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CenturyLink To Buy Level 3 For $34 Billion, Create a More Formidable Competitor To AT&T (bloomberg.com)

In what is seen as a move to build a more formidable competitor to AT&T, rival CenturyLink today announced it is buying Level 3 Communications for about $34 billion in cash and stock. From a report on Bloomberg: Both companies have amassed giant networks to haul internet traffic through deals over the years. Level 3 is one of the largest providers used by internet services including Netflix and Google to route traffic across the web, operations that would bolster CenturyLink's core offerings to businesses. Level 3 was the second-biggest U.S. provider of ethernet services -- running high-bandwidth internet connections for companies -- in the first half of this year, trailing only AT&T, according to Vertical Systems Group. CenturyLink was fifth on the list.

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  1. CenturyLink is an EXTREMELY abusive company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CenturyLink is EXTREMELY abusive, and also extremely disorganized, in my experience, which is extensive.

    1. Re:CenturyLink is an EXTREMELY abusive company. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

      So you're saying they are better than At&T?

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    2. Re:CenturyLink is an EXTREMELY abusive company. by Holi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      AT&T has never sent me someone else's Social Security number. Can't say the same for Century Link.

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    3. Re: CenturyLink is an EXTREMELY abusive company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're DSL connections are WAY oversubscribed in rural areas. Though they take subsidies to put phone in rural area, they're DSL is at times slower than dial up. They're bills tend to be higher as well.

  2. We need more competition, not less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The government needs to block this merger as well as the AT&T/TW merger. We need to have more choices when it comes to internet providers, not fewer. Pretty soon there will be a single source for the internet and they'll give you a 'bend over, take it or leave it' choice and that's all.

    1. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Drethon · · Score: 1

      The government needs to block this merger as well as the AT&T/TW merger. We need to have more choices when it comes to internet providers, not fewer. Pretty soon there will be a single source for the internet and they'll give you a 'bend over, take it or leave it' choice and that's all.

      The government needs to allow the merger of AT&T and TW... if they break the new company up into five pieces, where the pieces all cover the same region. While they are at it, do the same with Comcast, Charter and Verizon.

    2. Re:We need more competition, not less. by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The government needs to block this merger as well as the AT&T/TW merger. We need to have more choices when it comes to internet providers, not fewer. Pretty soon there will be a single source for the internet and they'll give you a 'bend over, take it or leave it' choice and that's all.

      AT&T is not buying Time Warner Cable (Charter already did that). Time Warner Cable (TWC) is not a part of Time Warner anymore (it was spun out years ago). AT&T is trying to buy Time Warner Inc (TWI), the media company (Warner Brothers Studios, Turner broadcasting, HBO, etc). Also should be noted that this also does not involve Time, inc., the publishing company (Time magazine, etc) which was also spun off years ago.

      Now I personally believe there are still valid reasons to not allow it, but let's stop getting confused over what company is actually being bought and what they do.

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    3. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Shatrat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      AT&T and TW do not compete. Centurylink and Level3 do not compete (for residential service).

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    4. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ATT wants time warner's media properties for the same reason comcast wanted nbc/universal. If you can't compete on the pipe you compete on the content.

      Or abuse net neutrality to force customers so ingest your personal network of shit.

    5. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      centurylink and level3 do compete at the wholesale/backbone level, but not enough to justify denying the merger. centurylink may be the "little guy" (even after their purchase of qwest) but they're just as greedy and shady as any other large teleco - rates will increase for everybody, despite the fact that costs keep falling.

      an at&t owned time warner will create more opportunity for at&t to control delivery (internet) and content (media) and discriminate against non-at&t properties. this acquisition SHOULD be blocked.

    6. Re:We need more competition, not less. by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2

      yeah, ok

      i remember the good old days 20 years ago when a trace route across state lines resulted in a few dozen hops and a dozen or so different network providers with each one adding latency

      streaming video was impossible on the old internet before the ISP's and backbone networks began to merge

    7. Re:We need more competition, not less. by omnichad · · Score: 2

      I know that all of these "Time"s have spun off, but had they formed independently they'd all be suing each other over trademark infringement. They may be all in different industries, but they're all large enough that it causes the same kind of confusion that trademark protection was supposed to prevent.

