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US Internet Firms Ask Trump To Support Encryption, Ease Regulations (reuters.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: U.S. internet companies including Facebook Inc and Amazon Inc have sent President-elect Donald Trump a detailed list of their policy priorities, which includes promoting strong encryption, immigration reform and maintaining liability protections from content that users share on their platforms. The letter sent on Monday by the Internet Association, a trade group whose 40 members also include Alphabet's Google, Uber and Twitter, represents an early effort to repair the relationship between the technology sector and Trump, who was almost universally disliked and at times denounced in Silicon Valley during the presidential campaign. Some of the policy goals stated in the letter may align with Trump's priorities, including easing regulation on the sharing economy, lowering taxes on profits made from intellectual property and applying pressure on Europe to not erect too many barriers that restrict U.S. internet companies from growing in that market. Other goals are likely to clash with Trump, who offered numerous broadsides against the tech sector during his campaign. They include supporting strong encryption in products against efforts by law enforcement agencies to mandate access to data for criminal investigations, upholding recent reforms to U.S. government surveillance programs that ended the bulk collection of call data by the National Security Agency, and maintaining net neutrality rules that require internet service providers to treat web traffic equally. The association seeks immigration reform to support more high-skilled workers staying in the United States. While urging support for trade agreements, the letter does not mention the Trans Pacific Partnership, which Trump has repeatedly assailed with claims it was poorly negotiated and would take jobs away from U.S. workers. The technology sector supported the deal, but members of Congress have conceded since the election it is not going to be enacted.
Dear Mr Trump,
You may remember us. We're the people who were suggesting that California leave the USA because you won. We also took some blame for fake news that we claim let you win. Oh, and all of us donated heavily to your main political rival, allowing her to outspend you by a pretty large margin in the Presidential campaign.
Now that you remember who we are, we'd like to ask you a small favour. Please will you do something that helps maintain the balance of power in our favour, rather than that of the instruments of the surveillance state that will be under your control?
Thanks,
A bunch of people that hate you
I am TheRaven on Soylent News
We fucking hate you. We loath your existence. We used our influence to actively campaign against you by manipulating the information the public sees and hears.
Now, here's our list of demands.
Now go away or we shall taunt you a second time-a.
Arrogant, self-entitled pieces of shit.
Some quotes from his Twitter:
"I have officially cast my vote for @HillaryClinton... Let's make history tonight! #ImWithHer #electionday"
"Clinton wiped the floor with Trump tonight. Say hello to your next president, America! #debatenight"
"Trump is a saggy sack of shit. If any one of you is even remotely considering voting for him this November, please unfollow me."
And so on. And now he clearly uses his position on Slashdot to push articles against Trump twice every day or even more often. Can't whipslash do anything about it? Guy's starting to get boring with his propaganda.
No no. That goes against the current orthodoxy being promoted by groups like moveon.org and answer. You're supposed to riot, trash shit and so on to show your resolve. Not be reasonable, clear, concise, and lay out something that seems reasonable and get people to agree with it.
Just look at the last week right? People aren't going to get pissed off or anything and ignore them anymore. Just like I'm sure these electors will bend over backwards and do what the people threatening them want.
Om, nomnomnom...
Trump? A negotiator? I guess that answers why no U.S. bank would lend to his alleged companies any longer. And the word in the business world was that if you deal with Trump, get your money up front first...but expect a lawsuit later. The only people stupid enough to "negotiate" with Trump lately were a bunch of clueless foreigners who didn't know him for what he really is, i.e., Sargent Bilko's mentor.
He's a deal maker only in the sense that a small-time bunko artist is a deal maker.
All of the self-styled super educated people who mock Trump voters as rubes
Is it OK to mock the Trump supporters who are birthers? It's a small fraction, only 40% or so.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
He also railed against Goldman Sachs, and now has an ex Goldman Sachs banker-turned-media magnate as his chief strategist, and a Goldman Sachs-banker-turned-filmmaker is the leading contender for his treasury secretary.
