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WikiLeaks Posts 2,000 More Emails From John Podesta (cnn.com)
WikiLeaks has released an additional 2,000 emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta -- the second leak in four days. The first leak contained thousands of emails from Podesta, including apparent excerpts from Ms Clinton's paid, closed-door speeches to Wall Street executives after leaving her position as Secretary of State. CNN reports: The emails appear to be mostly from 2015, covering a litany of policy and strategy discussions between Clinton staffers on how to handle issues of the day and the press, including the release of the book "Clinton Cash" alleging nefarious activity by the Clinton Foundation. Another email has long-time Clinton aide Doug Band referring to Chelsea Clinton as a "spoiled brat." Doug Band emailed Podesta and longtime Hillary Clinton aide Cheryl Mills about a damning story about his consulting company, Teneo, by lashing out at Chelsea Clinton. "I don't deserve this from her and deserve a tad more respect or at least a direct dialogue for me to explain these things," Band wrote. "She is acting like a spoiled brat kid who has nothing else to do but create issues to justify what she's doing because she, as she has said, hasn't found her way and has a lack of focus in her life." The emails also revealed that Clinton wanted to respond more forcefully to "Clinton Cash," the 2015 book that looked to connect Clinton Foundation actions and decisions made by Hillary Clinton's State Department. According to an email from another close aide, Huma Abedin, Clinton wanted to tape a straight-to-camera video responding to the allegations. Clinton campaign responded to the release by slamming the Trump campaign for "cheering on a release today engineered by Vladimir Putin," after Trump adviser Jason Miller tweeted a link to the document page with the phrase "And here...we...go."
Deny Deny Deny, Distract, Distract, Distract. Sorry folks, but if you are just now waking up you may want to go back to sleep. Politics is full of criminals and criminal actions, each trying to cover up for each other. The media has been in on the scam, as has been Department heads in charge of prosecuting wrong doing.
It's going to take me a while to read through this lot, I'm not done with the last dump. You can bet your ass the Media won't bother with this, because 11 years ago Trump said the P word. For the people focusing on that instead of actual political corruption, you deserve what is planned by the Left.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
This. If this was in any other normal election cycle against a normal opponent, this would be hugely detrimental to Clinton and would cost her supporters and party investment. However, against Pussygate headlines and an imploding Republican party, it's not even enough to crack front page news.
The trump tape is over a decade old and occurred when he was a democrat. CBS was waiting for the right moment for maximum effect ... just like the KGB and wikileaks.
trump said mean things, that clearly is more important than clintons scandals
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I would probably be a spoiled brat too if I had been raised by parents who taught me that political power is the only thing that matters, and that it can buy you out of any moral responsibility.
It probably also wouldn't help if everything in my life were just handed to me because of my parents' political clout, without me ever having to actually earn anything on my own or even having get a real job that wasn't just handed to me on a silver platter.
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Maybe they could wait until there was one with something actually interesting? Clinton didn't like a book that was critical of her foundation, and someone else doesn't like Chelsea. Assange is doing a major disservice to people who don't want to see Clinton elected by burying any potentially juicy details under this constant drip of boring non-news. Where is the email where Clinton brags about how she can grab any guy's dick anytime she wants because of the implication? Where is the email where she boasts about sucking at her job so badly that she doesn't have to pay taxes again?
I read the internet for the articles.
Have you ever considered that it might be for a reason (and not just massive conspiracy)?
Judging by the summary, there's nothing of substance in this release, just some petty bickering and some predictable discussions. What makes any of that newsworthy?
It doesn't "crack front page news" because the "news" has been in the tank for Hillary from the get-go.
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As soon as President Hillary Clinton is in office Assange will be a dead man. The ecuadorian embassy will be stormed or destroyed. Any opposition by ecuador will be silenced by military force. Wikileaks will be shut down and anyone who has donated money will be rounded up and punished. And that will be the end of it.
Why? It's not like anything on Wikileaks has been more than a nuisance to her so far. And storming a foreign embassy in another country would do more harm to her than anything Wikileaks has done thus far. However it wouldn't surprise me to hear that Mr. Assange is eventually found dead from suicide, or choked on his dinner.
Hillary's husband can rape as many women as he wants with Hillary attacking the victims and the cat ladies would continue to vote for her.
When her "good friend" Trump met with Bill Clinton, THEN he announced he was going to run, I said, ok, it's over. I started to prepare myself for her to be president (yuck!). Trump was only in this to knock out any other Republican, using his "celebrity" status, and, it worked. He got all the attention, and the others just died on the vine. Now, it won't matter if you caught Hillary on HD video, with a gun in her hand, murdering a small kid in a wheelchair, then laughing because the media would cover it up. Between the media, and the amount of illegal votes that Hillary will receive, she'd have to DROP DEAD before being sworn in, to not win the election. She's been appointed, and the elections don't really matter...their corporate masters are the ones who appoint them. The general election is nothing but a farce. And why shouldn't it be? The "public" pays more attention to the TMZ types, sports types than they do politicians, who, have a greater impact on our lives than anything else. We don't live in a democratically elected republic anymore. It's more akin to what Russia/China have, than anything else.
