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Tesla Runs an Entire Island on Solar Power (engadget.com)

Jon Fingas, writing for Engadget:Now that Tesla has officially acquired SolarCity, it's not wasting any time showing what the combined entity can do. Tesla has revealed that it's running the island of Ta'u (in American Samoa) on a solar energy microgrid that, at 1.4 megawatts, can cover "nearly 100 percent" of electrical needs. It's not just the 5,328 solar panels that are key -- it's the 60 Tesla Powerpacks that offer 6 megawatt-hours of energy storage. While Ta'u is normally very sunny, the packs can keep it running for three days without sunlight. They don't have to worry about a cloudy day leading to blackouts. The solar switch, which took a year to complete, has both its long-term environmental and immediate practical benefits. Like many remote communities, Ta'u previously had to run on diesel generators. That burns 300 gallons of fuel per day, which is neither eco-friendly nor cheap. Solar eliminates the pollution, of course, but it also saves the cost of having to continuously buy and ship barrels of diesel. And crucially, it provides a more reliable source of electricity.

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  1. Solar makes a lot of sense by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As indicated, shipping fossil fuel has high costs, and operation is noisy. Sunlight works even on cloudy days, and you can run desalination plants using solar, and it withstands weather effects fairly well.

    Many islands operate with a hybrid solar and wind system, especially in equatorial regions.

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    1. Re:Solar makes a lot of sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      However, overcast does not mean no power from solar. With the reduce power from the solar panels plus the batteries being fully charged to run for three days you probably have enough power to run six to seven days before the batteries are totally drained

      So it is very unlikely that you will have too little sun in a tropical island to keep it running.

      E.C.P.

  2. Mold by marklark · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While the idea of a sunny Pacific island may seem like an easy and ideal place for solar power, this may not be the case.

    When I worked for NOAA, I heard wild stories about how the molds in Samoa would destroy our scientific instruments. They would even eat glass... This should prove an interesting and challenging situation.

    1. Re:Mold by SubtleGuest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It isn't eating the glass it is eating the coating on it. No organism eats glass as an energy source.

    2. Re:Mold by dwywit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It doesn't "eat" it. The fungus grows between lens elements. It seems to like the glue. Lost a nice Nikkor 200mm lens that way. It's fixable, but not economic to do so.

      The PV frames would (unless pre-emptively treated) corrode in the salty, damp air, but as they sit in harsh sunlight for extended periods, I think fungus would be somewhat down on the list of problems. Salty air can kill domestic computers inside 1 year, so junction boxes, blocking diodes, micro-inverters, etc would all have to be treated with sealant before installation. Same with all the controller circuitry, chargers, inverters, etc.

      Today's price of diesel in Brisbane - AUD$1.13/litre
      300 litres/day x 365 days = AUD$123,735.00 per annum
      Transport and maintenance of fuel and gensets = ?

      The payback period needs to be shorter than the Panel/battery system's expected lifespan, but as someone else has pointed out, there are benefits other than economic.

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  3. Re:Cost? by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't forget the shipping cost of those 300 gallons of diesel per day, the maintenance and parts required for the generators, etc.

  4. Re:Installation cost? by ledow · · Score: 3, Informative

    At $2.50 a gallon (seems to be current US price?), 300 gallons a day costs $750.

    Which means that THE BATTERY for that system that runs for 3 days only without solar would cost the equivalent of 10 years of diesel.

    Sure, there's a lot of losses, shipping, conversion, other equipment on the diesel side, but there's also a lot of solar etc. required on the Tesla side that's unaccounted for above. And it would take 10 years to break even just on the battery storage alone, let alone the solar + battery.

    Sure, it's not linked to oil prices, but it's still only just verging on "viable" assuming nothing ever goes wrong. Same as every "green" project I've ever done the numbers for.

  5. Re:Installation cost? by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're thinking of the US cost. That's going to be a lot different on an island like this in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Take that $2.50 per gallon, and multiply it by the cost of shipping to Samoa. At an offhand guess, you're talking anywhere from 5 to 10 times as expensive.

  6. Perfect Proof of Concept by powerlord · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the perfect proof of concept that Musk is aligning all the pieces needed for Mars Base 1.

    SolarCity for the energy collection
    Tesla for the storage and local transportation
    SpaceX for the "long haul" to/from Mars, as an umbrella for the expedition and for the environmental pieces (habitat design, space suits).

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  7. Re:Installation cost? by Kinematics · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Diesel cost in Samoa as of last July (quick Google check) was $2.06 to $2.28 per liter. That's between $7.80 and $8.63 per gallon. Call it $8.00. 300 gallons per day, 365 days per year, gives an annual cost of roughly $876,000. A $2.75 million battery cost would be paid for in saved fuel costs in a little over 3 years.

    Still have to figure in the solar panel costs. It's a 1.4 MW microgrid. Current Google response on solar panel costs is $3.57 per watt. There's federal compensation for solar installations (~30%), but I have no idea whether they'd be able to get any funding/credit for that, given that it's not a home installation. So going with the $3.57 value, 1.4 million watts would cost $4,998,000.

    Total cost is thus $7.75 million. Figure maintenance costs balance out with the diesel setup (less to break, more expensive per break), so no real effect there.

    Total buyback cost in terms of diesel fuel would thus be slightly under 9 years, not counting inflation or continued increases in fuel prices. Allowing for cost fluctuations, you could then say that the entire solar grid plus batteries should for itself within 10 years, which is a pretty decent rate. As long as the replacement time is significantly above that, it's a good deal.

  8. Re:Cost? by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Diesel usually cannot be stored for longer than one or two years:
    Diesel bug is a thing.

    That's actually another reason for regular generator tests in backup facilities:
    It frees up storage volume that can be filled with fresher fuel.

  9. Re:and you beleive what he said by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

    He has altered the deal. Pray he does not alter it further.

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  10. Re:Sure by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All of which, added up, is no more than a small fraction of the environmental cost of pumping, transporting, refining, flying in and then burning all that diesel.

    If there is an award for the comment that best embodies the slack-jawed, drooling idiocy of the neo-conservative right, surely it should be won by the one above.

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  11. Re:Cost? by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a small island community, building a deep water port and the associated fuel storage/distribution infrastructure just so you can "buy in bulk" is economic insanity.

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  12. Re:Cost? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Informative

    Keep in mind, also, that you need a harbor that can support a 20,000 DWT tanker.

  13. Re:Tesla Runs an Entire Island by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It'd be a real shame if Ta'u can't keep up the payments to Solar City and their power controllers all stopped working at the same time.

    As opposed to the regular diesel shipments, which would definitely continue to arrive whether any payments were made or not?

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