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Payback? Russia Gets Hacked, Revealing Putin Aide's Secrets (nbcnews.com)
Ukrainian activists have compromised 2,337 messages in the Microsoft Outlook accounts of two assistants to a top aide of Vladimir Putin. An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes NBC News:
A Ukrainian group calling itself Cyber Hunta has released more than a gigabyte of emails and other material from the office of one of Vladimir Putin's top aides, Vladislav Surkov, that show Russia's fingerprints all over the separatist movement in Ukraine. While the Kremlin has denied the relationship between Moscow and the separatists, the emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
"This is a serious hack," said Maks Czuperski, head of the Digital Forensic Research Lab of the Atlantic Council, which has searched through the email dump and placed selected emails online. "We have seen so much happen to the United States, other countries at the hands of Russia," said Czuperski. "Not so much to Russia. It was only a question of time that some of the anonymous guys like Cyber Hunta would come to strike them back."
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that the U.S. "had no role" in the breach -- but when asked if the material was authentic, replied there was "nothing to indicate otherwise."
"This is a serious hack," said Maks Czuperski, head of the Digital Forensic Research Lab of the Atlantic Council, which has searched through the email dump and placed selected emails online. "We have seen so much happen to the United States, other countries at the hands of Russia," said Czuperski. "Not so much to Russia. It was only a question of time that some of the anonymous guys like Cyber Hunta would come to strike them back."
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that the U.S. "had no role" in the breach -- but when asked if the material was authentic, replied there was "nothing to indicate otherwise."
Breaking news!
Reports state that Vladislav Surkov has been seen en route to Siberia.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
I approve of governments hacking each other and sharing each other's dirty little secrets with the public. Adversarial systems work well in the service of justice and honesty.
I hope someone hacks Merkel's and May's E-mails too and publishes them. Unfortunately, the Germans are likely too careful to let that happen.
Emails seem to be from 2014, so I would not say this is conclusive evidence one way or the other about Russia and WikiLeaks.
I would expect WikiLeaks to show up in Russian emails regardless of their involvement. If I was Putin, and not involved in the hacking, I would be delighted to receive credit for mucking up US politics. I can easily imagine Putin bragging or laughing it up with his cronies over email.
And CNN has one big hard on! Wolf is said to be walking around like Ron Burgundy.
emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine,
yes, because youll need the assistance of the country to which your people wish to defect in order to achieve anything. its unfortunate that the country split like this, but NATO isnt entirely faultless in this. by encouraging aggressive expansion contrary to post world war 2 agreement it gave a lot of crimeans good cause to be afraid.
which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
and done an excellent job to prevent western powers from expanding NATO into an oil producing country rich in natural resources. the difference is a hacking group in the Ukrane exposed what everyone knew to be true: logistics, supplies, tactical and political guidance was coming from the kremlin in order to secure a defecting minority province. this was the pretext similar to both the US wars in Iraq...liberation and the support of a minority anti-government group. In the case of the US hack, the american people were made to know that which they had no idea. American voters were shown that Bernie Sanders had absolutely no chance of a fair election, and that the political party loyal to clinton was doing everything from influencing coverage at sites like Facebook to outright spinning at major news outlets to cover up an email scandal that for any other american would have been a multiple life-term felony (chelsea manning for example)
Good people go to bed earlier.
You mean, other than than Girkin bragging about the shootdown on VKontakte? Or the photo of the BUK battery with one missile missing.
Ukraine banned commercial only from flying low (below 32000 ft) because there was no suspicion Russia would provide their troops with weaponry useful only against planes with no direct combat roles, as those troops were thinly disguised as "not active duty soldiers".
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
And there's the Russian troll. How's St. Petersburg? The weather getting chilly over there?
A commercial flight had flown over the exact same area several hours before without incident. Since the Russians hadn't had the Buk missile system in place at that time the flight flew on its way without incident.
Once the Buk system was in place Russian troops, with the help of their terrorist allies, shot down MH-17. They bragged about shooting down a "Ukrainian" plane, even posted videos of themselves celebrating the act. Their joyous phone calls and postings on social media were also recorded.
Only after they realized they had shot down a commercial airliner did they then frantically try to deny they're the ones who shot it down. They tried to remove their videos and postings but copies had already been made. When the plane fell to the ground the Russians and their terrorist allies then disturbed the crime scene by going through the passengers personal belongings, including taking people's credit cards and cash.
To further try and cover up their crime they refused access to the Dutch investigators for several days.
Unfortunately for the Russians, all the evidence pointed to them shooting the plane down, including pictures of the Buk system which came into Ukraine with all its tubes filled, then leaving immediately after the shoot down with at least one empty tube.
This video shows MH-17 falling to the ground after the shooting, being filmed by either a terrorist or Russian troop. Also, near the end of the video, at the 6:25 mark, a recording of a Russian newscaster reporting on the shoot down and stating the terrorists had shot the plane down. Since you speak Russian you will be able to understand her words and may even recognize her from your daily propaganda newscasts.
Of course you'll deny what she's saying but it doesn't matter. The world knows the truth. Russia is supporting the terrorists in Ukraine and Russia was involved with, if not responsible for, the shooting down a civilian airliner.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Zero evidence has been presented that Russia is "guilty" of anything ... But American Exceptionalists seem eager....
I came across this the other day in a different context and found it interesting. I had never heard about "whataboutism" or "tu quoque" for the Latin lovers out there.
"Whataboutism"
Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[1][2] It represents a case of tu quoque or the appeal to hypocrisy,[3] a logical fallacy which attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Disinformation by ambiguity only works when your military commanders don't brag about what they did on social media, when they are not identifiable by name and picture easily, when they don't chat about the shot down plane and the rocket launcher over wiretapped mobile phones, and when the launcher isn't filmed and photographed all the way from and to the launch site and all the way back to Russia.
There's no lack of self-awareness like an American Exceptionalist accusing people of foolishly buying Russia propaganda. When you're sucking down supertanker-loads of third grade bullshit brought to you by the same people who said Saddam had ties to Al Queda and WMD's. People who questioned that propaganda were also accused of being Saddam lovers. SSDD.
Yes. Social media, not verified images from a drone, surveillance plane or satellite. Which the U.S. would have in spades, as much as it was wanting an excuse to boost troop levels in Eastern Europe to the highest levels they've been since WWII, and expand NATO to Ukraine after successfully overthrowing the elected government.
But we're all friends here, so I'd like to tell you about this great oceanfront property in Kansas that I'm selling to American Exceptionalists at a discount rate. It even comes with wifi, so you can spend your days online calling people naive for not believing every word that comes out of the military industrial complex.