    8. Re:We need more competition, not less. by EvilSS · · Score: 2

      I know that all of these "Time"s have spun off, but had they formed independently they'd all be suing each other over trademark infringement. They may be all in different industries, but they're all large enough that it causes the same kind of confusion that trademark protection was supposed to prevent.

      Yea I honestly don't get why Time Warner Cable kept that name when they spun out. It causes confusion and it's not like it was a well liked company (as far as cable service goes) to begin with. Ditto for TWC/TWI keeping the "Time" in their names after the Time, inc. divestiture; it's confusing as hell. Thankfully Charter is re-branding itself and TWC as "Spectrum" so that association in people's minds should go away in half a decade or so. If AT&T does manage to get Time Warner hopefully they will ditch the Time Warner umbrella by absorbing it into AT&T and just keep the subsidiary names like Warner Brothers. I don't think I could stomach an "AT&T Studios" vanity plate in front of a film though, so keep the subsidiary names please!

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    9. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn, you seem to think that chopping up ISPs = cheaper and better service. It doesnt.

    10. Re:We need more competition, not less. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I remember when the path hops dropped. It wasn't from merges. It was from common POPs in large areas. The backbone was UUNET, and your local ISP got to them, and the other end's local ISP got to them from the other side. 3 carriers was common (unless one was AT&T, evil company would hand off traffic that was on-net). It was the consolidation and expansion of POPs that improved the Internet, not the reduction of carriers. MCI buying UUNET was one of the worst acts ever done to the growth of the Internet (and damaged both companies, as MCI drove everything into the ground, once their toll-bypass business was outlawed). Consolidation has held us back, and never helped us.

    11. Re:We need more competition, not less. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Thankfully Charter is re-branding itself and TWC as "Spectrum" so that association in people's minds should go away in half a decade or so.

      Is that really for real, though? I thought it was more like Comcast's Xfinity. Name your product something different, pretend it's your company's name but never actually change the company name.

      Honestly, that just adds to the confusion even more (I'm in a Charter region).

    12. Re:We need more competition, not less. by mrbester · · Score: 1

      AT&T was broken up before because it was too big and anti-competitive. Now it is almost what it was again through the bits being renamed several times, "pivoted", bought by others (mostly other supposedly independent bits) and then bought back / merged again. There was an infographic going around last week that detailed how they are basically back where they were.

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    13. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Drethon · · Score: 1

      Not interested in chopping up, interested in overlapping. I'm fine if we keep the same number so long as they become truly national and all cover the same area. If I remember correctly, the Charter vs Comcast coverage maps are just pitiful. Where I live, I can get Charter, or I can get low speed DSL (I'm not talking the 6M DSL the commercials say is so slow, that would be passable if not great).

    14. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      MCI did not buy UUNET. Worldcom bought UUNET then bought MCI. I worked for MCI at the time. Hence my user name. We were praying British Telecom would win the bid. But the felons won. What killed MCI was they bought SkyTel and passed on buying Cellular One. They bet on pagers. MCI then resold Sprint PCS cell service. But never owned a cell company. Worldcom was LDDS then bought Brooks Fiber and UUNET. Then got MCI and then MFS. Worldcom imploded AFTER the FCC killed to buyout of Sprint. We became MCI again. Then Verizon bought us and we became Verizon Business. The build out of the internet really stopped when the Enron/Worldcom crap hit the fan. Quest, Broadwing/Cincinnati Bell and Level3 were the only ones after that laying new cross county fiber networks. Quest merged with US West and became Centurylink.

    15. Re:We need more competition, not less. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Then the bottom feeders like Global Crossing came out, buying up bankrupt parts of companies, and selling capacity at a loss and trying to make up for it with volume.

    16. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as you have to run physical media to every business and home there will never be competition in this market.

      Utilities benefit from economies of scale and they either need to be regulated or publicly run to ensure the public interest.

    17. Re:We need more competition, not less. by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      Worldcom owned Global Crossing. Verizon got them when they bought the old Worldcom/MCI. Level 3 bought Global Crossing in 2011 and still own it.

    18. Re:We need more competition, not less. by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Yea it's for real, they are rolling it out region by region. In Charter regions I think they are using the Charter Spectrum brand as a transition so as to not completely confuse people, but if you go to charter.net, no it's all Spectrum, no charter. Charter.com is now Charter Spectrum (with Charter in a much smaller font). From what I hear, TWC is going straight to Spectrum, but I don't live near one of those regions so I can't confirm it first hand.

