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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store (kapeli.com)
Popular API documentation browser Dash was pulled from the App Store this week after a routine migration request, its developer Bogdan Popescu wrote in a blog post. He said the migration was successful, but some features in iTunes Connect weren't available during account migration, Apple warned him. Later in the day, Apple sent another email saying the app has been pulled because of "fraudulent conduct," and did not offer any explanation. From the post: Today I called them and they confirmed my account migration went through and that everything is okay as far as they can tell. A few hours ago I received a "Notice of Termination" email, saying that my account was terminated due to fraudulent conduct. I called them again and they said they can't provide more information. Update: Apple contacted me and told me they found evidence of App Store review manipulation. This is something I've never done. Apple's decision is final and can't be appealed.Apple blogger Federico Viticci said. "This seems like a major screwup. Apple dev relationships should fix this soon." Marco Arment, the co-founder of Tumblr and founder of Instapaper, said This is a story with two major paths: Either the developer did something to deserve the rug being pulled out from under, something worthy of their developer credentials being cancelled. Or there's a colossal misunderstanding here. I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye. Either way, don't think this is the way this should have played out.
I pose this as an open question as I'm really not sure. So many reviews are obviously faked now (good and bad) that you can't usually rely much on overall ratings, and have to read the real reviews... you can quickly tell which seem more real than others.
So I wonder if apps should be pulled even if they are gaming the system...
That said I really doubt this guy was gaming the app reviews. But it's hard to say now that we can't look at them.
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Of course they matter! Now more than ever!
Perform review manipulation on your COMPETITOR and get them removed from the marketplace!
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The fact that you're asking is why Apple has been taking a pretty hard line lately. Zero tolerance (cause that always works well) to try & reign in the garbage and restore some kind of faith in the review process.
You might be a moron and i'm not going to care how you got screwed.
It's also pretty easy to spoof addresses and identities, as least so far as list monkeys and standard management scripts will be fooled every time.
In an attempt to gain attack surface malware spreaders will bang pretty hard at any input they can find. Having your developer account attacked/hijacked is pretty common.
Often this activity is mistaken for other malicious behavior and can get your account terminated.
Of course they matter! Now more than ever!
Perform review manipulation on your COMPETITOR and get them removed from the marketplace!
This is a real problem, obviously, with the security-through-obscurity system that fraud detection partially relies on. If they disclose precisely why they believe there is fraud, they help fraudsters in the future--but also will catch some false positives. There is also the business case--it costs money and time to seriously investigate and review a fraud detection case, and arguably it increases legal exposure.
Real lawyers write in C++
Has anybody tried to use Apple's new developer documentation website?
And those were just the first few P1 showstoppers that I noticed. This site should never have gone live even for WWDC, much less for non-beta content. It just isn't anywhere *near* ready.
I'm not sure what the Dash app does or how it works, and I'm not sure if it actually improves things in those areas, but between their main developer doc site train wreck and this story, it really feels like Apple has become actively antagonistic towards developers. What the heck is going on over there in Cupertino?
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It's called "being dashed".
You buy into a locked in ecosystem and encourage a single gatekeeper...
It's like having 15 RAID disks plugged into one computer that has the encryption key. If that computer goes down, your 15 RAID disks are useless.
At least if he was booted out of literally any other apps store, he could:
a) sell it by himself.
b) sell it on alternate app stores
c) give it away for free.
Apple has always been this way.
... upset about being walled off. Tiny violin.
> I'm glad Apple maintains a higher standard...
I'm glad Slashdot moderators maintain a higher than allowing your swill.
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Dye Bye the App Store
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Dash is awesome, it doesn't need it's reviews to be padded. And the author is incredibly responsive, getting back to me on twitter questions really quickly. Sad to see what has to be a screwup by Apple cost the guy $$$.
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It is not reasonable to have faith in a system where public decisions are taken for secret reasons which result in well-known public disastrous outcomes.
Other than faith that the results will be terrible.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Either the developer did something to deserve the rug being pulled out from under, something worthy of their developer credentials being cancelled. Or there's a colossal misunderstanding here.
