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FBI Probes Newly Discovered Hillary Clinton Emails and Reopens Investigation (telegraph.co.uk)
The FBI said Friday it is reviewing newly discovered emails related to Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server to determine whether she properly handled classified emails. The reopening of the investigation comes after the FBI recently "learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the Clinton investigation," FBI director James Comey said. Comey added, however, that "FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant." It is also unclear "how long it will take us to complete this additional work." FBI's announcement today is "certain" to become an issue in the final two weeks of the presidential campaign, however. Donald Trump is naturally pleased hearing the news, at New Hampshire, Trump said the new probe offered the FBI the chance to correct a "grave miscarriage of justice." He added, "We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office." Supporters responded with chants of "Lock her up!" Trump added that the email investigation is "bigger than Watergate."
However, they do plan to take 5 years to analyze the data, then decide that despite being complete flagrant violations of Federal law, the information leaked is no longer a national security issue, so they will not recommend any charges.
Actually, Comey should drop out of the investigation, and someone else at the FBI should take over from him. He is either stupid, or compromised, or both.
And Trump is in no position to drive this or any other thing. Only people who can is the Obama administration. Yeah, WikiLeaks has been exposing all this, but they already have the standard template response of Putin pulling their strings, so why are they so worried?
I don't think 99.9% of Trump supporters have a problem with a female president. They have a problem with THIS female as president. If she supported their positions on things and wasn't horrible corruption incarnate, they would be more than happy to vote for her.
whiny asshats that don't like Hillary because she's a woman
No. I would've supported a President Jill Stein. I believe she'd be a better choice than Donald Trump.
I cannot support Hillary because she is corrupt. The depth of her corruption is breathtaking and her blatant disregard for the rule of law is a danger to the republic.
As the loser of a fixed race, are you sure he still feels that way?
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The depth of Republicans spending three decades trying to convince Americans that she's corrupt is what's breathtaking. How many bloody investigations have they held into her? Now, how many times has she been convicted?
"99 dead duelists of Dios on the wall. 99 dead duelists of Dios! Take one's ring, pass it around..."
Had Sanders been the candidate, he would have been running 15 points ahead of Trump right now
If by fixed race you mean more people voting for the other person, then...well, who gives a fuck what he thinks after this is over.
I predict a day or two before the election the FBI will say everything is just peachy.
That might just push some fence sitters over to Hillary.
It sucks, but saddle up for 8 years of Hillary - it's going to be bad.
Yes, vote for the vaxxer-apologist who wants a moratorium on pesticides and whose primary economic policy initiative - ordering the Fed use quantitative easing to forgive student debt - is based on a complete misunderstanding of the relationship between the government and the Fed, and what quantitative easing even is.
"99 dead duelists of Dios on the wall. 99 dead duelists of Dios! Take one's ring, pass it around..."
Story where Terry McAuliffe (a long time Clinton friend) gave the lead FBI investigator's wife $500,000 for a campaign run in 2015 during the investigation. If you know Terry McAuliffe, you know dealing with him is basically the same as dealing with the Clintons.
I think you need to exclude anyone who took bribes from the Clintons as well.
That's a cynically lazy attitude. Corrupt people need to be held accountable, or the situation will only get worse.
And even if all politicians are corrupt, they still vary by degrees of corruption. Remove the worst offenders and the average corruption of the whole goes down.
Apparently, there is suppose to be another dump sometime next week which according to wiki (doubt if I believe it) should "get Hillary arrested". Now, as much as I think the Clinton's are crooks, and should be in jail, I doubt it will happen.
Then why wait a week before the election?If it's something big enough to get her arrested immediately they should release it now. Anything else would take too long through the system that she couldn't even be charged until after the election, just due to investigation necessary given the source and circumstances of the release.
Interesting though, the Clinton's have transferred over 2 million dollars from their accounts in the USA, to Dubai. Are they planning some sort of escape in the near future, to a country that will not extradite them to the USA? Why transfer all of your assets to another country?
I'd say $2 million hardly counts as all of their assets.
She has to know, if she loses, Trump, even though I still have it in the back of my mind he only got into this election to help Hillary, by taking all of the spotlight off of other candidates, may of had a "come to Jesus meeting" and got his mind right with God...I hope so!