Proof? I'm still waiting for the explanation as to how the hacks and leaks have been tied to the Russians. To date, this is all still conjecture and/or assertion without any credible presentation of evidence to back it up. Until I see it, I'll just [safely] assume this is an act of desperation by team Clinton to try to tie Trump to the Ruskies. Pathetic, weak diversion.
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is the press office of the KGB. Only releases information that is useful to russia.
If America didn't criminalize transparency and persecute whistleblowers, then the Russians wouldn't have a monopoly on the flow of information.
Due process. You got evidence please release it.
We've got tens of thousand's of people pouring over all these emails and no one can find ANYTHING that could be submitted in a court of law?! But everyone knows she is corrupt... Meanwhile, we've got the other confessing to sexual assaults and it's just "saying things"
Stay in school kids!
Maybe you should blame your party's leadership for their own actions instead of the people who are revealing their actions.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
Well, he can't live in his Ecuadorian mother's basement forever.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were helping make these leaks, whether by breaking into the computers, connecting the data thieves with leaking organizations, bankrolling those organizations, or whatever.
But even if they did all those things, the real questions are (a) is the content true, and (b) if it is true, why do we need the Russians to reveal it?
Julian Assange's October Surprise. Hillary will have to drop out now that an email has been leaked from someone calling her daughter a 'spoiled brat".
The American People must not stand for this.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Wait, Snowden — hiding in Russia is a hero for his exposes, but Assange — hiding in London — is a "KGB agent" for his?..
The only known instance of an American politician covertly seeking Russian help in exchange for favorable policy changes is that of Ted Kennedy (struggling against Ronald Reagan) — the Democratic "lion" and otherwise a hero of everything Progressive.
Secretary Clinton lied yesterday, when she claimed, Trump is the first to be accused of collaborating with Russia. And, while accusations against Trump are completely unsubstantiated, those against Kennedy are backed by the KGB's archives...
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The trump tape is over a decade old
That the Trump tape is a decade old is a datum back from that era. Comparing Trump then with Trump now shows that he has not changed during that time. That is independent of who ever released the tape.
I don't know if I subscribe to the conspiracy theory that this was all orchestrated for maximum effect before this debate. You'd think that if this tape was common knowledge amongst various people that Billy Bush would have used it to help his cousin Jeb out during the primaries.
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She's got Goldman Sachs and most of corporate America paying her. She's outspending Trump by a ridiculous amount and it's not making a difference. Trump has one thing and one thing only going for him. He's not Hilliary Clinton, and for nearly half of American voters that's all he needs.
I find that highly unlikely in the first place, as the timing for a "big one" is not "two months from now" but rather urgently needed by Trump *right now*. Even if they do have something, given the rather suspected source of the documents I think that if they time a really juicy email to appear right before the election it's going to be dismissed as fabricated, and proving it ain't so will take time that just isn't there.
So: don't keep your hopes up. Clinton may be skating the edge of the law, but given the evidence so far, that's it. A bit like Trump, really, except in different areas of the law.
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If you think people are upset because Trump used the word "pussy," you're completely missing the point.
People are upset because he basically confessed to molesting women, then talked about trying to hook up with a married woman, then bragged about how people with power can do pretty much whatever they want, which you may recognize as the line of thought that is used to criticize the legal treatment of Clinton. It's pretty much the profile of a rapist, even if he hasn't gone that far, and it should alarm people, because he shows no remorse, doesn't even seem to realize that there's anything wrong with what he said or did.
That would be such a good argument if Trump hadn't been fat shaming women, telling people to go hunt down porn and talking about a newswoman bleeding out of her "whereever" in just the last few weeks.
Unfortunately for your argument, Trump's behavior has made it incredibly clear that he has not changed at all, despite his protests to the contrary.
Why not? The mainstream media refuses to do so, but sure as hell runs every 11 year old "pussy" recording it can dig up.
Note: there is a difference between a presidential candidate saying he probably sexually assaulted a bunch of people and internal whining about the boss's kid. Yeah I know its all about relative expectations. So long as trump doesn't shit in his hand and throw it at a camera its a win for him....on second thought maybe thats a win too cause he's sticking it to the media.
... because it revealed things that truly matter to the freedom of the people of the US and the world. And yes, even because in doing so it put some people's lives in danger for what it and its supporters consider to be a good cause. Not everyone agrees to the latter, but at least the debate about what was right and/or wrong fundamentally mattered to the citizens of this world and will continue to matter for decades to come.
