people and their rights limit your freedom to do whatever you want. We accept lots of limitations on our freedom with the understanding that the other people around us accept those same limitations. The end result is what we call civilization.
He needs to be careful not to milk that meme too much. Indonesia has the death penalty. The steaks are too high.
Human Rights, Article 12: Freedom from Interference with Privacy, Family, Home and Correspondence
Freedom either is 100% or is not. Freedom at 99.99% is not freedom.
Not at all. You can be more or less free.
I detest all these idiotic absolutist concepts, that divide everything into absolute categories. By eliminating all gradiations, you end up lumping everything together. "In Connecticut you can get a ticket for littering if you drop a cigarette butt on the ground, therefore Connecticut is just as bad as Nazi Germany, they're both authoritarian states."
No. There are shades of difference.
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First they came for the Harambe, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a handsome gorilla.
Then they came for the most interesting man in the world, and I did not speak out—
Because when I do, I do it silently.
Then they came for nutsack squirrel, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not have big nutz.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Mustard Man
âoeWho knew something as harmless as willful ignorance could end up having real consequences?â
I know this is a slippery slope but I for one would love to see Meme's disappear. If you are unable to articulate your thoughts in an educated manner then you really have no place at the table.
At this rate our communications will devolve from Memes back to Hieroglyphics. "Dewd she schooled you, she showed you the *bird* "
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
Good thing ICANN is still under the control of a country that respects free speach. I would hate to see a country like Indonesia have any say over Internet censorship.
I detest all these idiotic absolutist concepts
All of them?
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All of them?
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Like any Muslim country, Indonesia is better off w/o political freedom, if the ruling regime is a secular one. If it is a 'free' country, that freedom translates into freedom of Muslims to persecute Christians, Dayaks, Buddhists, Hindus, and any other non Muslim community living in the archipelago. See Aceh for instance. If it's an authoritarian Islamic country, then Singapore and Australia are screwed. If it's an authoritarian secular country, like it was under Sukarno and Suharto, it's fine.