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UK Security Agencies Unlawfully Collected Data For 17 Years, Court Rules (theguardian.com)
British security agencies have secretly and unlawfully collected massive volumes of confidential personal data, including financial information, on citizens for more than a decade, top judges have ruled. The Guardian adds:The investigatory powers tribunal, which is the only court that hears complaints against MI5, MI6 and GCHQ, said the security services operated secret regimes to collect vast amounts of personal communications data, tracking individual phone and web use and large datasets of confidential personal information, without adequate safeguards or supervision for more than 10 years. The ruling said the regime governing the collection of bulk communications data (BCD) -- the who, where, when and what of personal phone and web communications -- failed to comply with article 8 protecting the right to privacy of the European convention of human rights (ECHR) between 1998, when it started, and 4 November 2015, when it was made public. It said the holding of bulk personal datasets (BPD) -- which might include medical and tax records, individual biographical details, commercial and financial activities, communications and travel data -- also failed to comply with article 8 for the decade it was in operation until its public avowal in March 2015.
Secret police were never bound by law in any history book I've read.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
And, more importantly, it doesn't say who, how, or when the individuals responsible for the initial collection and later usage of those data will be prosecuted and/or fined for their actions.
So basically this is, "yup, we have your data and you know about it. Tough shit."
Sad.
It has been determined that the admin account for these agencies is james.bond007
...the penalty is that the taxpayer paid for this investigation. But nothing is going to change.
The problem is not so much state governments spying on their own people, which this addresses, but them having other states spy on their citizens and then "sharing" the information as "metadata" and treating assumptions as if they were facts, without being subject to critique.
You're all serfs.
Wait.
No.
Serfs have rights.
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It happens everywhere, or, ALMOST everywhere. You only hear about it in the media in some countries. Or the government is not held accountable and expected to be spying on the citizens in some countries.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Capability. "Black and Brown countries" didn't build the global telecommunications network.
And nothing.
"Dreadfully sorry, old chap. Won't happen again." (until after Article 50)
No worries, the European Convention on Human Rights is a separate treaty than Brexit so GCHQ et al will still be out of compliance for this type of snooping, even after Brexit goes through (whatever that ends up meaning).
Might as well face it I'm addicted to data.
Nice to hear that despite popular opinion the NSA/CIA were never alone in what they've been doing since WW2. There was a LOT of mud slinging at the US as info regarding what our 'secret police' have been doing in our name became available but as we all really understood, it was never just the US, every country has been practicing violating human rights and its' on internal laws in the name of security for a long, long time. While this doesn't make any of it better at least we can do away with the USA bashing and get back to just generic hypocritical government bashing.
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some senior staff will be discplined, and they will be ordered to delete all the data gathered unlawfully. That's how it works, right?
nope
we're not just serfs, we've got five data collection centers actively spying on our own people, with no check of any kind on their illegal and unconstitutional activities
we make serfs look good
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I thought the US was by far the fattest place on the planet, damn I am sorry.
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I chose my words poorly. I wasn't implying that bashing the government(s) was hypocritical, but rather that the governments themselves were hypocritical. Here in the land of Freedom, we are routinely required to give up our freedoms so that we can stay the land of the free, and the home of the brave. Speaking of losing battles, I just got my ballot today for the national election and I am considering which losing candidate to vote for. I won't vote Hillary or Trump, and though I am registered Green party I am not sure I like them any better, any last words of advice ?
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