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UK Health Secretary Urges Social Media Companies To Block Cyberbullying And Underaged Sexting (betanews.com)

Mark Wilson shares his article on Beta News: Health secretary Jeremy Hunt has made calls for technology companies and social media to do more to tackle the problems of cyberbullying, online intimidation and -- rather specifically -- under-18-year-olds texting sexually explicit images. Of course, he doesn't have the slightest idea about how to go about tackling these problems, but he has expressed his concern so that, in conjunction with passing this buck to tech companies, should be enough, right?
Hunt apparently believes there's already a technology which can identify sexually explicit photos, and that social media networks should now also develop algorithms to identify and block cyberbullying, an idea the Guardian called "sadly laughable."

"Is the blanket censorship of non-approved communications for all under 18s -- something that goes far further than even the Great Firewall of China -- really the kind of thing a government minister should be able to idly suggest in 2016?"

71 comments

  1. Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is "underaged sexting" a health issue? It may be a moral issue, but that seems to be outside the authority of the Health Secretary.

    1. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Because if you have sex when your age is 15 years 364 days 23 hours and 59 seconds or younger, then your mind is permanently damaged and you'll probably go on a columbine style shooting spree. If you wait a second later, you'll be fine though.

    2. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The magical number 16 is for a 16 year old having sex with an ADULT!!! Because the Adult might be so exploiting if the other part is only 15 years 364 days 23 hours and 59 seconds old.

      The age limit in most countries in Europe is 14, not 16. 14 year olds can have as much sex as they want as long as the partner is below 18 or 16 (depending on country) but not with an adult (who actually might know some nice tricks ;D )

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    3. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not in the UK you won't. We don't have more guns than population. Not everywhere is as gun mad as the USA. Some counties have moved on from the need to carry weapons.

    4. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it some time, you're going to begging for guns to defend yourselves from each other and your corrupt government.

    5. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by allo · · Score: 1

      I am with you at the thing, why sex or in this case even just nudy (maybe sexy) pictures should be a problem.

      But ridiculing the age limit with "... and X seconds" isn't that useful. If you decide to set some limit somewhere, you will always have some time span around the limit, where you can say "hey, she was just one day younger / she was just one day older" and ridicule it. Still you set the limit somewhere and if you set it lower, you have such a time span again. So get over it, a limit involves a certain uncertainity time around it, where it seems silly.
      Your alternatives would be creepy stuff like a maturity test before sex or similiar. Then better a hard age limit and then its fine from one second to the next.

    6. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's why knife crime is so bad there they want to ban pointy knives.

    7. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      It sounds like the UK Health Secretary needs some Artificial Intelligence, since the good old biological kind is sadly lacking.

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    8. Re: Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK you have moved away from the desire to be free as well. How do you like RIPA?

    9. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point is that there should be no limit.

    10. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some counties have moved on from the need to carry weapons

      Gee, how come the voice my brain automatically assigned to your comment is of a flamingly homosexual man?

      People in the UK will not be so happy with their anti-gun lifestyle when your government goes full-on Authoritarian Dictatorship on them; they're not that far from that as of today. UK citizens won't have the weapons to fight for their freedom with, other than kitchen knives and clubs, against the government forces with military weapons. Sad for you, UK citizens, pretty soon you'll be living about as well as the average Chinese or Russian citizen. Guess there's always suicide.

    11. Re: Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a fag ?

      I guess you must be. Projection much ?

    12. Re: Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you think he's a cigarette?

    13. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The magical number 16 is for a 16 year old having sex with an ADULT!!!

      You are confusing sex with sexting . This thread is about sexting, and "underage sexting" is defined as individuals under the age of 18 voluntarily sharing nude photos of themselves. This may be a crime in the UK, but I cannot see how it would be considered a health issue. How does sharing nude photos affect one's health?

    14. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Well, it can affect their mental health if they send a nude pic to their boy/girlfriend, and that person decides to post it to facebook or twitter or forward it to a bunch of their friends at school...

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    15. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, how come the voice my brain automatically assigned to your comment is of a flamingly homosexual man?

      I'm suspecting possibly a mental disorder on your part? Bad upbringing?

