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Researchers Find Roads Shatter the Earth's Surface Into 600,000 Fragments (phys.org)

An international team of conservation scientists have released a new global map of roadless areas that shows that the Earth's surface is shattered by roads into more than 600,000 fragments. While roads allow humans to travel to nearly every region in the world, they severely reduce the ability of ecosystems to function effectively. Phys.Org reports: Recent research carried out by an international team of conservation scientists and published in the journal Science used a dataset of 36 million kilometers of roads across the landscapes of the earth. They are dividing them into more than 600,000 pieces that are not directly affected by roads. Of these remaining roadless areas only 7 percent are larger than 100 km2. The largest tracts are to be found in the tundra and the boreal forests of North America and Eurasia, as well as some tropical areas of Africa, South America and Southeast Asia. Only 9 percent of these areas undisturbed by roads are protected. Roads introduce many problems to nature. For instance, they interrupt gene flow in animal populations, facilitate the spread of pests and diseases, and increase soil erosion and the contamination of rivers and wetlands. Then there is the free movement of people made possible by road development in previously remote areas, which has opened these areas up to severe problems such as illegal logging, poaching and deforestation. Most importantly, roads trigger the construction of further roads and the subsequent conversion of natural landscapes, a phenomenon the study labels "contagious development."

143 comments

  1. Roads? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where we're going we don't need roads.

    1. Re:Roads? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      So then maybe we have an excuse to have flying cars after all.

    2. Re:Roads? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      You seem to go back to the future, while the article suggests to go back to the past...

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    3. Re:Roads? by syntotic · · Score: 1

      Too late to slap Romans on the face for being so modern.

    4. Re:Roads? by rhyous · · Score: 1

      While reading the article, I thought. This first comment has to be the quote from Back 2 the Future. Then I scrolled down. Thank you for not letting me down!

  2. "roads trigger the construction of further roads" by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    they're alive, i tell ya.

  3. Bridges! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need more squirrel bridges!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462228/Mayor-insists-120-000-bridge-built-SQUIRRELS-cross-busy-road-Holland-not-waste-money-despite-five-animals-using-four-years.html

    1. Re:Bridges! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Jeremy Clarkson featured this squirrel bridge in the current week's Grand Tour

  4. Don't tell the chickens by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    "It didn't! Its dreams were SHATTERED!"

    (queue the Rolling Stones)

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    1. Re:Don't tell the chickens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It didn't! Its dreams were SHATTERED!"

      (queue the Rolling Stones)

      Please, not The Rolling Stones and THAT SONG.

      I think The Rolling Stones started "going to seed" around that time (circa 1978), and I was young enough at the time to understand their lyrics.

    2. Re:Don't tell the chickens by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Cue, you fucking 'dromie.

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  5. Re:"roads trigger the construction of further road by tripleevenfall · · Score: 3, Funny

    People denying the existence of roads may be roads themselves.

  6. Innumeracy. by msauve · · Score: 1, Insightful

    600,000 may sound like a big number. But consider that the Earth's land surface is 197,000,000 mi^2 (sorry for the imperial units, figure it out). So, roads "shatter" the Earth into average sections of 328 mi^2. Big woopee-doo.

    ("Shatter?" Unless the claimant can find lots of roads which have created fault lines in the Earth's crust, that's a troll at best, and more likely a deliberate falsification to support an agenda.)

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    1. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's because the root claim is preposterous. Ecosystems span roads no problem. They don't span cities too well though.

    2. Re:Innumeracy. by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

      Actually, 600,000 sounds like a really small area when you think that my block would be a section defined by roads. Later on in the article (which is an article that discusses the actual article) it says "They are dividing them into more than 600,000 pieces that are not directly affected by roads." So the 600k sections represent areas that we haven't really screwed up yet. I noticed on their map that they don't include Antarctica so I don't know if that's in with their calculations. There's one section with a large surface are (how large depends if you include the ice or not).

    3. Re:Innumeracy. by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Dude, you've not been to wilderness or semi-wilderness areas? Roadkill (and its railway cousin, train-kill) are just the visible surface of the iceberg. Roads segment ecosystems: its true. Even snails that get trod on on pavements are an illustration.

    4. Re:Innumeracy. by presidenteloco · · Score: 4, Informative
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    5. Re:Innumeracy. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Unless the claimant can find lots of roads which have created fault lines in the Earth's crust

      Who said anything about fault lines, who said anything about the crust? The roads have most definitely created lines on the earth's surface. English doesn't care for your pedantry.

    6. Re:Innumeracy. by umafuckit · · Score: 2

      The original article is not innumerate. It describes the distribution of sizes of road-free segments and considers what sort of land these are. Even in the abstract (which you obviously haven't read) states that since 80% of the planet has no roads "only 7% of land patches created by roads being greater than 100 km2." Thus, in the areas where there are roads, the road-free patches tend to be very small.

    7. Re:Innumeracy. by thesupraman · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, you are.

      Said like someone who lives in a city, probably an apartment, and knows jack shit about actual ecosystems, but feels because they drink soy latte, and own a bike, they are a gaian dream.

      Hint: generally, ecosystems span roads more easily than roads span ecosystems.
      In fact roads are one of the easiest constructs for them to span. malls, stadiums, towns, cities - all much much worse.

      Roads result in a bit of roadkill - probably less than the many MANY others causes of death in the wild.
      Roads with chainlink side fences are a bit more problematical, but not many countries are that 'special'

    8. Re:Innumeracy. by msauve · · Score: 1

      "80% of the planet has no roads"

      That's a completely idiotic statement. It implies that roads cover 20% of the planet's surface. Nonsense.

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    9. Re: Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great arguments! You are wrong.

    10. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you're just full of excuses and justifications. None of the damage people like you contribute to can be real if it gets in the way of your driving, huh? Look out for that air pollution and global warming you're causing too.

    11. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roadkill is not relevant to every kind of road. Looking at the map of Europe, they must have included maintenance roads in natural parks that are completely closed to traffic under normal circumstances.

    12. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is everything a conspiracy to you morons? Roads fuck up migration paths significantly. Every single thing humans do to this planet fucks it up. WAKE UP! The planet is an organism, and we're slowing killing it, like a bacterial infection will kill its host. The only difference is that we KNOW it's happening and can stop it, if shitheads like you would stop caring only about yourselves and your precious fucking money.

