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Amazon Showcases Twitch With a Massive Free Videogame (latimes.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: "Amazon.com's first big-budget video game is like street basketball, except played in a mythological world where athletes are armed," reports the Los Angeles Times, adding "Wait, Amazon makes video games?" Indeed. Two weeks ago Amazon Game Studios held their first live "unboxing event", and PlayBreakaway.com is now accepting sign-ups for alpha playtesting of their new Twitch-optimized team-based title, promising a game "made by streamers, for streamers." ("Taunt every interception, celebrate every kill, and highlight your dominance with instant replays...")

"If you think about what makes games so fantastic, it's the experiences you have with your friends," explained one Amazon Games official, in an interview with the Times Friday. "A long time ago it was in arcades, then over local networks, then online and now you have Twitch and e-sports and modding and cosplay. They are all about shared experiences."

59 comments

  1. Re:Better idea by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    I had no idea that William Shatner had a slashdot account!

  2. I can't hear! by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

    The marketing bullshit is deafening on this one.

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    1. Re:I can't hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twitch and e-sports and modding and cosplay

      That is read very fast to hide the fact that the marketer have no idea what the terms imply.

  3. LOADED MIT SPY SHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And it will turn you into a neut.

  4. Re: Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can't. If we go outdoors the mean jocks will beat us up!

  5. Re: Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not only that: we'll twist your arms so hard you won't be able to jack off for months. We'll stick your heads into unflushed toilets. And then we'll shit on your faces.

  6. Old school by Jon+Peterson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Taunt every interception, celebrate every kill, and highlight your dominance with instant replays"

    Yeah, because that's what games are all about. Amazon has seen the future of gaming and it's a 15 year old brat playing counterstrike, forever.

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    1. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what did you expect? they are all about mass market appeal.

      the irony of Amazon's first game being the actual, historical Mayan bloodsport is not lost on me, though.

    2. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's not just the stereotypical little shits playing counter-strike.. every online game, especially moba and mmo types, is filled-to-the-brim with toxic players, trolls, and immature turds. EVERY FUCKING ONE. this one will, no doubt, be no exception - it seems to be made specifically for them.

    3. Re:Old school by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Its far worse than that, twitch isn't about the enjoyment of playing games, twitch is about being seen playing the games.

      Twitch is to gaming, what instagram is to dining.

      I, personally, have no interest in twitch and rarely watch other people play games for any reason; i'd rather play than watch. So I have the same disdain for watching other people play games that I have for watching sports on TV. I could not care less.

      That said, I know lots of people watch sports for fun, and I'm not surprised lots of people now watch others play video games for fun. Whatever floats your boat.

      I expect though, that games literally designed to be steamed via twitch, will generally be as shit as those "free2play/pay2win games designed to extract as much money as possible from microtransactions. Because in both cases they didn't set out to make a great GAME, they set out to subvert the game to other goals.

      F2P games have shit timesinks and grinding and deliberately missing content in order to try and sell you shortcuts to the less shitty parts of the 'game'.

      Likewise, I expect games designed ground up for twitch will compromise the integrity of the game in service to ""Taunt every interception, celebrate every kill, and highlight your dominance with instant replays" -- like a restaurant that has no atmosphere because the lighting is set up to make instagram photos looks better rather than foster an intimate dining experience...

    4. Re:Old school by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      F2P games have shit timesinks and grinding and deliberately missing content in order to try and sell you shortcuts to the less shitty parts of the 'game'.

      And how do you suggest they make money so they can keep the game going?

    5. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CS is for old farts. Young brats plays CoD.

    6. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's amazon.. so Prime2Win?

    7. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about League of Legends?
      DotA2?
      Let's not put all F2P games in the same basket now. You have a point, but some companies execute the F2P model quite well, without ruining game integretity or competitiveness.

      On the actual subject though, this game looks to have decent potential in eSports. The pace seems a bit slow, but otherwise my hat goes off to Amazon for this one.

