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Twitter Cut Out of Trump Tech Meeting Over Failed Emoji Deal, Says Report (politico.com)
According to Politico, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was "bounced" from Wednesday's meeting between tech executives and President-elect Donald Trump in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hashtag #CrookedHillary. Trump's adviser Sean Spicer denied the report, saying "the conference table was only so big." Politico reports: Twitter was one of the few major U.S. tech companies not represented at Wednesday afternoon's Trump Tower meeting attended by, among others, Apple's Tim Cook, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg, and Tesla's Elon Musk -- an omission all the more striking because of Trump's heavy dependence on the Twitter platform. Trump's campaign also made a $5 million deal with Twitter before the election, in which the campaign committed "to spending a certain amount on advertising and in exchange receive discounts, perks, and custom solutions," the campaign's director of digital advertising and fund raising, Gary Coby, wrote in a Medium post last month. So the campaign objected when the company refused to allow the anti-Clinton emoji. Coby wrote that Dorsey personally intervened to block the Trump operation from deploying the emoji, which would have shown, in various renderings, small bags of money being given away or stolen. That emoji would have been offered to users as a replacement for the hashtag #CrookedHillary, a preferred Trump insult for his Democratic opponent. Spicer also objected to the company's refusal, telling the Washington Examiner in October that "while Twitter claims to be a venue that promotes the free exchange of ideas, it's clear that it's leadership's left wing ideology literally trumps that." POLITICO's source said Spicer, who's also the Republican National Committee spokesman, was the one who made the call to refuse an invitation to Dorsey or other Twitter executives to Wednesday's meeting.
I mean, with all these goddamn meetings happening in goddamn Trump Tower, am I the only one thinking that it's like a goddamn prolog to a bad cyberpunk-dystopia novel?
"I remember the rise of the megacorps... when all the govs and corps started funneling through the Trumps. If you were anyone, if you wanted anything, you went through those doors, up that golden elevator, and would plead your case to the Trump himself..."
I don't have anything of substance to this particular conversation, but Jesus Harold CHRIST, am I the only one who gets creeped the hell out by constanly reading about the future of our country marching through the goddamn Trump Tower?
Twitter is a chat program. And they keep censoring things. Stupid things. In crazy hypocritical ways.
They're not DESERVING of being included in jack shit when it comes to america.
Twitter isn't a tech company. It's a 140 character message board. Were Slashdot and Reddit invited?
The roster of suck-ups at the meeting is somehwat harrowing. The photos of the expressions on their faces are priceless.
And to those that didn't make it there-- your integrity is intact. No slime, no foul, no tainted deals that will drain your legal dept dry in four years.
Who was missing at the table? People. Labor. The schmucks that do the actual work, like you and I. Larry Ellison? Gates? Zuck? Kravitz? Nope, not there either.
There is the 0.5%, the next 0.5% (some present at the meeting, especially those with outer space plans), and the 99% (us) were, um, kinda missing.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
That's a fascinating article, actually. Why don't we look at the evidence they present to support their claims?
So... they have anonymous people who are reporting rumors that they won't attach their names to. And there are other insiders saying the complete opposite. Lovely. Why don't they put out some actual, hard proof? Or prosecute someone? Maybe more of those banking restrictions they place on particular individuals? Oh, right.
So the FBI is willing to put their name on this saying it's not true, but the anonymous people with rumors are going to say our allies gossiped about this? And NBC simply labels this as a "Russian operation" despite failing to present any evidence of that. We already discussed just yesterday how Podesta fell for a simple phishing scam, but presumably here they're talking about the DNC leaks, which Wikileaks says came from a DNC insider. You can read all about the bad jouranlism behind this conclusion if you wish. They're simply laundering anonymous rumors with no factual basis and referencing each other's stories that have no factual basis. The emperor has no clothes.
You know it's bad when my own Slashdot comments scooped the NYT on that Podesta email story by weeks and given that I provided more actual, verifiable sources than their article. Seriously, if you can't even beat Slashdot comments by some random guy on the internet, maybe it's time to give it up, guys? You don't even bother to link to the actual sources lest someone do a real investigation, what a pathetic joke.
