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WikiLeaks: Ecuador Cut Off Assange's Internet Access (bbc.com)

Following a report from WikiLeaks claiming that its co-founder's internet service was intentionally cut off by a state actor, the anti-secrecy organization released a statement confirming the state actor was Ecuador. WikiLeaks tweeted: "We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs." BBC reports: There was no way to immediately verify if he had been knocked offline, and if so, what was Ecuador's motivation. The anti-secrecy organization did not return calls and emails on Monday, though it said in a tweet: "We have activated the appropriate contingency plans." A woman who picked up the phone at the Ecuadorean embassy said: "I cannot disclose any information." The Wikileaks claim follows the latest emails it disclosed from a hack of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's emails. It released three transcripts on Saturday of Mrs Clinton's paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, which her campaign had long refused to release. The scrips reveal her bantering relationship with the investment bank's executives, which is unlikely to allay fears among liberal Democrats that she is too cosy with Wall Street.

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  1. Maybe they've got Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And their unlimited plan isn't actually unlimited. And now some Ecuadoran IT official is stuck on the phone with "tech support." Raise a glass for that poor soul.

  2. So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by phayes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Color me astonished...

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    1. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by quantaman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe I'm missing something, but if he's holed up in the Ecuador embassy in London, how is Ecuador the country that cuts off his internet? I thought that the only country that can is the UK

      They changed the WIFI password and didn't tell him the new one?

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    2. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And Ecuador is not going to allow its relations with the US to be further degraded by the actual "state actor" here, namely Julian Assange.

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    3. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Interesting

      more likely the ecuadorian government got a call they couldn't refuse..

    4. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That may be, but whatever you think of what's happening, if the US is behind this (and not just Ecuador tiring of Assange's presence and the strain it has put on relations with the UK, not to mention the likelihood that they're being used by Russia as a conduit for cyberattacks on the US), then the message being sent to those tasked with enacting Assange's contingency plans is pretty clear.

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    5. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, Ecuador could do it. It might look something like this:

      Assange: Hello Mr. Ambassador, a pleasure to see you again.
      Amb Ortiz: Hello Julian, let me come straight to the point - you can no longer use the internet connection in the embassy. The Foreign Minister has made this decision under difficult circumstances. We are doing this so that we can continue to provide you asylum from Sweden and Britain.
      Assange: But Mr. Ambassador!
      Amb Ortiz: No buts, Julian. No more use of the embassy internet or we will show you the door, and put you outside.
      Assange: I understand Mr. Ambassador. What if I can make other arrangements?
      Amb Ortiz: That is your affair, as long as it does not make use of the embassy facilities.
      Assange: Thank you, Mr. Ambassador for your continued hospitality.

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    6. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Assange is the figurehead, but wikileaks is much more robust. Batch #10 of the Podesta emails was released on schedule, hours after his internet was cut.

      Plus there are his "insurance" files, huge encrypted files containing absolutely everything wikileaks has that have been released publicly at points in the past. Apparently he's got some kind of dead-man's switch set up that will cause the encryption keys to be released if things go south.

    7. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by slashdice · · Score: 2

      Having met him at a conference in '07, I agree 110%

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    8. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by Troed · · Score: 2

      2) He is providing records only of one side.

      This is a very common criticism against Wikileaks. And a very strange one.

      Wikileaks can only release material that someone leaks to them. Feel free to send insider stuff on Trump to them and see what happens.

    9. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by Zak3056 · · Score: 2

      The "State Actor" here, if you will, would have been the US leaning on Ecuador to take these actions, but I agree that a conversation like the above almost certainly happened. The conspiracy theories around this are just amazing.

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    10. Re:So Assange has overstayed his welcome. by dmt0 · · Score: 2

      And Ecuador is not going to allow its relations with the US to be further degraded by the actual "state actor" here, namely Julian Assange.

      You mean their relationships with Goldman Sacks?

  3. The Goldman talks... by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    are only likely to bother people who only read Assange's carefully-chosen excerpts, rather than those who actually read them as a whole. As a whole she comes across very well in them.

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    1. Re:The Goldman talks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yep.

      Not a fan of Hillary, but very little in these talks seems damaging to her. Should be obvious that any good leader and speaker needs to cater speech to the audience. If anything, her intelligent and informed replies to pointed questions at these events is further evidence that she would be a much better president than Trump.