      -GP

    8. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Games with shit grinds are a perfect match for twitch.
      The thing with twitch is that it adds a social element between the streamer and the viewers.
      For a stream to become popular the streamer will have to interact with the viewers, otherwise they might just as will watch YouTube.
      Because of this games that requires concentration or the players full attention aren't that suitable for streaming. If a game is too heavy on the story part the streamer will typically have to ignore the story in favor of talking with viewers and then wonder WTH is going on in the games since he/she missed out on important elements.
      If the game is more of a mindless grind the player will be able to both play the game while interacting with the viewers.
      Of course that will meant that the game sucks for anyone who just wants to focus on the game.

    9. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Step 1. Stop making shitty games.
      Step 2. Make good games designed to be played and enjoyed rather than bullshitting it's way into profits.
      Step 3. Profit.

    10. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could...charge money for the game? novel idea.

    11. Re:Old school by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      The worst part about Twitch (and all of the other streaming sites) is the delay between the feed and the stream.

    12. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >F2P games have shit timesinks and grinding and deliberately missing content in order to try and sell you shortcuts to the less shitty parts of the 'game'.

      True for the most part, but it does depend on the game. Path of Exile, for example, is one of the very few F2P games that do it "right" in that all of their mtx is either visual or minor quality of life improvement - nothing that directly grants power/speed/content that any other player can get for free.

    13. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, personally, have no interest in twitch and rarely watch other people play games for any reason; i'd rather play than watch. So I have the same disdain for watching other people play games that I have for watching sports on TV. I could not care less.

      +5 bonus points for the proper use of "I could not care less".

    14. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was the head of a tabletop gaming group at my college. I had few rules, but the most important one that MOBA discussion is banned. No exceptions and you don't get told a second time.

      Why? Every time the subject came up, it just started fights. When one got physical I eventually put my foot down and said "From now on, anyone who mentions any MOBA, even in jest, will be kicked out" and I promptly made an example of a guy who decided to be a smartass. End result; membership went down a third. Worth it? Yes. The three worst things to happen to the gaming industry are microtransactions, MOBAs, and region locks.

    15. Re:Old school by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And how do you suggest they make money so they can keep the game going?

      1. Develop talent
      2. Make a game good enough that people would want to pay for it
      3. Profit!

      They're still stuck on #1, which is why their game is stuck in #2.

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    16. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See Path of Exile. F2P. No pay to win. Awesome game. Basically you can choose to pay for skins and additional inventory space. None of it is required to play the game or excel at it, but the game is done so damn well that after a while playing it, you start feeling guilty for not giving them any money and buy some stuff that you don't really need just to support them so they'll keep developing it.

    17. Re:Old school by trawg · · Score: 1

      F2P games have shit timesinks and grinding and deliberately missing content in order to try and sell you shortcuts to the less shitty parts of the 'game'.

      Possibly generally true but definitely not always true. I've clocked literally thousands of hours in Dota 2 - probably the most amazingly complete f2p game you can find at the moment.

      I've not spent a single cent on it to date.

      The revenue model for Dota 2 is about buying decorations for your characters and other in-game items. Some of these are amazing - like, they look fantastic. But I get to appreciate them because other users buy them, so I feel like I'm getting the benefit of them anyway.

      I have no interest in what my character looks like - I just play because I love the competition (mostly the winning part, anyway :)

      I agree a lot of the celebration/dominance stuff mentioned here does not sound interesting - to me it's just pointless frills that distracts from the game. But I do think it's possible to build a great f2p game that incorporates them, and I certainly am happy for people that care about that stuff to fund me playing it without having to spend any money!

    18. Re:Old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, many games today are simply too expensive (in hardware requirements, initial purchase price and ongoing subscription fees / dlc) for many of us to play. The only way we will ever see some games is to watch somebody's stream of it. I rarely watch twitch though, I can usually find vids of the games I am interested in on youtube.

    19. Re: Old school by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I think you'd have been better off if you simply banned the people who created tension rather than just saying no to moba. Common sense should tell you that if somebody is instigating physical conflict, then the person is at fault, not the topic.