Back on topic, let's not forget that they brought up the 17 intelligence agencies again. Would it kill you guys to actually name them? It's also misleading, because it comes from the directors (political appointees), specifically it was the: "Joint Statement from the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security "
I love how they don't bother to link to the actual statement lest someone actually read what it said. It's not based on anything of substance as anyone can read. They essentially say this is totally something Russia would like to do. Also, we've seen random probes from Russia. Which everyone who has a network has seen all the time (same for China, incidentally), making it utterly meaningless. Everyone with an SSH server has seen this kind of crap and Slashdot has reported many such stories in the past, like this one. A nice quote from the comments in that story sums it up: "If you truly expect no traffic from those places, dropping China, Brasil and Russia from ever reaching your ssh port is a great idea."
Let's also not forget that the DHS was
I love everything about this story of the "tech summit" at Trump Tower.
1). Trump actually wanted Twitter to give him a "Crooked Hillary" emoji. Think about that. He wanted a special emoji.
2) He called Clinton "Crooked Hillary" while paying $25 million to settle a court case for bilking money from his customers.
3) Because Twitter wouldn't make his "Crooked Hillary" emoji, he punished them by not inviting him to his "tech summit"
4) He tells the assembled billionaires at the "tech summit" that he "wants to help them do well". THEY'RE ALREADY FUCKING BILLIONAIRES.
5) In the photos of the "tech summit" Jeff Bezos, Larry Page, Tim Cook and Elon Musk look like they're ready to jump out of a window because of whatever Trump is saying.
6) Just yesterday, Donald Trump had a summit with Kanye West, who is only days out of a psychiatric hold.
And because I love you all, here's an actual (really not fake) photo of Donald Trump with GG Allin, with a pull quote from Trump:
https://i.redditmedia.com/9D2K...
(note: If you don't know who GG Allin was, you really need to look it up, because it puts the photo in context.)
This is going to be fun.
You are welcome on my lawn.
"Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported."
The best part of all of this is you guys on the right still, after 75 years, think this is something that's possible with millions of people.
In short, blame all your problems on immigration, and blindly hope that removing immigration will fix all your problems.
When this inevitably fails to produce the desired result, more extreme, cruel and equally inefficient measures will be taken. This pattern has been repeated many times and it always ends up as a big steaming pile of shit for everyone.
Making an enemy of the President can have serious consequences.
Oh, does it, mein fuhrer?
I don't respond to AC's.
Some of us were worried that Trump was going to be petty, and seek revenge against those who he felt wronged him in the past, especially during the campaign.
Whew, sure glad to see that's not the case!
The sad part is that Trump is not the real problem. Oh he is a problem and a Huuuuuge one, but not the real one. The differences this election were stark. You had basic average long time somewhat uninspiring centrist versus Trump who was largely:
1) Substance Free
2) Fact Free
3) Full of obvious appeals to emotion. Fear the Terrorists. Do it Now!
4) Morals Free. Gram em by the p***y.
5) Full's of obvious appeals to racists and misogynists. Birthirism and all the crap about Hillary being sick, weak, tired, and all the rest.
All in all the real problem is a completely unqualified con man who I find to be the worst example of humanity to ever win the nomination of a major party in my lifetime was able to run on a stack of lies and win. How do you recover from that? Seriously how do you recover from that? You think there is a shortage of Trump's in this world? I seriously doubt it. This playbook will be used again, and again, and again.
Even now, Trump is admitting he lied on things like Birthirism, lock her up, Trump U, drain the swamp, obamacare, etc and there seems to be no real backlash about it.
The electors should take all this into account, along with all his foreign entanglements, and the fact that he is still hiding his taxes, even from them, and for the love of common decency choose someone else. Hell, the Clinton elector's would probably pick Romney if you asked them. Sure without the hacking and Comey's nonsense Hillary would have won, but at this point I'd be thrilled to get Mitt Romney. At least he had enough ethics not to apologize for telling the truth, even if he did suck up a little post election. Fundamentally he seems to be a good man, with policies I don't agree with, but a good man, and he probably wouldn't put putin's pall in charge of state.
Yeah, I'm surprised that Bezos was invited, given the role that the WaPo played during the election, and also given the fact that his company has contributed in no small way to the massive unemployment, which is Trump's pet foe in the new administration
Get some perspective. Christ almighty you lefties are so full of hatred and anger that you can't even see straight.
Wait. Are you trying to be funny or ironic? Because there's been a LOT of hate and anger expressed this election cycle and it's been coming from Trump and his followers. Liberals are simply frightened about real damage the Trump administration, Republicans and Conservative with seriously backward, narrow-minded, phobic, agendas, could have. (You *know* I'm right about those things -- just look at Ohio's attempt to ban abortions at 6 weeks after conception.)
