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Nurses In Australia Face Punishment For Promoting Anti-Vaccination Messages Via Social Media (medicalxpress.com)
HughPickens.com writes: Medical Express reports that nurses and midwives promoting anti-vaccination messages in Australia could face punishment including being slapped with a caution and having their ability to practice medicine restricted. Serious cases could be referred to an industry tribunal, where practitioners could face harsher penalties such as having their registration suspended or cancelled. The Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia released the vaccination standards in response to what it described as a small number of nurses and midwives promoting anti-vaccination via social media. The statement also urges members of the public to report nurses or midwives promoting anti-vaccination. Promoting false, misleading or deceptive information is an offense under national law and is prosecutable by the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency. "The board will consider whether the nurse or midwife has breached their professional obligations and will treat these matters seriously," the statement said. However Dr. Hannah Dahlen, a professor of midwifery at the University of Western Sydney and the spokeswoman for the Australian College of Midwives, worries the crackdown may push people with anti-vaccination views further underground. "The worry is the confirmation bias that can occur, because people might say: 'There you go, this is proof that you can't even have an alternative opinion.' It might in fact just give people more fuel for their belief systems."
what the fuck are you on about. You still hve those freedoms in Australia. What you don't have is the right to claim you are a medical practitioner and provide advise to people that goes completely against those qualifications. If you want to support Anti Vaxxers that is fine, but don't try and claim you are doing it as a doctor or Nurse etc. Doctors, Nurses, midwives etc have a duty of care and telling people to not get vaccinations is in breach of that duty of care.
My niece got a full blown case of the measles form the vaccine. The doctor was a bit shocked. But law measle cases have to be reported to the CDC, which the doctor did. But CDC stats never recorded the case. Getting the measles from the vaccine doesn't count. See how that works?
Measles vaccines are attenuated -- which means it contains a live strain. If just a fraction of a fraction of this attenuated strain gets transmitted, some will ultimately mutate into alternate forms and reappear. Giving such a large breeding ground to these viruses might eventually lead to a strain even worse than any known natural strain.
Things are rarely black-and-white, though most people seem to see it that way. It's dangerous when our leaders loose color vision, but it is easy to understand why. Just follow the green.
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The vaccinations do not give immunity to everyone that gets them. Also, some people are unable to get them for medical reasons.
That's even more reason why everyone who CAN get a vaccine SHOULD.
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Actually Nurses know what is going on much more than what doctors do. And often they are the smartest people in the room. Doctors worked hard for their title but not necessarily because of extreme intelligence. Just as long as you have average intelligence and the time and money to invest in med school you too can become a doctor. Most people who become Nurses (Many different levels) PA, NP etc... Do so because they rather be helping people, and not stuck in school.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Actually the are EVEN allowed to spread their opinion - they just can't identify themselves while doing so. When you're representing others, those others DO get a LEGITIMATE stake in what you say as people perceive them as speaking for you. If they say things you don't agree with, you have every right to revoke their privilege to speak for you.
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Well, think of it this way.
A housing development has a rash (pun intended) of break-ins.
They get together and decide to institute mandatory installation of alarm systems.
The number of break-ins goes down in direct proportion to the number of houses have alarm systems installed, until all the houses have them installed, and the number of break-ins is almost, but not quite, zero per year.
After a while, people start to think 'we don't have a break-in problem, why are we mandating these alarm systems?'
New houses under construction start to be built without alarm systems. What do you suppose happens to the break-in rate?
The price of freedom (from preventable disease) is eternal vigilance (of vaccination rates.)
It's real easy to say 'we don't need vaccines' when you've never seen a playmate in polio braces, or when pictures of a wall full of children in iron lungs is a quaint historical anachronism. When you don't have an Uncle Bob who's sterile from a bout of mumps. When having a dead sibling is unusual, and probably the result of accident or something, and not 'measles.'
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Clearly you missed the bit about getting it *BEFORE* he was due his vaccination. However that aside the measles vaccination is not 100% effective, so even if you have had it you can still get measles. Its bloody rare but I personally had the misfortune to catch it as a young adult (literally a couple of days before my degree finals started) and I can assure you it is fucking unpleasant, and for me personally disastrous for my career prospects going forward.
Anti vaxers are the scum of society in my view.
Actually the herd immunity also protects group #1 since there will always be some cases in that group that is not 100% effective on their own. Nitpicking I know...
the measles vaccination is not 100% effective, so even if you have had it you can still get measles. Its bloody rare but I personally had the misfortune to catch it as a young adult
99.7% of vaccinated individuals are immune if they went through the full treatment. If you only received one vax shot then it's somewhere between 80-95% of individuals are immune.
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Have you ever seen scientific study of the full schedule of vaccines in a double blind?
No and you haven't either. Conducting such a study would be hugely unethical because it would involve exposing large numbers of people to preventable diseases with known means of prevention. Double blind studies are ideal when possible but there are plenty of other valid means of studying diseases without resorting to double blind studies.
A vaccine may be safe, but the full schedule of vaccines has NEVER been studied.
Not true at all. It has been studied extensively. Furthermore there is substantial empirical evidence than any safety concerns about the full schedule of vaccines is a very small effect if it exists at all.
Now, tell me. where is the actual science on the full schedule of vaccines?
In the clinical studies for each and every vaccine and diseases that could conceivably be related to their administration. I suggest you go speak to an epidemiologist since you are in need of a clue about this. I'm sure they'll be happy to fill you in.
In other words, do you have scientific proof that a full vaccine schedule is safe. Until then, you're just sciency not scientific.
Yes we do have proof that a full vaccine schedule is safe. Scientific proof in the form of a measurably healthier populace and hugely reduced incidence of disease with barely any measurable side effects despite copious studies about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.