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'Armies' of Twitter Bots Bolster Both The Trump And Clinton Campaigns (technewsworld.com)

An anonymous reader writes: During the first U.S. presidential debate, "automated accounts were tweeting messages with hashtags associated with the candidates. For example, #makeamericagreatagain or #draintheswamp for Trump; #imwithher for Clinton," according to TechNewsWorld. They cite researchers at PoliticalBots.org, who "found that one-third of all tweets using pro-Trump hashtags were created by bots and one-fifth of all Clinton hashtags were generated by automated accounts."

In addition, "Political actors and governments worldwide have begun using bots to manipulate public opinion, choke off debate, and muddy political issues... We know for a fact that Russia, as a state, has sponsored the use of bots for attacking transnational targets... We've had cases in Mexico, Turkey, South Korea and Australia. The problem is that a lot of people don't know bots exist, and that trends on social media or even online polls can be gamed by bots very easily."

After the second presidential debate, "Pro-Clinton bots 'fought back'," reported the BBC, adding that they were still outnumbered by the Trump bots.

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  1. That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's OK, Twitter fights back against the Trump bots by blocking hashtags from trending. When the FBI reopened the investigation into Hillary's emails, several pro-Trump hashtags (naturally) started trending ... briefly. Then Twitter caught on and suppressed them from appearing in the Trending list.

    The same does not apply to pro-Hillary hashtags, of course. Despite the fact that Trump hashtags frequently get many times more tweets than Hillary's hashtags (and if you assume those 33%/20% bot percentages are true and adjust for that, still more legitimate tweets), they're frequently blocked from trending.

    And Twitter wonders why no one wants to purchase them.

    1. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Same thing that happened in the UK with Brexit: The right propagandized for so long, and so vehemently, that they created their own reality which is separate from the rest of the world.

      They have their own wikipedias, creation museums, news sites, networks, religious views, and forums- all based on the presupposition that they are telling "the other point of view". But to separate yourself out society so far results in "us versus them".

      And "Republican Jesus" is at the helm...

      Most Americans have no problem with conservative views on politics and economics. The problem comes from social politics, separation of church and state, and the rejection of science. These issues are deal killers for the majority of Americans.

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    2. Re:That's OK, Twitter fights back... by DaHat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't it's rather silly to take any response off the table ahead of time?

      But to those who think a President Trump is actually the sort who might go and say.. order a first strike on Russia for making fun of him... the National Command Authority can still/would prevent such a launch.

      Yes, a Saturday Night Massacre is possible, it's inconceivable it would go on to the point that enough of a surviving chain would agree to relay the command.

      While I'm not a fan of either, I will at least acknowledge that a President Trump is more check-able than a President Clinton (45)

    3. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Tesen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the Tea Party has killed the RNC. Their strategy is: Find a bunch of people that have never obtained their dreams, blame a bunch of other people for it... presto! Votes!

      I forget the stats and I am to lazy to look then up atm, but listening earlier this week the number of Trump female supports who still support him yet believe he sexually assaulted those women is shocking. Not believing the allegations is one thing, but to believe them and go, "Fuck, who cares?" is something else.

    4. Re:That's OK, Twitter fights back... by lucm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's what Wikipedia has to say about totalitarianism.

      Totalitarian regimes stay in political power through an all-encompassing propaganda campaign that is disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by political repression, personality cultism, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of speech, mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror.

      When Twitter, Facebook or "Project Include" embark on a mission to quiet Trump supporters, when they collude to create an anti-Trump narrative, when they support the sabotage of Trump conferences, they're not liberal heroes working for the greater good of America. They're the vanguard of an intolerant movement that threatens democracy. Those people are far more dangerous than Trump.

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    5. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean like the Left's claim that women make 70cents on the male dollar, white males oppress women and minorities, countries can survive with open borders, and one in 5 women are raped on College? Those Progressive Left beliefs are repeated by the left as factual, though we have had facts that counter all of those talking points? How about the leftist claim that service industries should be forced to do your bidding even if it's against your personal beliefs, unless you are in "that" group of Muslims?

      The problem is the Left is more guilty than the right about denying facts, but media and politicians refuse to talk about their lies. Like why is the answer to Global Warming "pay shit loads of money to governments and private corporations which have no clear agenda on resolving the actual problems with Global Warming?" Ask that question and you are simply a denier, right? Fuck people are stupid.

    6. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Trump followers are plain old anti-intellectuals, the GOP created them with Fox news. The fact their own angry mob has ripped their party apart is nothing less than poetic justice.

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    7. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by shanen · · Score: 2

      If I ever got a mod point, that comment might have gotten it. Seems to be a general shortage of good mod points these days, eh?