    13. Re:Innumeracy. by plopez · · Score: 1

      ummmmm yeah..... your number include the liquid portion. In addition you are falling victim to the fallacy of averages (in this case the mean).

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    14. Re:Innumeracy. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 0

      The word "shatter" denotes activity much more violent than making a line. The headline's most reasonable interpretation involves earthquakes.

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    15. Re:Innumeracy. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I slept 8 hours last night. According to you, that fucks up the planet.

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    16. Re: Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which itself is impressive since it is 2/3rds water...

    17. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I saw three deer cross the road the other day.

      (Kind of cute, really.)

      (I was on foot FWIW.)

    18. Re:Innumeracy. by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      A better word than "shatter" would be "segment".

    19. Re:Innumeracy. by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's not clear to me if they are saying that literally 20% of the land's surface is covered by roads or that 20% of the land is defined as areas that contains roads. The latter seems more likely.

    20. Re:Innumeracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does, because you didn't die in your sleep, which would have actually helped the planet.

    21. Re:Innumeracy. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Roadkill is not relevant to every kind of road. Looking at the map of Europe, they must have included maintenance roads in natural parks that are completely closed to traffic under normal circumstances.

      Unlike the US, much of Europe won't allow "maintenance roads" at all in nature preserves. They are devoid of structures that require maintenance by road.

      In rural areas there is also less need for roads than in the US, because of the universal right of passage which many countries have, where people can use your roads and pass over your property, and you are not allowed to prevent them. If I wanted to get from A to B, I wouldn't need a public road going around C's property - I would simply use his road. One less road, and shorter roads.

    22. Re:Innumeracy. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If you care so much about humanity's effect on the planet, wouldn't the proper course be to kill yourself and remove your effect from the rest of us?

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  7. Proof that "Science" has become "Politics" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    When an eco-warrior manifesto worthy of the Unabomber makes into a publication like "Science," the real conclusion that should be drawn is that the scientific publishing establishment has been overtaken by propagandists with a political agenda.

    1. Re:Proof that "Science" has become "Politics" by ir0nHat · · Score: 0

      Is this theory conclusive evidence that the scientific publishing is "Fake News"

    2. Re:Proof that "Science" has become "Politics" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When a fake-news complaint post worthy of the conspiracy theorists makes it into every slashdot post, the real conclusion that should be drawn is that Anonymous Coward posts has been overtaken by Asshat Clowns with a political agenda.

  8. So now we know, what's the next step? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    To 'fix' critical ecosystems, could we 'bury' sections of roads (either by tunneling, or building 'hills' over the top of existing roads? (the latter being easier in places which cut through hills already)

    Should future roads be built underground/at the treetop level?

    Data for data's sake is fine, but recommendations need to come out of this.

  9. Re: "roads trigger the construction of further roa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to blame the Romans, those unenvironmental asshats and their... their.... roads!
     
      But seriously, don't blame the roads, blame the species that built them.

  10. Typical enviro extremism by Raisey-raison · · Score: 0, Troll

    We have close to 7.5 billion people on the planet. Without roads people would be living in poverty. Unless you have a reasonable alternative you cannot complain. Should we just have huge no go areas 200 km by 200 km? Should we just not farm the earth and allow humankind to starve? And there is already not enough homes for the current population. It's easy to be an environmentalist when you are wealthy and have a beautiful and large home. Articles like this don't consider the human dimension. Why is Slashdot so biased?

    1. Re:Typical enviro extremism by thePsychologist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article actually advocates the protection of the most ecologically rich already roadless areas, not the destruction of roads. Roads in lots of these areas wouldn't necessarily be beneficial to humankind. It's just that in many of these areas there is insufficient protection of the habitats in them.

      Obviously, there can be a smarter strategy for humans than the two extremes of no farming and killing everything that you seem to outline in your post.

      And, most environment researchers (or academics of any type) are definitely not rich, especially if you take into account the atrocious salary for early career researchers who make less than bus drivers.

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    2. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Yaztromo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was going to mod you down, but I thought I'd take the time to publicly berate you instead.

      The article in question is a scientific, scholarly article, written by actual environmental researchers. It appears[0] to have done what you would expect of a scientific article -- it has identified a possible problem (environmental fragmentation due to roads), and had done some measurements surrounding the issue. And that's it. The article isn't judging you. It's not judging society. Indeed, right in the very first sentence of the abstract it says:

      Roads have done much to help humanity spread across the planet and maintain global movement and trade.

      About the only conclusion the authors draw is that more should be done to protect the existing large tracts of land without roads (totalling about 7% of earth surface). And that's it. They don't call you a bad person for using roads. They aren't trying to guilt people into ripping up existing roads. All they are saying is "roads are great; we need roads; they cause some problems; and we have a measurement to frame the problem". Nothing more. There is no complaining going on. This is science, not ethics, so get a grip already. The one with a huge bias here isn't ./ or the articles authors, it's you.

      Yaz

      [0] -- I unfortunately haven't been able to access the full article. While I do have access to a number of scientific article databases, this article was just published today, and doesn't appear to be indexed in any of them just yet.

    3. Re:Typical enviro extremism by arth1 · · Score: 2

      We have close to 7.5 billion people on the planet. Without roads people would be living in poverty. Unless you have a reasonable alternative you cannot complain.

      Fewer people.
      Underground roads.
      Robots.

      With the current level of automation, 7.5 million seems like a more sustainable number of people than 7.5 billion. As automation increases, this can be decreased.

    4. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We have close to 7.5 billion people on the planet.

      The problem is that NUM_PEOPLE * RESOURCES_USED_PER_PERSON exceeds the sustainable level on our planet.
      The fix would be to try to get both the size of the human population and the amount of resources used per person to decline. The birth rates are already decreasing in many parts of the world (except Africa and India), but it is challenging to reduce or limit the resource usage per person.

      It's easy to be an environmentalist when you are wealthy and have a beautiful and large home.

      That is part of the human nature: seeing flaws in others but not in oneself. For example, the Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom has said that he is concerned of the overpopulation, but he has at least 5 kids!

    5. Re:Typical enviro extremism by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This. For the love of FSM, somebody mod this up. Scientists want to offer their findings to the world with the hope that they will make it a better place to live. Far too many of the posts on this site have called into question the good faith of scientists in this regard.

