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Wikipedia Exceeds Fundraising Target, But Continues Asking For More Money (theregister.co.uk)

Reader Andreas Kolbe writes: The fundraising banners on Wikipedia this year are so effective that halfway through its December fundraising campaign, the Wikimedia Foundation has already exceeded its $25 million donations target for the entire month, reports The Register. A few weeks ago, Jimmy Wales promised that the Wikimedia Foundation would "stop the fundraiser if enough money were raised in shorter than the planned time". But there's no sign of the Foundation doing that. When asked about this more recently, a Wikimedia Foundation spokesperson remained non-committal on ending the campaign early. The most recent audited accounts of the Wikimedia Foundation showed net assets of $92 million and revenue of $82 million. None of this money, incidentally, pays for writing or checking Wikipedia content – that's the job of unpaid volunteers – and only $2 million are spent on internet hosting every year.

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  1. Misleading by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hosting is not Wikipedia's largest expense. Salaries are. They spent $32 million on salaries. Total expenses were $67 million.

    Even considering all of the expenses, their net income was positive $16 million last year.

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    1. Re:Misleading by ckatko · · Score: 5, Informative

      People commenting are just guessing.

      They used to have ONE or two full-time engineers running the entire site till like... 2008 or so. Then they started hiring TONS of people running the "Foundation" including marketing, events, charity shit, "diversity consultant" hires. Basically, an army of losers who don't do anything productive and spend their time justifying their existence and partying.

      Basically, Wikipedia has become the US college system. A few productive teachers, surrounded by an army of "administrators" and their assistants... and their assistants... and their assistants.

      Hell, check out one of their own projections. Only 35% is engineering. That's pretty much the opposite of "lean" for a company that PRODUCES NO CONTENT.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

      But don't take my word for it. Check the glass door:

      https://www.glassdoor.com/Revi...

      >This is an organization in crisis. It is highly dysfunctional, there is a strong culture of secrecy, which is surprising for an organization working in open knowledge. Teams are siloed and isolated, C-levels disagree on direction, ED has lost the support needed to do her job, BoT is in a freeze and too weak to drive change. It is a toxic and depressing place to work.

      >Bureaucracy and secrecy creeps in unless regularly checked. Our Board sometimes wants us to be a venture-style tech company rather than a knowledge-empowerment nonprofit. Community consultation adds a layer of complexity to every new venture (but its worth it!).

      >PHP. Low pay. Fear of changes. Top management has almost completely flipped since Lila took over in 2015. (including bosses who have come and gone since then) It's really tough to get work done when your boss keeps changing.

      >Many mid-level managers are inexperienced and have trouble supporting their employees. Overall lack of strategy and lack of will to make positive change. The communication can be disrespectful. The foundation values diversity but fails to make it one of their own priorities.

      >Politics! Politics! Politics! Performance review process outdated.

      >Tolerance of non performers, Hostile behaviors by some staff threaten continued diversity/innovation.

  2. Re:The reason they keep raising money by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well if the summary is to be believed, they have 45x their yearly costs. That's a bit more than protection from swings in donations.

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  3. Trying to build up an endowment by LordNicholas · · Score: 5, Informative
    Per their financial statements, they're trying to build up an endowment (like a university and many other large non-profits) so they can support themselves off investment income, and not need to rely as much on direct donations. Those incremental donations after the fundraising goal is reached are even more valuable since they can go directly towards growing the endowment.

    During the year ended June 30, 2016, the Foundation entered into an agreement with the Tides Foundation to establish the Wikimedia Endowment as a Collective Action Fund to act as a permanent safekeeping fund to generate income to ensure a base level of support for the Wikimedia projects in perpetuity. The Endowment is independent from the Foundation. On June 29, 2016, the Foundation provided an irrevocable grant in the amount of $5 million to the Tides Foundation for the purpose of the Wikimedia Endowment. The amount is recorded in awards and grants expense.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

  4. Re:Would be great if they hired professional edito by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    A professional admin team would largely eliminate many of the problems Wikipedia has with its various cabals.

    Yes it would. But a professional admin team would use up most of the money that is currently going to other people.

    net assets of $92 million and revenue of $82 million. None of this money, incidentally, pays for writing or checking Wikipedia content – that's the job of unpaid volunteers – and only $2 million are spent on internet hosting every year.

    Which is exactly why you should never give money to them.

  5. Re:The reason they keep raising money by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Informative

    The last time I looked they had something like a decades worth of "buffer" on hand - yet, each year they breathlessly push the donation campaign as if the lights were going to go out if you didn't donate promptly. This year, as per usual, even though they've met their target - the breathless "donate or Wikipedia dies" continues apace.

