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Adobe Releases Flash Player 24 For Linux Four Years After the Last Major Update (bleepingcomputer.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Adobe released today Flash Player 24 for Linux, after previously abandoning the application without explanation in 2012. The NPAPI architecture of Flash Player for Linux is now on par with Windows and Mac releases on version 24, after spending the last few years stuck at version 11.2 and only receiving small patches and security fixes, but no new features. Today's Flash Player 24 for Linux release comes after Adobe teased its release on August 31, and later released a Beta version (v23) in October. Despite updating Flash Player for Linux to the same version number as its Windows and Mac alternatives, the Linux variant still lags behind on features. While Flash Player 24 includes all the security features included in the Windows and Mac versions, the Linux version doesn't support accelerated GPU 3D acceleration and video DRMs. If users need these features, Adobe says users should use Chrome for Linux, where Google's own port, the Pepper Flash plugin (PPAPI architecture) supports them.

88 comments

  1. no 3d, no drm by sirber · · Score: 2

    most user uses chrome which has flash and will ditch it soon. why release that?

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    1. Re:no 3d, no drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uphold the appearance that flash is still around? or just fucking with the iDevice users?

    2. Re:no 3d, no drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably a combination of two reasons: desperation to hold on to market share (hence why they offer a Linux version at all) and maintaining two versions so drastically divergent became too difficult.

    3. Re:no 3d, no drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will be the final Flash version for Legacy use going forward.

    4. Re: no 3d, no drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A 4 year hiatus hardly counts as "maintaining."

    5. Re:no 3d, no drm by Humbubba · · Score: 1
      sirber said

      most user uses chrome which has flash and will ditch it soon. why release that?

      I think you're right, Flash has a limited shelf life. But Adobe is releasing the Flash Player for Linux anyway because Linux has become an essential part of the computing playing field. For example, Linux is on Azure, and some of Microsoft's most powerful tools are on Linux, like SQL Server, and .NET. At this point, Linux can't be neglected.

      Besides, I don't think the general public is the user base Adobe is responding to. Adobe is releasing the Flash Player because business want it. Companies have invested in the Flash ecosystem, with Flash developers and products, clients and who knows what else. I bet some are reluctant to move their old stalwarts off the Flash platform. Coupled with Flash's limited shelf life, the "no 3D, no DRM" stuff kind of supports this idea.

    6. Re:no 3d, no drm by donaldm · · Score: 1

      most user uses chrome which has flash and will ditch it soon. why release that?

      True, but if you have a Flash video (ie *.flv) you could always use VLC or MPV to play them.

      Of course, if you don't like flash videos in their raw format you could use HandBreak to transcode them, although a word of warning, HandBreak is really CPU intensive so you would be better off with a decent one unless you don't mind the wait.

      For most Linux distributions you can download the players or transcoder by using their respective repository allowing them to be automatically maintained. Also for your interest, all the software named does support 8bit, 10bit, 12bit as well as the H254 and H265 codecs including other formats.

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    7. Re: no 3d, no drm by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      A 4 year hiatus hardly counts as "maintaining."

      They didn't port features within those years, but they sometimes ported bug/security fixes.

  2. Four years isn't so bad. by geekmux · · Score: 1

    I mean, it's not like Flash is one of the most widely used channels of attack across the entire spectrum of malwar, oh wait...

    Shit.

    Nevermind.

  3. Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since HTML5 video, games are the only remaining valid use of Flash, but I haven't played a flash game in the past 6 years.

    Flash is dead. Let it go.

    -Linux as primary desktop OS user for the past 6 years.

    1. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'll let it go when HTML5 hardware decodes video. Until then, flash it is. You must really enjoy 100% CPU usage on videos.

    2. Re:Do not want by r1348 · · Score: 2

      It already does that, at least for h264. VP9 is accelerated only on Intel I believe.

    3. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VP9 is accelerated only on Intel I believe.

      NVIDIA, AMD, ARM, Qualcomm, and others support accelerated VP9 decoding as well.

  4. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The last reason I had to stay on Windows is now gone. May the year of Linux on the desktop begin!

    1. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could have used freshplayer and had new flash in firefox this whole time.

    2. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite: but I think native systemd support will be along shortly.

  5. Homestar Runner, here I come! by mekkab · · Score: 2

    Allright! Can't wait to get at all that brand new flash content!

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    1. Re:Homestar Runner, here I come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do anything... on Zombo.com.

    2. Re:Homestar Runner, here I come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. Even HTML5.

  6. Windows Whatever and OSX Are The Only OSes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like more of the same...

    Dear Users of Linux, *BSD, and other Operating Systems; Go fuck yourselves. Sincerely, Adobe

    1. Re:Windows Whatever and OSX Are The Only OSes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the fact that the number of artists and designers using Linux is somewhere around seven, I can't say I blame them, to be honest.

  7. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by Octorian · · Score: 1

    Considering that everyone keeps acting like Flash is no longer required or relevant or should be cared about...

    Oh wait, every other website across the ENTIRE INTERNET still seems to at least attempt to use Flash. Seriously, turn on Firefox's plugin prompting setting and just try browsing the web.

    At least most of them no longer break if you are missing the plugin, or don't let it run. But they still try.

