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Russia Says it Was in Touch With Trump Campaign During Election (cnbc.com)
An anonymous reader shares a CNBC report: The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's campaign staff during the U.S. election campaign, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Thursday. "There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. He did not give details. When asked whether these contacts would now intensify after Trump's election victory, Ryabkov said: "These working moments and follow-up on this or that matter will depend on the situation and the questions which face us. But we will of course continue this work after the elections." Defeated Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton accused Trump of being a "puppet" of President Vladimir Putin during the campaign, and U.S. officials said Russia had hacked into Democratic party emails, something Moscow denied. Trump has said he might meet Putin before his inauguration, but Putin's spokesman has said there are currently no plans for such a meeting.
Not a puppet. You're the puppet. You're the puppet.
who did not see that coming ?
Trump was in touch with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. I saw it on television!
Here's what they really had to say:
Diplomatic sources in Beijing and Washington have confirmed that Beijing, aware of the high stakes for bilateral ties, has been following the election campaign closely and trying to maintain regular contact with both candidates, Clinton and Republican nominee Donald Trump, through their campaign teams and other channels.
Your point? Open relations with one of America's biggest trading partners is a lot different from secret contacts with an antagonistic power. Denying it through his campaign makes it look even worse.
Between conspiracy with the country's adversaries and tapping the DNC, Trump seems to be doing his best to emulate Nixon. We'll see if it comes to the same end.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Oh, and dealing with other countries diplomatically instead of militarily is now equivalent to Nazism or something all of the sudden. Which is why everybody thought Obama was a Nazi when he was elected... right?
I don't really want to get into your Democrat=wrong-think, Republican=right-think pissing contest. What I will say is that presidential candidates dealing diplomatically to Russia/China depends entirely on what was being said and promised. Say what you will about Hillary she is not an impulsive person and for all her faults I do not believe she'd make rash promises to anybody, especially if they affect the USA's extensive network of allies. Trump, on the other hand, is completely inexperienced in foreign policy dealings, he is an individual that is so impulsive he apparently cannot even be trusted with a Twitter account. So when it becomes known that he's been having talks with Vladimir Putin behind the backs of all of the USA's allies it gets people wondering what he promised the Russians without consulting them? ... unilateral lifting of sanctions? recognition of their annexation of the Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine in exchange for cooperation on ending the Syrian mess? A pledge not to defend the Baltic republics? Something even dumber than that, like dismantling NATO? Or did he simply have a friendly dinner with one of Putin's creatures over some New York deep dish pizza and discuss Golf? Point being that people are a lot less nervous about Hillary 'giving away the home-world' as it were than they are over Trump dong the same because after he promised to do the modern equivalent of pining a yellow star on every Muslim in the USA people basically think he's capable of anything.
Don't like Goldman Sachs? Then by all means don't this second go and google who's the leading contender for Trump's treasury secretary.
What, did you actually convince yourself that the billionaire who literally plates everything around him in gold was a "man of the people"? If so:
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It's times like this I wish I had a friend named 'The Professor'.
47% if the voters. not 47% of the population.
127 million people voted.
The US population is estimated at 324,227,000 in 2016
47% of the voters is 59.6 million people.
47% of the population of the US is 152.3 million people. That's more people than voted in total!
So really, the election told us that 18% of the people next to us in the checkout line are likely to be Trump voters. Some of them aren't even of voting age, so you know they didn't participate in the dumbing down of the presidency (even past the Bush years... it's astonishing, really. The tyranny of the Gaussian come home to roost. Democracy at work: any two idiots outvote a genius. In an environment where geniuses are rare.)
Just saying. :)
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
No, he really didn't get out the vote; Trump's vote count was in line with the losers of the last few elections. His strategy in the primary and the general was to drag the whole thing down so far into the mud that most people were too disillusioned to vote. Low turnout favors the 'fear/anger/hate' candidate.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Dude, you are udderly ridiculous. Seriously. Don't you feel like you have a steak in this coversation? It be hooves you to take a more serious approach to the forum, no matter what you've herd elsewhere. It's time to stop milking this for all it's worth and get with the program, before the mods decide to put you out to pasture, see?