So what you're saying is that either:
A.) Apple had a good reason to pull it.
or
B.) Apple didn't have a good reason to pull it.
Astounding deduction!
As an independent the Apple eco system is a minefield.
You can't base a business on an environment that is so perniciously hostile.
If they don't like what you're doing it's off with their head, if they really like what you're doing they just might steal it.
You also get to pay through the nose for the privilege of being treated like crap.
I knew to avoid them.
Its the same with paypal. You can get a mail saying the same stuff and you are out for good. Even your wife and kids get booted there. If someone sets themselfe in such a leading market possition they really should ve anwserable to someone. Being stonewalled and booted out is just the worst thing that can happend and you ha e no chance to explain or try to sort out what happend.
... then assuming they are not wrong about evidence of app store review manipulation, it must be possible for independant parties to create such an appearance, and a less than ethical person could potentially use such measures to sabotage the apps of his competitors, since Apple's decision is final, and there is no appeal process.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
What about all the devs booted who didn't get their situation onto Slashdot or the tech media?
Seems wrong that if Apples algorithms screw up then your ability to earn a living disappears. Too much control, its an Apple disease.
There used to be an app for that!
This can happen to anyone on a centrally controlled registry where arbitrary exclusion decisions can be done anytime. Luckily for the developers they could still offer the macOS version for download on the free Web.
Couldn't a competitor to Dash manipulate the reviews to make it look like Dash was guilty of manipulating its reviews.
The mind bogles.
And was Dash one of the Gun men on the grassy knoll at the Kennedy assassination.
>I'm not sure what the Dash app does or how it works
It is an application that lets you easily pull in documentation for hundreds of libraries and languages for offline reading and searching.
I find it immensely useful. I use it to keep the docs for for pretty much anything I have ever used (languages, libraries, tools). Pulling the documentation in is a case of typing in the name and clicking on the thing you want.
I comes into its own if you travel on planes and find that an ideal time to do some uninterrupted programming.
I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
Preparations for the landing of Mothership....
Good news! It is still available in the debian repos:
$ apt-get install dash
Developing for Apple is increasingly becoming a pain in the ass. Between their draconian App Store policies and busted-ass development tools (Xcode 8 & Swift 3), I'm seriously considering moving to Android for future mobile projects...
So would you call that a joe job or a Steve Job?
Thanks to the War on Drugs, it's easier to buy meth than it is to buy cold medicine!
This is what you get for playing in the walled garden.
If the garden's owner decides you're done, poof, you're standing at the gate and they're telling you to fuck off and go away.
It can be for any reason or no reason.
Of COURSE Apple has their reasons. But do you expect them to truly be HONEST about it?
Basically two scenarios here.
First, Apple's decided they dislike the tech/functionality this app is using/exposing. So they're killing it with fire as an unsubtle message to other app devs to Do Not Do This.
Second, Apple's decided they like the tech/functionality this app is using/exposing. So they're killing it with fire so that, down the road, they can create an app of their own, with similar functionality and claim to have invented it.
Either way, Apple fuck-yous an independent developer.
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THANK GOD!!!
The permanence of a decision and lack of review is too damn common, from Apple to even the likes of Care.com
.. the way it usually does, like a petulant child. Dash totally embarrasses the Apple dev docs and so cannot be allowed to live. Lying about it also par for the course with Apple.
With my cynic hat on, I have the sudden urge to start a betting pool on how many months it will be before Apple releases an offline doc viewer app.
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Well it sounds like there was a manual component to their process, so I guess it would be called a ... oh, nevermind.
it really feels like Apple has become actively antagonistic towards developers. What the heck is going on over there in Cupertino?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Those "gett 1000 folovers, just 5.99" services can start making a new offer to produce clearly-false reviews? :)
I hate this oft-reeated axiom so much. It is glib and nonsencical. The simple truth, is that often things are malicious.
I've just spent four days on the phone with Apple.
I work for a school.
We have iPads. Lots of iPads.
We were blocked by their automated system for reasons unknown, so we couldn't create iTunes accounts, given that it's a few weeks into term this is our device roll-out period.