    16. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... (maybe sexy) pictures should be a problem.

      Really, the fappening was only a few months ago.

      It would be nice if women were entitled to privacy on the internet but that isn't available. The problem isn't one-on-one communication, it's the image being uploaded to the public domain. That is copyright piracy at a minimum and due to child protection laws, pedophilia, even when she is old enough to fuck. Like the age of consent laws themselves, their purpose is preventing schoolgirls being abused by adults.

      ... decide to set some limit somewhere ...

      Alas, the government needs an easy-to-use metric, which is a problem with most criminal law. But as just mentioned, the point is controlling the adults, so a 15 year-old girl fucking a 17 year-old will probably be 'under the radar'. Europe also doesn't have the attitude that horny schoolgirls are automatically victims, the police don't get points for interfering in the same way a US prosecutor does. That means, unless the man owed a duty of care (eg. teacher, coach, priest), the courts aren't going to automatically convict on this crime because "it's the law", as US courts do.

    17. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it can affect their mental health if they send a nude pic to their boy/girlfriend, and that person decides to post it to facebook or twitter or forward it to a bunch of their friends at school...

      But that same scenario could apply to any person who sexts. Why is underage sexting a problem worth addressing, but adult sexting is not? Furthermore, the problem of being embarassed by peers who share one's secrets is not limited to nude photos. It can affect a child's mental health if his friends post any sort of embarassing photo on facebook (for example, a photo of the child wearing a stupid hat). The strange thing is, we usually don't blame the child for wearing the stupid hat. Instead, we blame the peer for mockingly posting the hat photo on facebook.

      I suspect that the real problem with underage sexting is that the Health Secretary believes it to be immoral, and he is trying to find excuses to legislate his morality.

    18. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how is having guns working out for the USA and government corruption? Surely with all those guns, government corruption must be non-existent there, right?

    19. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Why is underage sexting a problem worth addressing, but adult sexting is not?

      Disclaimer: I make no comment on the morality of sexting generally.
      To answer your question, it's the same reason we make the distinction between consensual and underage sex: the line between parental and self-responsibility has to be drawn somewhere.

      The strange thing is, we usually don't blame the child for wearing the stupid hat. Instead, we blame the peer for mockingly posting the hat photo on facebook.

      Either you've never been in a school playground or that's a bald-faced lie. That's to say nothing of what happens when an adolescent gets access to social media. If you think adults are any better then I'm amazed you've managed to last as long as you have.

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    20. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Bullshit, these laws have never been about controlling the adults. They are about controlling the children.

    21. Re:Sexting is a health issue? by allo · · Score: 1

      > It would be nice if women were entitled to privacy on the internet but that isn't available. The problem isn't one-on-one communication, it's the image being uploaded to the public domain.

      The laws are not against uploading the images into public domain (i.e. to facebook services like whatsapp, which reserve the right to use it in any way they like), but against making and distributing them, if you WANT to.

      > That is copyright piracy
      So, it's privacy, if i upload an image of me?

      > Like the age of consent laws themselves, their purpose is preventing schoolgirls being abused by adults.
      Which isn't quite reasonable to have two different limits ... where the actual act is allowed before sending sexual images. So what may harm you more (assuming, that consentual acts can be seen as harm afterwards)?
      - Sending a nude image in a sexual pose
      - Having your first time

      Fuck the image. Okay, there is some nude image and possible some aroused sexual organs. And the worst case is, it ends up on some internet site. And does anyone care? The internet is full of nude people's images. You mentioned the fappening. And, does somebody still care? Some nude celebrities ... the good porn you find online is way better than some home taken photos of some celebrities.

      > Europe also doesn't have the attitude that horny schoolgirls are automatically victims
      Indeed, but it's still not justified to allow people to fuck and disallow them to take pictures of it.

      > That means, unless the man owed a duty of care (eg. teacher, coach, priest), the courts aren't going to automatically convict on this crime
      It's a bit more complicated. The point is, that the duty of care means an even higher age, possibly not at all, if you don't want to risk it. For teachers it's a good advise, to stay off the students, even the 18+ ones. And the lower age limit of 14 (germany) still prohibits incentives as money, but other goods and non-material incentives are disallowed as well. This means, that some situations may be dangerous, just because it could be seen as arranged to be an incentive.

