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First Dinosaur Tail Found Preserved in Amber (nationalgeographic.com)

The tail of a beautiful, feathered dinosaur has been found perfectly preserved in amber from Myanmar. It is a huge breakthrough that could help open a new window on the biology of a group that dominated Earth for more than 160 million years. From a report on the National Geographic: The semitranslucent mid-Cretaceous amber sample, roughly the size and shape of a dried apricot, captures one of the earliest moments of differentiation between the feathers of birds of flight and the feathers of dinosaurs. Inside the lump of resin is a 1.4-inch appendage covered in delicate feathers, described as chestnut brown with a pale or white underside. CT scans and microscopic analysis of the sample revealed eight vertebrae from the middle or end of a long, thin tail that may have been originally made up of more than 25 vertebrae. NPR has a story on how this amber was found. An excerpt from it reads: In 2015, Lida Xing was visiting a market in northern Myanmar when a salesman brought out a piece of amber about the size of a pink rubber eraser. Inside, he could see a couple of ancient ants and a fuzzy brown tuft that the salesman said was a plant. As soon as Xing saw it, he knew it wasn't a plant. It was the delicate, feathered tail of a tiny dinosaur.

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  1. False alarm. by Snufu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just a dead parrot.

    1. Re:False alarm. by satcomjimmy · · Score: 2

      Just a dead parrot.

      It's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords

    2. Re:False alarm. by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!!
      THIS IS AN EX - PARROT!

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  2. Question by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know amber is fossilized tree resin, but at this point is it possible to somehow dissolve the amber without destroying what's inside it?

    It would be interesting if it could be done so we could see the tail and feathers in real light without the amber being in between.

    Also, from the picture, there are bits and pieces of vegetation not to mention at least one ant inside the specimen which could be recovered.

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    1. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      AFAIK you don't want to mess with solvents when it comes to amber. The stuff's origin is resinous could theoretically be attacked with something like turpentine or a petroleum solvent. However the amber is hard; you'd be better off dealing with it like paleontologists approach dinosaur bones in rock.

      Ultimately though it's probably all a bad idea. Amber has proven itself to be an ideal preservation mechanism, lasting tens or hundreds of millions of years. Once the specimen is released from the amber shell, it is vulnerable to oxidation, fungal attack, physical disturbance and all the rest. It's the sort of thing you could consider for a few of your less-valuable specimens. You don't want to ruin your best stuff on some quixotic quest to make it 'better'.

      It would be a bit like approaching a dinosaur skeleton, fully restored and in museum display quality. Then going to the keepers of the displays and saying, "I want to free the display specimens from the obscuring qualities of the glues and lacquers, the unnatural steel support structures holding it up, the clearly fake restored components, and the interference of the display cases and presentation stands!"

    2. Re:Question by danbuter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, two complete insects from millions of years ago is also a huge find. I'm sure the bug people are excited.

  3. tail feathers from bird by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    1. Re:tail feathers from bird by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      That's a wing tip, not a tail. And, incidentally, the same people are quoted in that article, also about amber from Myanmar.

      They are the first Cretaceous plumage samples to be studied that are not simply isolated feathers, according to study co-author Lida Xing of the China University of Geosciences.

      "The biggest problem we face with feathers in amber is that we usually get small fragments or isolated feathers, and we’re never quite sure who produced [them]," says co-author Ryan McKellar, curator of invertebrate palaeontology at Canada's Royal Saskatchewan Museum.

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  4. But... by s.petry · · Score: 2

    When does the damn park open?

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    1. Re:But... by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure the Jurssaic-era Park would be a disaster, dinosaurs squawking and dropping feathers and poop everywhere. Changing square miles of newspaper every few days is a hassle.

  5. Re:and found to be delicious by budgenator · · Score: 2

    Why do you think there's only a bit of tail left?

    It's like eating ramen, sometimes a little bit of noodle doesn't get slurped down and falls out! It's not likely dinosaur had good noodle slurping lips.

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  6. Jurassic Park That Much Closer? by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Either way, what a huge find, this is awesome! Colors, positioning, type of feathers. The feathers on this tail are more floppy like the display, not flight, feathers in modern birds, showing that sexual display likely came before flight in evolution. Colors probably were important early on some are saying.

    Bird-like dinosaurs just got a whole lot more real.

  7. Re:and found to be delicious by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

    Why do you think there's only a bit of tail left?

    It's like eating ramen, sometimes a little bit of noodle doesn't get slurped down and falls out! It's not likely dinosaur had good noodle slurping lips.

    Great, now I got an image of a T-Rex trying to use chopsticks stuck in my head... great...
    still, not as bad as a T-Rex trying to play chopsticks... dammit!

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  8. Beautiful transition specimen by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We are predisposed to think of feathers as equipment for flying. But seeing all those flying "dinosaurs" flitting about our yard is misleading.

    Reptilian scales are basically fish scales that have been greatly toughened to control moisture loss, allowing colonization of the land. But if you are a non-big dinosaur, thermal regulation is a significant problem. Feathers are basically scales that can be fluffed up or laid flat, to varying degrees, giving different insulating profiles, at the cost of possibly losing some moisture, which many dinosaurs could well afford.

    The feather more appropriate for flying could have been variants that were big for display and could lay very flat. But the original purpose was not flying. Flatness is possibly desirable for: reducing insulation when desired, streamlining the body if traveling quickly through brush, making big visual displays with relatively light equipment. However a small dinosaur that jumped around trees would find that large flattish feathers would give it added control over gliding descents, which is a fabulous thing if you are in a hurry.

  9. Re:Jurassic Park? by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Informative

    To be fair, when Chrighton wrote the original book 24-odd years ago, it was NOT 'science fiction' - it was definitely viable science based on the knowledge of the day. Amber was known to preserve soft-tissue, mosquitos and other blood-sucking insects from the dinosaur era had been found in amber and DNA had been recovered from amber.
    It seemed entirely within the realm of what would be possible in the next few years.

    In the intervening period a few things happened:
    1) It was found that the DNA from the original species in the amber decayed
    2) The human genome project was completed -and came with a massively shocking discovery: human DNA was far simpler than that of animals we'd genotyped years earlier like frogs (indeed - an order of magnitude fewer genes), which when we had to explain how that's possible turned our entire view of how DNA works upside down. The current view is that DNA is not a blueprint for a species, but a set of instructions for building a member of one - which makes assumptions. The more advanced the species is, the more assumptions can be made and the fewer conditionals have to be specified in the code. It's like stripping off the 'if arch == x86' part of your code because nobody uses a 32-bit computer anymore. Frogs have DNA to repond to various temperature ranges, humity levels etc. etc. basically to adjust the growth of the fetus to the ever-changing conditions in the pond all the time. Humans have a womb with very fixed conditions - so none of those are needed.
    3) With this realization - we actually genotyped the DNA recovered from amber - and it turned out to be from (much later) external contamination (mostly bacterial DNA).

    Those things shifted the Jurassic park scenario firmly into the science fiction region - but one should be fair to a brilliant writer with some pretty solid scientific credentials (in the field of medicine), when it was written it was in the realm of highly conceivable science fiction.
    He also updated his writing to reflect changes in the field. His last book "Timeline" also deals with genetics - and is set firmly in the areas of genetics where active research is happening right now, and dealing with the (very significant) social and legal questions that is raised by such ridiculous concepts as allowing companies to patent genes.

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