You know, just like the unrealistic fears and hysteria Conservatives had when Obama was elected - because he was black and "not an American".
Of course, perhaps everyone should just relax. So far Trump has backed out or reduced most of his campaign promises, so he'll probably flake on everything else too.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Okay, I normally like to stay out of these discussions so I can moderate instead, but this is ridiculous.
1. First, unless you want to start a mercantilism-esque trade war, "make Mexico pay for it" isn't really feasible. Second, more people are going to Mexico from the US than are coming to the US from Mexico. Building a wall would be a rather pointless waste of resources. See http://www.pewresearch.org/fac...
2. Catch-and-release was used because it costs a great deal of money to imprison, house, try, and deport illegal immigrants. You need to do due process to avoid violating the constitution. In America, you're innocent until proven guilty - and that applies to people suspected of being in the country illegally. You cannot strip the rights of somebody because you *think* they don't have them, otherwise those rights are meaningless. If you want to end catch-and-release entirely, be prepared to spend a lot more money on law enforcement and the INS.
3. There are constitutional reasons why you can't compel the state law enforcement to do things. Also, DACA/DAPA (which is what I assume you mean when you refer to "Obama's deadly policies") didn't allow criminals to stay; if you had any serious convictions (any felony, any serious misdemeanor, or 3 misdemeanors of any kind) you weren't eligible.
4. Again: Constitutional issue. We preserve the right of law enforcement agencies to enforce laws as they see fit; "sanctuary city" is simply an extension of that. Sanctuary cities aren't "safe havens" for illegal immigrants. They're simply cities where the *local* law enforcement will not assist with matters that consist only of immigration status violations. The federal government is welcome to conduct their own operations, as is its right.
5. Sure, you can revoke DACA/DAPA - but be specific, it wasn't amnesty, it was an executive order to provide a temporary stay of enforcement. Amnesty is a different word that has a very different meaning.
6. We... already do? Visas aren't issued blindly, and their requirements are based on nation of origin. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
7. This is a concern only with a few nations (mostly in the middle east) and I actually agree.
8. This would cost tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars to set up and operate. We're not Israel; we don't have a single major point of air entry and a few heavily controlled land entry points. It would also not be terribly useful, because unless you're willing to track people once inside the country (and that opens up a whoooole different can of worms) it's not going to do a whole lot. You know person with X biometric data entered the country, great. Now what? They've moved and dropped off the radar. Good luck catching them.
9. The only way to make it not attractive to work here is to lower how much American companies pay, and I for one do not approve of dragging our standard of living down into the mud in order to accomplish that. You can punish companies more harshly for using illegal immigrants as labor, but making it objectively less attractive to work here isn't really feasible.
10. Which historic norms? Immigration's been pretty steady for the last twenty five years, give or take, so immigration as a function of population size has actually *dropped.*
America's problems (well, most of them) aren't because of immigrants. The real issues facing American workers stem from the ruination of unions in the 90s, the increased automation of the last 50+ years, and the willingness of other countries to not offer high standards of living for workers. The problem isn't going away, and blaming immigrants for it isn't going to fix the issue - especially when we have a ticking time bomb in the form of driverless trucking no more than a decade away.
Trucking employs about 1.8 million people, and contributes about
Never underestimate the stupidity inherent in all human beings.
Donald J. Trump’s 10 Point Plan to Put America First
1. Begin working on an impenetrable physical wall on the southern border, on day one. Mexico will pay for the wall.
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man" -- General George S. Patton.
2. End catch-and-release. Under a Trump administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country.
Good plan that; retaining illegals until they can be sent to any other country. Like Canada. The one with the impenetrable wall.
3. Move criminal aliens out day one, in joint operations with local, state, and federal law enforcement. We will terminate the Obama administration’s deadly, non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets.
In 8 years Dubya deported 2 million. In 7 years (so far) the "Deporter In Chief" has sent 2.5 million illegals packing.
4. End sanctuary cities.
Any details on this? Publically humiliating the mayors via tweets? Air strikes? Threatening to build (or not build) a Trump property?
5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced – we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.
Obama got carried away. DACA and DAPA were/are a bad call. A lawyer should have know better.