      I'm sure Charter's corporate name will stick around, at least for a while, but they want Spectrum to be the public facing brand.

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  3. Yes, "competitor" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Some competitor... both my DirecTV and AT&T Wireless accounts try to get me to bundle with CenturyLink ADSL.

    More to the point, buying Level 3 makes them a competitor in an entirely different area, one in which they were not obviously competing in the first place.

  4. More like a formidable competitor to competition by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

    The USA allows natural monopolies as a practicable matter, where alternatives wouldn't make sense due to the capital/resource requirements. But why are we allowing duopolies to become monopolies?

  5. Big Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AT&T will just buy Level 4 and out level them again.

    1. Re:Big Deal by Zephyn · · Score: 1

      Just go out to your local used music store and buy some Level 42. Then you're way ahead of all of them.

    2. Re:Big Deal by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      And the level 420 back room at the used music store.

    3. Re:Big Deal by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      They have to do a lot of grinding and kill a few boss monsters before they become level 4.

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  6. Formidable? by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More formidable competitor? Those assholes can't even be bothered to repair their broken pedestal covers throughout the city! They're literally leaving their twisted-pair splice points open to the weather!

    They've made a choice to not maintain their network infrastructure, both for legacy and for their DSL broadband customer base. Why should we trust them do do any better with anything else, let alone a build-out that's not even really that far along yet?

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    1. Re:Formidable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, had business DSL and phone service through CenturyLink. The box in the alley was over 40 years old, rusted and had all kinds of issues, not to mention it didn't stay closed. Every time it rained, we lost phone totally and had very slow, bad and intermittent DSL.

    2. Re:Formidable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't trust them, don't do business with them. Aside from that, nobody really cares what your opinion of their network maintenance practices and frankly you don't get a say in the matter.

    3. Re:Formidable? by TWX · · Score: 1

      I wish it was as simple as "didn't stay closed" around here. Usually the covers are entirely missing. I swear that COX has directed their employees to hit the CL pedestals with their trucks as they're driving around the city!

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    4. Re:Formidable? by TWX · · Score: 1

      I'd bet you'll find that a lot of people are interested in the state of their network practices if they're going to consider getting services from them. If a potential customer actually understands that the broken-off, laying-over in the landscaping splice point is how their service reaches their home or business and that Centurylink can only barely even be bothered to put a black garbage bag over it, they might well think twice about using that company for any service.

      I have no love for cable either, but at least their vaults and pedestals are generally closed-up, covered-up, or otherwise not left exposed to the weather.

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    5. Re:Formidable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever get the feeling this is on purpose? They're deinstalling copper for fiber every chance they can get in my town.

    6. Re:Formidable? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They've made a choice to not maintain their network infrastructure

      It's what all the big boys are doing. If they can rot out their copper, they can stop dealing with it and replace with fiber.

    7. Re:Formidable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They use orange bags around here that stick out like a sore thumb and they still get ran over in the daytime.

    8. Re:Formidable? by thevirtualcat · · Score: 1

      I think you mean LTE.

      They're only rolling out fiber where they're legally obligated to, and they are spending a lot of money on lawyers to get them out of those obligations, with varying degrees of success.

    9. Re:Formidable? by TWX · · Score: 2

      And if they're going to try to go LTE, then why would I bother with using Centurylink? I'll just add an extra-line for $10/month to my cell phone provider and port the number over, and then get a bluetooth accessory to connect it to my home phone wiring. Doesn't even need data if it's just for a phone line for the house.

      The reason to use the copper is so when there's a disaster or some other emergency, there's a phone system that's not dependent on fairly vulnerable cell towers. I've seen T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T cell tower sites inside their equipment rooms. AT&T's are actually pretty good, like a miniature data center with proper interior climate control, proper access control, regular cleaning and other maintenance, but the rest of them are pretty shoddy things. Hell, Cricket's are just trailers that are parked and the tower cranked-up, and T-Mobile's are outdoor-rated four-post cabinets with little air conditioners strapped to the side, with a generator sitting there that hopefully will kick-in when the power goes out.

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    10. Re:Formidable? by TWX · · Score: 1

      If that fiber connection shows up at my house then I'll believe it. Until then, no dice.