Nowadays, Wikileaks has degraded itself to being a mere tool in Assange's personal revenge vendetta against Hillary Clinton. He doesn't care about right or wrong (anymore).. All that he wants these days is to damage his personal enemy by any means possible and if achieving that implies potentially handing over the US nuclear arsenal and its economic power - and therefor the entire world - to a raging lunatic, then apparently so be it.
Now, if these leaks there would actually reveal a substantiated serious accusation... But no...The fact that Wikileaks now thinks that it must inform the world of the galactically shocking fact that someone finds Chelsea a spoiled brat says more about Assange's character and insignificance than it says about the Clintons..He used to get media attention by doing things that mattered. It seems that he as run out of such things, but can't accept that he too doesn't matter anymore and the media therefore moved on to other hunting grounds..
I'm no fan of Trump, but even if I were one, I would still hold the same opinion of what Assange is doing. Who wants to be president because someone considers the daughter of one's opponent to be a spoiled brat?
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“Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton supposedly asked, according to unidentified State Department sources.
Unidentified sources also told me that she gets off on killing puppies.
Especially with the history of people who've crossed the Clinton's ending up dead?
Might want to stop believing everything you read on Facebook.
This. If this was in any other normal election cycle against a normal opponent, this would be hugely detrimental to Clinton and would cost her supporters and party investment. However, against Pussygate headlines and an imploding Republican party, it's not even enough to crack front page news.
You mean the revelation that one of Clinton's aids called her daughter a "spoiled brat"?
It's not on the front pages because it's irrelevant. Not every leaked email contains a discussion of how they planned 9/11.
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Conflating issues are we? The pound being low has nothing to do with the current levels of political corruption in the UK? How about the mass of immigrants they are dealing with when jobs were already scarce? How about the massive increase in government programs to stifle free speech and spy on the populace? Oh but it's all because they left the EU, which was only half ass adopted in the UK to begin with right? Good grief.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
The trump tape is over a decade old
When he was but a wee 59 year old.
and occurred when he was a democrat.
Which is relevant how?
CBS was waiting for the right moment for maximum effect ... just like the KGB and wikileaks.
Maybe, though we don't actually know what the circumstances behind the timing were, it could simply be that it took a really long time for a) someone to remember the tape existed and b) to find it.
Either way I'm sure Ted Cruz wishes it would have come out a couple weeks ago!
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It probably does explain a lot of the confidential out-of-court settlements though.
"Confessing to sexual assaults" and no one can find ANYTHING that could be submitted in a court of law?!
Do you mean like the current rape lawsuit that Trump is involved in? The one that is about to go to trial? That one??
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The media is basically taking marching orders from the Clinton Campaign.
https://theintercept.com/2016/...
Its going to be on this, and no none of the below are going to break it.
The media is one of the strongest weapons in showing the world the devastating effects of corruption and shining a light on those who would use their entrusted power for personal gain. An independent and free media is a cornerstone of democracy and a crucial component of a healthy governance system.
Clinton has corrupted this and turned it into a propaganda arm for her campaign.
ABC,NBC, CBS,CNN, NY Times, Bloomberg,Vox, Huffington Post , People , New Yorker, Vice , Politico taking assignments from her campaign.
This should scare the hell out of the american people if they know their history.
Note some journalist declined her invitations , they are real journalists.
Glenn Greenwald broke the who Snowden story open and the NSA spying on everyone.
Glenn hates trump and hillary both but at least he is ethical.
#mediagate
Bill and Hillary have both been proven to be guilty, though the latter was given a free pass and the DOJ denied the ability to prosecute.
Complains about innocent until proven guilty and due process, immediately claims Clintons are guilty even though they have never been convicted. Such doublethink... frankly amazing.
Assuming the Russians have ALL of Hillary's emails (to be expected with her defenseless email server), why wouldn't they want her to win? How hard would it be to blackmail her into becoming Putin's puppet? If she loses the election, they squander the value of the work. If the Russians have a preference in this election, it's for a candidate who is easily controlled. Trump is utterly unpredictable, so it's hard to imagine why the Russians would work to promote him.
If (the original) Guccifer was a FSB asset, no way would he be extradited to the US. Based on what he revealed about Hillary's server, it could have been hacked by the Geek Squad from Moscow Best Buy.
No matter who these people turn out to be, they weren't the idiots who deployed the server, nor did they force Hillary to use it.
Blaming the Russians is just a political ploy to set expectations low. Don't expect anyone to get caught. Problem is, blaming the Russians isn't any more plausible than blaming the Benghazi attack on a YouTube video.
Yes, apparently at the moment of her swearing in, there will be a sudden nauseating shift and we'll all stagger for a moment before resuming our lives as jackbooted American Neonazis who have our embassy-cracking assault squads on standby 24 hours a day. Hillary will wear an eyepatch and have a long knife scar on her face, and all the men will have well-groomed facial hair. And we'll all look great in whoever is the spiritual successor to Hugo Boss! Sign me up, I wanna squeeze into a set of jodhpurs and strap on my pistol baldrics!
