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US Internet Firms Ask Trump To Support Encryption, Ease Regulations (reuters.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: U.S. internet companies including Facebook Inc and Amazon Inc have sent President-elect Donald Trump a detailed list of their policy priorities, which includes promoting strong encryption, immigration reform and maintaining liability protections from content that users share on their platforms. The letter sent on Monday by the Internet Association, a trade group whose 40 members also include Alphabet's Google, Uber and Twitter, represents an early effort to repair the relationship between the technology sector and Trump, who was almost universally disliked and at times denounced in Silicon Valley during the presidential campaign. Some of the policy goals stated in the letter may align with Trump's priorities, including easing regulation on the sharing economy, lowering taxes on profits made from intellectual property and applying pressure on Europe to not erect too many barriers that restrict U.S. internet companies from growing in that market. Other goals are likely to clash with Trump, who offered numerous broadsides against the tech sector during his campaign. They include supporting strong encryption in products against efforts by law enforcement agencies to mandate access to data for criminal investigations, upholding recent reforms to U.S. government surveillance programs that ended the bulk collection of call data by the National Security Agency, and maintaining net neutrality rules that require internet service providers to treat web traffic equally. The association seeks immigration reform to support more high-skilled workers staying in the United States. While urging support for trade agreements, the letter does not mention the Trans Pacific Partnership, which Trump has repeatedly assailed with claims it was poorly negotiated and would take jobs away from U.S. workers. The technology sector supported the deal, but members of Congress have conceded since the election it is not going to be enacted.
Too bad these companies and so many other people dismissed him as a joke, mocked him and his supporters relentlessly for the past year. The arrogance of these people is astounding.
I hope by "Immigration reform" they aren't hoping for an expanded H1B program. I think he made it perfectly clear that was not going to fly anymore. You know...by having the former Disney employees present on his campaign trail.
Dear Mr Trump,
You may remember us. We're the people who were suggesting that California leave the USA because you won. We also took some blame for fake news that we claim let you win. Oh, and all of us donated heavily to your main political rival, allowing her to outspend you by a pretty large margin in the Presidential campaign.
Now that you remember who we are, we'd like to ask you a small favour. Please will you do something that helps maintain the balance of power in our favour, rather than that of the instruments of the surveillance state that will be under your control?
Thanks,
A bunch of people that hate you
I am TheRaven on Soylent News
We fucking hate you. We loath your existence. We used our influence to actively campaign against you by manipulating the information the public sees and hears.
Now, here's our list of demands.
Now go away or we shall taunt you a second time-a.
Arrogant, self-entitled pieces of shit.
Maybe actually writing to the guy with reasonable requests is a better way to go about it instead of rioting, looting and posting endless inane memes on Facebook. Just a thought.
Reference The Caine Mutiny for ideas on the matter.
lowering taxes on profits made from intellectual property
The government bears a large burden for protecting your IP. Even IP that I do not agree with. If you are going to reap the benefits of that, then pay the fucking price.
Silence is a state of mime.
How about instead Trump immediately and indefinitely halts the H-1B visa program - no new H-1B visas issued, extended or renewed until further notice.
This was something he said he would do, it is popular among his supporters and as far as I am aware it is within the purview of the executive to decide who can immigrate and on what visas.
"The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, Pub.L. 82-414, enacted a provision still found in Title 8 of the U.S. Code at Section 1182(f). The provision gives the president authority to suspend the entry of any class of foreign nationals when the president deems their entry to be detrimental to the interests of the United States."
Tech ought to love that.
Some quotes from his Twitter:
"I have officially cast my vote for @HillaryClinton... Let's make history tonight! #ImWithHer #electionday"
"Clinton wiped the floor with Trump tonight. Say hello to your next president, America! #debatenight"
"Trump is a saggy sack of shit. If any one of you is even remotely considering voting for him this November, please unfollow me."
And so on. And now he clearly uses his position on Slashdot to push articles against Trump twice every day or even more often. Can't whipslash do anything about it? Guy's starting to get boring with his propaganda.
How about a standard encryption for email, to comply with HIPAA, so the stupid FAX MACHINES will DIE OFF. Been working on them, printers, photocopiers, computers for over 35 years and with VoIP sometimes it's almost impossible to get fax machines to work with VoIP. Some healthcare agencies I have to deal with WILL NOT authorize Fax to email or anything other than a straight fax machine or fax MFP. 9600-14.4k bps is about the max you can get. People are use to attaching a 30-40 page file to email, complain how long it takes to fax a 30 page fax....PLEASE, standardize email encryption, make it where these stupid antiques called fax machines can go the way of the telegram.