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    11. Re:Formidable? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      OP said "throughout the city." LTE isn't a landline-replacement in the city - only rural.

      Maybe they won't roll fiber unless they're obligated to - but that means it's pretty likely they won't want to maintain BOTH anywhere. Rolling out fiber means maintaining fiber AND copper. I'm pretty sure they're legally obligated not to rip out functioning copper.

    12. Re:Formidable? by thevirtualcat · · Score: 1

      In the case of CenturyLink specifically, unless they want to go the MNVO route, they probably don't care what you do after their service becomes unusable. It sounds like they're just shoring up their business customer base so they can afford to bleed residential customers until they don't have any anymore.

      In my experience, companies like CenturyLink and Frontier are where residential communications infrastructure goes to die.

    13. Re:Formidable? by thevirtualcat · · Score: 1

      Of course it isn't. You and I know that. And I'd be willing to bet that the people who are actually responsible for designing and deploying the networks know it too.

      But if the lawyers can convince a city council that deploying LTE to replace the aging copper infrastructure is just as good as fiber, what financial department would approve the roll out fiber when they could approve a much cheaper, much higher margin LTE installation instead?

  7. Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use three different providers for redundancy and this just weakened the third leg.

    1. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Honestly, you probably don't have the redundancy you think you do. I see this crap all the time from the other side. Some hospital or bank orders two connections from Telco A and Telco B, and Telco B turns around and buys the local access from Telco A. Even if the local loops are different facilities, it's almost certain the same long haul fiber is being used. You'd get better reliability if you ordered diverse service from Telco A, then they would know and be able to control both paths.

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    2. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example. Level 3 has two fiber cut on the East coast, and nearly all ISPs suddenly go down, including Tier 1 ISPs like Verizon, AT&T, and Comcast. These other ISPs had direct or indirect reliance on Level 3.

    3. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've had them terminate in different exchanges, only to find out that the second exchange was daisy chained off the first. The idiot who bough the circuit even specified (And paid for) diverse penetration for a line that laid in the same trench. And the companies saw that CIOs were idiots, and banked on it.

    4. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Informative

      As someone who has priced and engineered these services from the carrier side, what you have to do is request maps. If it's a layer 3 service you also need to make sure the two terminating routers are fed diversely. It's pretty common to be able to get a Google Earth KMZ file of the physical path, but expect to pay much more because last mile diversity usually requires construction.

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    5. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      As someone who has priced and engineered these services from the carrier side, what you have to do is request maps.

      When the CIOs buying it don't read maps and sign contracts before anyone technical has even looked at it, maps don't help. They only help if you are doing it right. In which case, we generally don't look at maps, but instead outline in the contract that the diverse paths may never cross, and must always be at least 40 meters apart (or some distance such they they aren't buried on different sides of the same road). Though the only choice here will sell you "diversity" but doesn't guarantee diversity, as a cable failure may require a re-route to a non-diverse path. If you want diversity, you need to pay for a path audit on whatever schedule you find convenient and affordable.

    6. Re:Ugh, time to start shopping for a new ISP by Shatrat · · Score: 2

      If you don't request a map, the specific diversity details might not actually get into the hands of the people engineering the circuit/service. It's very common for the order to be entered into some system and the actual service order document to only be looked at by people who don't even really understand the language around diversity requirements.

      However, if you request a map and (if needed) raise a stink, someone on the sales/order management side has to get in touch with someone in Engineering. When I was in network engineering I would always go to great lengths to wring actual signed service orders out of order management. Usually I'd be told that I didn't need it a few times before I got it. Pretty often I'd find something that wasn't put into the order database, like a diversity requirement or some technical requirement like supporting 9000+ byte frames or transparent to double-tagged traffic. Sometimes I'd find out that the OC192 was actually 10GigE or vice versa.
      Ask for maps, trigger that Engineering involvement.

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  8. CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by Etcetera · · Score: 2

    It's interesting to see the larger (old) AT&T successors competing back again...

    New AT&T is, of course, former Baby Bell "Southwestern Bell", which bought the old AT&T, including the AT&T Long Lines department (and, of course, AT&T Long Distance, which is still a functioning corporate unit and is still "the old AT&T"). With CenturyLink, we'll now have two Baby Bells with significant fiber footprints. (As others have pointed out, AT&T / TW doesn't involve TWC/Comcast though.)