He ran on "draining the swamp", and now his transition team is dominated by the swamp itself, a bunch of scandal-wrapped establishment and wannabe-establishment figures. Of course even that seems to oscillate as they bounce each other around. One day Chris Christie is leading the transition, the next day he's not even part of it. Now Pence is running it, while also fighting a legal battle in Indiana to (facepalm) prevent the public from seeing his emails.
He ran on an immediate full repeal of Obamacare, now he says he's going to evaluate it and try to keep some of its most important provisions, like the ban on discrimination for preexisting conditions, and keeping children on their parents' policies. Which I can't even begin to imagine the outcome of, because if he does that, then he has to make something functionally equivalent to the mandate - otherwise, healthy people who don't get insurance through their employer go without insurance until they get something serious, wherein they can just sign right up despite the "preexisting condition", and hence almost everyone on a non-corporate insurance policy is being treated for something expensive, and thus the rates become astronomical.
He ran on building a wall, huge, thick, unbroken, and explicitly never just a fence... now it's going to be a mix of walls, fences, and possibly not even that in places. At least that's the stated policy plan as of today, who knows what it will be tomorrow.
I have no clue what sort of policies this guy is actually going to pursue, and neither does anyone else here. He's changed so much over the years, and often day to day. Like most people except for the hardest-core partisans on each side, I'm hoping for the best and fearing the worst. I'm not even sure he really knows what to do next in many cases. The fact that nobody in his campaign even knew that you have to replace the White House staff when you take office blows my mind. Were they paying that little attention when Obama, or any other president for that matter, took office?
Again: I hope for the best but fear the worst.
It's times like this I wish I had a friend named 'The Professor'.
Because it's the way things get done with him?
Anyone hoping to get policy support from him better used to treating him to luxury, complimenting him profusely, and pitching every concept to him as if it's his idea and it's going to make him look good. Some attacks against those he's currently in feuds with will likewise go a long way.
It's times like this I wish I had a friend named 'The Professor'.
He agrees a deal then reneges on the deal. He's done that time and time again with all of his suppliers. Anyone who voted for this con man thinks he won't do that to them? Why do they think they're special to him?
Look at the way he's trying to get out of the Paris CO2 agreements by reneging on it.
His promises are worthless.
He got the majority of electoral college votes, which is -- quite literally -- all that matters in this election. The EC was designed in part to ensure it would be next to impossible for a candidate to win if they did not have the support of sparsely populated rural areas as well as densely populated urban areas. That's the way it's always been, and for good reason -- and that's why Idaho has the same number of senators as New York. Those complaining about it now sound like football coaches whining that they lost even though they accumulated more offensive yards then the other team. If the election WERE to be won by a majority vote, and that was stated at the outset, then Trump would have just campaigned in the urban areas like Clinton did, modified his platform accordingly, and he still would have beaten her. You can't change the rules after you lose...
Trump's strategy appears to be "how can I fuck up the country as badly as possible?" He's considering a climate change denier to run the EPA. He's considering an evolution denier to run the Department of Education. He's considering an oil industry exec to run the Department of the Interior. He's considering a Goldman Sachs exec to run the Treasury. It's like he heard the phrase "fox guarding the henhouse" and thought "hey, that sounds like a great idea!"
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I suspect a large percentage of anti-trump protesters (not the majority, but a large percentage) are un/under-employed college graduates that, seven years into Obama's America still find themselves saddled with massive student debt and the person they thought would free them of that debt lost, at the hands of countless republican taxpayers that didn't want to pay for someone else's college education.
It's hard for them to get a job when they have a double major in women's studies(or gender studies) and a minor in the contemporary works of JK Rowling. After all, paying $60k/year for that and expecting to get a job at anything other than the very bottom of the job pool was their own fault for not thinking. The fault of universities for helping to foster an education bubble, and schools/educational leaders/etc for saying "trades are worthless, you should go get a college/university education in anything." Which is where those people would actually be working and likely making good money doing it. Instead of clearing $0.83/hr above minimum wage.
