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Twitter Cut Out of Trump Tech Meeting Over Failed Emoji Deal, Says Report (politico.com)

According to Politico, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was "bounced" from Wednesday's meeting between tech executives and President-elect Donald Trump in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hashtag #CrookedHillary. Trump's adviser Sean Spicer denied the report, saying "the conference table was only so big." Politico reports: Twitter was one of the few major U.S. tech companies not represented at Wednesday afternoon's Trump Tower meeting attended by, among others, Apple's Tim Cook, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg, and Tesla's Elon Musk -- an omission all the more striking because of Trump's heavy dependence on the Twitter platform. Trump's campaign also made a $5 million deal with Twitter before the election, in which the campaign committed "to spending a certain amount on advertising and in exchange receive discounts, perks, and custom solutions," the campaign's director of digital advertising and fund raising, Gary Coby, wrote in a Medium post last month. So the campaign objected when the company refused to allow the anti-Clinton emoji. Coby wrote that Dorsey personally intervened to block the Trump operation from deploying the emoji, which would have shown, in various renderings, small bags of money being given away or stolen. That emoji would have been offered to users as a replacement for the hashtag #CrookedHillary, a preferred Trump insult for his Democratic opponent. Spicer also objected to the company's refusal, telling the Washington Examiner in October that "while Twitter claims to be a venue that promotes the free exchange of ideas, it's clear that it's leadership's left wing ideology literally trumps that." POLITICO's source said Spicer, who's also the Republican National Committee spokesman, was the one who made the call to refuse an invitation to Dorsey or other Twitter executives to Wednesday's meeting.

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  1. Re:Boogyjman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those liberals keep complaining about the electoral college.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266035509162303492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266034630820507648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266034630820507648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    And claiming the election was rigged in polling places and the media.

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/787699930718695425?lang=en

    And questioning the legitimacy of the president.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/137559273394802690?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/203568571148800001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/207495823750205440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/207875027008368640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/207897542971752448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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  2. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, yes, I get it that anyone bad must be Hitler by a certain mindset, right the point where Saddam, who compared himself to another monster, Stalin, was still given that label.
    Despite that trend it's worth considering that when some people say Fascist they mean something other than Germans with skulls on their hats. Here's a well written bit on what to watch out for:
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

    Donald Trump looks like he may be going down that road some time soon and it's scaring the shit out of some people.

  3. Re:What facts do they base that on? by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't remember anyone saying she was in danger of immanent death, but Hillary did get chucked into a van by her staff and her health was reported as being just fine... until that very public collapse. The foreign press was far less kind when they made a little re-enactment. I haven't even heard the other ones, so feel free to link me to the Tweets.

    But yes, I'd be happy to have more people posting verifiable facts rather than ill-informed speculation, no matter who they are.

  4. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Between Trump and Clinton, Clinton is closer to fascism ideologically than Trump.

    It is abundantly clear that you don't know what fascism is. Maybe this will help.

    Fascism is perhaps too strong a word to describe Trump's ideology. But authoritarianism sure does seem to fit.

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  5. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes you are correct. It's frightening. Silence equals consent.

    Key thing for me was the instant flip on views towards russia by "conservatives".

    We have a huge block of pro-authoritarian voters. I think they want a "human god on earth" and it's literally "ukase rex" .. i.e. whatever he says is good by definition. So if he says to fire people in violation of federal law, it's good. If he says to kill people, it's good.

    But it's not good- it's actually 1938 germany damn scary...

    We studied WHY the "good " germans went along with hitler and it's the same thing. They wanted a strong leader and were willing to go along with anything he wanted as long as he was a strong leader. Many of Trumps supporters show the same reason for liking trump. He's strong. Not that he tells the truth. Not that he follows the law.

    http://www.christianpost.com/n...

    "In a recent column for Politico, MacWilliams reported that in December he did a national poll of 1,800 voters to explain the support for Trump.

    "Running a standard statistical analysis, I found that education, income, gender, age, ideology, and religiosity [b]had no significant bearing[/b] on a Republican voter's preferred candidate," wrote MacWilliams.

