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NASA X-Ray Tech Could Enable Superfast Communication In Deep Space (space.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Space.com: New technology could use X-rays to transmit data at high rates over vast distances in outer space, as well as enable communications with hypersonic vehicles during re-entry, when radio communications are impossible, NASA scientists say. The technology would combine multiple NASA projects currently in progress to demonstrate the feasibility of X-ray communications from outside the International Space Station. The radio waves used by mobile phones, Wi-Fi and, of course, radios, are one kind of light. Other forms of light can carry data as well; for instance, fiber-optic telecommunications rely on pulses of visible and near-infrared light. The effort to use another type of light, X-rays, for communication started with research on NASA's proposed Black Hole Imager. That mission is designed to analyze the edges of the supermassive black holes that previous research suggested exist at the centers of most, if not all, large galaxies. One potential strategy to enable the Black Hole Imager was to develop a constellation of precisely aligned spacecraft to collect X-rays emitted from the edges of those black holes. Keith Gendreau, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, thought of developing X-ray emitters that these spacecraft could use as navigational beacons to make sure they stayed in position relative to one another. The system would keep them aligned down to a precision of just 1 micron, or about one-hundredth the average width of a human hair. Gendreau then reasoned that by modulating or varying the strength or frequency of these X-ray transmissions on and off many times per second, these navigational beacons could also serve as a communication system. Such X-ray communication, or XCOM, might, in theory, permit gigabit-per-second data rates throughout the solar system, he said. One advantage that XCOM has compared to laser communication in deep space is that X-rays have shorter wavelengths than the visible or infrared light typically used in laser communication. Moreover, X-rays can penetrate obstacles that impede radio communication.

58 comments

  1. The invention of the com-laser by chthon · · Score: 2

    also usable as a weapon when you are really desperate

    1. Re:The invention of the com-laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also usable to plant malware, as done by the Excession to the Peace Makes Plenty.

    2. Re:The invention of the com-laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Lenin, they are building Röntgen lasers, again! Will the comrades of Central Committee blow up the budgets this time?

    3. Re:The invention of the com-laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other news, Pr0nhub launch an extraterrestrial X-ray voyeurism section.

    4. Re:The invention of the com-laser by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Just hope the enemy thinks you aren't armed, until it's too late.

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  2. Lets call it what we really want to call it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sub space communications :)

  3. Slightly misleading headline by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 3, Informative

    The information won't get there any quicker; X-rays don't yet travel faster than light. Rather the technology will allow very high bitrates.

    Still, it's good news that we will be able to browse pr0n in space.

    1. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my thoughts exactly when I read the headline. It sounds like "high-bandwidth, reliable" instead of "superfast" would have been more appropriate.

      But still, it's not like this is a tech site for nerds or anything. Gotta make it a bit more approachable for the less tech-savvy masses, so I guess we can give them a pass on the silly description, right?

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    2. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I.e. it's the same as superfast broadband (usually even more of a misnomer).

    3. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The last data packet will get there faster. Any single bit won't get to the destination faster but the meaningful information will.

    4. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

      The information won't get there any quicker; X-rays don't yet travel faster than light.

      I think the idea is that the x-rays will allow us to see inside alien starships, to steal their FTL technology.

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    5. Re:Slightly misleading headline by quenda · · Score: 1

      The information won't get there any quicker; X-rays don't yet travel faster than light.

      Do you make the same pedantic comment every time somebody talks about "high-speed internet"?
      In communications terms, speed is bits-per-second. You are thinking of latency, not speed.

    6. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      ISPs also describe their services as "unlimited", so I'm not so sure I'd use their marketing jargon as a good benchmark for accurate technical descriptions.

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    7. Re: Slightly misleading headline by brasselv · · Score: 1

      Also, while on earth the "actual speed" of each bit is actually irrelevant as long as at or around the speed of light, FTL information would be a game changer in space, no matter the bandwidth.
      (Of course, physics and all that, not a possibility as far as we know)

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    8. Re:Slightly misleading headline by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Wait, I thought Light was EM radiation. So confusing. Are X-Rays light, or EM, or is light EM, or when does EM no longer qualify as Light?

      Or is this all String Theory?

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    9. Re:Slightly misleading headline by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      To be fair, it may be possible to use X-Rays to transmit terabyte-speed data.

      That's fast. Data. Bandwidth. More Bandwidth!

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    10. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wave-particle duality, it's rather confusing at times. Short answer is that it's more or less both, to some degree.

    11. Re: Slightly misleading headline by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Also, far less interference.

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    12. Re:Slightly misleading headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Light and electromagnetic radiation are the same thing. Sometimes the term visible light is used to distinguish the part of the spectrum we can see, although occasionally someone will colloquially refer to that as just light.