Let it go, son... just... just... let it go... It's getting tedious...
+1 fact. Have you also noticed how the related links at the bottom are always manipulated to present either an anti-Trump or pro-SJW agenda?
Today's related links:
-Brexit
-Another dead guy
-Capitalism = bad
-Butthurt over losing the election
-Anti-Trump article
Trump? A negotiator? I guess that answers why no U.S. bank would lend to his alleged companies any longer. And the word in the business world was that if you deal with Trump, get your money up front first...but expect a lawsuit later. The only people stupid enough to "negotiate" with Trump lately were a bunch of clueless foreigners who didn't know him for what he really is, i.e., Sargent Bilko's mentor.
He's a deal maker only in the sense that a small-time bunko artist is a deal maker.
Yes he sues everyone out of love and understanding!
What did Rosie do to try to mend fences? She doubled down on criticism. What do you expect - this is Trump, after all.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Are these the same 'Internet firms' who's leaders were talking of California secession a few days ago after the election?
Yep, Smoot–Hawley Tariff worked so well in 1930's for the U.S. Let's have a few rounds of that to make everyone richer.
All of the self-styled super educated people who mock Trump voters as rubes
Is it OK to mock the Trump supporters who are birthers? It's a small fraction, only 40% or so.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
I support free trade so long as the deck isnt stacked against us.
What we have done is set up barriers to equal competition, stacked the deck. Environmental regulations that our "trade partners" dont have, labor laws that our "trade partners" dont have, and so on.
China makes everything because they are willing to pollute more and artificially hold their currency low so that Chinese wages stay cheap. The deck is stacked against us. There are plenty of other south east asian countries and a few south american countries also willing to do the same.
I suspect the Trump administration will be pro-encryption, anti-H1B, and seek out targeted trade deals that have strings attached (not "free trade.")
"His name was James Damore."
If they want to import or sell anything in the US, then there might be some import tariffs to pay.
The NYT thinks you are full of shit. I do too.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Because it's the way things get done with him?
Anyone hoping to get policy support from him better used to treating him to luxury, complimenting him profusely, and pitching every concept to him as if it's his idea and it's going to make him look good. Some attacks against those he's currently in feuds with will likewise go a long way.
It's times like this I wish I had a friend named 'The Professor'.
He agrees a deal then reneges on the deal. He's done that time and time again with all of his suppliers. Anyone who voted for this con man thinks he won't do that to them? Why do they think they're special to him?
Look at the way he's trying to get out of the Paris CO2 agreements by reneging on it.
His promises are worthless.
He got the majority of electoral college votes, which is -- quite literally -- all that matters in this election. The EC was designed in part to ensure it would be next to impossible for a candidate to win if they did not have the support of sparsely populated rural areas as well as densely populated urban areas. That's the way it's always been, and for good reason -- and that's why Idaho has the same number of senators as New York. Those complaining about it now sound like football coaches whining that they lost even though they accumulated more offensive yards then the other team. If the election WERE to be won by a majority vote, and that was stated at the outset, then Trump would have just campaigned in the urban areas like Clinton did, modified his platform accordingly, and he still would have beaten her. You can't change the rules after you lose...
Endless hate is not really a characteristic of Trump. Pragmatism is.
C'mon now...
Who's going to read it to him?
You are welcome on my lawn.
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We loathe you with every fiber of our being. Here's a list of what we want.
The list of their requests has been strongly encrypted with their own software, but they forgot to send the key to Trump....
Premiums were going up that much before Obamacare was enacted.
By the way, I notice the GOP congress just passed the $2.5billion bill for high-risk pools, which they would not pass for the past 3 years. This is why premiums went up and now they're going to try to make sure it's all working by the time Trump takes office.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Unfortunately that's the situation with everything and it's not just a problem for the US, but much of the Western world as a whole - you can argue it's our problem with terrorism, and national security against countries like Russia too.
We can't deal with terrorists because we adhere to the Geneva convention and they don't.
We can't deal with Russia because we adhere to international norms and they just walk into a sovereign neighbours borders and take territory.