If Trump does get elected he will run headfirst into the brick wall of reality and the US will have it's own Brexit scenario. My guess is most of his supporters would sour to him quickly and he would certainly not get a second term.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Stalin wasn't ever convicted of crimes against humanity either. Was he a good leader?
For all intents and purposes it's a re-open of the case. Technically it's a new investigation, but it's in regards to more emails from the same server.
That was kind of my thought a few months ago, how nice it would be if Trump and Clinton both dropped out and it was Pence vs Kaine.
I've thought for a while that it would be to the benefit of the country and both parties to form a pact that, regardless of who wins the election, congress will immediately impeach them.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
She & Bill have transferred almost 2 million dollars from accounts in the USA, to Dubai. Now why do that? Planning on fleeing the country on November the 9th if you lose?
When your political opponent is threatening to throw you in jail if they win, having a fallback may be prudent. Shit, I'd flee too if I thought Trump was going to win at this point.
The first investigation found that she was grossly negligent and irresponsible in her handling of classified material - what they didn't find was 'intent'.
Will the recently arrested NSA "leaker" be let off like her? After all the FBI seems to be saying that so far there was no intent to distribute the classified materials he had at home. So he too is merely guilty of have classified material on a personal computer without permission.
I've been hearing this naive and silly response a lot lately. Libs with agendas forget that it took that long to finally nail Al Capone. Hillary is the new Al Capone. Just because multiple investigations don't result in her direct prosecution doesn't mean she isn't guilty. In fact, in a number of investigations she was found guilty, there was just no real penalty (i.e. White House Travel Staff). Point in fact, Comey said she did violate laws related to handling classified material but that no prosecutor would attempt to prosecute the case so they recommended that the DOJ NOT press charges. But lying Hillary and others like yourself, run around saying that the FBI found her not guilty. False. They said she was guilty but that they thought it wasn't worth while. Meanwhile Bill Clinton is running interference with the DOJ on an airplane and the chief FBI investigator's wife is getting $800,000 in campaign donations from Hillary's "friends". It's no wonder Comey said it wasn't worth investigating. This is classic mafia-style tactics; racketeering. So remember, Al Capone murdered by the dozens for years but was never convicted of murder but he was never convicted of it. That doesn't mean he wasn't a murderer and likewise the lack of a conviction to date for Hillary doesn't mean she's not thoroughly corrupt.
So it was the Republicans who set up Clinton Foundation and traded favors and money like candy?
MSNBC reaction to the latest Wikileaks Clinton Foundation leak. (for those not familiar with American news outlets; MSNBC is a left-leaning organization and normally a cheerleader for Democrats)
Now, how many times has she been convicted?
Lack of conviction can mean two things. 1) person is innocent, or 2) person is guilty but the accusers couldn't come up with enough evidence and/or the person is very good at dodging the legal system (perhaps because they're a trained lawyer)
It's pretty fucking clear by now that Clinton belongs in category 2)
Right, just like the GOP rigs it's internal game and always has; they just screwed up this time because none of the clowns the put up could yell as long or loud or bloviate as wildly at the Trumpster.
If you think the GOP is blameless at this game, go look into what happened in 1976 between Reagan and Ford. Political Brass knuckles is what happened: horse trading, double-crossing, and every power game you can think of and the Reagan (then the outsider) clique almost took the party away from the professionals. "Physical altercations on the convention floor" is a quote from an attendee.
Politics is a vicious, deadly struggle for money and power, and don't you forget it.
Any time Hillary is in one place for more than five minutes you'll find two things -- a steaming pile of shit and at least one other asshole around to provide plausible deniability. She's incredibly smart, I'll give her that, which is why she's so fucking terrifying.
Huh? Comey - a Republican - is being criticized for Democrats for organizing an 11-days-before-the-election hit-and-run against her, and your argument is that he's biased toward her? And that's why he did this 11 days before the election, I take it?
"99 dead duelists of Dios on the wall. 99 dead duelists of Dios! Take one's ring, pass it around..."
But if we have a hung result, why would the GOP vote in McMullin as the president elect instead of Trump, who has been their democratically elected nominee?
Two fairly obvious reasons:
- The GOP establishment hates Trump. Sure, they're backing him now because they have to oppose the Democrats' nominee, but if they had another option they might take it.