    It's arguable whether the reconstitution of mega backbones was inevitable. Although divestiture helped competition (MCI, of course) and helped explosively develop the technical capacity needed for internet growth, economies of scale do come back into play. Especially when massive capital outlays come into play.

    1. Re:CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only New AT&T was just Southwestern Bell (a.k.a. SBC).

      Alas, no. SBC provided excellent service. Then SBC merged with BellSouth (which owned the rights to the AT&T name). And by "merged" I really mean "got acquired by". And BellSouth didn't have the cash to acquire SBC, so they called it a "merger" and BellSouth borrowed a fuck-ton of money to get it done. Then, once they absorbed SBC, they used former-SBC cash reserves to pay off the debt. And then to top it off, BellSouth's management (fuck you, Randall Stephenson) took over and their service went to absolute shit.

      They used to be a reliable service provider with fairly straightforward billing. Then they went from being "The Phone Company" to being "Fuck You, Pay Me". To which I have responded once-and-for-all: Fuck You, Die In A Fire, New AT&T. I will never do business with them again. NEVER.

    2. Re:CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      SBC "excellent service"? I was an old DSL subscriber. Got a DHCP connection (back before PPPoE was in wide use). Then I moved houses. They didn't let me keep my grandfathered service. Turns out the area also had line issues. 6 months of at least 1 hour down per day, and I gave up, sent a letter to the FCC (copying SBC, and their DSL arm that had a different business name I don't remember), and what they had been telling me for 6 months was "impossible" was done in 48 hours of putting the letter in the mailbox. That's the big Fuck You I got from SBC, and I hated them for the fight they put up from someone just wanting DSL to work.

    3. Re:CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure the SW Bell POTS lines were bought by AT&T and (maybe after a sale to Verizon) spun off as their own company (Northpoint) which declared bankruptcy and is now Fairpoint, at least in the northeast - POTS service plus a smattering of regional DSL service. Some fiber, but probably not a lot, but no longer part of AT&T.

    4. Re:CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by Etcetera · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I have to agree with this. I had (old) AT&T Wireless and it was freaking awesome in San Diego.

      If SBC had adopted old AT&T's engineering practices, maybe it wouldn't suck as much now.

    5. Re:CenturyLink bought Baby Bell Qwest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In St. Louis, they were great before the Yahoo rebranding. After that, they went downhill a little, mostly for new customers that had the "whenever we feel like breaking it" SLA (I was grandfathered into the pre-Yahoo "make it work and keep it that way" SLA). I had stable DSL from 2000 until 2008, with no outages to speak of.

      Once they became Lowercase at&t, it all went completely to hell. They actively broke my DSL to get me to switch to Uverse. When I called to complain, they rolled a truck, fixed the DSL, and broke the landline phone. When I finally gave in and upgraded to Uverse, everything magically worked again. That is, until they wanted to push satellite TV service because the Uverse VDSL nodes were overloaded in my area. Then they went back to intentionally causing outages to urge customers to switch to other products.

      Now I have Charter (internet only) and T-Mobile (screw land-lines). AT&T, whether upper- or lower-case, will never get my business again in any way shape or form.

  9. Centurylink and customer service by TheHawke · · Score: 2

    Before they go buying up a titan like Level3, they need to be spending at least 1/4 of that cash in client support and relations. I've heard (and experienced) nothing but bad things about their client support. They have a serious disconnect between the call center level and field tech, making for awful ticket response and lousy on site times.

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    1. Re:Centurylink and customer service by belthize · · Score: 1

      I despise CL customer service with a white hot passion. I typically suffer through local DSLAM issues for weeks before I finally generate enough energy to go through the hell that is CL customer service. It's about time for me to call them again about relocating my service to a different pole. I've tried 3 times, the process involves being transferred repeatedly till I get disconnected.

  10. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The USA allows natural monopolies as a practicable matter, where alternatives wouldn't make sense due to the capital/resource requirements.

    I'm not sure that's true. Make "the last mile" a standardized utility. This would make it far easier for many competitors to enter the market because they wouldn't have to string potentially redundant wires to jillions of homes: they'd only have to hook up to routing nodes, set roughly a mile apart from each other.

    You can then change ISP and content providers without anyone having to visit your house: it's all done at the routing nodes. (That part could perhaps even be made remote-controlled so that a truck doesn't even have to visit the nodes.)