      It tales a lot of study, work, and determination to become a scientist. Despite what some may suggest, the financial rewards are modest. Scientists put their hearts into what they do. They deserve to be heard when they have something to say.

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    6. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Orgasmatron · · Score: 0

      You clearly didn't read the summary. It skipped over the fig leaf and jumped almost directly into all of the ways that you and your roads are killing the planet.

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    7. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Yaztromo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You clearly didn't read the summary. It skipped over the fig leaf and jumped almost directly into all of the ways that you and your roads are killing the planet.

      No, I went one better and went and found the actual paper the article is based on.

      The summary didn't make any judgement of you or anyone else either. It listed a variety of problems caused by roads -- and that's it. If you feel personally slighted by the list, that's your problem.

      Again -- nobody said anything about tearing up roads, or that we shouldn't use them. Roads cause some problems, and help with others. Adults can discuss the cons of something without it implicitly becoming about trying to ban or tear that item out of existence. Indeed, instead of going insane and assuming they are being judged by a scientific paper, rational adults would instead have a discussion on how we might be able to mitigate the problems, while continuing to enjoy the benefits.

      Instead, we seem to have too many babies around here who read a list acknowledging problems with roads and assume "They hate roads! I use roads! Therefore they hate me/civilization/everything I stand for!", when no such things were stated or implied.

      Now if you're interested in putting on your adult pants and discussing like an rational human being, a more interesting discussion would be on the relative benefits of mitigation strategies, such as wildlife overpasses/underpasses. Parks Canada is considered one of the major world experts on practical wildlife crossing research, and has some interesting materials online discussing the problems and solutions.

      See how that works? Someone identifies a problem. Someone else identifies possible solutions. The solutions are evaluated. Nobody goes berserk and simply tears everything apart, nobody calls anyone names, nobody assumes anyone is a bad person. Like an adult. Try it for yourself.

      Yaz

    8. Re:Typical enviro extremism by johannesg · · Score: 0

      The intention of articles such as this is clearly to make people feel bad about... well, their existence, really. Just by our sheer presence we are destroying the world, and here is further evidence, it says. If you are a citizen of a Western country your footprint is several earths. Never mind the way you _actually_ live; it's all about where you were born that determines if you are destroying the planet.

      Slashdot is rapidly becoming an eco-site instead of a tech site, with plenty of articles intended to instill a sense of guilt. This one may not directly state it is our fault, but the intention is nonetheless there: "see how bad you are? See what the consequences are?" They don't have to spell it out by calling you a bad person. Anyone who reads this understands perfectly fine.

      Now, I'm all in favor of not destroying the world. Unfortunately the number one problem is never available for discussion: there are too many people. The world would be far better of with fewer of us, and it can be argued that instead of policies that promote endless population growth (which are necessary to sustain our current economic models), we are in dire need of policies that promote population shrinkage (to be achieved through birth control, nothing more dramatic than that). To the best of my knowledge, the only country that has experimented with this is China, and even China is now stepping back from its one child policy. Everywhere else, you get called a nazi for even considering that it might be good to just talk about it.

      Oh, and to the guy who is about to comment "why don't you kill yourself": try for something original instead...

    9. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Goldsmith · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure you know how science (as a profession) works. These guys wrote the paper for a reason. They did the research for a reason. There's a grant manager and staff writing contracts, doing accounting and presenting reports to an NGO board about this work... all for a reason. This didn't just happen because of scientific curiosity, and it's absolutely insulting to scientists to remove us from policy and moral debates. I think if anything, we got into science to win those debates. (If you can't tell yet, I'm a scientist, and your comment royally pisses me off.) We do science because of our biases and because we want to change things.

      So yeah. This work was ABSOLUTELY about making an argument blaming civilization for damaging the environment. There are many fields of science devoted to that purpose. The people doing this work are absolutely hoping that more people think about roads as a problem as a result of what they've written.

      You're quoting the editor's blurb, not the scientists, by the way. The scientists end their abstract with

      Global protection of ecologically valuable roadless areas is inadequate. International recognition and protection of roadless areas is urgently needed to halt their continued loss.

      Those are not the words of someone just reporting the facts with no commentary. These guys got paid by their donors to do this because they're expected to make statements like this, and they're published in Science because they're good at making arguments like this. This is what professional scientists do.

      They don't need you pretending that there is no moral message or call to action in the work they're doing.

    10. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Yaztromo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The intention of articles such as this is clearly to make people feel bad about... well, their existence, really.

      No, it isn't. And there is something seriously wrong with the psyche of anyone who reads a scientific article and that is what they pull out of it.

      The article reported on a scientific paper, and that is all. Stop trying to "read between the lines" on everything to pick out intentions that are not there. You only wind up reinforcing your own prejudices.

      Yaz

    11. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scientists want to offer their findings to the world (...)

      In the case of these specific scientists, the Internet seems to think otherwise. Why on earth would they hide their findings in obscure databases hidden behind paywalls and logins if what they actually wanted was to offer it to the world?! It seems to me they're actively trying to make their research as inaccessible as possible while still being able to claim that it was "published".

    12. Re:Typical enviro extremism by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Informative

      Roads introduce many problems to nature. For instance, they interrupt gene flow in animal populations, facilitate the spread of pests and diseases, and increase soil erosion and the contamination of rivers and wetlands. Then there is the free movement of people made possible by road development in previously remote areas, which has opened these areas up to severe problems such as illegal logging, poaching and deforestation. Most importantly, roads trigger the construction of further roads and the subsequent conversion of natural landscapes, a phenomenon the study labels "contagious development."

      Do you really not understand how this is left-wing environmentalist misanthropism? If not, I recommend reading it again, paying special attention to the part about "Roads introduce many problems to nature" and where it compares roads to a disease with "contagious development". Seriously, I do not understand how you are pretending to miss the clear meaning here. You know, people would take environmentalists a lot better if you people weren't so full of hate for the rest of us all the time.

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    13. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed, fixing population growth is the only permanent solution to our environmental footprint because otherwise the "greener" we get we'll just grow to be 10 billion, 20 billion, 50 billion and so on until no matter how green we are individually the sheer number of straws on the camel's back will break it. That said, how much environmental impact we make is not insignificant - unfiltered pollution and unchecked use of toxic materials could easily be the difference between a sustainable population of 100 million and 100 billion.