Dipshit, how about the Clinton Campaign giving assignments to ABC,NBC, CBS,CNN, NY Times, Bloomberg,Vox, Huffington Post , People , New Yorker, Vice , Politico.
Hint it is call propaganda then, just like you know in Nazi germany, and Hillary has done it even better.
You are repeating exactly what Hillary wants you to , now step into the shower.
https://theintercept.com/2016/...
(NOTE Glenn Greenwald is not on Faux spin news)
The media is one of the strongest weapons in showing the world the devastating effects of corruption and shining a light on those who would use their entrusted power for personal gain. An independent and free media is a cornerstone of democracy and a crucial component of a healthy governance system.
Clinton has corrupted this and turned it into a propaganda arm for her campaign.
This should scare the hell out of the american people if they know their history.
Note some journalist declined her invitations , they are real journalists.
Glenn Greenwald broke the who Snowden story open and the NSA spying on everyone.
Glenn hates trump and hillary both but at least he is ethical.
#mediagate
Hillary was also proven guilty by admitting she destroyed emails after receiving a subpoena from Congress which is at a minimum Obstruction of Justice. She is guilty of perjury again by looking at her own testimony where either she lied to Congress or the FBI Director did. Within the statues of the law, she is guilty of mishandling classified information. Proven by the FBI directory who for her case, and only her case, put a stipulation of mens rea on filing charges. NO other cases in the US have used intent as a stipulation for assessing guilt, NONE. Intent has not even been used in the sentencing of cases against US Military mishandling classified materials. Some of which were completely accidental (US Marine who found a paper in his laundry and turned it in only to be handed over to the courts).
Can we stick to facts please...
Hillary did not say that she destroyed email after receiving a subpoena from Congress. The guy managing her email destroyed the emails after being asked to remove personal emails months earlier but he slacked off and didn't delete them until later. The FBI found that there was no collusion. Even the Republicans in Congress couldn't find any evidence. Anything beyond that is just political grandstanding... unless you have hidden evidence to add to the discussion...
http://www.politifact.com/trut...
http://www.politifact.com/trut...
As for intent, historical court cases does not back up your assertion that intent was not a requirement for a successful conviction. Here is a good article explaining the previous cases:
http://fortune.com/2016/07/06/...
They were 'found in December, 2009.
Oh God the clown doesn't realize that politifact was busted working with the dnc in the dncleaks.
Assange doesn't even REALLY believe he's a target of America. If he did he would stop leaking this stuff. Anyone else remember when wikileaks said it would release documents about Russia? Then the Russian security service threatened them publicly? And then they haven't released any anti-Russia stuff since? Assange even removed anti-Russian documents from the Syria release.
Oh God the clown doesn't realize that politifact was busted working with the dnc in the dncleaks.
Everything that I typed can be checked against multiple news sources. But instead of fact checking what was stated you would rather attack the links provided and call me a clown. Do some homework yourself and maybe we'll listen to what you have to add to the conversation. Until then you are just name calling...
John Podesta says Hillary Clinton "lies" often , so she is Crooked Lying Hillary.
http://canadafreepress.com/art...
How can you tell If this story is real or was placed by the campaign?? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
There is no sudden and severe drop in the pound,
u mad bro? The pound dropped over 10% vs the dollar literally overnight. That is not up for debate. That is a verifiable fact.
Brexit was the smartest thing the people could do, because the whole of the Eurozone is tanking.
We are not and have never been in the Eurozone.
What do you do with 1,000,000 immigrants when you already have 9% unemployment?
The refugees from Syria and etc aren't going to stop coming just because we've had a referendum to pass a law that will in some currently rather non-specific way change a bunch of legal arrangements with our neighbours.
The levels of corruption in the UK today far exceed what I remember in the 80s and 90s which were at least similar to the US.
If the government is corrupt, how does handing them even more power via Brexit make the slightest bit of sense?
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I'm not pro-Trump at all and welcome future President Clinton, but this extreme campaign bullshit hypocrisy on both sides is more than annoying. (Don't get me wrong, it's same way in most other countries.) Maybe there are some male US politicians who have never talked this way in their life -- mormons, religious fanatics and extreme douchebags come to my mind --, but they surely are in a minority and nobody in his right mind would want to have one of those as a president.
I understand when some naive women are outraged about this tape, unless they happen to work as prostitutes women often have no clue what and how men are talking when they are among themselves (or how often and in which way they masturbate, to give another example). But the vast majority of all men knows better, and the hypocrites among them in both parties with their fake shock and concern really are just assholes. That's my opinion about them.
Maybe that's why I liked him so much. I knew he wasn't all bad.