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Apple Rumored To Remove Old-School USB Ports On Next MacBook Pro (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: First the headphone jack, now the USB port? Rumor has it that Apple may get rid of the USB 3.0 port and the Magsafe port (where the charger plugs in) on the next generation of MacBooks. Japanese tech site Macotakara, which accurately predicted that Apple would kill the headphone jack on the iPhone 7, now also claims that the USB port is on the way out. The move would be similar to Apple's latest 12-inch MacBook and its streamlined profile. There's also word that Apple may discontinue the 11-inch MacBook Air to focus instead on the 13-inch laptop. Discontinuing the 11-inch MacBook Air would also potentially boost sales on the 12-inch MacBook. If these rumors are in fact true, then the new MacBooks will have only a USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 ports. Both of these ports are about the size of the part of an iPhone charger that plugs into the phone. But since most laptop accessories still plug in via the USB port, Apple owners might have to use an adaptor, or upgrade their technology. Meanwhile, the new MacBooks would likely be charged through the USB-C port or Thunderbolt 3 port. Currently, Apple already sells a USB-C dock with other USB and HDMI ports for $79. The USB-C port uses USB 3.1 Standard, according to PCWorld, which will connect to a wide variety of accessories, such as external hard drives, cameras, and printers. The USB 3.1 can also transfer data between the host computer and the peripheral accessories at a speed of 10 gigabits per second, which is twice as fast as the USB 3.0. Apple is expected to reveal the new Macs at an October 27th event in Cupertino, California.

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  1. I only want one feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a 2011 MacBook Pro.

    There is only one feature I require to justify an upgrade: a matte display.

    Apple didn't not provide it. Therefore, no upgrade.

  2. No MagSafe would be a step backwards by seoras · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That would not be good. I've tripped over my power cable far too many times and been grateful for having Magsafe.
    I had hoped Apple would find a way of continuing MagSafe with USB-C even though they didn't with the MacBook.
    The only way I can envisage Apple keeping MagSafe with USB-C is to re-located it to the power brick end of the cable.
    Feels like a big step backwards if they don't do something to retain one of the best psychical features of Mac laptops.

    1. Re:No MagSafe would be a step backwards by rgbscan · · Score: 4, Informative

      They already sell these on Amazon. Look for "breakaway usb-c cable"

  3. COURAGE by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Funny

    No standard USB ports?!?!?

    Such COURAGE!

    /s

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    1. Re:COURAGE by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Meh. Most people who carry around USB devices can carry around a different cable just as easily. In the grand scheme of don't care, it's a lot less annoying than the headphone jack would have been.

      And as much as I think removing the HDMI port is annoying, the truth is that I already have to carry around a retractable HDMI cable, so carrying an adapter for the relatively rare situations where I use the HDMI cable isn't that annoying either.

      What is annoying, if true, is the removal of the SD card slot. Yes, Apple's SD card slot is many years out of date and should have been updated at least half a decade ago to support UHS-II, but Apple's inclusion of an SD card slot, slow as it is, has been a significant driving force in pushing camera companies to move to SD instead of CF, and has resulted in standardization that otherwise would not have happened.

      Without that anchor, the industry is very likely to devolve into the wild west of card formats again. In five years, some consumer-level cameras will use CFast, others will use UHS-II SD, and others will use XQD. I wouldn't be surprised to see three or four other formats by the time all is said and done.

      If true, this is a crippling blow for standards. And I really have to ask what makes this laptop "pro" at that point. It sounds like the only meaningful difference between it and the standard MacBook will be a second USB port. They're apparently dropping all the other distinguishing features that made it worth hundreds of dollars more—the HDMI port, the SD card slot, MagSafe... and the only thing replacing all that lost hardware functionality is a set of soft-reconfigurable action buttons at the top of the keyboard. Whee.

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    2. Re:Courage by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Funny

      I also don't understand why an Apple product needs a charger. By the time the battery runs out, it's already obsolete and you should buy a new model.

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    3. Re:COURAGE by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3

      What USB cable? All flash drives have the USB connector built in.

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    4. Re:COURAGE by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Funny

      With the way Apple is designing products these days, someone really ought to dig him up, strap magnets to him, and power half the Bay Area.

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  4. Escalation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm thinking of history.

    1) Apple removes optical drives. These were widely used, but on the decline.
    2) Apple removes 3.5mm jacks (how courageous). These are widely used, and holding steady.
    3) Apple removes USB. These are widely used, and moreover critical for many peripherals, especially mice, keyboards, and thumb-drives. (I'm sure it will be a courageous first step, and the early adopters will get a free $300 proprietary mouse included when they buy the computer.)

    They seem to be escalating. What next? Apple removes the monitor from the MacBook; although I guess if they did so it would easily let them create the thinnest, lightest, most portable MacBook ever.

    1. Re:Escalation? by maglor_83 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If this was about removing legacy USB, they would put 6 of the bloody things in.
      If this was about catering to customers needs, they would have a 4-2 split.
      If this was about making money from selling dongles, they would do what they have done.