    The last-mile problem is the current bottleneck to competition. Remove that barrier by shifting it to a utility, and we then get real competition instead of the 2 co-shitty ISP's a typical city has to choose between.

    Some may argue that a utility would be slow to add speed improvements, which would typically increase over time based on past patterns. But I'd sacrifice growing speed for reliability and choice. Reliability and choice are something the current oligopolies consistently suck at: they crawl on weekends and force you buy crap you don't want to get what you do want (bundling). Let alone crappy customer service.

  11. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The last-mile problem is the current bottleneck to competition. Remove that barrier by shifting it to a utility, and we then get real competition instead of the 2 co-shitty ISP's a typical city has to choose between.

    Why on earth would you want two or more ISPs to compete over you over a common backbone? That would require competition, something the ISPs obviously don't want. It would also require someone to foot the bill for that last mile infrastructure. ISPs have fought for years to not have to share their lines, nor have a city be able to put in their own lines. It's much better the way it is where one ISP control the area and kick and scream and pout whenever there's an effort to try to modernize the service.

  12. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by Rockoon · · Score: 1

    As a utility it wouldnt give you real competition. Since all the "competitors" will be running on the same equipment, speeds would be the same and so on.

    ..and there would never be a reason to upgrade the equipment.

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  13. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by EvilSS · · Score: 1

    I honestly wish they would do something like this with wireless carriers. We could make much better use of the available spectrum if one (well regulated) entity controlled the towers and all carriers worked like MVNOs, paying fees for each of their subscribers back to that entity. All phone working off the same technology, able to use the entirety of the available spectrum at each tower. But then what would the wireless carriers compete on if not coverage? Price? Service? Nah, that's insane. Plus well regulated monopoly in the US? That's a pipe dream in itself. But one can dream I guess.

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  14. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Most of the current ones don't match their advertised speed anyhow unless you test at say 9 am Wednesday morning.

    If speed is ALL you care about, then my suggestion is probably not for you. Like I said, I'd prefer reliability and content choice over (spotty) speed, and suspect most others would agree.

    Suppose we kept things as they are and you purchased the best high-speed package available. It may zoom during non-peak hours and you could watch your favorite shows in real-time in HD during these non-peak hours, but during peak hours it would crawl.

    If you have relatively slow but consistent speed, then you learn to adjust your routine to buffer content or whatnot so that you don't have to do something different on Wednesday than you do Sunday. And various services would be offered for buffering etc. since many others are in the same boat. Options would appear to work around the down-sides, partly because there are more content services competing.

    You want a Maserati that will break down often, but most would rather have a Honda Civic: boring but reliable. (They may want to try the Maserati for fun and glitz, but get tired of it breaking down all the time eventually.)

  15. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Side note Re Sig: "We believe that Internet Explorer is a really good browser" - Steve Jobs, 1997'

    In 1997 it was, compared to the other offerings of the time. It was roughly equivalent to Netscape in quality and features, and the other browsers were still playing catch-up.

  16. As someone who worked at Level 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously I can't say too much but I can't imagine that the employees at Level 3 are happy about this. This just seems like a terrible merger from their point of view. Only thing I can think here is that the offer was just too good to refuse. Otherwise this just seems like a nightmare come true. I'm sure some people I know will be losing their jobs.

    On the plus side I'm really glad I'm not there anymore.

  17. Data caps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the beginning of the end: http://www.centurylink.com/help/index.php?assetid=317

  18. Re:More like a formidable competitor to competitio by Rockoon · · Score: 1

    Suppose we kept things as they are and you purchased the best high-speed package available. It may zoom during non-peak hours and you could watch your favorite shows in real-time in HD during these non-peak hours, but during peak hours it would crawl.

    Do you understand that MOST PEOPLE do not have the highest speed connection available to them, yet they still have no trouble at all streaming their favorite shows in HD in realtime?

    Its pretty clear now that you dont know shit about your local government, because if tech people in your area were actually involved in your local government, the threat of pulling the local isp's franchise agreements would have already gotten them to offer at least 5-mbit service. However you are so fucking apathetic about local matters that they dont even have to offer 5-mbit service to maintain their franchise agreements. Quite telling.

    Most of the people in the country dont have your problem because they give a shit where it matters, rather than only on slashdot.

    --
    "His name was James Damore."