      So yes, I think it's a valuable point. But if you're using it as a blocker in that there's no point discussing anything else until we got population growth under control it's an excuse. Not least of which because we mostly have, it's not a population boom anymore because the birth numbers - which are the only thing that ultimately matters - are slowing down. Average children per woman was 5 in 1964 and less than 2.5 now with a replacement population of about 2.1, so from almost +3 to less than +0.4 on a downward trend.

      We will be 10 billion-ish because of the fill-up effect of the population pyramid equalizing and the continuing advances in medical science, but nothing like in the past. But the pressing issue is whether the planet can sustain 10 billion people polluting as much as the worst of us or whether we're already past the sustainable limit. If we are we either need to downsize the population a lot - unlikely in the short term, at least - or we need to get so much greener that 10 billion is sustainable. It's certainly not harder than the other option.

      P.S. I think the expansion is often far more resource consuming than the mere continuation, like we build houses and roads and as long as roughly the same number of people live there we just need to maintain them and slowly repair/replace them as necessary. If we're growing though we need to make new houses and new roads because in the game of musical chairs there's eventually some people left over that can't fit in what we already have. That in itself is a good reason to limit growth, it's more sustainable to carry on than to constantly expand, which means you constantly have to take resources from somewhere new.

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    14. Re:Typical enviro extremism by johannesg · · Score: 1

      First of all, you might have noticed that both me and the OP were talking about _the article on slashdot_, not the scientific paper. And second, you seem mightily sure about the contents of the paper, despite not having read it.

      What _is_ the reason for the article being on slashdot, do you suppose? How is this "news for nerds, stuff that matters"? The only thing I can imagine is that it fits in with the new slashdot policy of having far too many eco-articles, and the slant of those is most definitely that "we are all bad".

    15. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know nothing. Mann's salary is public look it up, it was quite modest for a prominent scientists ~300K/yr, if I recall. If his grants are a like any normal university, half immediately goes to overhead. The remainder is divided over multiple years and pays for labor hours of his research team, who generally earn less than the private sector.

      You have also selected one of the most prominent scientists in the world and are using that as a counter claim that AGW researchers are rich? Something tells me this is a typical investigative inquiry for all things you don't like, lol. You can't be taken seriously.

    16. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who don't have kids aren't worried about overpopulation, because it won't really harm them in their lifetime.

      People who have kids, on the other hand, are worried about the too many kids that everyone else has.

    17. Re:Typical enviro extremism by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Frankly you're both right or wrong depending on how you look at it.

      Raisey's response to the article and to its source was reasonably calling out their obvious agenda and use of biased language.

      However, the word 'shattered' doesn't appear to have appeared in the original study (they used fragmented), so it was at least mostly scientific (again, with an agenda but not quite so inflammatory)

      My objection to the original study would be their arbitrary addition of 1km margins to every road before calculating, which would obviously bias their resulting calculations. Does an unpaved logging road through a forest that gets used twice a year merit that?

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    18. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 0

      you know nothing. Mann's salary is public look it up, it was quite modest for a prominent scientists ~300K/yr, if I recall. If his grants are a like any normal university, half immediately goes to overhead. The remainder is divided over multiple years and pays for labor hours of his research team, who generally earn less than the private sector.

      You have also selected one of the most prominent scientists in the world and are using that as a counter claim that AGW researchers are rich? Something tells me this is a typical investigative inquiry for all things you don't like, lol. You can't be taken seriously.

      $300,000 a year salary sounds pretty rich to me. Certainly very affluent. Especially when you get to fly around to junkets and conferences and get all the nice health and retirement benefits that the State provides to administrators. So that salary doesn't even include the expense account and the benefits, nor does it include side money for giving speeches and publishing books (he has at least 3 commercial books that I'm aware of). So, yea, Mann has gotten rich off AGW alarmism, and he's not the only one.

      I mean, what does he even do to EARN that salary, all supplied by taxpayers? How is he contributing to the education of all those UVA students that are going into massive debt to be there?

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    19. Re:Typical enviro extremism by plopez · · Score: 1

      the majority of the world already lives in poverty so no real change.

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    20. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's science. We all benefit from the wealth of knowledge that scholarly articles from the academic world provide for us.

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    21. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Raisey-raison · · Score: 1

      I am always perplexed by left greens who procreate. Don't they realize that the most green thing they can do is simply to choose to not have children.

    22. Re:Typical enviro extremism by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I found a synonym for "overhead". It's "graft".

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    23. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Raisey-raison · · Score: 1

      As noted below in the comments, the study was done by the Eberswalde University for Sustainable Development. They have an agenda and will emphasize some things and ignore others to advance their agenda. This is not just neutral science. By not mentioning the benefits that roads bring to humankind it tries to imply that that are unnecessary. Yes of course there are costs to roads. But when you only research the costs and not the benefits you wreak of bias.

      The very name "sustainable development" has come to mean you are only interested in research from a specific perspective. It's a deep sociological bias. It would be like a physicist who would only publish problematic issues related to electricity and not the positive ones. Btw, are you a scientist? Do you know how the proverbial sausage os made. From personal experience I can tell you it's not pretty. They don't want any development (sustainable development implies there are some types they indorse but the phrasing is a deceit and a firm of propoganda) and because of their type we have rising housing costs all over the place especially in the UK. So instead of "berating" try looking at yourself.

    24. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the posting here and the summary is nothing more than trolling. Very successful trolling.

      The headline could have said "roads split ecosystems..." instead of using the very negative phrase 'shatter the earth'. It was intended to provoke exactly the response you are railing against.

    25. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Raisey-raison · · Score: 1

      the majority of the world already lives in poverty so no real change.

      No, India and China are much better off compared with 25 years ago. Africa has taken off since 2000 and is starting to experience a meaningful rise in living standards. And nihilist attitudes prevent progress.

    26. Re:Typical enviro extremism by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Do you even know how Slashdot works? Users submit articles, articles that are always going to reflect the submitters biases to some degree. If only some submitters submit stories, that is what we get. If you want to counteract those biases, submit stories that reflect your bias. The greater variety of stories we get, the better.

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
    27. Re:Typical enviro extremism by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      policies that promote endless population growth (which are necessary to sustain our current economic models)

      That is a common and erroneous claim. Those who want population growth usually want it for religious reasons or for cannon fodder. Those who want economic growth want it because it accompanies a higher standard of living.