      The laws here are sometimes weird, but in sex cases they are usually interpreted in a reasonable way. For pornographic pictures (and since some time: sexual pose images) there are some court cases which are very strict.

  2. Fuck that shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitches

  3. Stupid laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the laws need fixing, not the kids.

    Teenagers have sex. Some of them a lot of it. Turns out people like to take pictures. Shock, horror.

    Stupid.

  4. Deregulated regulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is a pattern I have come to call "deregulated regulation". Pondering a law and ultimately passing it is hard. Enforcing is too. There are such annoying nitties as "free speech", checks, balances, yadda, yadda.

    Easier to lean (if needed, robustly) on some Internet Powerful, and let them the dirty work (which they are often happy to do, their occasional show of resistance notwithstanding). Because this allows them to silently increase user control -- the best way these days to protect their silos.

  5. I have a better solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grow a pair. The world is not a nice place. People are not the angels you think they are. The sooner you understand that, the better.

  6. Just send them to Hunt by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

    Just set up a system that sends all pics to Hunt's phone for approval and if approval is not received or denied within a reasonable time, like 15 seconds, automatically forwards them. I'm sure he'll approve.

  7. Nanny state or police state ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flawed idea as you can be married at 16 in the UK so having sex is legal at this age. So you have to wait till 18 to be able to see fully nude pictures which is crazy when you can legally see a real nude women at 16. Sigh.

    1. Re:Nanny state or police state ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least we can legall get drunk at 18. 21 is just retarded.

      See, every country has crazy laws. Deal with it.

  8. the trouble with trolls. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you ban a troll, they can just create a new account. If you shadowban a troll, it will take some time and then they will figure it out and make a new account. What we need is a "verseban" for trolls. This would be a progression of a shadowban but instead of being shunned it would appear that people are responding to them when in fact they are conversing with AI chatbots posing as those users. With the latest AI, this would be significantly more difficult to detect, especially if the replies were modeled on things users had written previously. In effect the troll would be banished to their own little universe where they cannot hurt anyone but also don't know they have been caged.

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    1. Re:the trouble with trolls. by allo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Technology never solved social problems.

      And here the workaround to your idea: Troll with two accounts. Do you still see the second one? Oh, it must be "versebanned".
      Ideas like shadow banning seem clever to their inventors, but actually they are a silly game. Just convery your message and say "You're banned. That's it". Controlling if somebody returns needs to be done anyway, and hoping nobody notices your fancy new type of ban is just hopeless. Like the forums with the "crash browser of banned users" option in the good ol' times.

    2. Re:the trouble with trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This would be a progression of a shadowban but instead of being shunned it would appear that people are responding to them when in fact they are conversing with AI chatbots posing as those users.

      Given the quality of the modern internet, I think the whole thing may have already been replaced with something like that.

    3. Re:the trouble with trolls. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you suggest sending them trolls to facebook/twitter? I thought they were already gathered there.

    4. Re:the trouble with trolls. by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

      Just go ahead and take it all the way. In these modern times, people don't want to hear anything that doesn't just echo their beliefs. So, just have these chatbots automatically create "friends" for all users that echo their beliefs, never show a real person on anyone's page, and everyone can be happy.

    5. Re:the trouble with trolls. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Technology never solved social problems.

      Who said anything about solving it?

      And here the workaround to your idea: Troll with two accounts. Do you still see the second one? Oh, it must be "versebanned".

      Accounts originating from the same IP address would be kept in the same verse.

      Ideas like shadow banning seem clever to their inventors, but actually they are a silly game.

      They are clever but you seem to think that they are intended to be a cure-all which isn't the point at all! The point isn't to keep them off the site forever, it's to delay them as long as possible.

      Just convery your message and say "You're banned. That's it".

      The immediate response is that they will create a new account.

      Controlling if somebody returns needs to be done anyway, and hoping nobody notices your fancy new type of ban is just hopeless. Like the forums with the "crash browser of banned users" option in the good ol' times.

      The point is to keep them busy trolling in an environment that doesn't harm others and possibly frustrate them enough times that they don't want continue.

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    6. Re:the trouble with trolls. by allo · · Score: 1

      > Accounts originating from the same IP address would be kept in the same verse.
      If it's that easy, then just ban.
      Its not like i cannot just have my "am i shadowbanned" account on my phone ...

      > it's to delay them as long as possible.
      Which is bullshit. You* do not ban people, you do not ban opinions, you ban behaviour. People trolling, people flaming and people posting hate (that are three different things!) may be unwelcome (and this should be stated before) and that's a behaviour. Banning an account won't stop the next. No matter how clever your special kind of ban seems to be.

      > The immediate response is that they will create a new account.
      Of course. As for every other ban type. You may stop some idiots, but idiots are no problem, everybody knows them when he sees them. The clever ones may be the annoying ones.

      > The point is to keep them busy trolling in an environment that doesn't harm others and possibly frustrate them enough times that they don't want continue.
      Which you try to solve technically, but where you won't succeed.

      * reasonable people.

    7. Re:the trouble with trolls. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      > Accounts originating from the same IP address would be kept in the same verse.
      If it's that easy, then just ban.

      But it takes time to evaluate if someone should be banned. Therefore, it is far better to keep people banned as long as possible.

      Its not like i cannot just have my "am i shadowbanned" account on my phone ...

      Again, it's not intended to be a cure-all.

      > it's to delay them as long as possible.
      Which is bullshit. You* do not ban people, you do not ban opinions, you ban behaviour.

      It is unreasonable to expect a forum can be read and fully managed by the people hosting it all the while not becoming frustrated with malicious users. The only thing that could manage that is a highly sophisticated AI. The alternative to this is to ban malicious posters.

      People trolling, people flaming and people posting hate (that are three different things!) may be unwelcome (and this should be stated before) and that's a behaviour. Banning an account won't stop the next. No matter how clever your special kind of ban seems to be.

      So when somebody commits a crime, do tell them, "don't break the law" and move on? No, there need to be repercussions like removing them from society, which then becomes a deterrent.

      > The point is to keep them busy in an environment that doesn't harm others and possibly frustrate them enough times that they don't want continue.
      Which you try to solve technically, but where you won't succeed.

      The point is not to solve the issue of malicious posters, it's to keep them at bay for as long as possible. By banning them you have already succeeded and the longer they are removed from the forum, the more successful the ban. However, claiming that you cannot frustrate them is non-sense because everyone gets frustrated eventually.

      You may be thinking about the matter in an idealistic manner which is unrealistic. Malicious posting would exist even in an ideal society because it's a form of entertainment. This is a problem with homo sapiens and when we finally evolve to the point where it's no longer an issue then we will no longer be homo sapiens. In the mean time, we can only ban people and the longer the ban lasts, the better it is for everyone else.

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  9. Brexit? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    In most european countries adolescents have the right to have sex with 14. Sending a picture of your self is not even close to that ...

    So good luck with that proposal ...

    Ah, BREXit ... I forgot about hat.

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    1. Re:Brexit? by allo · · Score: 1

      Nope ... its more like "you may have sex, but do not send pictures of it to anyone or they/you will get into trouble".
      Silly as it is, different european countries have such laws.

  10. Dear politicians by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you plan to propose a law concerning the internet and telecommunication:

    1) Find out how the internet and telecommunication infrastructure works.
    2) Ponder how to enforce the law.
    3) Ponder who gets to set the required rules and regulations to enforce the law.
    4) Propose it.

    Jumping straight to 4, as you usually do, leads to ridicule and only accomplishes that you're showing off your ignorance to a more and more computer- and internet-savvy population. In other words: Don't do it if you value your career.

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    1. Re:Dear politicians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Jumping to 4 is not a problem for politicians. The general public is equally ignorant, and probably has more sympathy for the politician than scorn (if the general population ever even notices the articles pointing out the holes in the politicians knowledge). And it helps gain name recognition for the politician, which is somewhat more important for his/her career.

    2. Re:Dear politicians by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If he's being shot down left and right by everyone from the "established" media as well as bloggers, and ridiculed on Twitter and Facebook, they'll at best become the next Cameron, who had an SI unit named after himself: 1 Cameron being the minimum distance between two blunders.

