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Reddit CEO Admits To Editing User Comments Amid Pizzagate Malarkey (cnet.com)

Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, today admitted to editing several comments that criticized him on the site. He made the admission on Reddit, where he posts under the username Spez. CNET adds: Huffman got a lot of flak from members of the The_Donald, a subreddit for supporters of President-elect Donald Trump, after Reddit banned the Pizzagate subreddit. Pizzagate was dedicated to a debunked conspiracy theory linking Hillary Clinton to a paedophile ring. In response, he edited comments reading "fuck Spez" to instead be directed at moderators of the The_Donald subreddit. "I messed with the "fuck u/spez" comments, replacing "spez" with r/the_donald mods for about an hour. It's been a long week here trying to unwind the r/pizzagate stuff," he wrote. "As much as we try to maintain a good relationship with you all, it does get old getting called a pedophile constantly." Huffman added: "Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won't do this again."

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  1. Debunked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Debunked by who?

    1. Re: Debunked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well by Snopes of course! The obviously Non-Partisan fact checkers of the world who would NEVER lie for The Clintons.

    2. Re:Debunked? by clampolo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      By anyone who looks at it. A pizza restuarant posting pictures of kids does not make it a pedophile ring. Hell they were so far lost they were convinced the birthday bracelet biden made for obama had a slice of pizza on it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp... If you can't see that that's a piece of cake you really aren't in touch with reality.

      The question isn't whether or not it is true. The question is a message board deciding what is true and deleting things they disagree with.

    3. Re: Debunked? by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

      This isn't unique. Slashdot is run by VERY NICE PEOPLE.

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    4. Re:Debunked? by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) Alefantis is not a "friend" of Clinton; he's just a supporter. He's never met her.

      2) The art in his restaurant is weird, but it's not "kids being tortured or placed in sexual poses"

      3) The case in Haiti was 10 Baptist missionaries from Idaho trying to rescue children after the earthquake without permits. The missionaries had previously planned to build an orphanage and school in the Dominican Republic. There are Podesta emails that mention Silsby, but in the context of current events and how the US government should handle what had become an international diplomatic issue between the US and Haiti (aka, Hillary's job). Example here. Silsby is in no way a "friend" of Clinton.

      You all have a strange way of declaring everyone to be a "friend" of Clinton.

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    5. Re:Debunked? by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It was deleted because people were using it to harass people in the real world, some users were even making up stories about unrelated restuarants and posting child pornography to go with those stories.

      Not quite true. People there weren't harassing people, nor were they doxing them. There was a non-doxing/harassment rule like on most subs. What's interesting is that members of the /r/pizzagate mod team have claimed that the administration were unbanning people, who were being banned by the subs mods. Those people who were being banned included those who were doxing, and posting CP. On top of this, that subreddit had already broken open a massive CP ring on twitter. Last count ~7000(I've seen numbers as high at 14k) or more accounts. Twitter's response so far has been to ban the people who found the accounts. Some of those CP accounts have been banned but most have not.

      This entire thing stinks. On top of that with Spez deciding to pull this bullshit, they've also likely lost their safe harbor provisions. On top of that, toss in the absolutely weird shit in the podesta emails, including wording that seems to indicate some kind of pedophile stuff going on? They may have found something, they might not have. But reddit turning around and banning the sub is going to toss more fuel on the fire.

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    6. Re:Debunked? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, he didn't delete anything. He edited some insults directed at himself.

      It's still bad, but it's not like he was trying to stop people posting their conspiracy theories. The more I think about it the more stupid it seems. Wow, the site owner can edit posts, what a shock.

      Reddit isn't some highly respected debate forum that claims to be totally non partisan and allow absolutely any content.

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    7. Re:Debunked? by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Reality. That and everyone who's ever looked into it. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11...

    8. Re:Debunked? by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because reddit has realised that angry, toxic crazies are making it miserable for the more sane majority, so they're finally not letting them have the run of the place. All those people are off to voat. I do not have a problem with that.

      Really? Because they sure do seem to be catering to those angry, toxic crazies that are there. You know the ones, in /r/shitredditsays /r/circlebroke /r/offmychest and so on. Those same subs that have a history of doxing and harassing people. Oh I get it, you're okay with the insane angry left-wingers that attack people for perceived insults and slights, while engaging in witch hunts.

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    9. Re: Debunked? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      8th biggest US site (according to Alexa rankings) altering user comments isn't newsworthy? If I'm an investor, I might be concerned that the CEO is trolling in a way that could endanger safe harbor provisions.

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  2. And what else? by nefus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But what else has he edited and not fessed up to?

    1. Re:And what else? by Cederic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, he should. That's called moderation and is a reasonable activity for a site owner to undertake, in an open and transparent manner (which may preclude 'shadowban', depending how Reddit interprets/implements that).

      Instead of destroyed any credibility Reddit may have had remaining by guaranteeing that you can no longer trust that anything posted there has any relationship to what the person identified as posting it intended to say. It may instead be pushing an agenda the CEO or one of his friends wants instead.

      It's a grotesque betrayal of trust, an utter lack of ethics and completely fucking unforgiveable.

    2. Re:And what else? by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      4chan, of all places, lost its shit when the owner had to ban GamerGate.

      That's probably because the people in Gamergate were right. Never mind that mootles didn't have any problems with project chanology, until he got leaned on by them. And the so-called people who claimed they were "anti-harassment specialists" were the ones out there harassing, doxing, and doing the shit that they claim gamergate was. The "game journalism" industry is and was corrupt, several of those sites are now gone though. Having collapsed under their own corruption, many of the people involved in the "gamers are dead" articles are no longer writing in the industry. People like Sarkeesian have moved on to a new batch of suckers(just a fyi her dvd videos are only like 4 years late now and she hasn't even finished the project). But you can see that in the gamejournopros leaks exactly how corrupt. Not only were authors colluding, they were pushing particular political and social narratives. Shit like doritogate and kane & lynch were just the start. It took years for it to finally hit a breaking point. You know, much like how the brexit campaign or Trump's election.

      But I'm guessing that you haven't learned anything from those two cases either.

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  3. its not just an oopsie by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won't do this again."

    Huffman might not know it, but hes just torpedoed reddit as a source of valid independent discussion by exposing the ability to not only edit posts he didnt author, but to inject a political message in his favour. Im sure Stalin is applauding from beyond the grave.

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  4. Admits by ChoGGi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but doesn't apologize...

  5. Are you naive ? by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For all practical intent and purpose, all BBS and reddit like can be edtable by default. in fact you have to spend money to add security , encryption, and ensure non editability. Unless it is a selling point, you should always assume that everything is editable to match whatever goals political or not.

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  6. Apology? by Alypius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suppose this is what I get for not RTFA, but the CEO admitted to doing it, obliquely mocked the people pissed at him for doing it, and never apologized? So not only do we have social media moguls decrying "fake news" but now we have social media moguls actually manufacturing it.