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BMW Traps A Car Thief By Remotely Locking His Doors (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader quotes CNET: Seattle police caught an alleged car thief by enlisting the help of car maker BMW to both track and then remotely lock the luckless criminal in the very car he was trying to steal... Turns out if you're inside a stolen car, it's perhaps not the best time to take a nap. "A car thief awoke from a sound slumber Sunday morning (November 27) to find he had been remotely locked inside a stolen BMW, just as Seattle police officers were bearing down on him," wrote Jonah Spangenthal-Lee [deputy director of communications for the Seattle Police Department].

The suspect found a key fob mistakenly left inside the BMW by a friend who'd borrowed the car from the owner and the alleged crime was on. But technology triumphed. When the owner, who'd just gotten married a day earlier, discovered the theft, the police contacted BMW corporate, who tracked the car to Seattle's Ravenna neighborhood.

The 38-year-old inside was then booked for both auto theft and possession of methamphetamine.

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  1. Happy ending, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good for the guy who got his car back, and good that they put the would be thief away, but still, can't say I much like the idea that our corporate overlords can track your car (and therefore movements) and remotely lock down your vehicle.

  2. My first thought... by flargleblarg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's possible to lock someone inside a car — which is a really terrible feature, by the way — then how long before some car's AI flips out and drives off a bridge — into a river — with passengers inside...and locks the doors shut?

  3. See??? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This incredibly rare set of circumstances is exactly why we should happily and unquestioningly give our freedoms and privacy away to corporations and to the government!

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  4. I call bullshit. by Heebie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pulling the door opener lever on the door of a car overrides the locking mechanisms. This is a fire-safety requirement. The guy was probably just still asleep when the cops found the car.

    1. Re:I call bullshit. by Hachima · · Score: 4, Informative

      The default behavior on BMW cars is that you have to pull the door handle lever twice to open it. The first pull unlocks thw door and it and the second pull opens the door. I've had passengers think they were locked in because while they pulled the handle once they couldn't open the door and I have to tell them to pull it again. I would be surprised if the guy was woken up by the SOS system with a CSR talking to him and he then pulls the handle once and thinks he is locked in since the door doesn't open. Then the CSR messes with the drugged up guy making him think he is locked in if there is any truth to the article and what was being said to him..

    2. Re: I call bullshit. by Hachima · · Score: 5, Informative

      Page 38 of the manual states "Do not lock the vehicle from the outside with people inside the car, as the vehicle cannot be unlocked from inside without special knowledge." So if the car was remotely locked this would be the case. The owner of the car could have initiated the outside lock with the BMW Remote Control App. You have to press the lock button from inside the car to allow someone from the inside the car to unlock it.

    3. Re:I call bullshit. by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article is light on details as to how the emergency unlock got overridden - maybe the guy was just high and was tricked, but maybe BMW's double-pull safety/security feature gave them a window of opportunity that let them do this. If BMW were repeatedly sending the central lock signal to the car at a faster rate than the recently woken (and potentially also doped up) thief could do the double-pull, then perhaps that would be enough to keep the doors locked. We also have no idea from TFA how long they kept the doors locked for; it might only have been a few minutes, or possibly even less than that. It's entirely possible it was less than the time that the recently woken thief would have taken to gather hits wits and try something else like, say, opening/breaking a window and climbing out.

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  5. Dangerous by stooo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People died while being locked in cars.
    Two examples are : car fallen in the water, and people sleeping in a car while owner and friend locked it. The owner came back after a long hot weeken, his friend was dead inside.
    Double lock is a dangerous feature.

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    1. Re: Dangerous by Wootery · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope. Slashdotters are generally nervous when it comes to corporate power of this sort. Brand isn't the deciding factor.

    2. Re:Dangerous by locofungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Door lock doesn't make any difference if the car is in water. You cannot open the door against the water pressure, locked or not.

      That's why, if you're in a car that falls into water it's essential that you open the windows before the electrics short out

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    3. Re: Dangerous by Drethon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      who are you going to trust. have to trust some.