      Raising children is a heavy economic burden that depresses the economy for the time it takes to raise them. Most politicians aren't willing to wait 20 years. Government policies that affect population growth (China excepted) are either unintended consequences of other policies (like welfare promoting children among unwed women) or genocide (like policies promoted by Planned Parenthood.)

      Government policies claimed to promote economic growth are generally wrong-minded and ignorant. Claiming that those policies will result in, or depend upon, population growth is mistaken.

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    28. Re:Typical enviro extremism by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Unless you have a reasonable alternative you cannot complain.

      In some places they have under-passes designed specifically for wildlife to go through. That seems like a solution that can be employed without destroying civilization.

      Between the extremes, try to look for a middle-ground solution. Usually you'll find it.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    29. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, there is a plan to create massive no-go areas around the planet. They are described and there was a sample map of how it would work attached to the 1992 Agenda 21 agreement signed onto by just about every country on Earth. Google up the Doom Map of the United States to see how it would work. The little black squares in a few places where there are large human populations already are the Human Reserves. Most of the rest of the map has been turned back into wild areas to create a sustainable animal friendly environment and these are joined together by wide channels of wild area. These areas are not allowed to have any human activity. Some other areas are allowed to have some human activity, likely for the growing of food crops, but you are not allowed to have large human settlements there.

    30. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The summary didn't make any judgement of you or anyone else either. It listed a variety of problems caused by roads -- and that's it. If you feel personally slighted by the list, that's your problem.

      The intention of articles such as this is clearly to make people feel bad about... well, their existence, really.

      No, it isn't. And there is something seriously wrong with the psyche of anyone who reads a scientific article and that is what they pull out of it.

      The article reported on a scientific paper, and that is all. Stop trying to "read between the lines" on everything to pick out intentions that are not there. You only wind up reinforcing your own prejudices.

      Yaz

      Yours is virtually the same argument made by Ted Kazinski. "When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem."
      [source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski#Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future]

      The truth is that the article in Science "just lists a variety of problems caused by roads" in the same sense that Kazinski's manifesto on "Industrial Society and its Future" just lists problems with modern technological society. The article was intended to influence people in politics and action. Calling it just a scientific attempt at being informative is disingenuous.

    31. Re:Typical enviro extremism by arth1 · · Score: 2

      The headline could have said "roads split ecosystems..." instead of using the very negative phrase 'shatter the earth'. It was intended to provoke exactly the response you are railing against.

      No, it was a very descriptive phrase. You're the one putting emotions into it.
      What does it look like when you shatter something? That's exactly what it looks like. There's nothing negative about that. it's descriptive.

    32. Re:Typical enviro extremism by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Do you really not understand how this is left-wing environmentalist misanthropism?

      Which doesn't preclude it from being truth.

      Can you reference any studies that came to opposite conclusions?

    33. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not as many hits if a headline just says "Roads partition the Earth". It's just good business.

    34. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you really so thoroughly insecure that, to you, a scientific paper describing one of the downsides of an aspect of civilisation (while also mentioning its upsides) can *only* be interpreted as "full of hate"? An attempt to identify and suggest approaches to a problem caused by a thing you like, becomes a vicious attack on everyone you know?

      Roads *do* introduce many problems to nature, along with the many benefits they bring to humans. The paper's meaning seems very clear; roads can cause problems, so maybe we should look at ways to mitigate that, like international recognition and preservation of roadless areas. Yet somehow you twist this into a hate-filled attack on humanity? What kind of horrible world do you live in? It must be awful for you.

      I'm pretty sure that to most of us, environmentalism actually isn't a to-the-death ideological struggle between mutually-exclusive forces of Civilisation and Wilderness, but an attempt to balance the various goals of Health, Happiness, Biodiversity and Prosperity within a single global ecosphere.

    35. Re:Typical enviro extremism by Orgasmatron · · Score: 1

      So, your response to "Why is Slashdot so biased?" is that you didn't even read the piece being discussed. Brilliant!

      And now that you've been shamed into reading it, you are pretending that it doesn't say what it clearly says, and responding to things that no one said. Double brilliant!

      --
      See that "Preview" button?
  11. In other news... by surfdaddy · · Score: 1

    ... the human species is responsible for devastation across all ecosystems on the planet. Over 7 billion of these creatures are multiplying like a cancer. They consume vast quantities of resources, they destroy ecosystems. There is plastic waste in the ocean, overfishing which is decimating the fish population, pollution of ecosystems, and radiocative waste from nuclear bombs and powerplant accidents. And new humans begat even more of these damaging beasts.

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The largest tumors are in India and China. People in the middle east are also pretty happy to churn kids out rapidly.
      Feel free to tell them to dial it back. Once you've done that, maybe then you can start lecturing people in the west.

      Hippies breed too, soooooo...

    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. We're an extinction-level event in the planet's history.

  12. And here's today's proof by Kohath · · Score: 0

    that environmentalists don't care about what's good for people.

    1. Re:And here's today's proof by chromaexcursion · · Score: 2

      You kind of left out a word. It would rephrase to two words:
      environmental extremists.
      With that addition, I agree wholeheartedly.
      But then, most extremism is bad for most people.

      Most environmentalist are very concerned for what's good for people.

    2. Re:And here's today's proof by SJ · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... completely ignoring the fact that people need the environment to survive. We need air, plants/animals and water. They don't need us.

    3. Re:And here's today's proof by mysidia · · Score: 1

      You kind of left out a word. It would rephrase to two words: - environmental extremists.

      Environmental "extremists "are influential however, and their ideas are likely to take hold with all.
      Especially with environmentalism; yesterday's extreme is tomorrow's everyday normal.
      Thus they're not really extremists ----- that's just the temporary status of some, while the rest of the environmentalists
      catch up with them.

      Look how Global Warming theory progressed?

      Not only did the idea and its proponents shift over 15 years from extremists to "mainstream" status the idea that humans need to sacrifice industry and cars "To save the planet",
      but now research into the subject is itself a multi-billion$$$ market.

      Also, this concept called "scientific consensus" has been invented

      Which is essentially means extremists can get together as a group and certify their own results, as when enough extremists get together it automatically becomes normal and infallible.

      Thus the "environmental extremists" have a way of grouping together and becoming just environmentalists,
      and making other environmentalists more closely match their ideas and philosophies.