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
On the contrary, Russia's actions have proven they are INCREDIBLY rational. They waited until the US (the only power that could legitimately threaten them) was distracted before taking a small step (Crimea). After seeing how that shook out (US did nothing but wag a finger), they moved to the next step. Same result. You might not agree (nor do I) with their goals, but the way they are moving forward is incredibly rational, well-planned, and measured.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
No, it really doesn't. It's none of our business. We have no right to interfere with the actions of other countries. And that's what it is: interference. You want to have a sovereign country? Fine. Make sure you can defend it or otherwise exert effective leverage sufficient to maintain your sovereignty. Otherwise, someone is going to take it from you or otherwise ruin your day -- and we -- the US -- definitely shouldn't have to be the one to guarantee your borders. That's your job.
This whole "US is the world's policeman" business is insane. And the claim that we actually have significant national interests in 99% of these venues isn't much better.
Our job is making sure no one annexes us. Other countries can posture all they want. We can squash them like bugs if they try anything. And we should. Other than that, there's an awful lot of stuff we need to be paying attention to within our borders that we are not.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I read your article. And TFA. And watched the video. Not saying you're a liar, but [citation needed].
And being anti-war means taking whatever steps are necessary to prevent war, including standing up to expansionists. Appeasing Hitler didn't stop World War II, and tearing down NATO while Russia is annexing Europe's borders won't pacify Putin.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
I suppose that depends on your definition of 'actually.' Checking Politifact, this claim does not hold true.
Per an article in Fortune magazine in October 2015 that traced both the Clintons' tax returns to estimate their net worth:
How is it that Bill Clinton 'actually' accepted HUNDREDS of millions of dollars from foreign interests, yet he only has assets totaling as much as $53 million?
This is a classic example of the disruption that Trump has brought to the political process.
Unrestrained fiction presented as facts to smear opponents requires an update or replacement to the term "truthiness."
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Evil demagogue? You're saying this about GP and not Trump, am I getting this right? And you have no idea what GP is talking about? Here you go:
GS: "Are you unequivocally now ruling out a database on all Muslims?"
Trump: "No, not at all"
That was the final word on Trump's proposal to create a database to track all Muslims, which he had tried to backtrack to just "refugees". I'm not sure if it came before or after his idea that mosques need to be placed under surveillance. In combination with the unconstitutional Muslim ban he proposed, and the... you know what, he's said so much fucked up shit just on this one topic that if you haven't bothered to educate yourself on it by now, I'm not going to waste my time. Here's a quarter, go fuck yourself.
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this is true...Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort had to quit because of ties with Russian Mobsters: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/...
Idiots are to blame for Trump's victory...all kinds of idiots across the political spectrum contributed along the way, starting with idiot Democrats who voted for Hillary over Bernie....up to the idiot Republicans for being Republican...and of course let's not forget the idiot journalists of the MSM
Idiots are to blame
Thank you Dave Raggett
You know, it's quite a coincidence that these attacks only occur during Presidential elections and only when Democrats are having a hard time 'motivating' black voters tiger to the polls and vote...
Except that burning down African-American churches is not something that only occurs during presidential elections. In fact, it happens all the time. We just notice it more during elections.
Here, for example are some stories from early 2015: http://www.theatlantic.com/nat...
and https://www.washingtonpost.com...
and https://www.washingtonpost.com...
and https://www.splcenter.org/hate...
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."
History repeats too much to have such a myopic attitude about world affairs.
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
6% of the Foundation funds goes to charitable works, 90% goes to paychecks and benefits.
This is absolutely false, and another shining example of an untrue "news" story that so many people took as fact. Only 6% of the foundation's funds go to grants to other charities, which is where that number on the tax filings came from. (Speaking of tax returns... But I digress.) The foundation does a lot of its own charitable work out of its own funds. Those funds aren't given as grants to other charities, so they don't appear on IRS Form 990, Line 13.
Let me phrase this another way. If you raise $100, and you donate $6 to the Red Cross, and you spend $82 on food for homeless people, you didn't "only" give 6% to charity. You gave 88% to charity. The actual numbers for the Clinton foundation are closer to 88% charity, 12% overhead.
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