    20. Re:Old school by JThundley · · Score: 1

      Sure there are some kids like that, but the channels with many views have views for a reason. They're pros that play the game(s) or organized tournaments. My favorite streamer Vibe has made over $32k in tournaments before becoming a full-time streamer.

  7. Amazon is going after every market in the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait until I can buy an Amazon pizza while wearing Amazon sneakers and chatting on my Amazon cell phone.

  8. Could you get any more obnoxious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Taunt every interception, celebrate every kill, and highlight your dominance with instant replays..."

    Really?

    Half the time when I'm playing anything modern, I want to skip the instant replay of my death as quickly as possible. Sometimes I'm curious as to whether or not the person killed me was just skilled or obviously aimbotting, so I'll watch it, but 99% of the time I just don't care and I don't need the game rubbing it in my face.

    If that's honestly the kind of thing they're going to promote, then I could care less. I don't want the game forcing me to watch a 30 second reply highlighting how badly I messed up, followed by a bunch of 13 year olds repeatedly mashing the taunt key while screaming "I FUCKED UR MOM LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!" into their microphones. No thanks. I'd rather go play a game with some semblance of professional courtesy where people are well behaved enough to properly congratulate each other on a good game (regardless of who wins or loses).

    1. Re: Could you get any more obnoxious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck Amazon! Fuck video games! Fuck basketball video games! Fuck the internet! Fuck online gaming! Fuck your mom! Fuck taunting! Fuck Slashdot! Fuck nerds! Fuck dorks! Fuck Linux! Fuck moderators! Fuck computers! Fuck all of this shit! I can't fucking take any of this fucking shit anymore. I fucking hate all of you dorks! Fuck editors! Fuck this story! Fuck the idiot who fucking submitted this fucking shit story! Fuck everything! Fuck you all! Fuck me! Fuck you! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

    2. Re:Could you get any more obnoxious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's honestly the kind of thing they're going to promote, then I could care less.

      And minus 5 points to you for "I could care less".

      http://www.todayifoundout.com/...

    3. Re:Could you get any more obnoxious? by laurencetux · · Score: 1

      Oh on the replay thing its both better and worse than you would think

      you see twitch has a feature called "Clips" where any viewer of your stream can hit a button and i think the last 20 and next 10 seconds of the stream is saved as a clip. This clip is available FOREVER (and yes it can be downloaded and converted to data glyphs).

      and there are a bunch of streamers that keep things mostly civilized gamerscircle is a bit rowdy but

      Abookcase
      ozzyinspace
      thereadpanda
      plexistan

      all keep it clean

      but look at it this way if you already have Amazon Prime and you are a Gamer setting up Twitch Prime is a good way to get free stuffs.

      (oh and chat is text only most of the time)

      see y'all in chat

    4. Re: Could you get any more obnoxious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KappaPride

      Pogchamp

  9. Re:Better idea by Racemaniac · · Score: 1

    So you're saying we should play pokemon go?

  10. Re:Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I think he's talking about himself.

  11. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like basketball but the athletes are armed?

    1. Re: WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the athletes play street basketball, are armed to commit violent crimes, and do lots of showboating. It's definitely a game designed for blacks.

    2. Re: WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already been done. Bill Liambeers Combat Basketball.

  12. Re:Amazon is going after every market in the world by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

    chatting on my Amazon cell phone.

    Never thought I'd encounter someone that actually bought one of them.

  13. Re:Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It isn't that easy for everyone. There's a site for those who need help.
    http://gamequitters.com/

  14. Games by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If you think about what makes games so fantastic, it's the experiences you have with your friends,"

    Er... not really.

    I mean, sometimes. I can remember a handful of really fun sessions on games across LANs (using everything from 10Base2 to Gigabit, and serial, and even - at one point - IP over daisy-chained parallel cables using a DOS-based packet driver).

    But usually on games that, from the point of their release until several months later when we could organise a session, were only played on single computers by one person. And the vast majority of games that I love are inherently single-player.