    4. Re:And here's today's proof by Kohath · · Score: 1

      People also need roads to survive. People don't need any type of roadless environment.

      As for animals and plants, when they start to show empathy for us, they'll have earned our empathy in return. (You may worship them as you wish, of course.)

    5. Re:And here's today's proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we didn't need roads, we'd be more advanced and better for it.

      Nice scary fallacy though.

      Captcha: allocate

    6. Re:And here's today's proof by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      that environmentalists don't care about what's good for people.

      Actually they do, which is kind of the point of environmentalism, ensuring that people can continue to use the earth as they have done in the past.

      People don't care about what's good for people.

    7. Re:And here's today's proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exhaust fumes are good for people?

    8. Re:And here's today's proof by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      If people would need roads to survive, they would have evolved wheels instead of legs.

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    9. Re:And here's today's proof by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Roadless regions are the most primitive and impoverished on earth. You appear to be hypothesizing a fantasyland where everyone rides pink flying unicorns.

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  13. too bad nothing goes under or over by epine · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Too bad nothing goes under or over, that would shatter this stupid story title.

    1. Re:too bad nothing goes under or over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad you're a fucking moron and can't grasp the concept that most animals can't dig under roads, and the ones that go over get hit by vehicles IF they can get past the fences and barriers that we line our roads with. And people like you are too fucking self-centered and cheap to build the proper byways for animals to utilize because, to you, humans are the most important fucking thing in the whole universe.

    2. Re: too bad nothing goes under or over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans are the most import things on this planet. In the universe? Not so much. Humans have the power to destroy this planet. We now posses the power to alter the DNA of other living creatures on this planet. We also can't survive if we don't preserve the planet and take care of the plants and animals we have left.

    3. Re:too bad nothing goes under or over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever argument you tried to make was lost when you started and ended it with personal attacks. Nobody will take you seriously.

  14. Re:"roads trigger the construction of further road by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    roads are triggering.. roads cause ptsd.. roads need trigger warnings.

  15. It Gets Worse by JimSadler · · Score: 0, Troll

    Building roads generates an endless need to build even more roads. Roads eliminate trees and animal life as do roof tops. It all points to the same issue. We must limit births in all nations. Almost all of our serious issues are simply due to excessive reproduction. And again, forced birth control is not a topic that any politician dare mention. Further, the way our economic systems work if population does not grow poverty increases.

    1. Re: It Gets Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, obviously, there are self-appointed experts eager to choose who is allowed to breed. Marvelous!

    2. Re:It Gets Worse by PPH · · Score: 2

      This is something that a 100 meter rise in the sea level will solve quite easily.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    3. Re: It Gets Worse by arth1 · · Score: 1

      And, obviously, there are self-appointed experts eager to choose who is allowed to breed. Marvelous!

      It can be randomized.
      Or we can let nature choose by measures like banning childhood medicine for everyone.

    4. Re: It Gets Worse by mysidia · · Score: 1

      And, obviously, there are self-appointed experts eager to choose who is allowed to breed. Marvelous!

      Why don't we just do a fitness test instead of appointing experts?

      Pool the limited number of "breeding tokens" and use a volley of competitive strategy games to eliminate people from being awarded a token;
      starting with ---- Must score 100,000 points on Tetris within 3 attempts.

      Next competitive Warcraft II, Civilization, then Chess, Scrabble, Scotland Yard, Acquire, Shogun , Chutes and Ladders, Euphoria, Amerigo, Go, Stratego, Carcassonne, Takenoko, Chronology, Ticket to Ride, Clue, Agricola, and Monopoly.

      Each breeding candidate (Both Females and Males must have qualified for breeding) must choose ....

      Entry Fee: All candidates pay a $100 entry fee, it shall be illegal for any 3rd party to pay, gift, or otherwise provide entry fee in support a candidate in paying.
      The expense is non-deductible, and breeding candidates will be subject to a financial audit at their expense to prove personal ability to pay derived from candidate's own labor. Candidates without thorough records of all finances or who use primary cash or under-the-table deals to transact are ineligible.

      Options (C), (D), (E), and (F) require an additional $2000 entry fee the first time to pay for administration of fitness tests.
      Most breeding candidates will want option (A) or (B).

      Option (A) Lottery -- 10% of the government quota of allowed annual breeding events will be available through this option, when supplies run out, successful candidates will be in a waiting list --- Candidates will purchase lottery tickets for $1 each. They must choose 6 numbers between 1 and 60, which will be drawn randomly by a ball machine with an equal chance for each number. Candidates must get 5 numbers accurate to become a potential breeding candidate. Before the drawing, candidates will be given a randomized choice of 2 of the above games they must play against everyone who picked option (A), their tickets will be voided if they are not in the top 40th percentile. To demonstrate physical fitness, prospects will be given arm wrestling challenges with 5 other randomized breeding candidates, and those in less than the 40th percentile will be eliminated before the lottery drawing.

      Option (B) Fight to the death -- 40% of the government quota of allowed annual breeding events will be available through this option --- Candidates will be given a choice of hand weapons and then placed in an arena. Each candidate will have to face off in 5 battles of life and death with randomized other Option B candidates, If the candidate surrenders or dies in battle they are eliminated. If they pass 5 battles, then they will pick two board games from the above list to demonstrate mental fitness and Play against 5 others who chose option (B), they must be in the top 40% of competitors.

      Option (C) Be judged upon performance in 16 of the above games --- 30% of the government quota of allowed annual breeding events will be available through this option ---- Must play each competitive games 5 times against 5 different randomized sets of other candidates who picked option (C) and be within the top 60th-percentile of Wins/Losses or Points earned for every game to avoid elimination, Next to demonstrate physical fitness, stand on a scale to be weighed and show a weight less than 200 pounds, then next bench press 400 pounds 3 reps, then immediately afterward a clock starts and you have 16 minutes to complete a 5K marathon, they will repeat the physical challenge 5 times, and must be successful at least 3 out of 5.

      Option (D) Start a profitable business or charity -- 10% of the government quota of allowed annual breeding events will be available through this option --- Demonstrate starting a business, or creating a profitable invention, and subject books to an independent auditor proving

    5. Re: It Gets Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing that extreme but we should be providing birth control to any women who wants it but can't afford it. If you can't afford birth control then you can't afford a new child. Oh and before you sexually repressed religious nut jobs scream "then don't have sex" if it weren't individuals natural desire to have sex none of us would be here. Literally. The desire to mate is built into our DNA and that isn't likely to change anytime soon so if your goal is to control the population and to help prevent low income families who can't afford and don't want more children then they already have from having more "then don't have sex" isn't a real solution. Birth control is.

