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Apple's Use Of 'Sapphire' in iPhone Camera Lens Questioned in New Tests (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Apple has been using sapphire on its iPhone camera lenses for a few years now since the launch of the iPhone 5S, but it might not be as scratch resistant as you'd expect. A new video raises questions over Apple's use of sapphire in its iPhone camera lens, and includes scratch tests to rate its durability. While Apple claims it uses sapphire crystal in its iPhone lens, tests by YouTuber JerryRigEverything show that Apple could be using a more cost effective sapphire laminate on top of regular glass. JerryRigEverything tested Apple's iPhone lens with an XRF machine and electron microscope, and concluded that Apple doesn't use pure sapphire in its lenses. The underside of the lens contains less sapphire than the exposed part, and a scratching comparison with a Tissot sapphire watch showed that the lens cover will scratch at a level 6 on Mohs Scale of Hardness, compared to level 8 for the Tissot watch.

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  1. People misunderstand "made with sapphire" by Kichigai+Mentat · · Score: 5, Funny

    No no no no, people are totally misunderstanding what Apple means when they say their stuff is made "with sapphires," not "out of sapphires." Like when I say "I made this with my friend," there's a chunk of sapphire on the factory floor that people work with, like an pet rock.

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  2. Hard enough? by Aaden42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did pulling it out of my pants a few hundred times a month scratch it? No? Good. Guess it was hard enough.

    Oh... And my phone's okay too!

    1. Re:Hard enough? by KiloByte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Did pulling it out of my pants a few hundred times a month scratch it?

      Try having your keys in that pocket. The reason for screen hardness is not scratching by cloth or by a booger-damp tissue but with the most notorious hard item often carried in pockets. And despite Wikipedia claiming iron having a hardness of 4, steel of 4.5, it is enough to scratch a typical smartphone screen. Thus, a sapphire screen would be a major win -- if it was true.

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    2. Re:Hard enough? by morethanapapercert · · Score: 3, Informative
      Keys aren't commonly made of steel and haven't been made of iron since the abandonment of skeleton keys for general use. Most keys are brass or aluminium with both being ~ a 3 on the Mohs scale. ( I use Mohs here because we're talking about contact with alleged sapphire and gemstones are usually rated on the Mohs scale, not Brinnell, Rockwell or Vickers) Thus a key should just skate across a smoothly polished screen surface if it indeed sapphire. In fact, if there are existing scratches on the screen glass, those scratches should mark the key!

      There are two caveats though:

      1) This only accounts for the keys themselves, not the spring steel keyring that is almost universally used to organize keys nor any keychains, fobs or charms.

      2) There are several aspects lumped together under the term "hardness", scratch resistance, rebound hardness and resistance to deformation under a static load. A materials rating under the Mohs scale doesn't cover all of that, so only gives you one part of the picture. And as far as I know, no general purpose hardness test covers glancing/gouging impacts where the velocity of impact is as an equally important component of the tests. A straw can embed itself in wood if it's going fast enough after all. (velocity of the impacting object IS quite important in armour testing, so those tests are careful to take speed and angle of impact into consideration.

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  3. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sapphire is 9 on Mohs scale. If they measured 6, then it is ordinary lens glass.

  4. Re:Did Apple say it was pure sapphire? by blane.bramble · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite. Welcome to marketing, where the language is both very precise and very loose at the same time.

    A point in case, does:

    "A first for Company X"

    Mean that Company X is the first in the world to do something, or just that this is the first time they have done it, and others may have been doing it for years...

  5. Re:And yet, consumers are silent. by Shimbo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Other than perhaps a Kardashian, no one is carrying around diamonds in their pockets to scratch their pseudo-sapphire iPhone lens.

    If it is only 6 on the Mohs scale it means that it will be scratched by quartz, so if you have dirt in your pocket it may get scratched.

  6. Sapphire crystal lens cover by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you check their website Apple states 'Sapphire crystal lens cover' in the specs of their phones: http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone... , so if you are trying to scratch the underside claiming sapphire, then you are probably doing something wrong?

    Is this a non-story or did I miss something?

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    1. Re:Sapphire crystal lens cover by GuB-42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that when you try to scratch the front side, the force transfers to the back side and cause a visible and permanent scratch even though the front side stays smooth. It is shown in the video.

  7. False advertising regardless by grimJester · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they imply it has hardness 9 like sapphire does and it only has 6 that's false advertising. In practice that's the difference between being scratched by sand or not.

  8. Re:Just a hunch by sl3xd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think optics would be the problem: It's impact resistance. While it's great for scratches & abrasions, sapphire is easy to shatter & crack.

    When you have a lens that sticks out of the phone, impact resistance is probably something to consider.

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