    2. Re:Escalation? by Megane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      SCSI? nobody else (in the consumer market) used that

      ADB? nobody else used that (it was for the keyboard/mouse, not printers)

      Mini-DIN 8 RS-422 serial? nobody else used that

      Firewire? hardly any non-Mac people used that, and most of the PCs that did used the stupid Sony iLink connector with no power so they could connect to cameras, and cameras don't use it anymore

      Optical out? That stupid little switch in my MBP's headphone jack gets stuck into "optical cable present" mode when I unplug headphones, but fortunately I can store a toothpick (to unjam it) in the hinge area above the keyboard and it will still close properly

      USB A? There are over 15 years worth of everybody using it, and the plugs are everywhere. I have a crate overflowing with cables and various thingies that use it. But nothing yet with USB C. Don't get me wrong, I think USB C is a good thing, but even modern TV sets that got rid of S-video inputs in favor of HDMI still have composite video inputs.

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  5. Do they want to sell these things? by HBI · · Score: 3, Informative

    One gets the impression that they don't. I mean, I wasn't their market anyway. I absolutely despise the no-buttons touch panel on recent Macbooks. But not having any useful ports completely rules out the device even for my wife.

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  6. Re:MagSafe have save me tons of money by chinton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you've lost multiple hard drives and a broken screen because you keep tripping over the cords, maybe you need to think about where you are plugging things in.

  7. Not happy at all for a "Pro" laptop from Apple.... by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been a long time Apple supporter, even going so far as to pay all the $$$'s for one of the late 2013 "trash can" Mac Pro workstations, shortly after it was released. (I did that only because I owned both a 2006 and 2008 Mac Pro tower before it, and both were excellent computers that I got years of daily use out of -- paying for themselves several times over with the work and entertainment value I got out of them. I figured I'd invest in the new direction Apple was taking things, with faith they'd make sense of what seemed at first to be kind of a step backwards in design and functionality.)

    Well, unfortunately, what I'm seeing is a trend away from Apple catering at all to "power users" or "computer enthusiasts". Under Steve Jobs, at least their push towards minimalist styling/design was still well-balanced with giving the user what they really needed to get things done. (EG. When Apple declared the 3.5" floppy was dead and removed it? The rest of the Windows PC world thought that was crazy. Yet the advent of IOMega Zip disks, Syquest cartridges, dirt cheap CDR media, flash drives, SD and CF cards and more proved Apple was right. They were just pushing people a little further towards that "cutting edge" of tech, instead of sitting complacent in the middle of the "tried and true, but fading in usability" zone of technology. And when Apple decided to quit including optical drives in any of their systems? Again, some people threw fits but it's ultimately proved to be the sensible solution. External CD/DVD/Blu-Ray players and recorders are cheap and easy to plug in if/when needed, and they don't bulk up or weigh down a computer when you DON'T intend to use one. It also means when they break down, which they do fairly often with all their mechanical parts inside, they're easier to replace.)

    With Thunderbolt? I feel like Apple tried, once again, to "skate to where they thought the puck was going to be" instead of to where it was. But that time, perhaps they took a chance and weren't quite right. Nonetheless, it wasn't really a big problem for users because it was only there in addition to plenty of other ports. The ability for Apple's Thunderbolt port to double as a "Mini DisplayPort" connector ensured people would use it with a dongle to attach extra monitors even if they never used it for anything else. And on higher end systems like my Mac Pro? It's actually quite useful since you pretty much need some kind of external drive enclosure to have a decent amount of storage space directly attached to the machine. There are a number of good options for multi-drive cabinets with Thunderbolt connections, and it provides great throughput without bottlenecking a USB bus.

    But now, I feel like options are getting deleted just because Apple would prefer to have fewer configuration options to stock in their lineup, or because they're pushing change just for the sake of being different. (That whole elimination of matte vs. glossy displays is a great example, even if it still happened under Steve Job's watch. There was clearly a LOT of demand for anti-glare screen displays, yet Apple simply ignored it and told people "Tough luck. We think you'll love our product enough to buy it anyway, so we don't care.")

    This move to USB-C? I think the new standard is just fine for netbooks or "Ultraportables" where people are primarily concerned about how light and thin it is, and probably don't WANT to connect very much up to it. But it definitely has no business in a Macbook PRO laptop being sold any time this year ... Not unless it's just there in additional to a couple of regular USB 3.0 ports. Otherwise, you're ignoring a universal standard that has no signs of dying yet. Go shop for a new inkjet printer and tell me how many have USB-C connections on them vs. traditional USB right now. Same for any digital cameras with connection cables.)

    Secondarily, I agree that this change means eliminating a connector (mag-safe) that really does offer a great feature that competing laptops never had. IMO,

  8. Re:only 2 ports and no power jack? by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Funny

    How fucking thing does this $1200+ laptop need to be

    To meet Apple standards it needs to be at least 8.562 thing

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  9. Replacing USB-A with USB-C != removing USB by j2.718ff · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple may get rid of the USB 3.0 port

    I've only heard about plans to replace USB-A with USB-C, not to eliminate USB ports. USB-C is an actual standard that already exists. USB-A to USB-C adapters are easy to come by, and as time goes on, more and more devices will be using USB-C. I have no problem with this. In fact, my cell phone already has a USB-C port.