    6. Re: It Gets Worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a Larry Niven story, all people would have one birthright. People could get a 2nd or 3rd birthright for being a genius or paying a lot of money. There would be gladitorial type games for people who wanted another birthright--the winner to get another birthright, and the loser loses their birthright...and their life.

      This allowed Earth, according to the story, to stabilize at 18 billion.

  16. When did Science start publishing the Unabomber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously it sounds an awful lot like his manifesto.

  17. Listen here Peter Parker by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

    Crap, crap, MEGA CRAP.

    --
    Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
  18. Re: "roads trigger the construction of further roa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So are you saying that the roads who built roads aren't human?

  19. Exactly who does this surprise? by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    I'm always hearing about cars hitting deers. In my neck of the woods it's cars hitting squirrels. Every couple years there is a big media splash about how we're spending millions so wildlife can take underground tunnels and not turn into roadkill on a 70 mph road. Keep in mind, this is where squirrels are the issue.

    So who is surprised wildlife habitat has been divided into x times 1000 little bitty chunks, each too small to support the wildlife?

    Too many people, not enough land.


    I'm getting to hate /,, preferring soylent Why should I have to \br\ when I want a paragraph break?

    1. Re:Exactly who does this surprise? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      I'm always hearing about cars hitting deers. In my neck of the woods it's cars hitting squirrels.

      Maybe in your neck of the woods. I-70 in Pennsylvania has those Jersey barriers running all up and down the road, with no gaps or dips or anything.

      One night at 4 AM I was driving down I-70 and right after a blind curve my headlights fell across a herd of deer in the middle of the freeway, all trying to figure out how to get past this stupid concrete barrier that's too high for deer to jump over. So of course I find myself slamming on the brakes and swerving the car through a wild stampede at about 50 mph. The car slammed into one of them. It rolled up the left side of the windshield and landed on the asphalt behind the car, like a soon-to-be-converted atheist in a Christian movie.

      I pulled over, and was trying to figure out WTF to do, with an injured deer lying in the middle of I-70 struggling to move around. A minute later a beat up Ford F-150 came down the road, swerved around this deer, skidded around, and managed to come to a stop on the shoulder.

      A scary-looking old dude jumped out of the car and ran over to me and this deer. He said its leg was broken and it was going to die anyway. Then he said he had a tire iron in the truck.

      He fetched it and came back. As he approached, it was still wriggling around on the road and glaring at this old haggard dude, like Hank Schraeder in his last Breaking Bad episode. Then he bashed it in the head with the tire iron. It struggled to drag itself away and he bashed its skull again. Then it stopped moving.

      We both managed to drag the deer off the road just as a cop pulled over. We explained what happened, and he decided, "OK, I don't see anything I really have to write up here."

      All three of us ended up hauling the deer into the back of the guy's pickup. He must have been eating that thing for weeks.

      But I digress. Most roads don't have dividers and animals can make it across if they can avoid the cars. But roads that are set up like the Berlin Wall are a problem. Animals like deer are going to evolve into two species separated by I-70.

    2. Re:Exactly who does this surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ~1.5 million traffic accidents per year involving deer in the United States. 175-200 fatalities. Billions in damage. In this particular case the problem is not too many roads. In this particular case the problem is that there are too many deer. There is more than enough land to support healthy deer populations. Deer no longer have many predators in the United States. While the idea of letting OTHER natural predators return (such as cougars) is a solution some would like to explore, it is obvious why this idea might cause as many or more problems than it would solve.

      For any rational person the solution in this particular case is clear and rather simple, eat more venison.

  20. Did U say Fraking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Path has layers of rock(s). Just like the bible saying to build on the rock(Stable?).
    I think this article is talking about Fracking for oil. Fracking causes the ground to become unstable thus cracking all the rocks. Did U promote Fracking?
    Example:
    Around where my house is built has solid foundation with lots of rocks.
    If their was oil Fracking, then an Earth Quake will occur after the Fracking Operations.
    WAIT! An earth quake took place around areas of Fracking! What I want to know is, what happened after the Fracking Operations and the Earth Quake? Where all the houses, street, etc rebuilt? Where they relocated?

  21. Gosh! by goodmanj · · Score: 1

    This just in: Researchers report that 600,000 is a very big number that you should be super impressed by. That is all.

  22. Rewrite... by Dan+East · · Score: 2

    Researchers Find Roads Shatter the Earth's Surface Into 600,000 Fragments

    Loaded word presenting a non-neutral POV. Reword and try your submission again.

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    Better known as 318230.
  23. And soon the predators will become the prey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was a dark, blustery afternoon in spring, and the city of London was chasing a small mining town across the dried-out bed of the old North Sea.

    In happier times, London would never have bothered with such feeble prey. The great Traction City had once spent its days hunting far bigger towns than this, ranging north as far as the edge of the Ice Wastes and south to the shores of the Mediterranean. But lately prey of any kind had started to grow scarce, and some of the larger cities had begun to look hungrily at London. For ten years now it had been hiding from them, skulking in a damp, mountainous western district that the Guild of Historians said had once been the island of Britain. For ten years it had eaten nothing but tiny farming towns and static settlements in those wet hills. Now, at last, the Lord Mayor had decided that the time was right to take his city back over the land bridge into the Great Hunting Ground.

    It was barely halfway across when the lookouts on the high watchtowers spied the mining town, gnawing at the salt flats twenty miles ahead. To the people of London it seemed like a sign from the gods, and even the Lord Mayor (who didn't believe in gods or signs) thought it was a good beginning to the journey east, and issued the order to give chase.

    The mining town saw the danger and turned tail, but already the huge caterpillar tracks under London were starting to roll faster and faster. Soon the city was lumbering in hot pursuit, a moving mountain of metal that rose in seven tiers like the layers of a wedding cake, the lower levels wreathed in engine smoke, the villas of the rich gleaming white on the higher decks, and above it all the cross on top of St. Paul's Cathedral glinting gold, two thousand feet above the ruined earth.