We can't deal with tax havens because we adhere to international monetary norms on free trade, whilst they facilitate transactions of stolen money.
Normally none of this is a problem because we have so much excess be it wealth, bombs and troops, political influence that we can let them all bend the rules a bit.
But unfortunately since the financial crisis this just isn't true, and so yes, I think there has to be a point where we have to question whether it's worth always backing the moral highground even to the point it causes us substantial harm and we can no longer turn a blind eye to it. The problem is then though, other nations may slip further and you risk engaging in a race to the bottom.
It's a tough balancing act for sure, but I think in at least some cases - i.e. the Geneva convention, it makes no sense to apply it unless your opposition does also, otherwise they'll win.
This is a list of terrible things with a few positive points slipped in. Bringing back any variation of the TPP terms would be terrible and the "reform" they have in mind for "immigration" wouldn't be reform at all, it would be further deepening the problem. Reform would be eliminating the h1b program and offshoring not expanding it.
He got the majority of electoral college votes, which is -- quite literally -- all that matters in this election. The EC was designed in part to ensure it would be next to impossible for a candidate to win if they did not have the support of sparsely populated rural areas as well as densely populated urban areas. That's the way it's always been, and for good reason -- and that's why Idaho has the same number of senators as New York. Those complaining about it now sound like football coaches whining that they lost even though they accumulated more offensive yards then the other team. If the election WERE to be won by a majority vote, and that was stated at the outset, then Trump would have just campaigned in the urban areas like Clinton did, modified his platform accordingly, and he still would have beaten her. You can't change the rules after you lose...
No, not really. If you have the support of the eleventh most populous states, you automatically win the EC, and thus the election. The EC wasn't designed to give small states a voice, it was designed pretty much exclusively so that a vote wouldn't require a guy on horseback to have to ride all the way down south to Alabama and bring the result back up. Any effect it has on the balance of power is a side effect, and I don't really think it's a good one either. People living in rural areas rarely, if ever, have to deal with the consequences of their policies - is it fair to give their vote 4x the count exclusively because they live farther away???
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
I suppose it's a typical leftist mindset that people should be able to break contracts and essentially steal money from the other party by not fulfilling their obligations while pocketing the money. Apparently Trump doesn't agree with that. Good on him.
What the hell does being a left minded person have to do with fulfilling a contact? Especially when Trump was quite happy with the work until it came time to pay up???
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Uh, Trump said at the Al Smith dinner that Hilary made him like even Rosie a bit more
OMG! That's simply not true! Horses!? WTF? You're either lying or willfully ignorant. Here are just a handful of citations that support my statement:
http://dailysignal.com/2016/11...
http://www.history.com/topics/...
http://www.historycentral.com/...
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/...
Show me what you got that supports your Horseback premise. Take your time...
I have pretty good luck with "most" VoIP systems, as long as their ATA's have the T.38 protocols by pretty much dumbing down the fax to just a plain ole G3, disabling any short protocols, setting the compression to MH/MMH and a few other settings, but once in a while, you'll get the one or two numbers it just will not work with. The biggest complaint is "the lines of words look like a barcode" from dropped packet/noise.
Actually, wait a minute. It makes sense, but it has jack shit to do with the electoral college nonsense.
The day before the election, there was one thing that every one of us knew: whoever won, would not have the support anywhere close to half of the country. Had Clinton won, nobody would be kissing her ass either, you know.
One of the very best reasons to vote for Trump, was to try to prevent Clinton from becoming president. Just as the best reason to vote for Clinton was to prevent Trump from becoming president. I realize people in those camps might have had other reasons for voting the way they did, but they were a minority. (Don't blame me; I voted for Johnson. I tried to help both efforts and also get a great president too. Yeah, call me unrealistically greedy.)
As it happens, one of the efforts failed and the other succeeded. But let's not pretend that plenty of people who voted for Trump weren't gagging as they did it. You damn well know it's true, just as there was plenty of Clinton-voter vomit found in the voting booths also.
Everyone needs to keep the same attitude that they had when they thought Clinton was going to win: president-elect, you're our bitch. The president is still going to be our bitch, and nobody should forget that. Getting the election results didn't change that.
Issue orders. Everyone should be issuing orders. The Clinton/Trump president-elect, who we now just call Trump, is going to have to do a lot to start getting credit with anyone.