    And though I run multiplayer servers for a number of games, and a few of them are incredibly popular in that little niche game, the multiplayer experience is there because the game demands it, and then because I can't stand playing with the majority of morons that exist online today. I honestly cannot play online any more without a KICK/BAN button that I can guarantee will work without the democracy of opening it up to a vote. And, yes, even with that kind of dictatorship admin, I still run extremely popular servers.

    The latest one for me is Factorio. Love the game. It's fantastic and sucks time like all those games of old that I used to play but had to give up when real-life intervened.

    It's multiplayer. It's online multiplayer. I have a server for it. Myself and a random guy spent three hours setting up a factory. Then another guy joined. 20 minutes later, I found missing pieces of transport systems and entire buildings destroyed, and then the new guy started attacking us both. By the time I kicked him, the game was ruined.

    Even amongst friends, the problem is not that it's not possible - multiplayer over the Internet is easier than ever. It's that friends don't have the time, money, inclination, or play in ways that make it fun to play with them. My brother is a gamer, I can't remember the last time we played together. I think it was when AOE2 was remastered on Steam, because it worked and we'd always played that with each other.

    Some of it is age, but when you go play with younger people who are "into games", their attention span is incredibly limited, they piss about not playing the game half the time, there's no semblance of teamwork or organisation and I "ragequit" (as they say - I mean, they have a specific phrase for "we're so shit that we make other people mad and not want to play with us"!).

    That's why I run my own servers.

    That's why - unless it's casual games at a party - I don't bother to try to play even with people on my Steam friends list.

    That's why I very much prefer games that don't require that kind of interaction and are playable in their own right - not by having friends on the same service.

    And even if you have a great set of friends and a lot of games and interests in common, and all the facilities in the world - the number of times you can play in a game against or (more difficult) with a significant number of your own friends, for any significant amount of time is truly limited.

    Hell, I'm a CS-player from since before 1.6, and some of my best gaming moments were had in things like TIS-1000, Flight Control, and Master of Orion (the original) than anything else. And rarely were my friends crowded around the PC going "Oh, wow" at them (because nobody has any need to crowd round a PC like that any more).

    The best gaming moments ever are things like playing Half-life 2 for the first time. Or getting through Syndicate to that impossible last mission. Very rarely do they involve other people, and certainly not playing against random strangers.

    I've just cut TF2 out of my life, after years of casual play on it. Everything became "serious" and competitive, and that's not what the game is about. So everyone ends up peeing about and ruining the game to get some relief from even the "casual" server setups that are no fun at all.

    1. Re:Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Competitive TF2? Wow. I thought I'd never see the day. And I'd know. I logged 800+ hours in TF2, mostly between 2008 and 2013.

      Last time I tried to play TF2, all of the good servers had shut down and the servers with any players on them required a couple dozen janky-ass mods and announcer voice packs before you could play on them. The players (across multiple, unrelated servers) were just sort of dicking around playing deathmatch instead of actually trying to win the game. It felt like being an employee on the last day before a store closes permanently. At least we were having fun, though. It sounds like it has gotten much worse and started into CS territory. Sad.

      And for the record, that experience was about 6 months ago.

    2. Re:Games by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Gaming has always been about the journey, the story helps. But that personal experience that gives you those warm feels is what has always made it. Ask any gamer the first time they stepped into the Fortress of Regrets and Deionarra shows up if they didn't feel something. Or their first play through of Mass Effect when you tell the fleet to come through. Even with older games there's going to be stuff you just remember and it's going to make you feel something.

      But twitch? Cancer, the only service it provided was occasionally showing off new releases or people playing games before they were released in a review-like state. Now it's just camwhores and jackasses as far as the eye can see, they just put the nail into it when they decided to start arbitrarily banning games because it hurt some regressives feelings.

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    3. Re:Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article is out of touch. What makes games fun isn't "experiences with friends", it's gameplay. If the gameplay is shit, it doesn't matter if it's single player or multiplayer, it's going to suck.