    Tom was cleaning the exhibits in the London Museum's Natural History section when it started. He felt the telltale tremor in the metal floor, and looked up to find the model whales and dolphins that hung from the gallery roof swinging on their cables with soft creaking sounds.

    He wasn't alarmed. He had lived in London for all of his fifteen years, and he was used to its movements. He knew that the city was changing course and putting on speed. A prickle of excitement ran through him, the ancient thrill of the hunt that all Londoners shared. There must be prey in sight! Dropping his brushes and dusters, he pressed his hand to the wall, sensing the vibrations that came rippling up from the huge engine rooms down in the Gut. Yes, there it was—the deep throb of the auxiliary motors cutting in, boom, boom, boom, like a big drum beating inside his bones.

    The door at the far end of the gallery slammed open and Chudleigh Pomeroy came storming in, his toupee askew and his round face red with indignation. "What in the name of Quirke . . . ?" he blustered, gawking at the gyrating whales, and the stuffed birds jigging and twitching in their cases as if they were shaking off their long captivity and getting ready to take wing again. "Apprentice Natsworthy! What's going on here?"

    1. Re: And soon the predators will become the prey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell me I can find the rest of this story somewhere!

    2. Re:And soon the predators will become the prey. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Excellent. Though I did read "prickle of excitement" as "trickle of excrement" on the first pass.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re: And soon the predators will become the prey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tain't too hard. Google "Chudleigh Pomeroy". There cain't be two of 'em.

  24. The solution by PPH · · Score: 1

    Flying cars.

    Remember, you heard it here first.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  25. "contagious development" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also called building of communities, development of an area or economic activity. In Africa, where the roads are particularly scarce, this attitude towards planned development should be branded as "ecological imperialism." People die due to the poor connections and lack of roads. It doesn't mean there shouldn't be any animal crossings and bridges, however.

  26. So How Many Fragments From by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    The humans and vehicles running across the surface are there?

  27. Re:"roads trigger the construction of further road by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that roads are sentient? Apparently they reproduce...

  28. New cause: de-roading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Celebrities will advocate this for everyone who isn't them.

  29. presenceRoads Girdle The Globe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    XTC
    Roads Girdle The Globe

    Am I asleep or am I fast
    Your every race
    You first, you last

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe
    Hail mother motor, hail piston rotor, hail wheel
    Roads girdle the globe

    Am I tied in or do I turn
    Your holy incense
    You tyre burn

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe
    Hail mother motor, hail piston rotor, hail wheel
    Roads girdle the globe

    Steel Radial
    Steel Radial
    Steel Radial

    Am I get there
    When is A, B
    Your iron, oil and steel
    [Incomprehensible]

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe

    Roads girdle the globe
    We safe in your concrete robe
    Hail mother motor, hail piston rotor, hail wheel

    Hail mother motor, hail piston rotor, hail wheel
    Hail mother motor, hail piston rotor, hail wheel

    Songwriters
    A. PARTRIDGE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1JZCCeVzn0

  30. Click-whore by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 1

    Click-whores gets fucked in the ass, after they die.
    The rest of us go to heaven.

  31. not a problem ! by swell · · Score: 1

    According to this, um, 1950s Popular Science magazine we will have flying cars any day now. Problem solved, no need for those pesky roads all over the place.

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  32. Deer crossings by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    They need to stop putting deer crossings in places with high traffic.

  33. Bullshit - Pardon my french by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    The roads they are talking about are not in metropolitan centers. If plants before "man" can transverse from Europe and Asia to the the Americas then I doubt a simple two lane "road" is going to stop nature.

  34. Never miss an opportunity to spread alarmist crap by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 0

    The vast majority of the 'roads' in the study are the little two-laners that twine everywhere, but have no effect on ecosystems other than to limit the spread of wildfires. An ecosystem is disturbed when a major, fenced-off highway carries a lot of traffic, and as the article admits the primary impact is the human population the road brings, rather than the road itself.. Around here the perennial debate is, do we fence off the rural Interstate as the construction standard specifies or do we let elk and coyotes roam freely across it, accepting that a few will be killed?

  35. Forget roads, time to split BEAVERS wide open !! by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If anyone should examine a topo map of North America and give a reasonable estimate as to which major land contours, lake systems and other land features were either caused (or prevented) by the specific actions of BEAVERS, the rodents would be singled out in an IPCC report as a major cause of 'climate change', exposed by CNN, trash-talked on The View, sold bogus 'log pullers', and hunted down near extinction. We could begin by interesting Europeans in beaver pelt clothing...

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    <blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
  36. Re:Never miss an opportunity to spread alarmist cr by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    > but have no effect on ecosystems other than to limit the spread of wildfires

    This claim is not well founded, I'm afraid. Even the most casual look at Google shows thousands of well written articles on the difficulty, and many well researched scientific papers on obvious and subtle effects. Slower moving animals like snakes and turtles are devastated by roads, and can lose genetic diversity because they can't safely cross roads to cross breed with even nearby habitats. And animals that need to migrate due to winter or due to local food depletion often have profound difficulty finding safe and effective ways past piles of fenced in highway.

  37. Consider the source by tomhath · · Score: 1

    The study was done by researchers from the Eberswalde University for Sustainable Development. What would you expect their conclusion to be?

  38. the kiddies have no future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The kiddies are bored, they have no life, they have no purpose, and so they rub it to a nub and then what? They get angry and tagged at the world. But with their inadequate damaged brains this is the best that they can do. Until they get done beating of one more time, at which time the tears of three children flow again and another diatribe of spewing vomit is ejaculated once more.

  39. Tree Higgers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet you'll vote next time Tree Huggers!!

    - The Donald

  40. The story of Hugh Pine by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    https://www.goodreads.com/book...
    "Hugh Pine, a porcupine genius, works with his human friends to save his less intelligent fellow porcupines from the deadly dangers of the road."

    Anyone who saw the video version of this on CBS Storybreak might remember the refrain: "Looks like it's gonna be a hot day today":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    More seriously, ecological and evolutionary theory (including island biography) shows how the size of a habitat and how habitats are connected affects the distribution and genetics of organisms in habitats, so habitat fragmentation has consequences.

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    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  41. Warp drives do the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which was kind of dumb in that it didn't cause any problems at kind earth

  42. "Shatter?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if the roads are "shattering" the Earth, is it going to fly off into space, into 600,000 fragments?

    If not, I believe the word would be "divide."