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    3. Re:Dear politicians by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1
      The question is -- can you possibly imagine HOW such policies could be enforced? I mean, just read TFS:

      [banning] under-18-year-olds texting sexually explicit images. Of course, he doesn't have the slightest idea about how to go about tackling these problems

      I can just see tomorrow's news story:

      HEALTH SECRETARY ANNOUNCES NEW PARTNERSHIPS TO CURB SEXTING AMONG TEENS

      Jeremy Hunt has reported that he has not only found partnerships to reduce teen sexting -- he claims he can do it without costing the UK government anything. In an interview, Mr. Hunt said, "I was shocked at how easy this was! A U.S.-based organization contacted me within a few hours of my announcement saying they'd are 'highly experienced' with such materials and were willing to screen most of the images for no cost whatsoever. The organization is called NAMBLA, though I don't recall exactly what the acronym stands for; they said it very quickly in our conversation. I queried them about privacy concerns, and they said, I quote: 'We will treat these images as if they were a prized possession.' I was also concerned about security, and they said, 'We have a lot of experience handling such materials and keeping them secret.' "

      Unfortunately, Mr. Hunt said the group will only handle male images for free, due to unspecified issues in their screening apparatus. But an open call on the Health Secretary's website for "Experienced people willing to screen images and search for nude teenage girls" has already received hundreds of applications from volunteer organizations.

    4. Re:Dear politicians by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The Tories should have enough qualified members to take care of the female pics. I'm certain they'll even do it pro boner, I mean pro bono.

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    5. Re: Dear politicians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes have to do with this?

    6. Re:Dear politicians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Tories should have enough qualified members to take care of the female pigs.

      fixed it for you

    7. Re:Dear politicians by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Damn autocorrection. Thanks, AC.

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  11. What should he do instead? by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    If you accept the premise that there's a problem* then isn't this exactly the right thing to do?

    He's saying there's a problem, and asking the people in the best position to do something about it to figure out a way. And don't pretend there's nothing they can do; Google image search is pretty damn good at identifying image content.

    * If you want to deny the premise this doesn't apply, so go reply to someone else.

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    1. Re:What should he do instead? by west · · Score: 1

      > If you accept the premise that there's a problem* then isn't this exactly the right thing to do?

      You are correct *if* there are no associated trade-offs.

      But there are *always* trade-offs.

      The only interesting question is whether the benefits (fewer children doing things that in some fraction of the cases have significant long-term consequences) is worth the costs (creation of infrastructure to real-time censor images, etc.)

      It's not all that different from what asking what costs are acceptable for reducing the level of teenage drinking and driving, another activity that some children are prone to that can also occasionally have disastrous consequences.

  12. The minister for magic strikes again by vittal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately (especially for those of us in the UK), Mr.Hunt has a number of views that appear to be at odds with reality. e.g. https://www.newscientist.com/a...

    In the UK, if you speak to many doctors about the minister, prepare yourself for a very, *very* long stream of invective.

    1. Re:The minister for magic strikes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah Hunt

      s/H/C

      Problem solved!!!

    2. Re:The minister for magic strikes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, the only reason that numpty is still about is the patronage of a certain Mr. Murdoch

    3. Re:The minister for magic strikes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason he's still about is in fact because he knows where the bodies are buried. He got his currrent job (for which is is ludicrously underqualified) by protecting Cameron's arse by feeding one of his own subordinates to the wolves when they were all colluding with Rupert Murdoch over handing over BSKYB to NewsCorp
      https://www.theguardian.com/po...

    4. Re:The minister for magic strikes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have yourselves to blame for either not voting or for not putting in place a system that allows you to vote on such government officials.

  13. Time for surveilance again by allo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Last time we had it because of terrorism, this time it's because of the children. Next time terrorism again, but then censorship instead of surveilance.

  14. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cousin has preyed upon dozens of girls between 13 and 16 via Facebook. He sin his mid twenties and has somehow managed to beat several statutory rape charges. I think a minor change to the EULA would be fair in such cases, notifying parents when possible and law enforcement when not. I hacked his six character password once and closed his account with this as the reasoning, saying he could not control himself. I don't think he can.