    13. Re:Slightly misleading headline by glenebob · · Score: 2

      X-rays don't yet travel faster than light.

      Yet? Are we expecting a change in the Universe Simulator light speed rule set?

  4. We Obey The Speed Limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure that those superfast X-rays are no faster than the microwaves you use at home.

    1. Re:We Obey The Speed Limit by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      So it will still take about 2 minutes to boil 240cc of water? To be honest, that's a little disappointing.

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  5. Actally we should be talking x-ray lasers. by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    It's the best of all technologies. One could then control the total radiation amount and focus or diffuse it as per needs. This is the obvious technology to use for interplanetary links. When it is implemented it will cause minor issues for astronomers and as such they will have to send future telescopes further and further to the edges of our solar system. A focused x-ray laser would actually be very safe.

    1. Re:Actally we should be talking x-ray lasers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The comment above makes no sense whatsoever; besides, we already have X-Ray Lasers, which still depend on Atomic Quantum-level transitions.
      The Future Tech will be Gamma Ray Lasers, that make use of Nuclear Transitions; some work on this was done at Livermore about two decades ago. They got around the inversion problem by having the neutral Hafnium nuclei very loosely molecularly bound inside a Plasma, and using two-stage Neutron-Gamma pumping. Unfortunately, no gain was seen, but they learned a whole lot about excited 178Hf Gamma Ray Spectra. (The 1999 Livermore Report focussed on the impracticability of using 178Hf for Energy Storage or the very rapid release of same. Grasing was barely mentioned.)

      So why bother? Grasers operate at such a short wavelength that matter is mostly transparent to it, that is, the matter that we interact with- Electron Shells. So there is very little scatter, and the coherence is so tight that we can detect GRBs actually sweeping by us when we choose to look, from over many many millions of Light Years away. Which is rather the point. Communications; because even as primitive as our knowledge about how Gamma Ray Lasers work, modulating them is trivial.

    2. Re:Actally we should be talking x-ray lasers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most x-ray lasers aren't atomic line transitions, because it is impractical to build one much beyond 10 eV (which doesn't really qualify as x-ray by most definitions) and even then the power is low at high difficulty. Free-electron lasers on the other hand are much simpler to build. They just involve sending high energy electrons through an undulator, a setup where the magnetic field oscillates across the length and causes the electrons to shape synchronously and emit EM radiation. Then it is just a matter of getting enough current of electrons at whatever energy of interest you want. There has already been a lot of work into high efficiency setups that recycle the electrons coming out of the undulator, as the US Navy had some interest in putting a FEL on a boat as a missile defense weapon. For an extremely large setup, SLAC has been spending most of its time running as a FEL as a very bright x-ray source up to 10 keV.

    3. Re:Actally we should be talking x-ray lasers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and causes the electrons to shape synchronously and emit EM radiation

      Should be shake synchronously, not "shape",

  6. Some patent troll in Utah might extort Nasa. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like Marconi some crazy consortium will claim a first patent on the technology. And the patent office will confirm it and the courts will order Nasa to stop using Xradio until they pony up and pay the royalties to the patent holders. I would not at all be surprised if Tesla did not already patent a device to do something similar and someone smart in a Utah or West Texas patent extortion firm has not already cloned an old Tesla idea.

    All that being said I wonder why someone has not tried that part of the spectrum in the Seti effort. We might just get some more WOW signals and a bit of a shock or at least start seeing cows in space and the like. Who knows we might see re-runs of I Love Lucy bounced back at us from some alien civilization in digital Xray broadcast format just to piss us off for not thinking about using super short high energy waves for digital communications sooner.

  7. So.... radio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it's a radio in the X-ray band?

  8. XCOM? by spiritplumber · · Score: 1

    Will this help us against Ethereal mind control, Sectoid cheese, and Muton rushes? Great chips ahoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  9. Re:The invention of the com-laser from 1986 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    > [x-ray satellites] also usable as a weapon when you are really desperate

    Exactly that! The hungarian jewish physicist-psychopath Ede Teller, the real-life Dr. Strangelove, tried to get Reagan's USA to build battle satellites, which would have used the explosion of a nuclear bomb onboard to generate focused x-ray laser (gamma-laser) beams coming out of about one hundred pre-positioned iron rods, used to shoot down that many hypothetical incoming soviet ICBMs in a single salvo. The USA even cancelled its membership in the UN treaty against placing nuclear weapons in space to let the idea progress. Except the project collapsed after spending about 5 billion dollars on it, because the basic theory and tech was both faulty, as far as publicly known.

    Anyhow, the Kremlin wasn't amused and started the development of supressed trajectory quasi-ballistic missiles, which never leave the x-ray protection offered by atmosphere. They also started to carve out a defunct volcano in the russian Far East, in order to plant a giant nuclear shaped charge inside, which can cause planetoclasm by breaking through the tectonic plate up to 100km deep, more or less like a man-made dinosaur asteroid impact. You may call it the ultimate "dead hand" insurance and the system is supposed to go live in 2020, after a long hiatus of work during the Yeltsin era and early Putin years. The official story is the site serves as a backup communications hub bunker and leadership survival shelter for the Russian Federation.

  10. Re:Rf = Light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What _are_ they teaching in Schools these days...:
    There is this thing called the Particle-Wave Duality. In this context, every Wave has a Photon, and every Photon has a Wave. It is much more practical with current Tech to deal with low Energy Waves, or high Energy Photons, but they are both still part of the same Duality. It is entirely possible, and sometimes downright irritating, to deal with Waves that Accompany higher Energy, (A couple of EV.), Photons, the bane of Digital Cameras, which leads to all sorts of aberrations.
    But Photons that accompany low Energy Waves are much more difficult to detect, (In the region of 1 micro Electron Volt), and usually involves a fair amount of Liquid Helium. By the time that we get up to X-Rays, Photons are all that we count, because ~1nM wavelengths are pretty damn small. (But still important for such things as X-Ray Lithography.)

    A Chart like this used to grace every Schoolroom Wall:
    http://what-when-how.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/tmp26dc54.png

    Radio is Photons is Light. So are Infrared, Ultraviolet, X- and Gamma Rays. As one old jokester once said: Fiat Lux.

  11. Have they tried gravity? by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 1

    The first message received was, "Don't let me leave, Murph!" in a douchey whine.

  12. Fuck that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm more interested in the long range UPSKIRT potential on those alien hotties!

  13. Re:Rf = Light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't understand that photons are photons regardless of their wavelength and frequency then you do not belong here.

  14. Not the fastest by RghtHndSd · · Score: 1

    Nothing travels faster than bad news.

  15. more info by teridon · · Score: 2

    This system has been in development for quite a while.  This info sheet is from 2007:  https://gsfctechnology.gsfc.nasa.gov/TechSheets/XRAY_Goddard_Final.pdf

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    1. Re:more info by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      The owner of gsfctechnology.gsfc.nasa.gov has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.

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    2. Re:more info by teridon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they are using a NASA ]mostly] internal CA. If you want to trust the U.S. Treasury and NASA CAs: http://pki.treas.gov/crl_certs...

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  16. XCOM : UFO Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obligatory XCOM Game reference: https://www.gog.com/game/xcom_ufo_defense

    I'm willing to bet a lot of monies that at least some of the NASA personnel involved with this plan have played the XCOM games and were overjoyed at being able to find a way to work "XCOM" into something official.

    1. Re:XCOM : UFO Defense by Joviex · · Score: 1

      I'm willing to bet a lot of monies that at least some of the NASA personnel involved with this plan have played the XCOM games and were overjoyed at being able to find a way to work "XCOM" into something official.

      So, they expect to be sued by 2K?

  17. No, but it will help ... by Laxator2 · · Score: 1

    ... against Ortnoks and Sheevars. Floaters and Snakemen are obsolete.

  18. Re:The invention of the com-laser from 1986 by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Reading these Apocalyptic Total Destruction stories is amusing. The theory that winning the overarching conflict by destroying them, all the innocents, and yourself is, of course, entirely self-defeating. But to claim that even dictatorial Communists would actually build a weapon to destroy Earth stretches credulity.

    Oh, wait. This is just a micro plot for a sad, miserable short story, truncated from the original planned novel when you ran out of words.

    Dammit, I fell for that again. I hate that.

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  19. Re:Rf = Light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is this thing called the Particle-Wave Duality.

    The definition of the electromagnetic spectrum has nothing to do with wave particle duality. You can quite clearly define the whole thing in terms of wavelength, and where the divisions are between different types of light mostly have to do with traditional production methods and what is visible to humans.

    every Wave has a Photon

    This is false. There are plenty of kinds of waves that do not involve photons, everything from gravity and sound waves to electrons. Not even every light wave has a photon, as many would be composed of a vast number of photons. You say that every wave is quantized, as things like sound waves have phonons for their finite minimum size.

  20. submarines by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    Xrays do somewhat travel through water, maybe this could be used to communicate with a shallow submerged submarine too.

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  21. Re:Rf = Light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to have missed "...In this context, ..." I tried to make the explanation as simple as possible, but if you want to drag Phonons or whatever in as well, go right ahead. But remember the original question: "When did radio frequncies become light?"
    A long, but pretty good explanation of the history and various aspects of Duality can be found right here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave–particle_duality

    I stand by my explanation. Light, (Photons), has both Particle-like and Wave-like properties. At the simplest level, a single Photon has these same properties. The Chart that I provided a link to, (You did check it out?), is pretty complete in explaining the Photon Energy levels, Wavelengths, and Frequencies for the Electromagnetic Spectrum, of which Visible Light is just a small part. But it is all Light.

    "... You say that every wave is quantized..."
    I made no such claim, although there are circumstances where this is true. Stop putting words in my mouth; you're scaring off the Rubes.

  22. Tell me more about your X-ray antennas. by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

    Moreover, X-rays can penetrate obstacles that impede radio communication.

    As well as the ones that facilitate it -- otherwise known as reflectors and collimators. As long as X-rays are so very difficult to collimate, they're going to be hard to use for long-range communication. And as long as it's difficult to make emitters or detectors with very high bandwidth, they aren't going to be worth a lot for any high-speed communication.

    Plus there's the whole radiation hazard thing. Not so relevant in space, but kind of a big deal here on DNA-factory-infested Earth.

    1. Re: Tell me more about your X-ray antennas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X-rays lenses exist. These include concentric cylinders like used in some x-ray telescopes, to lab ones that take advantage of the slight negative index of refraction from when x-rays pass through materials.

    2. Re:Tell me more about your X-ray antennas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.. There are xray lenses of a sort, but they're big and heavy (long in the axis parallel to propagation because you can't bend the photons very much. detector technology has a way to go.

      There have been people proposing XCOMM and XNAV for at least 20 years, and as soon as someone makes a detector with an aperture of 50cm that has overall efficiency over 50% and weighs less than, say, 10 kg, why, deep space comm folks will fall over themselves to use it.

      Of course, optical comm has been technologically feasible for quite a while, but strangely, nobody has put up the billions of dollars to build the optical equivalent of the Deep Space Network (DSN). So they do experiments with the Hale telescope on Palomar when they get time slots (they don't do much star photography during the day) to demonstrate feasibility - yowza, bright LEDs on cube-sats, etc.

      But remember that DSN cost more than $1B, in the 1960s. And that was to bring back video of American Galactic Warriors with "The Right Stuff" walking on the moon to show those godless commies who the boss was, and who really controlled the high ground.

      Who's going to pay for that "fat pipe from deep space"? Ask the scientists with instruments on Mars rovers or Europa orbiters or similar... How much of their instrument budget would they give up to get more data back to earth? The answer will be "we'll live with what we have"

    3. Re:Tell me more about your X-ray antennas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I guess the Chandra X-Ray telescope doesn't exist, it does not have X-Ray lenses, and the Chandra images we've been getting for years are all fakes?

      http://chandra.harvard.edu/
      https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1110/1110.4020.pdf
      http://www.cis.rit.edu/class/simg217/07-Xray-image-chain.pdf
      https://www.nasa.gov/chandra/multimedia/chandra-15th-anniversary-tycho.html

      Oh, ah, right.

  23. Re:Radio is light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all electromagnetic radiation, and it all consists of photons each carrying an energy proportional to its frequency. You must detect a certain minimum number of photons per bit of data for the message not to get smashed by Poisson noise, so moving up the spectrum from radio waves, it takes orders of magnitude more energy to send the same amount of data. The recent announcement that Pluto emits X-rays was based on a total of *seven* detected photons!

    Thus I seriously doubt that any intelligence in the universe uses anything except radio waves for interstellar communication.

  24. X-Ray Navigation by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

    OK, I get the part about X-ray comms. What I don't get is the need to deploy an X-ray beacon for the satellites to navigate. After all, there are already natural sources that can be used. The technology for using these sources is credible enough that real money and real hardware is being developed for it.

  25. Re:The invention of the com-laser from 1986 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    man-made dinosaur asteroid impact. You may call it the ultimate "dead hand"

    The Soviets did raise a ruckus of the x-ray laser idea, but they never did think the way necessary for creation of a suicide weapon. After all, they were the sane ones in the world, not the crazy Americans who were led by an actor.

  26. hypersonic spyplanes by BatesMethod · · Score: 1

    In addition to communicating with spacecraft during atmospheric re-entry, X-ray transmissions could also be useful for communicating with high speed aircraft such as the (rumored) Aurora hypersonic spyplane or SR-72 hypersonic UAV.

  27. Re: Rf = Light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am quite aware of the history and actual mechanics of partivlr-wave duality, certainly having spent enough time in grad school and postdoc research with actual quantum mechanics experiments. I still say it is completely orthogonal to the idea of an electromagnetic spectrum. You act like mentioning phonons is gratuitous, although it was only in response to a simplification you made while I think mention of even just photons was gratuitous to the original issue.

    The part you quoted at the end should have had the word "can" or "may" in the original word in, as in, "You may say all waves are quantized." But yhe statement that a wave is a photon is wrong even in the narrowest context of the original post.