      If this is some of the worst dirt they can come up with on Clinton after her long career in Washington, either she actually is pretty clean by DC standards, or she is a master coverup artist.

    2. Re:The Goldman talks... by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nobody cares about the content of those talks, least of all anybody at Goldman Sachs. She could have stood at the lectern and read Rod McKuen poems for all they care. The issue is that the money Goldman gave her for those "speeches" are in fact bribes paid on spec, against the contingency of her getting into the white house.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:The Goldman talks... by PRMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe that she and Bill are master cover-up artists, but that's a skill that a President sometimes needs, too. Trump can't even cover up his bald head effectively.

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    4. Re:The Goldman talks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You goddamn shill.

      Who the hell pays anyone hundreds of thousands for a few minute talk unless it's either a) pay to play or b) payment for services already rendered?

    5. Re:The Goldman talks... by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The announcement of internet access being cut by a "state actor"--insinuating that this is somehow Clinton's doing--fails to pass basic scrutiny:

      1. If it was cut, why not cut it before the transcript leaks, rather than after?
      2. What would be accomplished by having parties sympathetic to Clinton cut Assange's internet access when everyone knows that such actions would be ineffective?

      The whole thing strikes me as an attempt by Assange to exaggerate his claims. If he had real dirt on Clinton, he would not need to be so coy: it would be plastered all over the headlines. The Russians have been working nonstop to discredit Hillary and the Democrats, and this is the best they could come up with? If anything the result of their attempts would seem to suggest that there's nothing meaningful to be uncovered.

    6. Re:The Goldman talks... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      To be a master coverup artists, you first have to know how to shut your mouth.

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    7. Re:The Goldman talks... by unixisc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think it's just the Hilary stuff. Stuff like the statement from John Podesta wishing that Syed Farook was the informant, rather than the shooter in San Bernardino, and that the shooter was Christopher Hayes, as well as the discussions about a 'Catholic Spring' - those things are more damaging, since they say a lot not just about Clinton's aides, but the very mindset of her campaign.

    8. Re:The Goldman talks... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 3

      That is a stretch. What would you say of Condoleezza Rice giving a speech to Goldman, or of any other form of fundraising? People pay the money in the hopes of creating an influence. Politicians do not live in a vacuum, and as much as I would hate to be a Senator or President, someone needs to do those jobs who is passionate about the position.

    9. Re:The Goldman talks... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What criminal history? Every time some crime is laid at her feet, it always ends up being the fantasies of the far right of the Republican Party. You'd think she was a gangster who'd made her bones in the early 90s and now drank blood for breakfast the way people like you talk.,

      Your buying into the nonsense being repeated in your echo chamber. No one else is buying it. You're just another hyperbolic crazy on the Internet foaming at the mouth with yet another tired conspiracy theory. These attacks against the Clintons have been going on for a quarter century, and they were absurd then, now they just seem to represent some pathological psychological condition on the part of those who keep repeating it.

      What are you going to be like on November 9th? Is this your way of coping?

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    10. Re:The Goldman talks... by meglon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Trump can't even cover up his bald head effectively.

      Not his fault: he stiffed the rat on his head its paycheck like he's done to so many small businesses, so the rat couldn't eat, and it died. Trumps just too lazy to actually remove the corpse. Which makes it all the rats fault in batshit stupid Trumpland.

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    11. Re:The Goldman talks... by meglon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      http://fortune.com/2015/06/11/...

      They're speeches, just like everyone elses speeches. The real problem is you've been lied to for so long by the fascist power hungry GOP politicians that you've developed a Pavlovian response to say everything Hillary does is bad. It must suck having your head so far up your ass all the time.

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    12. Re:The Goldman talks... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      So what did Goldman Sachs pay the Bush administration to give the Secretary of Treasury position to Paulson, the recently former GS CEO? I recall a massive banker bailout that seemed to favor GS immensely occurring during his tenure as well.

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    13. Re:The Goldman talks... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Well that sure did convince me! Boy, who needs evidence when some Trumpeteer AC calls him a "stupid fucking douche" was all it took.

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    14. Re:The Goldman talks... by Rei · · Score: 2

      Be nice to Trump's headweasel, it does the best that it can.

      (I personally like to mentally picture that Trump's hair is a live animal with a perfectly calm, rational temperment that's frankly very disturbed by all of the things that Trump says, but is very dedicated to its job and doesn't want to ruin a TV appearance by standing up and walking off. Maybe the sniffing was it repeatedly trying to restrain a sigh...)