      I'll trust the company that leaves the decisions in my hands, rather than taking them away from me.

    4. Re:Dangerous by mjwx · · Score: 5, Informative

      Suppose it depends on the water depth. I know I'd rather not wait for the cabin to flood if I were sinking in a lake. You might be pretty deep before you could get the door open and try to swim to the surface.

      You more or less have to. The pressure difference means that you wont be able to open the doors. Its the same phenomena that prevents you from opening aeroplane doors mid flight.

      I believe that both Top Gear and Mythbusters did a segment on it.

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  6. Oldsmobile invented this by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Their R&D center was located on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. After a tragic accident as a result of Soviet hacking, Oldsmobile closed the center in 1969.

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  7. Escape is easy by LaLLi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have never seen a "modern" car that doesn't have headrests. Those headrests can be detached and the metal spikes used to break the passenger windows.

  8. "Feature" has already killed someone by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The "feature" has already caused at least one death.

    Last week, a burglar pried apart some security bars at my business and squeezed in. He was able to make off with some stolen goods because once inside, he was easily able to open the locked exit door. Fire codes require that all building exit doors accessible to the public be openable from the inside even when locked. These laws were made after repeated fires with huge death tolls exacerbated by locked exit doors. That's what the bar on the door you press when leaving most restaurants and stores does. Even when the door is locked, pushing the bar from the inside will open the door. That way if a fire breaks out, you're not trapped inside because the only person who has the key was the idiot who started the fire and is dead.

    Same thing with refrigerators - both the old stand-up units which latched shut, and walk-in refrigerator/freezers used in restaurants. Too many people (especially kids playing) were dying after being trapped inside, that laws were passed requiring a mechanism which allows someone inside to open the latch on the outside.

    I don't see why cars should be any different. Yes easy egress makes thievery easier. But preventing that is just not worth the potential loss of life. Any car designer who thinks this is a good idea should be locked inside one of their cars on a sunny day until they admit it's a terrible idea. Heck, after dozens of kids dying each year after being locked in the trunk of a car while playing, we finally passed a law mandating a release mechanism inside the trunk. And some idiot car designer decides it would be a good idea to make it impossible for someone inside the passenger compartment to exit at will? Shame on BMW for trying to spin this to the press as a "helpful" feature.

  9. What danger ? by DrYak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In an emergency, you're supposed to be able to break a car's side windows.

    I supposed the "sun-cooked" guy had passed out (alcohol ? heat shock, while he was asleep ?) before realising he should get out of the car.

    I'm more surprised that the thief didn't try to break out of the car. But, on the other hand the lock has happened while he was napping inside the car, so he might not have realised what had happened and did not release he should run away as fast as possible before the police arrives.

    I would be much more worried about the remote disabling of the car :
    - was some form of owner's access required in order to do the disabling ? (i.e.: the owner's second fob is needed in order to validate the instruction to lock and ignore the stolen fob ?)
    - or does any sufficiently high executive at BMW have the power to shut down any random car ?

    Also : is the remote access limited to very simple instruction (locking doors and revoking fobs - which as mentioned above shouldn't be dangerous except under special circumstances) or can the car be remotely shut down while it is driving ?

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  10. Re:so what? by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see why this is a story on Slashdot

    Then you must not be thinking of the children. Or terrorists. Oh, and don't forget about children and terrorists.

    This story sounds like nothing on the surface, right up until you realize that BMW can track their cars remotely and execute remote operations on them (this was just a teaser of their remote capabilities most likely).

    From hacking that system to legal "justifications" sans warrants, this is a privacy and security nightmare.

    But hey, carry on...nothing to see here according to the ignorant masses who have been trained that way. Simply because most "gadgets" these days are a privacy and security nightmare doesn't dismiss that fact, or the consequences.

    I for one was rather baffled over the keyfob left in the car. My 8-year old car would not automatically lock the doors if it sensed the keyfob inside, so I'm assuming the car was left unlocked with the keyfob. Fail all around.