    That is what people are having a problem with - not with them raising money, but with their misleading tactics.

  6. Re:The reason they keep raising money by Steve+Hamlin · · Score: 5, Informative

    $78.5 million of the $92 million of net assets are cash and short-term financial investments.

    2016 Donations & Revenue (gross inflows)
    $ 82 million

    2016 Expenses (selected):

    $ 32 million - Salaries
    $ 11 million - Awards & Grants
    $ 6 million - Professional Services
    $ 4.8 million - Other Operating Expenses
    $ 3.6 million - Donation Processing Expenses
    $ 2.6 million - Travel, Conferences & Special Events
    $ 2.0 million - Internet Hosting

    2016 "Net Income" (increase in unrestricted net assets)
    $ 15 million

    See for yourself: https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

  7. Adblock to the rescue by GuB-42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just add this line to the block list of your favorite ad blocker (uBlock origin, ABP, ...)

    wikipedia.org###centralNotice

    It is not included by default because EasyList doesn't consider self-promotion to be advertisement. I do.

  8. Re: Why does anyone donate to Wikipedia? by Andreas+Kolbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    About ten years ago, Jimmy Wales said about Wikipedia (time code 4:35):

    “So, we’re doing around 1.4 billion page views monthly. So, it’s really gotten to be a huge thing. And everything is managed by the volunteers and the total monthly cost for our bandwidth is about 5,000 dollars, and that’s essentially our main cost. We could actually do without the employee ... We actually hired Brion [Vibber] because he was working part-time for two years and full-time at Wikipedia so we actually hired him so he could get a life and go to the movies sometimes.”

    In 2008, when Wikipedia was already the world's number 8 website, the Wikimedia Foundation survived on $5 million (vs. $82 million last year). So, yes, you can have a top-ten website – written entirely by unpaid volunteers – for a fraction of the current cost.

  9. Re:Why does anyone donate to Wikipedia? by careysub · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry but your comment is dangerously ignorant. Your comment undermines their fundraising drive yet is reprehensibly ignorant of the scale of expenses that the Wikimedia Foundation has. You act as if all that money is irrelevant which totally ignores *EVERYTHING* about what needs to be done to provide readers what the volunteer editors have written and created.

    This points to the key problem with WIkimedia.

    If you look at the Charity Watch score for Wikipedia you see that is pretty high, indicating a well run charity. This seems odd given that there is actually very little public information about the actual uses to which the money is put (no, spending by broad accounting category - "engineering", "advertising", etc. does not provide this).

    Examining the matter more closely it appears that Jimmy Wales has broken new ground in "charity engineering", operating a charity in such a way that the various scoring factors for a well-run charity are met, without actually providing any real transparency.

    For most charities, that exist to provide services to specific classes of people say, you can tell if they are well-run by the fraction of money actually being spent on those people. Take as an example "Doctors Without Borders". It exists to put medical teams in war-torn and otherwise troubled areas who have none. You can assess its effectiveness by counting its teams and staffers, and the money that goes directly to supporting them.

    If the purpose of Wikimedia is to support Wikipedia (that's their pitch on every page view) then they are an abysmally run charity. The total cost of supporting Wikipedia is about $8 million it seems - a fairly generous estimate really, with hosting costing only $2 million of this. They do not provide any convenient break-out of this, BTW, they hide the actual figure (but enough data, historical and otherwise, is available to make a good estimate), only the hosting figure is actually provided. The Wikipedia support cost disappeared from view when the aggressive, highly profitable fund-raising started. Thus of the ~$100 million they are collecting this year, only 8% goes to the supporting the mission they use to promote the fund-raising. Perhaps another 10% is going into the newly created endowment (we will have to see reporting for this year), but they are not being transparent about this thus far. By normal standards this would put them in the tank as a scam charity.

    But they do have pages and pages about expansive vague goals, from which it is impossible assess how effective they are being, or where most of the money they spend is really going and which is being used for covering literally unlimited fundraising. Sure they are paying a lot of staff high salaries. But why? The exploding staff and grants are unconnected with non-existent exploding Wikipedia costs, or usage, or quality.

    Actually in a sense the transparency that does exist, getting them high charity ratings, provides us with key data to see that they are (mostly) running a scam. You see we know their over-all balance sheet and can see that it has currently (making adjustments for unreported recent months) $100 million or so in unspent money, free and clear, and are piling it up at a rate of at least $30 million a year. This is enough money right now to fully fund that endowment.

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