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    15. Re:The Goldman talks... by tempo36 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed. Who the hell? Her speaking fees are so unreasonably high compared to everyone else in the world, surely the only answer is corruption and bribery. Pull your head out. http://qz.com/441327/yes-hilla... http://www.inquisitr.com/22032...

    16. Re:The Goldman talks... by slashdice · · Score: 2

      If women let the hill billy governor of a shit hole state grab their pussy, I'm sure they'd let a rich guy grab it too.

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    17. Re:The Goldman talks... by wickerprints · · Score: 2

      This makes no logical sense. If Clinton or Obama or the Democrats couldn't get Ecuador to give up Assange in the first place, what influence or leverage would they have to push Ecuador to cut Assange's internet? Like I pointed out already, it isn't as if doing such a thing would even be effective, and the US government knows this. Cut Assange's internet? It would only look bad and accomplish nothing to curb any leaks because any such data would be held in multiple locations.

      As for deliberately waiting to release the most damning material, that also doesn't make sense. We have already seen real evidence that demonstrates significant and long-term impact of actual scandals surrounding a candidate--e.g., Hillary's email server, and Donald Trump's profane sexism. What doesn't make sense is to do what you describe, which is to wait, because these things take time to percolate through the mainstream media, get discussed and disseminated among the voting public, and sink in and shape opinion. In the case of various allegations Trump supporters have made against Clinton, the rationale for waiting is even more patently absurd, because she isn't being accused of things that are of a salacious nature: their accusations are more deeply political in nature, and if true, would benefit more from an extended period of time to investigate their credibility. Unlike a video where it takes 30 seconds for an average person to understand what was said in a sound bite, Trump supporters' accusations would have their best impact with more time, not less, and this again is supported by the email server controversy, which they have used to maximal advantage.

      So, no, I don't buy your argument. Assange is not credible; his vendetta is personal, and he lacks the standing to make good on his claims. That is not to say that Hillary is free of corruption. But there is proof that Trump is a vile and lecherous individual, by whose own admission has not paid his fair share of taxes. Put another way, I don't believe any major players in this election at this point are clean, but there is one individual who everyone can see is not only dirty to his core, he openly brags about it as if it's a selling point.

    18. Re:The Goldman talks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know, but if Hillary only collected $200,000 from a player with pockets lined with cash, what's up with Trump's $1,500,000 fees to talk? Obviously Trump was pay to play 7.5 times more than Hillary!

      Or, they both can find markets that are willing to pay them. We laid out a few dollars (it's called an Honorarium) to hear Linux Pauling speak before he passed. Was it cheap to book the only person who singly won two Nobel Prizes? Was it worth it? I mean, he didn't talk about anything beyond what he had done, or was doing (all information that probably could have been compiled at a cheaper rate), but there is a legitimacy to hearing it from the man himself.

      I personally think that many would say we overpaid to hear Pauling talk; but, now that he's dead, I'd wager that some organization would claim to pay as much as we did or more if only they had the chance to hear him speak.

      By the way, I read the first bits of the Clinton talks. What Assange is highlighting is just dumb. He's fishing for sentences that could be taken out of context in a bad light. It doesn't matter if you support Trump, Clinton, or Donald Duck, if you read the entire transcript, you'll see that Clinton didn't say anything deeply untoward or disrespectful of the USA, the USA's allies, or even the USA's enemies. The speech, like so many of the things supposedly putting Clinton at a disadvantage, actually boosts here appeal when read personally.

    19. Re:The Goldman talks... by cold+fjord · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So what does defending bragging about sexual assault say about the Trump campaign?

      Good question. I've got a better one: What does actually raping women, silencing them through intimidation, plotting with campaign staff to attack them in the media, and coordinating with members of the media to silence, harass, and discredit those rape victims say about the Clintons and their campaign? (And that was going on for decades.) And what about Bill's many trips to pedophile island?

      As bad as Trump is, the Clintons are worse. Of course the Clintons are "Progressives" so it's all good, right?

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    20. Re: The Goldman talks... by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Oh, well then, show me Trump's indictment. The only things the Clintons cleverly got away from was indictment due to technicalities, like the definition of the word 'is', statute of limitations and so on. That is supposed to be a ringing endorsement of their innocence, but we are supposed to believe the worst stuff about Trump from 35 years ago

  4. Quoth Assange by Daetrin · · Score: 2

    Et tu, Equador?