I can't wait until Americans get a shot at the 18 million jobs that those 5 million jobs illegals will leave behind. I just can't wait to see Joe Plumber in the fields at 4 am picking cabbage for $3/hour, then off to hang drywall or put on roofs in 110 degree heat for $4.50/hr. Let's make American heart attacks great again! All kidding aside, do you have any idea of the kinds of jobs that illegals hold, what they get paid and their working conditions? They are basically hostages working for sub-minimal wages under daily threat of deportation from employers.
6. Suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur, until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put into place.
I'ld like to see it at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Trump's squeeze this week (Melanija Knavs) is a foreign national. Citizenship is not transferable by relation (see item # 5 above).
7. Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.
"Hello, Mexico? We got some cooks and roofers up here. Come get these guys. Wadda mean there's an impenetrable wall? Who's goddam idea was that? Hello? Hello??"
8. Ensure that a biometric entry-exit visa tracking system is fully implemented at all land, air, and sea ports.
"Biometric data processed. Re-entry into the United States is refused. Your records indicate a defect in the APOE4 gene associated with Mild Cognitive Impariment. We apologize for the inconvenience Mr. Trump, Donald"
9. Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet. Many immigrants come to the U.S. illegally in search of jobs, even though federal law prohibits the employment of illegal immigrants.
"Mr Trump, here's the latest revision of the Ten Point Plan. As requested, all items are just re-wordings of the same idea. As you said, our supporters won't be able to figure that out."
10. Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers, keeping immigration levels within historic norms.
Interesting. All those millions of illegals slipping into the country up until now become "the historic norm".
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
As an innocent bystander (not republic/democrat/conservative/liberal), it's weird to hear people accuse others of being liberals merely because they're pointing out that they don't like Trump and his unrealistic stance. Every single person I know who voted for Trump does NOT like Trump, they just treated him as the slightly more tolerable candidate. So when I see someone pointing to Trump as the greatest candidate ever and that person is smart enough to use a computer, I can only imagine that they just keep repeating that as a mantra in order to keep from going into a deep depression.
The Republican leadership does NOT like Trump either, are they all liberal stooges? Yes some might claim that but if they believe it then they're in serious need of some vacation time with round the clock care. Everyone on the left or right is pandering to Trump as the next President, that does not mean they like him or agree with him, it's just basic common sense.
I agree that Trump is being much more toned down after the election. However the people he's listening to are not necessarily doing this. For a man claiming to be of the people he's nominating a cabinet full of the elitist of elites, and that's certainly due to the people whispering in his ear. So I don't think he'll flake on this as he seems to be nominating everyone his handlers tell him to. His fanbase don't seem to think this, they start off bashing the elites but then seem happy that these same elites are being nominated. My guess is that the people pulling the strings are going to be surprised when they let their guard down and he starts moving on his own. I honestly think Trump never planned on winning at all and he's winging it with the help of a lot of whispers in his ear. While Trump does seem to be backing down from campaign rhetoric I don't think he's showing that with his cabinet picks. He seems more like acting like a prominent CEO and letting others do the work of running things while he gets the publicity.
In other words, there's a whole lot of unpredictability going on. Will he just do what he's told or will he occasionally exert some free will? Too hard to predict. That's why there's a stream of people visiting his throne in Trump Tower, they need to pander to the unpredictable. People who are convinced with certainty about what Trump will do in office are deluding themselves.
From my perspective growing up in a farming area in Calilfornia, the biggest employers of undocumented workers are also very conservative and Republican. These farmers wanting cheap workers are not elitist liberals by any means. They just want cheap labor. Unions who are typically branded as liberal these days are the ones who want to get rid of undocumented workers who drive down wages. For some bizarre reason this turned into a left vs right issue, but that's how everything works in the US because we're not smart enough to understand anything more nuanced than two political stances. There are jobs that American citizens and green card holders really don't want to take if they have a choice. If you want to get rid of undocumented workers I think the smart approach would be to reduce welfare subsidies for able bodied workers.
>We won.
Are you a billionaire ? No? than you have lost.
Looking at the pictures, no one looked delighted to be there. Tim Cook in particular looked like he been asked to eat week-old dog shit, to be frank. Attendance is a necssary evil, like your mother making you take cod liver oil to "keep you regular" when you were a kid These could be the opening shots in a long and messy few years, as tech companies rub up against a thin-skinned and authoritarian lower order primate. But hey, he's a smart guy. Who needs intelligence briefings, eh? Not like that dumb Obama guy. Sad!
It's not you: I'm just this horrifically socially awkward with everybody.
Trump *is* appeasing the terminally offended. They are the Trump supporters.
