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The US Government is Finally Telling People that Homeopathy is a Sham (vox.com)
Not a good news for people who trust homeopathic drugs. The Federal Trade Commission has issued an enforcement policy statement that requires over-the-counter (OTC) homeopathic drugs and products makers to disclose in their advertisement and labeling that there is no evidence that Homeopathic products are effective and also mention that modern medical experts don't recognize any claims of effectiveness only based on homeopathic theories. From a report on Vox: This FTC ruling is definitely a step in the right direction of raising awareness about the lack of evidence behind homeopathy. "This is a real victory for reason, science, and the health of the American people," said Michael De Dora, public policy director for the Center for Inquiry, a science-based advocacy and education group that's been pushing for more homeopathy oversight. "The FTC has made the right decision to hold manufacturers accountable for the absolutely baseless assertions they make about homeopathic products." But it doesn't mean these "medicines" will disappear from store shelves. The FTC only has the right to crack down on misleading marketing claims, and if the makers of homeopathic remedies clearly state that their products are based on no science, they can still sell them.
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I've known a lot of people who try homeopathic treatments, some of them work but they always seem like a scam. We did a homeopathic wart treatment for my son. It worked great, but the $200 'tincture' was basically just alcohol with some herbs and shit in it. The next time he had a wart on the other foot, we did the same thing but instead bought a 99 cent bottle of alcohol to put on the bandaid and it worked just as well.
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People who believe in homeopathy also tend to believe that the government, big pharma, and these "experts" are all working together to funnel money into their own pockets, so "of course they're going to lie and say that homeopathy is fake because they want us to buy their overpriced poisons!"
how the fuck is it "Not good news for people who trust homeopathic drugs."? so telling people the truth because it goes against their misguided beliefs is bad news? personally I will take a dose of truth over being continually deceived any day.
Essentially - and my wife is completely obsessed with one particular practicioner, which is why I got familiar with this - the whole homeopathic preparation is some small amount of a "good thing" like an essential oil. Then they put in so much distilled water that there probably isn't a single molecule of the "good thing" in the solution dose you get. The idea behind it is that there is some kind of spiritual residue of the good stuff in the resulting "solution". Then they package it - whether it's in a sugar pill or a little bottle of water with an eyedropper attached.
I stopped pointing this out to her because she believes in the person, not the process, and I can't shake that from her with words. Perhaps when the cat dies from his allergies that were unaffected by the distilled water he gets dropped in his mouth daily? Maybe then, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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No. There is a huge proportion of US society that is hoodwinked by these fake nostrums. The bloody veterinarian here in town sells that crap FFS. They're the only vet within 50 miles, too. There a store here, a "healthfood store" that sells all manner of that shite.
It's everywhere. I'm glad you're smart enough to know better, and yes, a lot of others are too, but that still leaves a huge proportion of the population. The government is very late to this party, and huge harm has been done because of that, but join the party they should -- it's important.
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Vaccines are not like homeopathic preparations. The good stuff isn't dissolved into insignificance in them.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Is there any overlap there?
My built-in ideology meter says homeopathy people lean way left and Trump people mostly right.
Yet there seems to be kind of a similar level of denial of reality in both camps.
Evidence, schmevidence. What does your faith tell you? You're not going to trust your life and your body to people who don't have the right feelings, are you?
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Contrary to what many in this thread are assuming, homeopathic "remedies" do not contain anything but water. Homeopathy is based on the crackpot idea that you can take something, potentially poisonous, dilute it, then dilute it again. and again until nothing is left other than pure water that happens to retain the "molecular memory" of only medicinal properties. It makes no sense. At least with "herbs and shit" you have actual chemical components that humans have been screwing around with for thousands of years. This does not change the fact that many so called homeopathic remedies are marketed as such while containing something other than water. Typically it is pure grain alcohol. I worked at a few GNC stores back in the 90's. On one day my boss and I got drunk off of a few drops of some flu "remedy". I made like $700 in commision that day.
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the whole homeopathic preparation is some small amount of a "good thing" like an essential oil.
Nope. It's actually a small amount of a bad thing.
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Why san't they just throw a lump of it in the sea and cure all known diseases forever?
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Furthermore, sometimes the other stuff in the potion can actually be bad for you. Studies have found homeopathic potions contaminated with heavy metals and microorganisms that could cause sickness or make it worse. Usually, the dose of this stuff is small enough that it probably won't hurt you, but the point is, the best that can be said about homeopathics isn't "at least it's just water."
My current GF (who is, of all things, an orthodontist) is into this shit. She's trying to get me off of my meds and onto "red rice yeast".
You'd think that someone who went to three major dental schools would know better.
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But it doesn't mean these "medicines" will disappear from store shelves. The FTC only has the right to crack down on misleading marketing claims, and if the makers of homeopathic remedies clearly state that their products are based on no science, they can still sell them.
So essentially, you can still sell your homeopathic remedies as long you're willing to water down your claims as to their efficacy until those claims can no longer be detected.
But if watered-down homeopathy actually turns out to be the cure for homeopathy, won't that mean they were right all along?
You do know that Airborne isn't homeopathic, don't you?
Sadly, I had a friend who used homeopathy.
He forgot to take it one day, and OD'ed.
I call bullshit. Cite your source, here's mine.
http://www.fda.gov/Food/Guidan...
See section S2.
Go into one of these quackatoriums, and get some homeopathic "medicine". When you get to the register, take out a vial of water, and explain to the cashier that you dipped a one dollar bill into that water, then diluted it 1,000 times. That should cover the bill.
Agreed. I made that mistake once, and I'm not making it again. You may think acceptance of some alt-med stuff like chiropractic and homeopathy is fairly innocuous, but pretty soon that person is visiting New Age "counselors" and talking about the "Ascended Masters", "St Germain and the violet flame", and all other kinds of wackiness, plus insisting on spending inordinate amounts of money on it.
What I'd really like to see is a serious survey to determine if beliefs in this quackery are more common among women than men. I'll bet it is. Women are already known to be more religious than men, and beliefs in "medicine" not backed by evidence are basically like religion.
So you're saying that homeopathy is like.. Tinkerbell?
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"What I'd really like to see is a serious survey to determine if beliefs in this quackery are more common among women than men"
I observe this too, but I don't think it has anything to do with women's brains. It's the common feminine culture that makes women, above all else, incurious. This is why women not specifically trained in a technology tend to reject science and replace it with the 'feelings' of the nearest shaman.
There are some really good chiropractors though.
I also, just like you, have some anecdotal evidence to prove my point.
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