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  5. War is coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ecuador moved at the behest of Hillary, Kerry and pals in the US government. I have no doubt that the pressure on Ecuador is immense.
    The elites are desperate to stop Assange and his leaks. Even at this late hour, the thought that the truth might get out terrifies them enough that all agree on increasingly desperate measures.

    As the web of lies and tattered economy they have left in their wake comes undone, I have no doubt that we will see more and more extreme actions like this from our ruling elite. Today also, RT's bank accounts in the UK were unilaterally closed, again at the behest of the US government. War with Russia is being drummed up at all costs, because only a major war can save the Elites from the banquest of consequences their enraged populations have in store for them.

    Don't be naive enough to swallow the pathetic excuses the shills will render up. The US and western elites have finally moved on Assange, because he committed the most unforgivable sin of all; he made them afraid.

    1. Re:War is coming by unixisc · · Score: 2

      I would imagine that the US would have wanted him all these years. So why would Ecuador have held out to date, and why would they turn him in now?

    2. Re:War is coming by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

      An alternative explanation is that the US showed Ecuador that Assange, and thus their British Embassy, were being used by Russia as a means to tamper with the US election and in general as a conduit to release information gained through cyber-espionage. Whatever Ecuador's feelings on Assange, the Clintons, Trump, or the price of tea in China, the fact remains that they cannot simply sit by and let someone who is a guest at their embassy, and who is on the lamb from British courts, undermine the embassy by using it in this way.

      It demonstrates the extent of Assange's arrogance, and his complete detachment from reality that he would abuse his hosts in this fashion. Did he imagine that his defacto asylum granted him unlimited rights to use Embassy resources in any way he pleased?

      I suspect British police are just waiting for the invite so they can grab him.

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  6. I suspect....sadly by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I suspect, since we're saber rattling and threatening Russia over Hillary's DNC email cover up. That they have pretty much threatened Ecuador to hand over Assange or the U.S. will pretty much make hell for Ecuador.

    I strongly suspect Assange will be in U.S. custody within the next two months.

  7. "Mom, I was doing something important" by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Ecuadorian ambassador was quoted as saying, "Julian never cleans his room or puts his dishes in the dishwasher, and he keeps trying to feel up the housekeepers. He better shape up, mister, or next time it's going to be the Playstation. He'll have to start contributing around here. It's not like we work for the broadband company."

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  8. No conspiracy theory needed. This is simple. by CFD339 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ecuador has been walking a line for some time providing refuge. Assange has made clear at this point both in statements and in actions, that when it comes to this election he has a very strong bias. Ecuador does not want to be seen taking steps to interfere in a US election. By providing the platform and venue for Assange to do what he's doing, as it becomes increasingly clear that he's not providing unbiased data release but rather acting as a proxy for Russian propaganda product, that's exactly the position they're in. By cutting off his access, they're preventing him using their protection to interfere in the US election.

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  9. Fascinating .... by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

    I wonder who had enough "juice" to make this happen?

    Ecuador has been very willing to poke Sweden, Europe, and the US in the eye over Assange for years. So, why now?

    Did Wallstreet firms make some threats about investment?
    Did the Clinton campaign threaten vengeance when Hillary is selected as president?
    Did the US State Department make some threats to cover for Hillary?
    Did the CIA threaten tit for tat against Ecuador as part of rumored actions against Russia?
    Are foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation leaning on Ecuador to stop Assange from exposing them?
    Is the Obama administration threatening military action over the claimed interference in the US election?
    Is the media threatening reports on Ecuador? Or is someone threatening to leak to the media about them?
    Are there some lucrative deals Ecuador's elites have going that are in danger?

    The possibilities seem almost endless. Whoever it was must have the ability to make a substantial threat, big enough for Ecuador to fold like a cheap deck chair.

    But who was it?

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    1. Re:Fascinating .... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By all accounts, the political situation in Ecuador itself is changing, so it is very likely that the government has decided that it is no longer going to offer Assange blanket protection. That's their right, it is their embassy. In fact, Ecuador is within the rights to evict Assange if they want to. He's there at their sufferance, and if they decide he's becoming an irritant and damaging their international relations, then they have a duty to the Ecuadorian people to limit his ability to create such disturbances.

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  10. Re:No conspiracy theory needed. This is simple. by nickberry · · Score: 2

    I'm sure if he had dirt on Trump he'd release it also.