    "Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: [b]authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism,[/b] though the former was far more significant than the latter."

    Mark Leary, professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Duke University, told The Christian Post that traits which define authoritarian personality include "rigid adherence to traditional values; the tendency to condemn, reject, and punish people who violate those values; and having a submissive, uncritical attitude toward powerful authorities who support and defend one's values and views."
    [b]
    A Certain Set of Characteristics[/b]

    [b]Authoritarian Personality Theory came from a project to better understand how the Nazis came to power during the 1930s and were able to commit mass atrocity.[/b]

    Theodore Adorno et. al. published the first major work in 1950, titled The Authoritarian Personality, and championed the survey known as the California F-Scale, the letter f standing for Fascist.

    The F-Scale was a series of questions that determined how authoritarian a person's thinking was, with an interviewee answering how much they agreed or disagreed with certain value statements.

    According to one online version of the test*, statements posed to interviewees included, "Obedience and respect for authority are the most important virtues children should learn", "If people would talk less and work more, everybody would be better off", "Every person should have complete faith in some supernatural power whose decisions he obeys without question", and "An insult to our honor should always be punished."

    Thousands of peer-reviewed articles and studies on the Authoritarian Personality have been published over the past six decades.
    "

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  6. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by Ly4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Neither of your citations appear to even mention the 'emoluments clause' of the Constitution, which makes them, at best, incomplete ('worthless' is also a possible description).

    Try looking for something newer - there was very little reporting on the emoluments clause until after the election.

  7. Apple and Amazon are each 60X the size of Twitter by raymorris · · Score: 5, Informative

    Twitter is worth $13 billion. Amazon $372 billion, Apple $624 billion. President-elect Trump can spend that time talking to a company that employs 3,500 people and shrinking (Twitter), 116,000 (Apple), or 230,000 and growing (Amazon).

    If I were becoming president and I could spend a day talking with someone who hired 80,000 new people last year (plus 100,000 temps), I think I's focus on them for the day rather than Twitter, whose recent "major layoff" was 330 people or so. Amazon hired more people *last month* than Twitter has in it's entire history.

  8. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by Spamalope · · Score: 1, Informative

    and fascism is the corner of the resultant grid where statism meets capitalism, the worst of both worlds. Neither state socialism nor libertarian capitalism are its opposite; libertarian socialism is.

    Only 16 years from the end of the 20th century and you think the corner where statism meets capitalism is the worst? Really? Not where statism meets socialism?

    Do the deaths of little people not matter as long as the great leap forward is achieved? Do you think the statist socialist places weren't doing socialism hard enough, or will you make a 'no true Scottsman' argument and claim they weren't doing it right? It's just that every single time... every. time... every. single. time... it ends in rivers of blood. The useful idealists are liquidated the moment they object.

    So with more than 100 million dead between Mao's great leap forward and Stalin's war on the Kulaks and subsequent starvation of the Ukraine (Russia deliberately shipped food *out* during a famine) exactly how big does the death toll have to be? 5x the worst of fascism? 10x? Are you pining for your own Hundred Flowers campaign so you'll be free to achieve your vision afterwards? Have you 'seen the future, and it works!'? Did your primary education include Solzhenitsyn or the Hundred Flowers? The substantive answer is that it's damning of the political ideology that's in vogue, isn't it?

    Statism is a real world slippery slope. Psychological manipulation techniques for whole societies work, and are well known. Those two amplify each others power. Statism has to be stopped before it reaches critical mass, but the point where that happens is only visible afterwards. You have to steer well clear of the avalanche area because you can't stop it. The society wide version of lynch mobs that result if you don't make actual mobs seem friendly. That's the lesson of the 20th century. Avoid this or there will be rivers of blood - unless you try really, really hard to do it right this time - then there will be oceans of blood instead.

  9. Re:Am I in a goddamn cyberpunk novel? by uohcicds · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, you DO know what that quote is, don't ya? Here's a clue: "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." As sigs go, that's pretty stellar :)

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    It's not you: I'm just this horrifically socially awkward with everybody.