    1. Re: Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there is grass on the field, play ball. Or, if it's muddy down there, down slide head first.

  15. Legislate under 18-year olds have no sex drive! by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Because that will make it true, right?

    This is the worst ever suppression of human nature and if this is not sexually motivated abuse of underage youth, I do not know what is. This person is obviously a dangerous pervert.

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  16. Down the slippery slope we go! by Vermonter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First the UK essentially banned pornography. Now it wants to ban being "mean" (which, being a subjective term, I'm sure will never ever be used to nefarious purposes). I can't wait to see what gets banned next in the name of protecting the children... maybe the political opposition will be labeled as "hate speech" and also be banned. Or maybe any religion that purports any morality that the government doesn't like will be labeled as "hate speech". I'm sure all this will lead to a British utopia in 10 years. I mean, sure, this path has always led to fascism in the past, but this time I'm sure it will somehow end up differently.

    1. Re:Down the slippery slope we go! by colinwb · · Score: 1

      Would you deign to give us reasons why you think the UK has "essentially banned pornography"? I don't know what your tastes in pornography are, but if you spent a few days in the UK you might be - ahem - "pleasantly surprised".

    2. Re:Down the slippery slope we go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't internet porn now censored by default in the UK, so that you need to 'opt in' if you want access?

    3. Re:Down the slippery slope we go! by AHuxley · · Score: 0

      The next step will be the full gov empowerment of volunteer SJW per site to track, report and help remove ISP accounts.
      The provider account and user's premises will be blocked from the internet, voice services only. If the user registers with any new UK provider, the block stays.
      Rent a new premises, change device the block follows the person.
      A UK user still has the freedom to comment on politics but an empowered SJW will always report them.

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    4. Re: Down the slippery slope we go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are correct. Additionally the UK is now seeking to decide what porn we can view once we've opted in.

  17. Oh please by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Jeremy Hunt sounds like the kind of clown who would advocate for putting a chip in the brain of newborns that would turn off sexual desire until they were X years old.

    I was having sex at 14 with girls who were my age as well as some who were older (in some cases much older). I knew exactly what I was doing and wasn't being taken advantage of, as Hunt seems to believe is the case. If I'd had a camera I'd have probably taken pictures. So what?

    In short, not everyone who's having sex below the age of 16 or 18, even with an older partner, is being raped.

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  18. Social media companies urge UK government to ... by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Social media companies urge UK government to issue national ID cards to everyone over the age of 4.

    Social media companies also urge the UK government to implement a back end system so that, given the card, they can verify underage status or not in a government database.

    Social media companies further urge that the UK government have plans in place, should the ID card be stolen, for issuing a replacement ID with a different number, and repudiation of the stolen ID, such that it's no longer considered valid ID, by maintaining a revocation status bit in the back end verification database.

    Social media companies finally state that the plan can not be implemented without these systems being put in place prior to deployments, and if they are unwilling to get the necessary infrastructure built so that it's even possible to comply, the UK government can go stuff themselves.

  19. uknistan by ruir · · Score: 1

    Do I have to read such drivel, and see to many people eating hook, bait and the whole fishing pole? This is just BS talk to justify censorship...politicians think we are all damn morons.

    1. Re:uknistan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as you keep electing them, you are.

  20. there is technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is technology to detect such photos - it's called 'pattern recognition', please see related patents, etc.

  21. Cyberbullying != underage sexting by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    Cyberbullying and online intimidation are a form of aggression. There is a victim and a culprit.
    How is it related to teenagers doing sexual things? There are good reasons for making underage sexting illegal (the pictures may fall in the wrong hands) but it is an entirely different problem.
    It is like saying : here, we are going to tackle the problem of burglary, so let's investigate the porn industry.

  22. Eggplants by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    I'd love to see how they're going to accomplish that. People are brilliant in coming up with ways to circumvent things. Hell, kids apparently use the eggplant emoji as a surrogate penis.

    So yeah... good luck with that. I wonder how many millions they're going to piss away *this time* only to find their efforts useless.