  11. I used to think Assange was smart by presidenteloco · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But no matter what he thinks Hillary did to him, his recent actions have him in active support of Donald Trump for president of the world's largest superpower, and that's just beyond fathoming level of dumb.

    Sad to say it but I guess being cooped up must really make you neurotic after a while.

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    1. Re:I used to think Assange was smart by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Corruption is, indeed, good to point out. But timing can cause one to suspect partisan motivations.

      If I liked Hillary, I'd be upset. As it is I just don't think she's as bad as Trump, which is a really low bar. And she may mean some of the good things she says. (Her honesty rating is higher than that of most politicians holding office...but I sure wouldn't claim she never lies.)

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  12. Don't be surprised ... Watch this video any you'll by AnnonymousCoward_16 · · Score: 2, Informative
  13. Doesn't really matter how she comes off by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real thing is so far, I haven't seen anything I didn't already know. I mean maybe some of the "bombshell" revelations are news to some people, but not to anybody who has followed Clinton for any amount of time. She's cozy with Wall St.? Oh so fucking shit, tell us something we didn't already know :P.

    Perhaps I've just missed it (I haven't gone and read everything, I've been relying on synopses provided by others) but I've seen nothing that would change my opinion, nor would I think anyone else's. Everything "revealed" was already known: She's cozy with big business, favours free trade, had the Democratic establishment behind her, etc. All the reasons why I would much prefer that Sanders was the Democratic candidate.

    However, none of it makes me think any better of Trump. Like Senator Sanders himself, I can be pragmatic about what happened.

  14. Re:I'm just surprised.... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, which is why it was never a serious proposition. But the Trumpites need any ammunition they can get, and no wonder, with the early voting and the strong indications that Trump is going to lose badly.

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  15. Wikileaks infrastructure by unixisc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is Assange the only person at WikiLeaks? Are the only computers in WikiLeaks the ones in the Ecuadorian embassy? Aren't there WikiLeak employees in other countries in Europe? Do they have servers? Do they have operatives in Russia or its allies who break into these emails?

    1. Re:Wikileaks infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think they have a fair amount of redundancy in other places. It only takes a handful of people and some cheap rented servers.
      I don't think Assange's arrest would stop the leaks, if anything it might cause them to be dumped all at once.
      He may have a "dead man switch" set up, so that if he doesn't log in to a particular server once every few days, the contents are automatically uploaded.

    2. Re:Wikileaks infrastructure by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      Assange drove away almost all the volunteers with his dickish behavior and treating the wikileaks donations like a personal piggy bank. There are still a few volunteers, but the vast majority quit a long time ago.

  16. Re:Citation or link or source? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a source for that quote right here.

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  17. Funny how everyone who doesn't like liberal by melted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny how everyone who doesn't worship the liberal establishment automatically turns into "literally Hitler", and the same people who previously supported that person have a full body orgasm when they're taken down.

    1. Re:Funny how everyone who doesn't like liberal by yuriklastalov · · Score: 2

      Funny how everyone who doesn't worship the liberal establishment automatically turns into "literally Hitler", and the same people who previously supported that person have a full body orgasm when they're taken down.

      You know who else said that? Hitler.

    2. Re:Funny how everyone who doesn't like liberal by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Funny how everyone who doesn't worship the liberal establishment automatically turns into "literally Hitler"

      Does this have anything to do with the story? I don't see any mention of Hitler.

      And hey, Hitler was the guy who killed Hitler. So he wasn't all bad.

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    3. Re:Funny how everyone who doesn't like liberal by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      Funny how everyone who worships Assange have been completely oblivious to how he and his organisation have pretty much morphed into a parody of themselves.

      ProTip: It stopped being about the info and started being all about Julian instead, quite some time ago.

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  18. I doubt he'd dump on Trump by dlenmn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sure if he had dirt on Trump he'd release it also.

    At one time, I would have agreed with you. However, it's becoming clear that Assange is not simply freeing information; he's playing politics -- possibly in hopes of a Trump pardon. That's not a far-fetched goal. Assange's standing among conservatives has improved greatly since he started dumping on Clinton. Take the example of Fox News anchor (and Trump lapdog) Sean Hannity. In 2010, he was calling for Assange's head and castigating Obama for not taking out wikileaks. Now, Hannity wants Assange to go free. (Source) So, if Assange had dirt on Trump, I highly doubt that Assange would release it. He wouldn't want to alienate his most powerful audience.