  8. Chromium Pepper Flash does not have DRM Support. by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Chromium Pepper Flash for Linux does not have DRM Support either. The only way to get DRM support for Pepper Flash is to get it from an image for an x86_64 Chromebook, or use PipeLight But Pepper Flash does support 3-D.

  9. About fucking time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The number of IT applications that I've had to revert to a windows VM for is absurd. The most irritating? vCenter.

    1. Re:About fucking time. by HuguesT · · Score: 1

      Does not compute. vcenter server appliance is a Linux virtual machine running on ESXi, which you access through a web browser. Using a Windows VM for that is definitely not required.

    2. Re:About fucking time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      access through a web browser

      that must have a version of flash that was newer than the newest version released for Linux

    3. Re:About fucking time. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

      Does not compute. vcenter server appliance is a Linux virtual machine running on ESXi, which you access through a web browser. Using a Windows VM for that is definitely not required.

      Now guess what plug-in you need(*) for the web browser so you can manage vCenter, Yeah, it's fucking Flash. (*) Well, to be fair, they announced "The vSphere Web Client of Tomorrow" that works with HTML 5,

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    4. Re:About fucking time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doh. Go back to youtube, noob.

    5. Re:About fucking time. by buchanmilne · · Score: 1

      access through a web browser

      that must have a version of flash that was newer than the newest version released for Linux

      No, it works with Chrome on Linux. At least it worked for me this morning accessing a 5.5 vSphere Web Client.

      (I haven't tried firefox with Flash 24, but there are a number of sites I need that needed a newer version of Flash, and in many cases the version shipped with Chrome works).

  10. Had to google it by dr.Flake · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whats up with those dumb editors on slashdot. Can't they just explain what this stuff is??
    Not everybody around here just happens to know what this "Flash" is (catchy name BTW)

    According to wikipedia it is some type of programming language mostly used for animations and online games.
    Apparently it was quickly abused by millions of hackers and douchy advertising lowlifes so it quickly became obsolete for a large part of western civilization.

    Good to see all those bright people sticking with their dream to make something great and still updating this old stuff.

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    1. Re:Had to google it by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Can you think of another onomatopoeic word that ends in "sh"?

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    2. Re:Had to google it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crash? Slosh? Smoosh? Swish?

    3. Re:Had to google it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bash?

    4. Re:Had to google it by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Whats up with those dumb editors on slashdot. Can't they just explain what this [flash] stuff is??

      You do not know what Flash is? You are either very lucky, or very young :-)

    5. Re:Had to google it by hawk · · Score: 1

      Or maybe he doesn't know to stay away from men whose bare legs stick out below their trenchcoats . . . :)

      hawk

  11. NPAPI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't NPAPI deprecated for a while already?
    If so, what is the point of this "update"?

    1. Re:NPAPI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Adobe's eyes. Users still use it.

  12. And nobody installs it. Please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Flash needs to die.

  13. Dead by alvieboy · · Score: 1

    Flash is dead.
    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

    1. Re:Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it is not. Anyone who has to work with vCenter needs it.

    2. Re:Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GORDON'S ALIVE?!

  14. Re:Chromium Pepper Flash does not have DRM Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why bother? If you cannot prevent yourself from consuming Flash based content, just use regular Chrome from google's repo.

  15. And now for acrobat reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still on version 9...

  16. Just die already. by forgottenusername · · Score: 2

    Dear proprietary, bloated malware attack vector from hell; foad. No one wants you. Your parents hate you. Your girlfriend became a lesbian after seeing you naked. You are a stinking pustule, a soon to be forgotten constant annoyance with your privacy violations, supercookies, security flaws and general worthlessness. Please take Adobe with you.

    1. Re:Just die already. by lucasnate1 · · Score: 0

      In the past at least, lots of artists wanted flash, because no one provided an easy alternative to do light bandwidth vector animation. Today I see people watching flash videos as youtube videos, with more lag than the originals had on old connections. While I agree that flash had tons of security problems, it did fulfill a need.

    2. Re:Just die already. by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      In the past at least, lots of artists wanted flash, because no one provided an easy alternative to do light bandwidth vector animation. Today I see people watching flash videos as youtube videos, with more lag than the originals had on old connections. While I agree that flash had tons of security problems, it did fulfill a need.

      Given its original purpose was an animation tool, that makes sense. It wasn't until all the interactivity to make games/websites that it became a problem.

    3. Re:Just die already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about getting the application developers to move off of it before killing it off?

    4. Re:Just die already. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      How about getting the application developers to move off of it before killing it off?

      How about letting the flash application developers rot in a special corner of hell?

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    5. Re:Just die already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deal!

  17. Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most porn now uses HTML5 stuff.

  18. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by rrohbeck · · Score: 2

    Uninstall Flash and you won't see much difference. Practically all sites have HTML5 players now.

  19. One possible explanation by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    is that they got tired of backporting security fixes and decided to sync codebases instead.

    1. Re:One possible explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another possible explanation is that what's happening now is similar to plants growing fruit heavily shortly before they die.

  20. Users don't need DRM by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and video DRMs. If users need these features

    No user needs the feature that is DRM.

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    1. Re:Users don't need DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That must be why nobody uses premium streaming media services like Netflix or Spotify.

    2. Re:Users don't need DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netflix doesn't use Flash.

    3. Re: Users don't need DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it does use DRM, which was the topic.

    4. