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Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds (bloomberg.com)

Americans are addicted to their jobs. U.S. workers not only put in more hours than workers do almost anywhere else. They're also increasingly retiring later and taking fewer vacation days, reports Bloomberg. From the article: A new study tries to measure precisely how much more Americans work than Europeans do overall. The answer: The average person in Europe works 19 percent less than the average person in the U.S. That's about 258 fewer hours per year, or about an hour less each weekday. Another way to look at it: U.S. workers put in almost 25 percent more hours than Europeans. Hours worked vary a lot by country, according to the unpublished working paper by economists Alexander Bick of Arizona State University, Bettina Bruggemann of McMaster University in Ontario, and Nicola Fuchs-Schundeln of Goethe University Frankfurt. Swiss work habits are most similar to Americans', while Italians are the least likely to be at work, putting in 29 percent fewer hours per year than Americans do.

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  1. What have they got to show for it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean bragging about our victory over socialized medicine is fun and all..

    1. Re:What have they got to show for it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How does retiring at age 50 sound? House paid off, Cars paid off, kids in college, $1.2M in bank. Of course it wasn't easy, working a minimum 65 hours per week and going home tired as death.

      Retirement sounds all good and well at age 50, unless you end up dropping dead at age 55 due to the stressful work schedule you've endured for most of your life.

      Also, I can comfortably assume that at least one of the parents wasn't around much for family time and raising children when working to death at a minimum of 65 hours per week. As a parent, some sacrifices are worth it, and with $1.2M in the bank, the one thing even you can't buy back is lost time.

    2. Re:What have they got to show for it? by kwbauer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course. I forgot that Europeans were able to prevent Russia from moving in all by themselves. Oh wait. No they didn't. Russia moved in and installed puppets in all those Eastern bloc countries and the other European countries did nothing. The US was tired and left Europe to do something and Europe failed. The US left Europe to keep Ukraine safe and Europe failed.

      How much has Europe been paying the US to maintain all those bases that kept Russia at bay? Only an idiot believes that the Soviet Union/Russia would have left Europe alone had the US not maintained those bases, free of charge to the Europeans. Actually, the US was pumping money into the countries where those bases were located.

    3. Re:What have they got to show for it? by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to be Debbie Downer, 1.2MM is rarely enough to retire early on, even with zero debt or college costs, unless you live on less than $1,500 per month and plan on down-sizing the home soon to boost savings.

      Personally, I like working, so I don't mind spending 10-12 hours a day at the company I helped build. The money is good, wife and I don't have kids and like to travel, so it works. I get about 6 weeks of vacation a year, although most of it is in the form of long weekends. We cut back on our pay and proportionally reduced the stress level, so a long day isn't always long hours working.

      I look at my Scandinavian sister-in-law, and while I might envy the month of July off and zero-work weekends, I prefer what we have more. (Although I will need to retire hopefully around 50, I liked the retire early, retire often strategy more.)

  2. Need more unions and workers rights! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Need more unions and workers rights!

    1. Re:Need more unions and workers rights! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Uh no. We need less government control, so people can start their own businesses. Why is the liberal solution more of what causes the problem in the first place?

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    2. Re:Need more unions and workers rights! by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. You're being fired from two of your three part-time, low-wage jobs because you needed to stay home to care for a sick child? You just need to start your own business! If you're too lazy to do that, why should we care about your problems?

  3. Only Logical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As Americans measure everything by size and not quality, I am not surprised by this. My USA counterparts are much more at the office, and producing less work than the continental ones. Make a study about effectiveness and I am your man!

    1. Re:Only Logical by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, that makes Dublin the Delaware of Europe.

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  4. We get vacation?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wage slave here. Recently changed jobs (moved) and new company gives only 8 days a year vacation+Personal Holiday+mandatory holiday. I would love to work less... My wife and I are still discussing if we could afford for me to be Mr. Mom and her to work (she does make 2x what I make)... Lately I have been working the actual hours I get paid for, and have even been taking all of the breaks I am entitled to, but nobody ever takes, and my life satisfaction has gone way up. It's not that most americans are addicted to their job, it's that they are made to feel that if they don't work 120% of the hours they are "paid to work" then they will look like slackers and be let go.

  5. That's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do they have to show for it? That depends on whether you fit in.

    If you fit in, you've got money to show for it.

    If you don't fit in, you've got nothing to show for it.

    1. Re:That's easy by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the end result of the Prosperity Gospel.

      Those on the "outside" are conditioned to believe that, with enough hard work and effort, they'll eventually be on the "inside". However, those on the inside create policies to keep those on the outside, *outside*. Despite this, people still make decisions (i.e., voting) with the belief that they *might* become part o that inside group, ignoring the present (or even future) realities.

      It's fantastic social propaganda, though. The economy exploits the increased productivity (assuming, of course, more work hours equates to comparable economic gains; we all know that person that does 3 hours of work in an 8 hour shift), while kindling hope in a population that prosperity is just around the corner if they just keep working harder.

  6. Work != Worked hours by Oxygen99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pfft. Get back to me when hours worked equals productivity.

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  7. Conventional wisdom by Kohath · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Conventional wisdom says that everything about Europeans is always better than everything about Americans. You get socially rewarded by high-social-status people for saying so. So not working is better than working in this case, regardless of whether that makes sense or not.

  8. Re:Misleading results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am very interested in how they defined the productivity per worker. The article does not state that. From the numbers they show, my gut feeling is that they simply divided the gross national product by the number of employees, which is a wildly inaccurate way of defining productivity. Norway is not significantly more productive than Sweden or Denmark - it just has a lot of oil and those two countries do not. The relative sizes of the financial sector in different countries adds a similar distortion and there are many more factors to consider. How much a worker actually contributes to productivity is very hard to measure objectively. The GDP per worker does not tell much of that story.

  9. Re:Capitalism of exploration by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Productivity and "working more" are not the same thing.

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  10. Re: Capitalism of exploration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, all my friends who brag about working 10h-12h days spend much of it online social media or shooting the proverbial shit.

    I come in at 6:30-7 and I spend 4-5h on mental stuff but then I'm utterly done. Got a good boss, he knows I get the plurality of team's shit done and doesn't blink twice when I head out at lunch at noon and don't come back till 3:30 because I'm playing disc golf or some such, see if I missed anything and head home.

    Any of the seatwarmers here try that and they'd be out of work the next day. But then they take a week to solve problems it takes me a day, tops, all because they can't concentrate. Multitasking, my ass.

  11. Re:Misleading results by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We will soon find out, I fear. The UK has already been talking about which employee rights will be removed once it leaves the EU. Time off proportional to overtime looks like it will be the first thing to go, but they keep talking about making the UK more "competitive", by which they of course mean lower wages, longer hours and fewer expenses like safety equipment and adaptations for people with disabilities.

    So it is likely we will find out just what that does to productivity soon, giving us an opportunity to compare the EU and US models.

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  12. Not an EU problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    EU overall trades at a *profit*. There may be some of the smaller countries struggling (notably Greece) but overall EU does not have to internally inflates its economy with QE.

    This is a problem with a few key economies that run at huge deficits and go the easy short-term route of internally inflating their economies. Japan had it for decades, US followed, UK joined them.

  13. Livable minimum wage makes a difference by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that a lot of people in the US have multiple jobs working many hours just to be able to buy food and pay rent is not something you should be proud of.

  14. Re:Capitalism of exploration by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    True. It also doesn't take into account the quality of work done. It might just mean Europeans are 25% more efficient.

    I think it means that Americans get less paid vacation than Europeans and they are more afraid of losing their jobs.

  15. Re: Capitalism of exploration by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Multitasking just means you do a lot of jobs at once, poorly.

  16. Re:Capitalism of exploration by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Mmm, that's productivity per worker. If that Frenchman, who manages to be within about 1.5% as productive as an American while working 20% less tells an American something about productivity, the American might want to grab a pen and take notes.