  19. Re:"hacked"? by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has wikileaks ever confirmed they got the emails from a hacker? couldn't they be, lets say, leaked?

    Doesn't matter. The source only is an issue because the people screaming about it don't want to discuss the content of the leaks.

    The DNC is as corrupt as the GOP. That's the takeaway that the people who believe themselves to be the "good" guys are cognitive dissonancing themselves into a tizzy over.

    Remember, Wikileaks were heroes when they were releasing Bush era war documents. Now that they're revealing that Hillary's campaign and the DNC have been illegally taking money from foreigners and using shell companies to circumvent laws about collusion with Super PACs they're the devil working with $szCurrentRival to undermine democracy itself.

  20. Re:Don't be surprised ... Watch this video any you by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We kinda always suspected this was true, but it's really nice hearing it come out of their own foul mouths. That's corruption on a level rarely ever seen outside of dictatorships.

    If anybody votes for Hillary, they are giving their stamp of approval to corruption. I encourage everybody to watch the video and then honestly think about who you're voting for this November. Trump is no saint, but he's a far cry away from that shit.

  21. Re: as bad as the government he rails against by slashrio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you're an idiot. Or a shill.

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  22. Appeasing the Clintons, not Obama by drnb · · Score: 2

    It was OK for a while, but once Wikileaks got into the pants of the DNC, Obama decided to either play hard ball, or offer them something.

    Obama? I'm sure he'll be glad to be rid of the Clintons and get out of DC. I don't see why he'd lift a finger to protect her reputation. Please he's a lame duck and of no consequence at this point. The only ones to fear at this point are the Clintons. It Ecuador is trying to appease anyone its the Clintons.

  23. Must see Democratic machine undercover footage. by dbreeze · · Score: 2

    https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY The Democratic Party has gone slam off the farm. I only wonder where the Republican machine corruption is relatively..., and are they really scared of Trump. So far, I've only given the Rep's inner circles credit for better operational security.

    Is Trump our Underdog to get the Simon Bar Sinister's of the world, or is he a devious plant by the establishment? I don't see how they could plan to work this where Trump just shifts the NWO agenda to the next gear without the rest of us down here going ballistic on their asses.

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  24. Re:Don't be surprised ... Watch this video any you by radish · · Score: 2

    I am voting for someone who isn't Trump. That's all I need to know. I'd vote for Big Bird over that mouth-breathing hippo.

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  25. Re:Don't be surprised ... Watch this video any you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If anybody votes for Hillary, they are giving their stamp of approval to corruption.

    Nice try shitlord, but that corruption is on the Right Side of History and it's time to Correct The Record!

    Quick! Look over there!

    • Misogyny!
    • Racism!
    • Ableism!
    • Transphobia!
    • Islamophobia!
  26. the sexual adventures of Clinton vs Trump by unixisc · · Score: 2

    It's not merely that. During the Lewinsky saga, anybody who was appalled at the behavior of President Bill Clinton was haranged and lectured that it was his personal life, and none of our business, and so on. If one brought up Gennifer Flowers, Juanita Broderick or Paula Jones, we were given the 'so many years ago' excuse - even though Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and Kathleen Willey were contemporaneous at the time. Now, all of a sudden, the Dems have had their Road to Damascus moment when Trump is caught on Access Hollywood tapes from 11 years ago, and allegations women make about stuff he supposedly did 35 years ago is supposed to disqualify him from president.

    Only problem - Trump was a Democrat when he supposedly did those things, and when he said the things on Access Hollywood. If Dems want to disqualify him for that, then the more Leftist among them - the Bernie/Stein/Pocahontas supporters ought to also endorse him for his past support of Single Payer Healthcare, no matter that he doesn't support it now. After all, if he groped women years ago, but has reformed since, and we're not supposed to recognize it, then if he had a different Leftist position years ago that he no longer has, we shouldn't recognize that either. Right? RIGHT?

  27. Re:Now watch Hillary shills circlejerk in approval by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

    Well, that would be fair turnabout for all the Clinton/Bernie supporters who attack Trump supporters, steal their signs, and vandalize GOP campaign offices, but I don't think they've sunk as low as that in that regard. If anyone has lived up to the Brown shirts ideal this election, it's been the Leftists, because actions speak louder than words.

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