Om, nomnomnom...
He also railed against Goldman Sachs, and now has an ex Goldman Sachs banker-turned-media magnate as his chief strategist, and a Goldman Sachs-banker-turned-filmmaker is the leading contender for his treasury secretary.
"Media magnate" - not to mention that he has a reputation for being a racist and white-supremacist etc etc. Sad to think that I, only a few days ago, spoke in favour of giving Trump a chance to show us what he really is like; I guess that is what he is now doing, and it doesn't look pretty. Keep it up like this, and even the most pessimistic expectations will be more than fulfilled.
So, he is playing "The Apprentice" then?
Who's going to read it to him?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Premiums were going up that much before Obamacare was enacted.
By the way, I notice the GOP congress just passed the $2.5billion bill for high-risk pools, which they would not pass for the past 3 years. This is why premiums went up and now they're going to try to make sure it's all working by the time Trump takes office.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I suppose it's a typical leftist mindset that people should be able to break contracts and essentially steal money from the other party by not fulfilling their obligations while pocketing the money. Apparently Trump doesn't agree with that. Good on him.
What the hell does being a left minded person have to do with fulfilling a contact? Especially when Trump was quite happy with the work until it came time to pay up???
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
But the fox has a degree in hen studies!
It's times like this I wish I had a friend named 'The Professor'.
Actually, wait a minute. It makes sense, but it has jack shit to do with the electoral college nonsense.
The day before the election, there was one thing that every one of us knew: whoever won, would not have the support anywhere close to half of the country. Had Clinton won, nobody would be kissing her ass either, you know.
One of the very best reasons to vote for Trump, was to try to prevent Clinton from becoming president. Just as the best reason to vote for Clinton was to prevent Trump from becoming president. I realize people in those camps might have had other reasons for voting the way they did, but they were a minority. (Don't blame me; I voted for Johnson. I tried to help both efforts and also get a great president too. Yeah, call me unrealistically greedy.)
As it happens, one of the efforts failed and the other succeeded. But let's not pretend that plenty of people who voted for Trump weren't gagging as they did it. You damn well know it's true, just as there was plenty of Clinton-voter vomit found in the voting booths also.
Everyone needs to keep the same attitude that they had when they thought Clinton was going to win: president-elect, you're our bitch. The president is still going to be our bitch, and nobody should forget that. Getting the election results didn't change that.
Issue orders. Everyone should be issuing orders. The Clinton/Trump president-elect, who we now just call Trump, is going to have to do a lot to start getting credit with anyone.
And anyone who thinks this is arrogant, either isn't American or needs to take a deep breath. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Americans, but do this: take a deep breath and then say, "The government is my bitch. The government will always be The People's Bitch. That is what America is." Just say it. It's not as flowery as what Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1776 but it's shorter and easier to memorize. Go on, do it. Let it be your new Pledge of Allegiance if it isn't already.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
80% of the hate I see on Twitter is from the SJW idiots... They all act like a brainless mob.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
WTF does Hillary have to do with anything? Quit trying to turn this into some partisan false dichotomy! Trump sucks on an absolute scale, regardless of the alternatives.
(Besides: it should've been Bernie. Or Johnson, or anybody who wasn't a corrupt authoritarian asshat.)
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Trump's son-in-law has also been working to push out Chris Christie. Seems he is bitter that Christie prosecuted his father for, wait for it, tax evasion among other charges!
The exaggeration has reached the point I genuinely don't know what side you are on. But this is politics - where it is impossible to produce satire that cannot be mistaken for the real thing.
I agree that TPP would be a bad thing. But the reasons that Trump opposes it are not ...
I was going to say not good reasons, but now that I think about it, and have done some googling, I can't actually find any specific reason Trump ever gave for opposing it. He described it as a "horrible deal" but that's as specific as he has ever gotten. He did say "It's a deal that was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone." But China is not a signatory to the deal, so that makes no sense.