      Extending your thought, I think you're giving too much credit to FAUX "news". I think most of the credit goes to Reagan's puppeteers. They gutted public education by creating a separate elite stream while converting most schools into pre-prison obedience training. At the same time, they "deregulated" news to allow for profits above public service, with the inevitable race to the bottom. Eyeballs-for-advertisers results in 24-hour disaster porn (like CNN, which so well serves the interests of such bad actors as terrorists) or investments in propaganda (like FAUX).

      If Trump has any acumen, it was in harvesting the mess for BILLIONS of dollars worth of free publicity, which has carried him within sight of the White House on an amazing tide of hatred and nihilism. Elsewhere I noticed another unmoderated comment that feared for the future of our country...

      My kingdom for a mod point? I guess my kingdom is this chair?

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    8. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It goes back to Gingrich. He's the architect of the breakdown of civility in Washington. In the 70s he set out to make party politics into the politics of demonization. There has always been some element of that, but he decided to amp it up and destroy any other approaches for negotiation and deal-making with the other party. Easier to get the base worked up if your opponent is a monster. It was his decision to go after Bill Clinton for Lewinsky. Its no surprise he's Trump's best bud.

    9. Re:That's OK, Twitter fights back... by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

      They "create an anti-Trump narrative" by reporting the things that he says and does. And most of it Trump is happy to double-down on. The only thing he doesn't double down on is Putin-bros (he did at one time) and pussy grabbing. Personally I'm surprised he didn't double-down on pussy-grabbing, it at least shows a little restraint on his part.

    10. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Just be careful, in the UK the anti-intellectuals were used by people who stood to gain from Brexit to win the referendum. Just look at people like Michael Gove and Boris Johnson, both intellectuals who took up the anti-intellectual cause to further their political careers.

      The result is a broken, divided country that is likely to break up in the next few years as Scotland and maybe Northern Ireland and Gibraltar go for independence or at least some kind of custom devolved EU membership.

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    11. Re: That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Tesen · · Score: 2

      Don't bring the "female supporter" angle into this unless you're ready to fully explore the role of Clinton in silencing and threatening the women who made rape accusations against her husband.

      Oh I didn't bring anything up... and you can fully explore the "alleged" Clinton role in suppressing the "alleged" victims of Bill Clinton all on your own. You will also note, that I did not accuse Trump of anything, I brought up the opinions of his female supporters who believe he sexually assaulted his accusers for his "alleged" attacks on them and yet still supports him.

      But hey... I'll give you a D- for trying to distract from my original statement...

    12. Re:That's OK, Twitter fights back... by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      How well did Obama do at preventing "civil unrest?"

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    13. Re:That's OK, Twitter fights back... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Civil Unrest by the America Hating left is acceptable, even encouraged. Civil Unrest by patriotic "Clingers" and "Deplorables" is not.

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  2. why does anybody care? by ooloorie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter is a cesspool of corporate and political propaganda, self-righteous indignation, and minor celebrities trying to make a name for themselves. Why does anybody listen to the crap these people post?

    1. Re:why does anybody care? by ooloorie · · Score: 2

      Because the "common man" still has the vote.

      What does the "common man" have to do with Twitter? The kind of people who inhabit Twitter are pretty much the opposite of the "common man".

  3. No problem for twitter by Kohath · · Score: 2

    Very few people use Twitter.

  4. Guess they hated #DraftOurDaughters on trending... by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really? Because this administration is waging a proxy war with Russia in Syria, and Hillary wants to create a no fly zone (which would put us at war with them), and she's the one telling everyone that the nukes launch 4 minutes after Hillary gives the order. The whole reason the satirical #DraftOurDaughters campaign (currently NSFW) was going on Twitter has merely served to highlight the fact that she's been very willing to go to war. I mean, it wasn't that long ago when Hillary was talking about how we would go to war with Iran.

    Feel free to argue, though: those are mostly videos of Hillary talking. Of course, if you want to say that you don't believe the things she says, I'll be forced to agree with you.

  5. Twitter? Seriously? by Ulfilas2000 · · Score: 2

    How can anyone with half a brain take seriously a communication system that limits people to 140 character posts? Does 141 characters overload primitive logic circuits?

  6. Um. that might be true by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    if Twitter and Facebook were extensions of the United States Government. Last I checked they were privately corporations. I suppose the argument could be made that it's bad for their shareholders to take sides, but the opposite could be made too. There's plenty of arguments to be had that a Trump presidency would be a disaster of trade wars and depressions if he implemented the policies he keeps saying he will. I'm not going to debate that topic right now, but I'm saying it's out there.

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    1. Re:Um. that might be true by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      Yeah, because a private corporation absolutely cannot be a pawn of political power. What's the privately owned cable news channel that the left loves to bash as being a mouthpiece for the right, again?

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  7. Concision by shanen · · Score: 2

    Twitter is a cesspool of corporate and political propaganda, self-righteous indignation, and minor celebrities trying to make a name for themselves. Why does anybody listen to the crap these people post?