- Trump's support among the people has slipped pretty dramatically since he won the nomination. I'd bet that if we got a do-over on the primaries, that he'd lose pretty convincingly. That could give the leadership the justification they need to switch to someone else.
It would probably still be a long shot, but I could see it happening. (Assuming for the moment that it was realistic that we could end up with neither major-party candidate getting a majority of the electoral vote.)
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
No, not new; I just haven't had all the idealism crushed out of me yet.
It may be a stupid-ass canard, but can it work? I imagine right now every congressman and senator with an R after their name is leaning hard on every unofficial FBI contact they have to investigate hard any tiny infraction, just because it makes Hillary look bad - and if they investigate hard enough and from enough angles, eventually something has to stick. No person is entirely law-abiding.
Remember folks, Bernie was telling the truth when he said Hillary was rigging the election, but Trump is lying when he said the same thing.
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You're clearly a typical racist Democrat aren't you? Guess what? We dont' care what the color of a person's skin is. What matters is how evil they are, which is why Hillary is considered the anti-Christ.
I'm Never-Trump. I'm also fully supportive of the issue being fully investigated, and Clinton being treated exactly like every other person that holds a security clearance. Or are you saying that she should be treated differently because she's a woman? Or because she's rich? Or because she's white?
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
According to the investigation, only three emails on server had any classified marking on them.
She was bribing people to get things marked as unclassified. Look, I admire your ardent defense of the Clintons, but at this point it's like trying to defend the legitimacy of Bush's invasion of Iraq (you can't prove that the WMDs weren't shipped out to Syria!)
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
There's some pretty damning stuff about the Clinton Foundation in those emails (the crime Hillary was hiding by the felonies she committed with the server). No one cares, of course, because we're all struggling under the weight of corruption fatigue. The smoking gun that Hillary took millions to support the likes of Qatar (the last bastion of mass slavery in the modern world, with ISIS-funding government - very evil fuckers) is just a big "meh".
We expect all the politicians to be corrupt. So Hillary is the most corrupt politician in US history? Exceeds expectations - let's promote her! Even the right has no fucks left to give at this point.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Trump's support has not slipped, it's grown. Difference is that during the primaries, people were looking at just the GOP electorate, and Trump's support levels among them, and there, he was always hovering about 30-40%. Just assuming that the GOP voters were 50% of the electorate, that would make his total support 15-20%. Today, it's somewhere around 40% of the total population.
Also, since Trump won, there are Congressmen and Senators who were happy to back him. Yeah, some of them panicked a few weeks ago when the hot mike videos came out, but once the election is over and it's just up to them, they'd support who their voters supported. So I don't see them electing McMullin either. In fact, considering that no major UT official has supported Trump, McMullin should be carrying his home state and Trump should be getting 0% there, but that's not happening: in fact, Trump is still the leader, albeit a plurality rather than a majority.
It won't be a huge problem, because it's just a mountain of evidence that Hillary is the most corrupt politician in US history. No one cares. The general acceptance that pay-for-play is "just how the government works now" makes everything a non-scandal.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Actually, Comey should drop out of the investigation, and someone else at the FBI should take over from him. He is either stupid, or compromised, or both.
Wouldn't matter. Apparently everyone on the investigation *except* Comey wanted her indicted:
The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved claiming that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.
“No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute — it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.
I'm Never-Trump. I'm also fully supportive of the issue being fully investigated, and Clinton being treated exactly like every other person that holds a security clearance. Or are you saying that she should be treated differently because she's a woman? Or because she's rich? Or because she's white?
No, but I just really feel that this entire thing has pretty much been fully investigated already. Not to mention all the other times people have cried "wolf" and found nothing after it was fully investigated. This just feels like endless fishing in hopes of finding something rather than actual evidence of wrongdoing on a scale that matters. In fact, I feel this is all they have is a re-opening of the investigation, not any actual hopes of investigating anything. I really doubt they are going to find something, investigate it, write up their briefs, and put forth their case in the two weeks before the election. It seems like it is just one last chance at spreading FUD about somebody they don't like.
Right, after all he was never convicted of murder, conspiracy to murder, illegal alcohol sales, prostitution, illegal gambling, bribery, intimidation, etc.
Clean as a Clinton!
Peace is easy to achieve, just surrender. Liberty is much harder get/keep.