Four people from Apple, from four countries, and four days later, I was still no closer. I'd been told I needed to sign up for Beta/Preview services in order for it to work now, then that the school wasn't eligible for that exact service, then we were but I had to provide contacts of the IT Manager (me!). When I did, they then refused it because I hadn't included a verification contact. Did the verification contact need to be anyone higher? Oh, no, I was perfectly capable of signing the forms necessary - I just needed a random employee. So I added the cleaner. Yep, they then accepted it.
It was then discovered that that WASN'T the problem at all. Four days of shouting, I got one guy who "would lift the restriction on our domain for 30 days". Great. What about the rest of the year? No, they can't do that at all, ever, for anyone. Agreed to at least get it working for now - more paperwork. More bullshit. To sign up student iTunes accounts into a school domain for what is quite clearly a government-authorised school in the UK.
In the end, I'm just preparing my record of the entire farce to pass to senior management. Google have offered us an iPad buy-back scheme where they'll take in our hundreds of iPads and give us Chromebooks instead. Our Chromebook trial was a raging success after the shit that was an iPad rollout and we have nothing but trouble with Apple.
I told the Apple guy on the phone that they don't care about education, they don't even HAVE an education line you can call in the line (he literally confessed they don't even have a number they can publish for that team), and when you call on the published numbers, it takes FOUR DAYS to get through to the guy who can actually do the bare fucking minimum of what you need to do and nothing else. He was utterly powerless and useless, there's no escalation and no customer service that I can see at all.
I told him I needed something longer-term if I'm going to plan deployments like this. He said he wasn't able to commit to anything like that. Game over.
I wouldn't mind but I inherited the iPad deployment and we have very expensive MDM and Mac servers and everything you need. And yet all we EVER get from them is hassle and people on support lines that know nothing and can do nothing. I would never have chosen them.
Hell, their Apple School Manager "preview" (i.e. Beta) that they forced me onto - you can't even create users that can download a free app. You can't customise the user types. You can't even turn the users off (it takes 30 days for a user you "deactivate" using that to disappear, and in that time nobody can create another with their same email). And their "student" user cannot download apps - not even the approved MDM apps that push the paid-for apps. It basically is incompatible with any third-party MDM, so it's useless.
Apple way or the fucking highway, and no care for anything slightly different to what they TELL you you will have.
I've honestly had enough of them to NEVER voluntarily deal with them ever again, and I was never too pleased with them in the first place.
Show a friend the tool you work
He installs it from store
Likes it
reviews it.
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Tool gets pulled from store!
Win!
If the system was a stupid as you, any competitor could removed rival products with ease. Try engaging your brain before spouting childish rubbish.
I think Dash was driven by the terrible interface to the API documentation that is in Xcode. In particular, the search function sucked donkey balls.
Dash is an app that provides a far better interface to the Apple developer documentation than Apple does. They've also expanded it so that many other documentation sets are available and you can do searches across doc sets. So, for instance, I have the Xcode, Swift and Objective-C documentation. I also have the Java 8 API, bash, vim, Python etc etc etc documentation.
Dash is one of the most popular apps amongst developers of Mac OS and iOS software. I can't imagine the suspension will be allowed to continue for long.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
Who pays any attention to the reviews anyhow? Unless they're extremely low, I get most of my info off sites (iTunes Store OR Google Pay), then just check to see the app hasn't been absolutely panned. And I routinely hit the cancel button when bothered for a review.
When nominally essential apps (e.g. Facebook, etc.) are hitting 3-4, but everyone has them, that should tell you something.
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If the system was a stupid as you, any competitor could removed rival products with ease. Try engaging your brain before spouting childish rubbish.
Oh, the irony....
Also removed from the Apple App Store:
Mrs. Dash /.
Daesh
Slash (the musician)
The OSX Trashcan
I get the hard line. What I don't get is the secrecy from Apple. They should at least give the guy the complete report of what he is alleged to have done.
That Apple walled garden sometimes appears to be populated only with thorns and nettles, with watchful guards positioned in towers at every corner. Ugh.
Kafka covered this well.