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Microsoft Says More People Are Switching From Macs To Surface Than Ever Before (theverge.com)

Microsoft has been targeting Mac users with its Surface commercials recently, and it appears they might be paying off. From a report on The Verge: The software giant claims that November was the "best month ever for consumer Surface sales," following a number of Black Friday deals on the Surface Pro 4. Microsoft still isn't providing sales numbers, but the company claims "more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before." Microsoft cites "the disappointment of the new MacBook Pro" and its trade-in program for MacBooks for tempting people to switch to Surface. Again, Microsoft refuses to provide numbers but vaguely claims "our trade-in program for MacBooks was our best ever."

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  1. Reminds me of the US version of The Office by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before. It reminds me of an episode of the US version of The Office. This may not be word for word what happened, but it's close enough to make my point.

    Pam: I doubled my sales from the previous month.
    Andy (sarcastically) : Yeah, to 2 from 1.
    Pam: Yep.

  2. Re:It's gone from one to two? by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, considering that the Surface is the first line of computers that Microsoft has ever produced, there are plenty of opportunities for record setting when measured against themselves.

    From everything I have seen, the Surface is a pretty neat device and I think it is getting better with every rev. Also the Surface Studio is looking like a real winner. Still... Any time I hear a company tout their own sales numbers, I roll my eyes.

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  3. Click-bait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No facts. Typical PR spin. Do we really need this kind of fluff trotted our repeatedly?

  4. Tell it to the NFL by doggo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ask Bill Belichick just how great Surface tablets are.

    1. Re:Tell it to the NFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Ask Bill Belichick just how great Surface tablets are.

      Yes, lets trust a football coach (i guess a coach. a player? who really cares?!) to give analysis on a piece of technology.

  5. Re: If true, it's because Macs are starting to suc by BitZtream · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you really comparing a MBP to a Chromebook like they serve the same roll? Really?

    Maybe you're just an idiot for paying 3k for a web browser but there is no Chromebook that can do anything for me that my MBP does, other than browse the web.

    If you don't do anything other than what a Chromebook does, then you're an idiot for buying anything OTHER than a Chromebook.

    Your post illustrates your shortcomings and in ability to buy the right product, not any of the flaws on the current MBP

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  6. Bullshit by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look around. Have you ever seen a Surface outside of the NFL sideline? And stop it with "well I have one and I love it, and so do all my friends". No you don't, you are a shill. The evidence is all around you. You don't see them on the streets, in coffeeshops, at places of business. They ship a lot to retailers for sure, but they don't sell any.

    1. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nuh uh! A guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy says his company have all switched to Surface Pros!

    2. Re:Bullshit by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure. Sure you did. Please send us the name of your local government and what school. Baloney.

    3. Re:Bullshit by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Please send us a picture of someone with one.

  7. Re:If true, it's because Macs are starting to suck by tripleevenfall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cliche as it is to say, Apple has lost its way post-Jobs.

  8. Re:If true, it's because Macs are starting to suck by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Surface Pro4's top CPU: i7-6650U

    Average CPU Mark: 4889
    Single Thread Rating: 1821

    My laptop's CPU: i7 3940XM

    Average CPU Mark: 9378
    Single Thread Rating: 2025

    My desktop's CPU: i7 4770K

    Average CPU Mark: 10121
    Single Thread Rating: 2255

    [Side by side benchmarks of the above]

    I have no idea what you're using your machine for but it certainly won't fit a lot of people's use cases.

  9. Re:It's gone from one to two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes a 500% increase in surface sales might be what apple sells in a few hours.

  10. So why are the new Macs selling so well? by HalAtWork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If everyone is so disappointed then why are the new Macbooks selling so well?

    I saw a story on slashdot a while ago claiming Mac users were switching to Linux as well.

    It just sounds like hardware manufacturers are trying to cause doubt to get more sales, because the reality doesn't seem to show that people are switching away from Macs given they are selling so fast.

  11. Re: If true, it's because Macs are starting to suc by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that affluent idiots (unless you really did mean effluent) arn't the only target market. A huge portion of the market goes to sysadmins, developers, etc, who use the machines for real work.

    Those people consider the latest MBP to be a ridiculous pile of horse shit. I mean, Apple's lineup has been becoming more and more of a joke as the years go on, but they seem to be now at the 'lets just take as much piss as we can". I use a mac, and know a number of others who use Macs, because they provide the best of both worlds between windows and linux for the work that we do. The slight price premium was worth it for the dramatically lower number of headaches and bullshit one had to deal with.

    Unfortunately, that's no longer the case. It's bad enough that the feature/price ratio has gotten significantly worse than it used to be. But now the products are just a fucking joke. Before they oh so generously cut the price on their dongles, you could easily spend $400-$500 in dongles just to reach parity with what you could do before. And of course, you are now required to carry around a dead octopus worth of cables to cover all the possible situations you may need.

    This was fine when it was just the Air. That's what the Air was designed for. But pulling this idiocy on a laptop that is specifically meant for professionals? Someone needs to dig up Steve Job's coffin and repeatedly hit Tim Cook with it.

  12. Re:If true, it's because Macs are starting to suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > You mean the same chance as the HD or SSD in your linux/bsd/windows machine?

    Yep, the same chance as the one in your Linux/BSD/Windows machine.

    But the drive in the Linux/BSD/Windows machine isn't hard soldered in. Replacing it doesn't involve buying a whole new computer.

  13. Re:It's gone from one to two? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Also the Surface Studio is looking like a real winner.

    Winner or loser it seems like an extreme niche product. More like a symbolic jab at Apple about who is the artist's choice than anything that'll show up on the bottom line in a big way.

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  14. Re:If true, it's because Macs are starting to suck by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uh huh. Sure. Please post a picture of you (or your "friend") actually using a Surface. No one would switch from a Mac to a Surface. They aren't even in the same space.

    Remember the last time MS tried this fake "Switcher" bs? Turned out they were using paid shills and Getty Images for their "real" people...

  15. Re: If true, it's because Macs are starting to suc by ilsaloving · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know what? You're a classic abusive boyfriend that can't handle being wrong, so you prefer to gaslight people instead of accepting that maybe a mistake was made somewhere.

    I've already left a more technical comment elsewhere so I'm not going to re-iterate, but I felt compelled to comment on this because I was just so awe-struck by your breathtaking arrogance.

    Just because I don't deep throat Apple's reality distortion field doesn't mean "I don't get it". I've been using Apple products for a long time now, for the simple fact that for me, they do the job better than any competing product. But circumstances have changed.

    But the raw facts are that Apple have all but abandoned their desktop lines, and have put out a laptop that is so myopically designed that they've all but given the middle finger to a significant portion of their customer base.

    If you just skim through the various comments, you will see countless pissed off people who are either sticking with what they have, or are preferentially buying previous gen hardware when they have to. I have colleagues who have been utter die-hard apple fans for years, and they are saying the same thing I am.

    If you really think that this many people "Don't get it", maybe you need to take a step back and ask yourself if maybe YOU'RE the one who "Doesn't get it".