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'Flash Crash' Trader Pleads Guilty, Facing Up To 30 Years In Prison (telegraph.co.uk)

Slashdot reader whoever57 writes; Navinder Sarao, the British trader who was accused of causing the "flash crash" in 2010 and was extradited to the U.S. this week has pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of spoofing. No details of the plea deal have been released, but it's believed that he's agreed to forfeit $13 million. Several years of jail time are also expected for Mr. Sarao.
From the Telegraph: Sarao, a 37-year-old working out of a modest suburban home in Hounslow in west London, allegedly made tens of millions of dollars with a computer program that could automatically manipulate prices... "Navinder Sarao abused sophisticated technology to make a quick profit, and jeopardised the integrity of US financial markets," said Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell.
Sentencing guidelines suggest he'll spend at least six and a half years in prison, though he faced a maximum possible sentence of 30 years and still faces the possibility of $38 million in sanctions.

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  1. Lol, translation by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Navinder Sarao abused sophisticated technology to make a quick profit, and jeopardised the integrity of US financial markets," said Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell.

    TRANSLATION:

    "Only we get to fuck with the integrity of US financial markets." - Wall Street Bankers

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    1. Re:Lol, translation by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or even more:

      "You only get to cream off those sweet HFT profits if you're one of us"

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  2. Abuse! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He was abusing sophisticated technology that ruined the returns of other people using sophisticated technology, lock him up.

  3. HFT by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If he had paid the right people and bought a seat on the exchange, they'd have called it HFT and it wouldn't have been an issue.

    But manipulate prices from your garage, and off to prison for you.

    1. Re:HFT by speedplane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If he had paid the right people and bought a seat on the exchange, they'd have called it HFT and it wouldn't have been an issue.

      His problem is that he didn't make enough money off of his scheme. If he only made 100X that, he'd be called goldman sachs and get a seat on the treasury.

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    2. Re:HFT by humptheElephant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, put the little guy in prison for a long time, but let the guys off who tanked the economy a few years ago and are going to do it again. Then the government will bail them out again. No prison for the big banksters.

  4. But what is the crime? by dumky2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know if this information is public, but what is his supposed crime, specifically?
    Did he break the rules of the exchange? Did he trespass, break in, or otherwise tamper with the system?

    If you're playing poker, actually manipulating the deck, looking at other people's cards, are both against the rules. Participants agree to those rules when they join the table.
    Let's say you're really good at bluffing other people or reading their bluff, you've done nothing wrong. And calling it "manipulation" or "abuse" or "profiting" or "ruining other players" is just a way to obscure that fact.

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    1. Re:But what is the crime? by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Technically, his crime is fraud, placing orders he didn't intend to fill, which were then cancelled near-instantaneously as allowed by the stock market. In between his order and the cancellation, several honorable businessmen who payed a lot of money to have access to orders before they are sent to the stock market and to have their own orders be processed first, quickly bought and sold stocks so as to skim a little money off the order, but these poor innocent honorable businessmen lost money instead because the order they thought they were skimming money from didn't go through. All this also caused changes in the stock market that made a bunch of AI stock traders panic, crashing the market, and Mr Sarao was the least rich/important person who could be blamed.

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  5. Re:Integrity? by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If one guy can cause this, it proves that the US financial markets *intrinsically* don't have much integrity.

    All stock markets are unstable, not just the US. You just need one rumor and *bam* you instantly wipe off $$$. Stock markets are run by people and it all comes back to Agent K's quote:

    The person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it!

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  6. Just justice? by RandomSurfer314 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't help but feel that a guy is going to be sentenced primarily because he didn't have the proper business background and maybe wasn't wearing a suit with ties, and that he would do just fine today if he had done the same for some major financial institution.

  7. Re: Integrity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Aleynikov

    Ignore huge corp behind curtain.

  8. So afraid of 1's and 0's by wjcofkc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It always boggles my mind when people who abuse computers for financial gain face harsher sentences than so many rapist and murderers (not exclusive). Then I truly consider the reasons why and I choose to remain boggled.

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  9. Good start... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    now when do they put all the bank executives that caused the crash from before that in prison? Or is this the patsy that we are all supposed to point at and ignore that the same scumbag bankers are doing the same shit today at Wells Fargo and other places?

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  10. Goldman Sachs does this everyday by Maxwell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are just more subtle about it. And they make more money doing it.And they are too big to fail. And they don't like any lone rangers stepping on their turf.

  11. Crime: Not being a Big Corporation by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He deliberately, willfully and maliciously broke those rules to favor himself and in the process caused other people, who were playing by the rules, to lose money.

    Yes and no. He placed trades to make it look like a large amount of selling was about to happen then others place sell orders with even lower prices. He then quickly cancelled his orders and quickly bought the stock at the lower price. However had his orders gone through he would have been on the hook for them.

    Compare this to the behaviour of large financial corporations who watch one exchange and when they see a large buy or sell order come it quickly, using high speed networks not available to anyone else, place an appropriate order on another exchange before the large order gets there in order to take advantage of the increase or drop in the price the large order will cause.

    Both techniques are dishonest and both cause other people to lose money. However one technique was figured out by large financial corporations and the other by a lone trader. Guess which one is deemed to be legal despite the incredible similarity between the two techniques. If he is guilty why are the large financial corporations who are almost playing the identical game not?