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Germany Threatens To Fine Facebook Over Hate Speech (go.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: German officials are stepping up their criticism of Facebook, saying the social network is doing too little to stop hate speech and could face stiff fines unless it deletes illegal content faster. In an interview published Friday, Justice Minister Heiko Maas said his ministry was checking whether it would be possible to make social networking sites legally liable for illegal posts. Germany has seen a sharp increase in vitriolic posts on social media in recent years amid a heated public debate over the influx of more than a million migrants since the start of 2015. The country has laws against speech deemed to be racist, defamatory or inciting violence -- a response to Germany's Nazi legacy. But authorities have struggled with the deluge of often anonymous postings on foreign-owned websites. Thomas Oppermann, a senior lawmaker in Maas' Social Democratic Party, told German weekly Der Spiegel that dominant social media sites like Facebook could be required to delete illegal posts within 24 hours or face fines up to 500,000 euros ($522,000). Facebook also could be compelled to distribute corrections that reach the same number of people as the original post, Oppermann suggested, something traditional media companies in Germany are already required to do.

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  1. Germany has way more problems than Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the influx of refugee's from Syria is causing a rebellion of the German people. Repressing it won't solve it.

    1. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by zuxun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Banning speech is never a good thing.

    2. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by aliquis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except the refugees ARE the problem.

      Here in Sweden we haven't got enough taxation to cover spending of the government or the municipalities right now and even then it's about 44% of GDP.
      An immigrant family with two children can receive $3000 / month AFTER TAXES with no work whatsoever.

      How many such families do you think it's ok to bring into Sweden?

      Germany grant more welfare than the US and Sweden grant more than Germany. That's why they come here. Too leech. Within the last day or two I heard about a teacher who had got his teeth punched out because the teacher was talking to a woman who was his wife. That's what you get with Muslims. Everyone else is no problem culturally but Muslims are and will be because their vile hate-ideology doesn't want them to adjust or accept our ways.

      Mexicans into the US would if not completely at-least to a higher degree be work immigration whereas our immigration are refugee/sponge immigration and Muslim colonization. The Mexicans unlikely will destroy the culture of the US I guess (vote democrats?), the Muslims will definitely destroy our culture.

      You can't compare the two.

      Also the number of refugees who came to Sweden was like 35 times as many / capita as to the US so yeah.. there's a volume difference. But the US system have a stronger freedom and democracy and robustness / conservatism in the system and have lower welfare and likely don't even open up for the trash we get here. Your system is better suited for it and you still don't bring in even close to as many.
      (Also US and allies like Saudi-Arabia and Turkey is what support the rebels and religious extremism in Syria and Iraq and it's the US who got rid of Gadaffi and Hussein and want to get rid of Assad too. You're part of the reason the genuine refugees even exist.)

    3. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      WTF are you talking about? Every normal german, who can think for themselves hates this cunt Merkel with passion. It's MSM that tells "everything is OK"

      Germans are sick of thi PC bull shit, countless rapes by muslim scum and so on.

      Fuck refugees! Fuck those jew assholes who are importing this scum to Europe.

    4. Re: Germany has way more problems than Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Smart people IGNORE the speech they do not like. Snowflakes try to force others into silence ----.

    5. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sweden should take ten times as may refugees as Saudi Arabia.

      Oh wait, it already did. When the first one landed.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    6. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To explain it to US readers, they're basically becoming Germany's Mexicans.

      The hard-working blue-collar engine of the economy? Good for y'all! Have they started opening up good Syrian restaurants, yet?

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      I don't respond to AC's.
    7. Re:Germany has way more problems than Facebook by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and the attacks have all been by people born in or living in Germany for a very long time.

      You don't get problematic second-generation immigrants (admittedly somewhat of a misnomer, but that's how it's commonly called) without having unproblematic first generation immigrants first.

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  2. Analogues by John+Allsup · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What if we made homeowners responsible for hateful graffiti scrawled on their house? Or pubs and cafes liable for what is discussed there?

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    John_Chalisque
    1. Re: Analogues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Graffiti is by definition against the wishes of the home owner, it's vandalism. If the owner allowed people to paint on their walls, and was indifferent to any hate speech written there, it would be a closer analogy. And if a pub was being used as a meeting place for racists and xenophobes, and they were broadcasting their hatred to other pub visitors, and the publicans did nothing about it for long periods of time, you can bet your ass they would be held responsible.

  3. Re: Double standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because Americans already dug their own hole by willingly submitting to the "free speech at any price" philosophy, whereas most other Western nations take a more pragmatic approach of limiting people's speech when it impinges on other's right to exist.

  4. What make it possibly for Germany to find Facebook by aliquis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    .. in the first place?
    It's an American country.

    What happen if Facebook simply says "fuck off"?

    Now the EU are banning (?) negative speak about refugees from the parties.
    But how is that even the problem? The problem is that our traitor government let these people in in the first place. We don't want them here. That's the scenario. Why are they brought in? EU, Germany and Sweden are the enemies of the European peoples and democracy.

  5. Oh Germany by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    In Germany it is illegal to "criticize" "immigrants". Put-in-jail illegal.

    Quotes intentional.

    Yes I'm posting anonymously.

  6. Ah, Deutschland! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having failed to force the sun to shine at night and the wind to blow constantly all the time, the German legal system is trying to force people to like a vast swarm of insurgents who arrived without visas and who are getting away with Allah knows what.

  7. /|\ DeVry MBA by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does any multinational do it? Because they have to have a registered presence in a country to do business there.

    This wouldn't apply if you're selling knitted toilet roll covers via spamazon and turning over 50 bucks a year in Portugal.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  8. Re:LOL Germany by moronoxyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Protip, German cluetards: Quite aside from the personal liberty issue you're blowing so badly here, it's always better to let the crazies sing, dance, speechify, and wear silly outfits. This way everyone knows who they are and you don't end up getting blindsided by some bastard(s) percolating in their own repressed hate for just a little too long.

    Yeah, right. Except, that's what we did in the 1920s: Lete everybody say everything they want. And that allowed extremists like Hitler to amass a strong following and take over the government and transform the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich.

    You know, there's a reason we changed our laws after WWI and then again after WWII: We learnt from our mistakes and are trying to not repeat them. Letting hate speech go unchecked is NOT the way to a less extrem society.