And anyone who thinks this is arrogant, either isn't American or needs to take a deep breath. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Americans, but do this: take a deep breath and then say, "The government is my bitch. The government will always be The People's Bitch. That is what America is." Just say it. It's not as flowery as what Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1776 but it's shorter and easier to memorize. Go on, do it. Let it be your new Pledge of Allegiance if it isn't already.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
80% of the hate I see on Twitter is from the SJW idiots... They all act like a brainless mob.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
No deals can be made with TRUMPENSTEIN. He never honors his deals. He will betray. The TRUMPASTOPHY is upon us. Fight back in every way that you can. Ask nothing of the monster and humiliate him in every way at every opportunity. Organize a TRUMPENSTEIN comic book competition among the tech and nerd communities. Make TRUMPENSTEIN movies. Impeach the creep before he takes office. Come on people. Bloom ! Be all that you can be ! Be creative and join the good fight. Maybe even TRUMPENSTEIN porn movie showing the rape of the 13 year old girl by the orange duck. And label that orange pumpkin TRUMPENSTEIN with a blond wig on it ! Make note that the media is hiding the huge protests breaking out all over America.
Uh, have you already forgotten Hillary's awesome little love-in with Putin? You know, where she got all schmaltzy and handed him the the big red button as she was resetting the relationship with him because he wasn't such a bad guy and apologized for the evil Mr. Bush having suggested that Putin might not have the best intentions for the US and world peace?
Yeah, Hillary was a complete enemy to Putin.
Well of course the Founding Fathers didn't want some guy to have to ride down to Alabama on horseback to get the vote count. They expected the guy in Alabama to send it to DC. I find it absolutely hilarious that people actually believe the Electoral College was put into place because they believe that the Founding Fathers didn't understand how to add up numbers brought to them from various states but could only figure out how to have those various states send some number of people and count the number of people. Oh yeah, and completely forgetting that the number of people sent by each state was determined by sending out people to count how many people lived in each state and return to DC with the results.
(Yes, I understand that it wasn't actually DC at the time of the writing of the US Constitution.)
You're a little over the top, you know. It almost sounds like you believe campaign rhetoric. Not very wise.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
I suppose it's a typical leftist mindset that people should be able to break contracts and essentially steal money from the other party by not fulfilling their obligations while pocketing the money. Apparently Trump doesn't agree with that. Good on him.
If I were a democrat, I'd be more worried about all the funds the clintons took in bribes and the liabilities those bribes created.
Some of those folks didn't get what they were promised for their money. Some might get their money back, the ones that don't might act out.
I suppose it's a typical leftist mindset that people should be able to break contracts and essentially steal money from the other party by not fulfilling their obligations while pocketing the money. Apparently Trump doesn't agree with that. Good on him.
So now it's "leftist" when the Flim Flam Führer doesn't pay his contractors? It's "leftist" when he reneges on his debts? It's "leftist" when management helps itself to a pension fund?
Free clue: "leftist" does not mean "people I don't like."
Ooh, moderator points! Five more idjits go to Minus One Hell!
Delendae sunt RIAA, MPAA et Windoze
I live in a blue state, and it is quite sad how many of the special snowflakes here were not even aware the EC existed until last Tuesday and still believe, even now, that we live in an absolute democracy.
The exaggeration has reached the point I genuinely don't know what side you are on. But this is politics - where it is impossible to produce satire that cannot be mistaken for the real thing.
I also like to think that they will keep Obamacare because it's the one issue that got them elected and if Obamacare went away they'd have to actually get off their asses and start governing.
Good business sense to donate to both sides of a campaign, and to ingratiate yourself to a likely winner, and to ingratiate yourself to an actual winner. This has nothing to do with actual politics, it's just basic butt kissing to get the government's favor. And it has happened forever. If people are only now annoyed with this practice maybe they haven't been paying attention, or are annoyed because they assumed business-as-usual would not continue to occur after Trump was elected.
As a Democrat (most of the time), it isn't clear to me that bribery was going on, and, if so, none of it is binding and there are no secret liabilities. Bribes don't work that way.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
You seem to have a much more favorable view of Putin than I do.
There is evidence that Trump has likely unsavory connections with Putin, but Trump supporters don't seem to have cared. It would have been real nice to get that thrashed out during the campaign. Clearly, Trump would have been elected if he were indeed a Putin puppet.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes