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Chrome 55 Now Blocks Flash, Uses HTML5 By Default (bleepingcomputer.com)

Posted by EditorDavid on from the Flash-in-the-can dept.

An anonymous reader quotes Bleeping Computer: Chrome 55, released earlier this week, now blocks all Adobe Flash content by default, according to a plan set in motion by Google engineers earlier this year... While some of the initial implementation details of the "HTML5 By Default" plan changed since then, Flash has been phased out in favor of HTML5 as the primary technology for playing multimedia content in Chrome.

Google's plan is to turn off Flash and use HTML5 for all sites. Where HTML5 isn't supported, Chrome will prompt users and ask them if they want to run Flash to view multimedia content. The user's option would be remembered for subsequent visits, but there's also an option in the browser's settings section, under Settings > Content Settings > Flash > Manage Exceptions, where users can add the websites they want to allow Flash to run by default.
Exceptions will also be made automatically for your more frequently-visited sites -- which, for many users, will include YouTube. And Chrome will continue to ship with Flash -- as well as an option to re-enable Flash on all sites.

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  1. Re:If only by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Weird, then I must not be reading this.

  2. So does it still let you "always click to flash"? by tlambert · · Score: 2

    So does it still let you "always click to flash"?

    It'd be a real pain in the ass if, by watching one video, I have to always allow Facebook (major example) to run flash content, rather than just the specific flash content I authorize.

    Also: where's the "click to run HTML5 video", please?

  3. About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As young help desk technician eight years ago, Flash was almost as worst as the intranet sites that required IE6 to work. Every month a new version of Flash comes out to break the intranet sites for users because the program auto updates on its own and the intranet team was always two weeks behind on updating Flash on the web servers. Every month I got tickets to remote into systems to rollback to the previous version of Flash to get the intranet sites working again.

    As a computer security technician today, Silverlight is becoming the new Flash with problematic installs that refuse to update properly. Every month the Nessus scan spits out a list of systems that I remote into to run a Microsoft Fix-It program to uninstall the older version and reinstall the baseline version.

    1. Re:About time... by ledow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Education:

      If it's not HTML5, they are required to push out an iPad app because there will be something that doesn't work on Safari. Android / Chromebook apps will never appear or will have to wait for the HTML5 version, and it will never be properly navigable across all devices with bare HTML5 (people keep telling me this, I've yet to see a decent demonstration that doesn't just send you to two different places). Hell, these people still use Quicktime...

      Banking:

      Our business banking partner insisted on using IE until this year. When they then realised it was going to die and they had to upgrade for Windows 10? We now HAVE to use Firefox ESR editions with a specific .NET Framework, an ActiveX-like control and exceptions for scripting etc. on their domains (their software tries to auto-add them on install to IE too!). If anything, we've taken two steps back in terms of security there, and still have a browser that is NOT our default browser just for banking.

      Video streaming:

      They all started off saying they'll support HTML5, but some of the HTML5 versions are literally play and stop and that's it. A load of sites break when you try to just play a movie, and how do I stop it auto-playing? Oh, there's a plugin/extension/js for that.

      We need to get off our arses and just say "Fuck off. Plain HTML5 and nothing else or we don't visit". I still run across pages that want Java and all kinds of junk.

      Relying on a plugin of any kind, even Flash, (plugins have to be native code) is inherently not cross-platform and is a security risk. You have no idea if that plugin's breaking open your SSL sessions and handling other data from sites insecurely.

      Trouble is, the places that MATTER (i.e. schools which are teaching the children how to use a computer, and banks which are holding your money to ransom if you're anybody) don't give a shit. We're still fighting banks on "but this is more secure" when they make us run closed code in a closed plugin tied into closed sites on a particular browser that's not your normal browser and is - by definition - outdated. It shouldn't be.

      The quicker Chrome blocks all this shit, and Microsoft Edge and Safari follow, the quicker people will have to fix it to make things work as before.

      Don't let the banks pull the "You must use IE shit" any more. Literally just switch them off and go "We warned you, now you'll need to follow best practice as we've said for decades".

    2. Re:About time... by terjeber · · Score: 1

      Based on the way you wrote your comment, proper English wasn't a requirement for your "uni" degree

      I always find it funny when retards like this comments on the use of the English language, thinking it is the only language used in the world. Why is it that retarded Americans actually think the "World Series" encompasses any significant portion of the world?

    3. Re:About time... by ledow · · Score: 1

      Barclays Business Internet Banking.

      The bank that's been running since 1690, forms a major part of UK and multinational banking, is listed on London and New York stock exchanges, and "was the most powerful transnational corporation in terms of ownership and thus corporate control over global financial stability and market competition".

      We're not talking about your online personal account. We're talking about business accounts that require multiple smartcard authorisation to sign off on millions of pounds a year of salaries.

      And yes, they STILL require IE / Firefox ESR, .NET Framework, and Gemalto ActiveX controls.

    4. Re:About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I always find it funny when retards like this comments on the use of the English language, thinking it is the only language used in the world.

      According to Wikipedia, English is the largest world language.

      One of the most widely spoken and fastest spreading world languages today is English, which has over 900 million first- and second-language users worldwide. It is estimated to have as many as 600 million second-language speakers, including anywhere between 200 and 350 million learners/users in China alone, at varying levels of study and proficiency, though this number is difficult to accurately assess. English is also increasingly becoming the dominant language of scientific research and papers worldwide, having even outpaced national languages in Western European countries, including France, where a recent study showed that English has massively displaced French as the language of scientific research in "hard" as well as in applied sciences.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_language

      It didn't help that the OP wrote like a Millennial speaking out of his ass.

      Why is it that retarded Americans actually think the "World Series" encompasses any significant portion of the world?

      Other than the U.S., Canada and Japan, how many other countries have baseball as a sport? Sorry, cricket doesn't count.

    5. Re:About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      If you can't determine the meaning of words or phrases within the framework of the context in which they're used you're the one with issues and nobody gives a shit about your arbitrary mere opinion, get it?

      I read and understood what the OP wrote just fine — after I read it two or three times. For someone proclaiming to have a university education, I find it disturbing that person would write like a Millennial speaking out of his ass.

    6. Re:About time... by terjeber · · Score: 1

      According to Wikipedia, English is the largest world language

      So, that makes it likely that people are able to use it with the skills of native English speakers? How's your Spanish and Mandarin?

      Remember, it is better to sit quietly in the corner having everybody think you're a moron than to open your mouth and remove any lingering doubt.

    7. Re:About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      How's your Spanish and Mandarin?

      I used to speak Restaurant Spanish when I worked at The Old Spaghetti Factory as a spaghetti cook and backup cook for three years. As for Mandarin, I like steamed rice and double orange chicken at Panda Express.

      Remember, it is better to sit quietly in the corner having everybody think you're a moron than to open your mouth and remove any lingering doubt.

      Unfortunately, I look like a moron and there is no lingering doubt about that. I've learned over the years to play into that perception by letting people think I'm a moron and let them set their expectations for me at an incredibly low level. Whenever I excel at something that should be impossible, they are shocked and awe at my abilities.

    8. Re:About time... by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      When I was in college, there was one summer that I didn't have any useful classes to take. So I decided to get a job. This was actually hella hard, given that it was summer in a college town. I ended up working at a temp agency. The temp agency was clearly used to dealing with really uneducated folks- the competency test was literally fitting blocks into holes. A monkey could literally do it, a dog could not. So that was what they were selecting for- someone on the plus side of the monkey-dog IQ axis. Eventually, they sent me to the college, where I was helping the medical folks sort and move a bunch of documents. The intro to this was from a seriously tired-of-this-shit receptionist. She talked to me in small words and slowly, which I just assumed meant she was not very bright. She mentioned that the previous three people from the temp agency hadn't worked out, and I should just do the best I could, and ask if I had questions.

      As I was in the corner sorting and hauling books and folders, I overheard her on the phone- clearly normal or better intelligence. That was when I figured it out- she really assumed I was profoundly stupid, just because I came from the same agencies as the previous workers. I had no polite way to bring this up, so I just kept my head down and did my manual labor plus basic literacy job, until a doctor came in bitching about his internet not working. He kept pulling random people from around the office to help him, but they couldn't. Eventually, I mentioned I could probably help (and solved it immediately), and once the office figured out I was just some student trying to make a few bucks during the summer, the way they interacted with me changed COMPLETELY. No more tiny words and slow-speak, no more avoidance as if I was just barely not a beast. It was pretty fucking enlightening though.

    9. Re:About time... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      JFYI:
      There is no uni degree in Germany that requires english or proper english, why should it? Oh ... I forgot: of course you can study "english" and then you probably might need "proper english" before you get accepted to the course of studies.

      On the other hand, what do you find wrong in his sentence? We learn in all the time: "in english commas are more or less optional". And besides for the lack of commata/commas I don't see anything wrong (albeit I would try to word it better ;D )

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    10. Re:About time... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I would take Wikipedia articles with a grain of salt.

      And regarding your quotes: second language ... probably you missed that.

      If I was you, I would be more concerned about people that can not "speak" (as in writing, but not necessary in "spelling") their first language properly :D

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    11. Re:About time... by antdude · · Score: 1

      Another problem is the old version like old softwares on old devices. :(

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      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    12. Re:About time... by Waccoon · · Score: 2

      Trouble is, the places that MATTER (i.e. schools which are teaching the children how to use a computer, and banks which are holding your money to ransom if you're anybody) don't give a shit. We're still fighting banks on "but this is more secure" when they make us run closed code in a closed plugin tied into closed sites on a particular browser that's not your normal browser and is - by definition - outdated. It shouldn't be.

      No offense, but the biggest problem I've run into over the last year are web sites that use every damn proprietary feature of Chrome and try to itemize workarounds for every other browser. My problem isn't coming across web sites that still push Flash and Java, it's sites that are largely broken in Firefox and IE/Edge, and totally broken in Pale Moon.

      Now that Chrome and the Blink engine are the most popular web technologies on the planet, I'm finding it hard to find sites that work in any other web browser that uses HTML5, no matter how up-to-date it is. Web developers need to get their heads out of their asses and make things that actually just work, not support only the absolute latest version of Chrome that was just released tomorrow.

      The call for "standards compliance" from the early 2010's isn't fashionable anymore. Nobody gives a shit about HTML5 -- it's stupid, broken, non-standard DOM all the way down.

    13. Re:About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      There is no uni degree in Germany that requires english or proper english, why should it?

      Out of the three or four languages Europeans are supposed to learn English isn't one of them? No wonder the Brits left the European Union in a huff. ;)

      On the other hand, what do you find wrong in his sentence?

      How it was written contradicts the statement that the OP graduated from a university. He came across as being a graduate of American public schools, which is what a university education is supposed to fix. If you run the text through a readability measurement, it comes out at the fourth grade level. I never went to high school, I got an A.A. degree in General Education, transferred and got kicked out of the university in my junior year, and I later went back to get an A.S. in Computer Programming with a 4.0 GPA. Despite not graduating from high school or the university, I write at the 11th grade level. The average American reads at the seventh grade level.

    14. Re:About time... by PJ6 · · Score: 1

      As young help desk technician eight years ago, Flash was almost as worst as the intranet sites that required IE6 to work. Every month a new version of Flash comes out to break the intranet sites for users because the program auto updates on its own and the intranet team was always two weeks behind on updating Flash on the web servers. Every month I got tickets to remote into systems to rollback to the previous version of Flash to get the intranet sites working again.

      As a computer security technician today, Silverlight is becoming the new Flash with problematic installs that refuse to update properly. Every month the Nessus scan spits out a list of systems that I remote into to run a Microsoft Fix-It program to uninstall the older version and reinstall the baseline version.

      That's what you get for using the web for applications that should have been thick clients.

    15. Re:About time... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      That's what you get for using the web for applications that should have been thick clients.

      My job is to take care of whatever rolls down the hill, deal with it or shovel it somewhere else. Applications is above my pay grade.

    16. Re:About time... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Out of the three or four languages Europeans are supposed to learn English isn't one of them?
      Yes, we learn minimum 2 languages. Or more precisely: get fed up with them, as teaching languages seems to be something no one knows how to do it properly.
      However, that makes them not a requirement to enter university, nor to gain a diploma in an university.
      Otherwise foreign students e.g. had no chance at all.
      And who cares if you e.g. study biology or electric engineering what your grades where in school in english or french? They don't matter for writing your thesis, and they don't matter for getting into the studies.

      write at the 11th grade level. The average American reads at the seventh grade level. That does not tell me anything ;D
      I read what ever I want to read. Only high level math is beyond me (my current level). No idea on what level I write, neither german nor english. And I doubt "Xth grade" makes much sense ... but well, in which country do education systems make sense ..

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  4. Still broken on Windows 10 though by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

    Many many users are reporting that Chrome doesnt show the on screen keyboard when focus is given to inputs, you have to manually open the keyboard. Been this way for a dozen or so major versions.

  5. Re:Thanks, Donald! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Society is once again better off thanks to Trump! This would never have happened under Clinton's watch.

    Never mind that neither of them are president.

  6. Re:If only by Luthair · · Score: 1

    Maybe you should cleanup all the malware.

  7. Re:What? No flash photography? by acroyear · · Score: 3, Funny

    raise your ISO.

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    -- Joe
  8. Re: If only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sounds like winblows. Runs fine elsewhere.

  9. Re: Too many websites use Flash by rml1997 · · Score: 1

    Or as the old adage goes, you get what you pay for?

  10. Re:Thanks, Donald! by NotInHere · · Score: 1

    Not yet. Trump will very likely be inaugurated (he's got the best protection and the best life insurance in the world), and for Clinton, I'm sure she is ready to run for president a third time in 4 years.

  11. Re:If only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good citizen, your Google tracking software is working!

  12. Re:So does it still let you "always click to flash by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    I use the Disable HTML5 Autoplay extension. It allows for whitelisting.

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  13. Re:Great by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 2

    a) there are still hundreds of sites out there that use Flash and have no way to change this easily (homestarrunner.com, for example)

    Yeah, this sucks. Most weather radar sites (including a lot of NOAA products) require Flash. It's getting a little better, but very slowly.

    b) there are things that you can't even DO with HTML5, but are readily available in flash. Notably, filesystem access.

    Thank goodness for that. A widget in a web browser has no business autonomously accessing my filesystem. If I want to intentionally upload or download a file, every browser can do that without a plugin.

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    "BSD: Free as in speech. Linux: Free as in beer. Windows 10: Free as in herpes." --Man On Pink Corner in #52607549.
  14. Re:Too many websites use Flash by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    It's too bad Adobe can't write secure software.

    Sure they can. It's just not worth the expense. Besides, the OS is just as much to blame. If it ran in read only memory, this wouldn't be such a big issue.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  15. For me, sites use Flash only for ads / crap by raymorris · · Score: 1

    For years I've not had Flash in my default browser, and maybe once or twice per year I come across I site that has Flash content I want to see. In those cases I launch my other browser.

    I have no doubt that many of the sites you visit have *something* in flash, but what? Ads? A stupid animated splash page that just wastes your time?

    Until early 2010, Flash was needed for Youtube, which was the last site I used it, or saw many people using it. Once Youtube had html5 as an option, six years ago, I've only really seen Flash used for crap I'd prefer to avoid anyway, such as ads. I can think of one exception - a Cisco tool I'm forced to learn for certification.

  16. Re:Thanks, Donald! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Hillary! lost the Democrat nomination in 2008 despite having the entire process rigged for her.

    Not quite. She favored the states that voted in primaries while Obama favored the states that voted in caucuses. By the time someone crunched the numbers in the Hillary campaign, Obama had enough delegates to lock up the nomination. It was Hillary who nominated Obama by acclamation from the convention floor. Something that no Republican would have done for Trump.

    Hillary! almost lost the Democrat nomination - to someone who wasn't a member of the Democratic Party! - despite having the entire process rigged in her favor.

    Not quite. Super delegates has been a standard feature for Democratic conventions since 1969. After Super Tuesday, Bernie Sanders had to win every primary election with 60% of the vote in order to win the nomination and he failed to get the votes. If super delegates were removed from the equations, Bernie still wouldn't have enough delegates to lock up the nomination.

    THEN Hillary! lost the general election to a blowhard clownish demagogue despite having the entire media world covering up her negatives and all but openly pulling for her.

    Not quite. The media gave Trump $2B in free advertising while focusing on and sometimes making up stuff about Hillary's email server.

    I'm sure if Hillary! wants to keep running, the Republicans will be happy.

    The Clintons have been good business for Republican fundraisers over the last 30 years. They will sorely be missed for years to come.

  17. Re:So does it still let you "always click to flash by Talla · · Score: 4, Informative

    Also: where's the "click to run HTML5 video", please?

    Even more importantly, where's the click to start downloading HTML5 video? Most HTML5 video can be stopped from playing automatically but it will still start downloading, and drain the quota on a metered connection in no time.

  18. Doesn't seem to work by MikeDataLink · · Score: 2

    I have Chrome 55 installed, but flash is still working in all the tests I do without prompting me. Even going to isflashinstalled.com works.

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    1. Re:Doesn't seem to work by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There is a new option in the menu under content for "Flash". It appears to default to "Detect and run important Flash (recommended)."

      I've yet to see something blocked. However you can change this to "Block sites running flash" and then it prompts right click to run flash on all the content. However Isflashinstalled.com will still say yes.

  19. Re:Great by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    Yes, flash is a piece of turd. But it is a WORKING piece of turd, and HTML5 won't change that.

    Unfortunately, it's also a DANGEROUS turd. I understand that many sites will continue to require Flash in the near future. These will continue to work, just with an extra click. We're not talking about the complete elimination of Flash here. But it should be treated as the dangerous malware vector that it is, and only activate when someone really wants to activate it. I agree that functionality-wise, Flash has a lot going for it. But it's just not worth the price we paid (and continue to pay) security-wise.

    Adobe had Flash, Microsoft had ActiveX, and Java had its plugin. All three were major security disasters, and we're still feeling the negative effects of all of them even today. I welcome anything that sweeps those technologies toward the dustbin of internet history.

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    Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
  20. Re:Thanks, Donald! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Clinton, I'm sure she is ready to run for president a third time in 4 years.

    Believe it or not, they're now grooming Chelsea to be the next political Clinton operative.

  21. Re:Thanks, Donald! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Yes, the fact that we have a free press* helped Trump tremendously. If it had been Hillary vs. Clinton in a country like Zimbabwe or China, Hillary might be the President-elect right now.

    (*major elements of said free press were heavily biased toward Hillary, but that's one of the costs of freedom)

  22. HTML5 and YouTube by jonwil · · Score: 1

    I would have thought that Google would detect browsers that do HTML5 video and make YouTube serve HTML5 video to such browsers by default and only enable Flash if the user has specifically gone into the YouTube settings and disabled HTML5 for some reason.

    Or are there still things on YouTube that aren't served as HTML5 even to the latest version of Chrome?

    1. Re:HTML5 and YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google has a spotty record with delivering inferior experiences to other browsers, including YouTube. They don't seem willing to use feature-detection as they should, often relying on flimsy server-side UA sniffing. When combined with their opportunistic pushing of pre-standardized tech into Chrome like QUIC, and their lack of responsiveness to complaints or questions about cross-browser issues with their services, you have a situation that's difficult to discern from intentional sabotage, since Chrome (of course) gets the best experience by default. A far cry from the early Google Maps crew.

    2. Re:HTML5 and YouTube by jonwil · · Score: 1

      In this case I was referring to the comment in the summary that "Exceptions will also be made automatically for your more frequently-visited sites -- which, for many users, will include YouTube" and the fact that YouTube should be detecting that someone is running a new enough Chrome version to handle HTML5 video and never serve it Flash video unless you explicitly ask for it (i.e. there shouldn't be a need for an automatic exception for YouTube in Chrome 55 unless the user has explicitly told YouTube that they dont want HTML5 video)

  23. Re:Thanks, Donald! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    The Clintons have been good business for Republican fundraisers over the last 30 years. They will sorely be missed for years to come.

    There are doubtless printing presses running even today printing lifesize portraits of Chelsea Clinton. They'll be attached to sticks so that they are easy for Republicans to wave when necessary.

  24. Re:Great by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Pogo.com and many other casual gaming sites are strong users of Flash. Probably entities like those are the reason Google doesn't wholesale abandon Flash on their browsers.

    I doubt if many Slashdot regulars do much gaming at pogo.com but I bet at least a handful of us know family members who are regulars there.

  25. Re:If only by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Silly goose, I don't care.

  26. Flash games by edxwelch · · Score: 1

    I imagine companies like Armor games aren't going to be too happy about this, as their chief revenue source is being blocked by default.

  27. This is not in the stable build! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Not working for me either. However something has changed. Under settings it still is listed to "detect and run important Flash" which is also the "recommended" settings. These settings were not part of Chrome 54 (just checked on my laptop, then updated and then they appeared).

    It doesn't seem to be blocking flash for me. Maybe all Flash is important right now...

  28. Ignore my title by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    I checked an assumption mid posting and forgot to change my title.

  29. Re:get your head out of your ass by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    if you're retarded enough to think everyone on the internet is going to proofread and use proper grammar and composition on a freaking forum then you're an idiot and need a reality check.

    OP wrote like a Millennial talking out of his ass. For someone claiming to be a university graduate, I found that contradiction hard to believe.

    [...] thinking you're superior by pointing out spelling/grammar/composition mistakes you fucking grammar nazi.

    I've been on Slashdot for 17 years, I don't think I've ever been a grammar nazi. Do I get a virtual gold star for that?

  30. Re:Thanks, Donald! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Believe it or not, they're now grooming Chelsea to be the next political Clinton operative.

    If she's follows her mother's footsteps by running for Senate, serving time as a Senator (her mother served for eight years), and then running for president, I don't have problem with that. I just don't see her running for president in 2020 or 2024 with the Clinton baggage train following her. Undoubtedly, one of the Bush kids will have to run against her.

  31. So far HTML 5 sucks ass by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    It's unreliable. With a lot of vids if you try to skip past the HEEEY KIDS, IT'S ME STEEVEEEOO AND IN THIS VIDEO IM GONNA SHOW YOU THE ABSULUTE BESTEST WAY TO DO THAT THING YOU WANT TO DO THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO DO SOON AS I CONVINCE YOU HOW KEWL I AM. I mean, most vids have 1-2 minutes you can fast forward past before they finally get to it. With HTML 5 it often goes into an infinite loading screen until you restart the vid.

    I also have trouble with pausing a vid, doing something, then restarting it. Maybe 1/4 of the time it goes into the infinite loading bug.

    Finally, don't even think of closing your laptop halfway through a vid. You'll have to restart the vid to continue watching after opening the laptop.

  32. Re:If only by Berkyjay · · Score: 1

    Or most likely a mind lacking in irrational fear.

  33. Re:Great by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    That's ridiculous. Not everyone buys new hardware every year.

  34. Re:hw accelerated video by knorthern+knight · · Score: 2

    > On top of that you get auto video downloading and that wonderful audio
    > API you can't turn off and is mainly used to fingerprint your browser.

    A Pale Moon user here. My about:config includes...

    media.audio_data.enabled; false
    media.autoplay.allowscripted; false
    media.autoplay.enabled; false

    No problem.

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  35. Re: by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

    Flash Player peasant using YouTube Flash Player extension to play stutter-free video in his netbook (me) is worried....

  36. Re:So does it still let you "always click to flash by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

    So does it still let you "always click to flash"?

    It'd be a real pain in the ass if, by watching one video, I have to always allow Facebook (major example) to run flash content, rather than just the specific flash content I authorize.

    Also: where's the "click to run HTML5 video", please?

    I watch CNN, BBC, ABC and YOUTUBE on my cellphone and laptop. BBC is still using flash, and some of CNN's videos are also in flash. And of course tubeyou still has mulitude of videos in backwards flash. Has anyone written a converter?

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  37. Re:Great by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    I find it hard enough to play 720p h264 in a web browser. Decent at best but not always smooth. Youtube 1080p, forget it.
    Sure, go use a Core 2 Duo E8500, under Windows, with Google Chrome, and nothing else running in the browser.
    That may be fine but I thought we cared about non-Windows too.

  38. Steve Jobs was right by trevc · · Score: 1

    Steve Jobs was heavily criticized back in 2010 for his stance on Flash. He was right. Why did everybody have such an issue with him then?