This is your best apologism? Open amorality? Go fuck yourself. If all politicians are corrupt, FIRE THEM ALL by voting in people WHO ARE NOT. Hiding the corruption, or worst of all, FUCKING VOTING FOR IT, will only end in a terrible crash of civilization. If you're fine with it, if you're numb with it, you are fucking BROKEN.
Disgusting.
I don't understand it at all.
If Trump loses, the Republican party will have been dealt a terrible setback that will take years to recover from.
If Trump wins, the Republican party is over.
At this point, nobody should be pulling harder for Hillary than the Republican establishment.
There's some pretty damning stuff about the Clinton Foundation in those emails (the crime Hillary was hiding by the felonies she committed with the server). No one cares, of course, because we're all struggling under the weight of corruption fatigue.
What's the damning stuff? The hint that big donations lead to influence with the candidate? That's completely standard politics, if you want to be sure you can meet with a politician donate a pile of cash to them, the only difference here is the donations went to a charity rather than the candidate's campaign fund.
Hell, it's standard practice for President's to give Ambassadorships to big donors. Are you going to claim that the possibility that Clinton gave extra access to charity donors is really so much worse?
The smoking gun that Hillary took millions to support the likes of Qatar
By "took millions" you apparently mean accepted a donation to her charity.
And by "support", you mean arranged a meeting and/or Clinton Foundation event in Qatar, ie, exactly the thing that charities do. Oh yeah, and she did it while being a private citizen.
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Mittens had "binders of women" to ensure that, should he win, he would be sure to have a large list of qualified women to appoint and hire. He didn't say he HAD them, he said that women's groups had DELIVERED "binders full of women" to him.
"I had the chance to pull together a cabinet, and all the applicants seemed to be men... I went to a number of women's groups and said, 'Can you help us find folks?' and they brought us whole binders full of women."
This is Romney being sure that he couldn't be accused of being sexist, being sure that the "war on women" thing wouldn't apply to him, by working with people on both sides to avoid even the APPEARANCE of sexism.
It became, of course, "proof" of his sexism, with predictable media slant.
The message was clear: any Republican, whether or not they are sexist, will be painted as sexist by the media, the painting will be fully effective.
ALL this accomplished was the removal of "is not a sexist" from the list of requirements for Republican presidential candidates- after all, you'll be considered a sexist just for having (R) by your name, no matter your history, intentions, or statements.
I wonder if that had any effect? Now that you've opened up the pool of Republican presidential candidates to sexists, what would be the end result of that? Hrm....
"Actually it's rather bizarre that Comey would throw a bombshell like this 11 days before the election."
I know, right?
You'd figure $600k to Coney's wife's political campaign would have settled the issue once and for all, no?
-Styopa
> Republican leadership might regard Trump as a manipulatable puppet
This guy is campaigning on a platform that includes congressional term limits, has promised to appoint a special prosecutor, and is openly calling on everyone to be aware of voter fraud and even election fraud, which calls the entire democratic process into question (reminder: the only reason our government is considered legitimate is because of the democratic process). Meanwhile, almost all of his scandals and problems come from him doing whatever the fuck he wants to anyone he wants, at any time he wants.
If anyone thinks that Trump is their puppet, they are fucking deluded. I seriously doubt the RNC thinks that for one second.
If you're still a Hillary supporter, it has to be through willful ignorance.
Hands over ears
Eyes closed
Saying, lalalalalalalala
When your political opponent is threatening to throw you in jail if they win
Are you actually that dumb, or just pretending you can't parse the words so you can pretend you're that dumb so you can fake being outraged so you can try to provide a corrupt Clinton some cover with what you hope is a low-information audience? Which is it?
She said she was glad someone like him wasn't in charge of law enforcement. And he said that if someone like him had been, she'd be in jail. And he's right. The only reason she wasn't indicted was because her political supporters run the only entity that gets a say in the matter. If a more objective, and less subservient-to-the-Clinton-machine DoJ had been making the call based on the evidence presented, she'd be in the same sort of legal jeopardy that other people have seen for doing far, far less.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
She mishandled some emails to keep her political strategies out of the hands of her enemies
No, she conducted all of her official email on a home computer and destroyed federal records while under subpoena in order to hide the enormous level of corruption going on - activity which made her family very wealthy.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.