    Admirably brief. Doth the lady (or gentleman) protest too much? Looks like a Twitter-trained response to me.

    Returning to your Comment Subject:

    Re:why does anybody care?

    My response is "Concision". Yes, Twitter is a cesspool on its best days, and much worse the rest of the time, but the quest for brevity brings a clarity to the mimes. There are a few gems there. Don't bet on finding any, mostly due to the TwitterBots of this selfsame story.

    As usual, I try to see things in terms of solutions, and one solution that could add significant value to Twitter would be TwitterBot filtering. Search results should reduce the visibility of the accounts that behave like TwitterBots. Of course that's a tough call, but one option might be a way to report a Tweet as appearing to come from a TwitterBot. The obvious problem is that you need to prevent the TwitterBots from reporting non-robotic accounts... (I don't want to recurse infinitely, but my first thought is that you discount reports until AFTER the account has established a reputation as being a human being, using information that is not easily visible to TwitterBot herders.)

    In spite of my verbosity I confess to significant experience with Twitter. I think the most recent gem of a meme might be the realization that the so-called Republican Party has given up on winning presidential elections by fair means. They will do literally ANYTHING to win. In 2000 that involved dragging the Supreme Court into the political battle, and this year it's the FBI. In Twitter form:

    Only way to win the White House is by partisan cheating!
    Using SCOTUS in 2000 and FBI this time!

    And the solution, a la Twitter:

    Hey, Putie! Before you send me my new nonpartisan FBI director, can your goons handle these #BadMimes on Twitter?

    True memes, you say?

    As usual, disappointed by the lack of insight on Slashdot and even more disappointed by the lack of "funny" on this target-rich topic. Again, considering solutions, I think the editors need to reduce the flow of stories to match the reduced readership and Slashdot needs a better financial model to fix everything else.

    (Are you still listening, whipslash? Or did you conclude that Slashdot isn't worth your valuable time?)

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    1. Re:Concision by ooloorie · · Score: 2

      In spite of my verbosity I confess to significant experience with Twitter. I think the most recent gem of a meme might be the realization that the so-called Republican Party has given up on winning presidential elections by fair means.

      And if you have been paying attention to the news, the so-called Democratic Party has also given up on winning presidential elections by fair means.

      My response is "Concision". Yes, Twitter is a cesspool on its best days, and much worse the rest of the time, but the quest for brevity brings a clarity to the mimes. There are a few gems there.

      True, and finding those gems surely matters to you when you're as superficial and ignorant as the rest of the people on Twitter.

  8. Re:Guess they hated #DraftOurDaughters on trending by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    What about stealthier hashtags like #StrongerToGetHer?

  9. Re: How'd the Trump bots outnumber the Clinton one by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

    Clinton's got a lot more money than Trump. She ought to be able to match him here. Conscious Decision maybe? I just don't know why.

    I looked at the article and they never explain how they determine whether a twitter account is a bot. An awful lot of Trump supporters on twitter are anonymous because the left loves to dox people with the wrong opinions and harass them or try to get them fired, etc. Are these really bots, or just anonymous twitter users?

    If they're bots, are they paid for by the campaigns? Where's the FEC filings for the Trump bot payments? We know Clinton's spending millions with Correct the Record for her fake online support. Either Trump isn't paying for fake online support, or he's violating campaign finance laws by not properly reporting it.

    Possibilities:

    1. These aren't actually bots, and the article is fake. Leftists always accuse their opponent of doing whatever they're doing. So once Correct the Record became known, suddenly some story pops up and makes the rounds in the media that Putin's got troll accounts making pro-Trump statements. Of course, the interviewed "researcher" provides absolutely no evidence of this. Not a screenshot, not a single account name, no numbers, absolutely nothing. This looks the same kind of thing. The authors need to show their work.

    2. These are bots and Trump is faking his FEC filings for some reason. That's a big story! Some journalist should get on that by tracing the origin of the bots to find out what company's paying for them, and how they're getting paid on the sly by Trump.

    3. The Trump "bots" are actually 4chan users who spam twitter to disseminate their propaganda. Real people, real support, just anonymous.

    4. The bots actually are from Putin, so they're not Trump's bots, they're Trump-supporting Putin bots. But again, we'd need to see some evidence of this.

    My guess is #1. I see this technique too often in the media. Accuse the opponent of doing whatever it is you're doing, state "facts" without proof to create fear, uncertainty and doubt and generally discredit the opposition. "Oh, Trump doesn't really have online support, it's fake bots," distracting from the actual, provable, and disturbing fake online support for Clinton from Correct the Record.

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  10. Re: How'd the Trump bots outnumber the Clinton one by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    No, you put your income on your tax returns. Are you saying that someone with $0 gross income is "rich"? They are losing money, not making it. And Trump is a loser.