      Back when Street Fighter II came out, I used to go to the arcades and play against complete strangers and it was a lot of fun. Now, I stick to mostly single player games because they have more depth, are more thought-provoking, I don't have to put up with other players whining that I'm too bad or too good and I still have a lot of fun with them.

      In fact, all of the best games ever made are single player.

    4. Re:Games by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      Overwatch is really similar to TF if you're looking for a replacement.

    5. Re:Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gaming has always been about the journey, the story helps. But that personal experience that gives you those warm feels is what has always made it.

      I think that great gaming does not require or even benefit from multiplayer.

      However, some the best times I've had playing video games were playing fighting games in the arcade at college (mid 90s). Prior to that, there were multiplayer co-op games (Gauntlet, Double Dragon, etc.) that I remember fondly.

      People didn't talk trash the same way when it was to the face of someone standing right at their shoulder, and nobody would put a token into a machine just to screw up someone else in a co-op game.

  15. Looks like .. by yakumo.unr · · Score: 1

    Now it might be good who knows, but at first glance it sure looks like it's just trying to cash in on DotA / LoL and Rocket League at the same time.

  16. What makes games fantastic is playing alone by BorgDrone · · Score: 1

    "If you think about what makes games so fantastic, it's the experiences you have with your friends,"

    No, what makes games fantastic is that I can escape into a fantasy world for a while and not have to deal with the real world, which includes other humans.

    I can't be the only one that hates multiplayer games with a passion. I think they are lazy money-grabs (no need to have story or any real content, just provide a few arena's and let the users provide the 'content'). They are cheap to make and can be milked almost indefinitely.

    1. Re:What makes games fantastic is playing alone by Calydor · · Score: 1

      For some reason this reminded me of a comment I once saw on WoW's forums about Mists of Pandaria's leveling experience that stuck with me ever since:

      "It was just me, traveling the continent, solving people's problems."

      That is what RPGs used to be about, what we played for decades. Perhaps it should be considered the difference between reading a good book over a weekend and going to the premiere of the latest ... let's say Star Wars movie. Both things are good - for their own kind of audience.

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    2. Re:What makes games fantastic is playing alone by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      No, what makes games fantastic is that I can escape into a fantasy world for a while and not have to deal with the real world, which includes other humans.

      I gotta disagree. I am 30-something gamer and my best game experiences have and continue to be playing with my friends online, many of whom I knew in real life before gaming with them. We chat on Teamspeak and my interactions with them, often augmented through the game we are playing, is more reward and memorable than anything I do in a game.

      I can't be the only one that hates multiplayer games with a passion. I think they are lazy money-grabs (no need to have story or any real content, just provide a few arena's and let the users provide the 'content'). They are cheap to make and can be milked almost indefinitely.

      You probably aren't the only one, but I play almost exclusively multiplayer games for the reasons I stated above. Also, some of the best games are ones that give simply give a balanced arena where individual talents and skills can shine. Rocket League for example is a fantastic award-winning game, which my friends and I have spent countless hours playing, but the core game (soccer with rocket-cars) is a very simple arena-style play.

      Now, that doesn't mean I give two-shits about viewing random asshats on Twitch... I'm just pointing out that for many people the social aspect of games is critical.

  17. The experiences with your friends... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't i just play a game for myself? And go do things with my friends in the real world?

  18. Re:Better idea by phishybongwaters · · Score: 2

    said the guy on slashdot lol. Put on some pants you slob

  19. Mutant League Basketball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically just took the idea and spinned it.

  20. Disappointing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always said that all sports would be made much better with explosives. A few landmines on the field, a randomly exploding ball, that sort of thing.

    Bonus, you get fewer asshole athletes.

  21. Re:Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh look, yet someone else who thinks he knows what's best for everyone else. Get in line behind behind every other snowflake with an agenda.

  22. Smell my Vagina! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inhale my Bezos Vaginal fumes!

  23. Re: Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nah, I would just put a couple of hollow points into your brain. And to think you wasted all of that time working out for nothing.