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You aren't giving Trump the respect deserving of a Sgt. Bilko. From Trump's perspective, anything these companies do to increase employment in the U.S. will now be claimed by Trump as his win, and anything they do that he doesn't like he'll claim as breaking their "agreement" with him, regardless of whether there is an agreement or not. His followers will blindly believe what he tells them.
The CEOs were stupid to feed the troll, they'll now get screwed by him whenever it suits him.
According to Politico...
You can stop reading right there.
Oh, does it, mein fuhrer?
You should ask the Obama administration. Just a reminder that the IRS targeted "tea party groups." Multiple people within the IRS resigned, there are multiple cases before the courts. The inspector general stated that the IRS was indeed targeting those right-wing groups and protecting democrat groups. Oh, and the IRS and Obama administration are still stonewalling on the reasoning or even documents as to why they were targeting those groups.
Om, nomnomnom...
it's weird to hear people accuse others of being liberals
That's how it works in all extreme ideologies. You are either with us or against us. Part of the system or an enemy of it. Everything is black and white.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Do the deaths of little people not matter as long as the great leap forward is achieved? Do you think the statist socialist places weren't doing socialism hard enough, or will you make a 'no true Scottsman' argument and claim they weren't doing it right? It's just that every single time... every. time... every. single. time... it ends in rivers of blood. The useful idealists are liquidated the moment they object.
I'm not going to make a "no true Scotsman" argument, because it's irrelevant whether what they were trying to achieve was "true" socialism.
Socialism, communism, capitalism—none of those have anything particular to do with mass state-sponsored murder. If you think socialism—things like Medicare, Social Security, and the Earned Income Tax Credit—can in any meaningful causative way lead to millions dead, then you're the one who's deluded.
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Well you have to remember that Trumps campaign never gave a fuck about whats real since to them it was just a competition and now that the competition has been won it doesn't matter how they did it or what they did about it.
So, you mean the Republican candidate finally started acting like this was a real competition, and made shit up like the liberals have for years?
Sen. Harry Reid about Romney: "He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! "
Followed up after election with: "Romney didn't win, did he?"
Dan Rather using obviously faked military documents to prove Bush didn't perform his military duty.
How many more do you want? We could do this all day long with fake news and lies told by Democrats and their media supporters. Mainstream media, by the way. Not some uber-right crackpot like InfoWars that most people never heard of.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
For some bizarre reason this turned into a left vs right issue, but that's how everything works in the US because we're not smart enough to understand anything more nuanced than two political stances.
The important thing to remember about parties in the US system is that they don't actually represent consistent ideological positions; that's largely a convenient fiction. Ideology tends to divide people along fine distinctions, which works in a parliamentary system because a small party can join a governing coalition. In fact small parties often play kingmaker and wield a great deal of power. In the American system being a small party like the Greens means you get nothing. Ever.
In the US we have to build our cross-ideological coalition within the parties, which requires a lot of creative rationalization and, to put it bluntly, emotional manipulation. That's why the Democrats have trade unionists and minorities on one hand, and the Republicans have evangelicals and the Log Cabin Republicans on the other. These groups have little intrinsic motivation to support each other, except that's the only way to get a share of power.
This means that to understand a party you cant just go by the pictures they paint of themselves (never a good idea with any group); you need to look at their history. And that explains those Republican ranchers and their undocumented workers. From Reconstruction until the 1960s the Republican party was regional party that represented Northern and later Western business interests. The in 1964 Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. That very year arch-segregationist Strom Thurmond switched parties from Democrat to Republican, and the Republicans for the first time ever gained a foothold in the South and a nation-wide scope that has allowed them to dominate the House of Representatives since the early 90s.
A Democratic hyperpartisan will tell you the post-Nixon Republicans embraced racism, but really what they did was smarter: they embraced nativism. Nativism had considerable appeal to racists while being more acceptable to traditional Republicans. However this also conflicted with business interests (especially agricultural ones), so the Republican party adopted a regime of hard rhetoric and and harsh but deliberately ineffective measures. If you don't believe me, check out this graph of undocumented Mexicans in the US and note the transition from the Bush era to the Obama era. Obama actually stepped up deportations pretty much from the get go, particularly of criminals.
At the same time the adoption of nativism by the Republicans makes the Democrats' job easier. While from a strict trade-unionist position undocumented workers are a bad thing, in practical terms the impacts aren't in jobs where there is a strong union, because the union prevents employers from paying low wages to non-union workers.
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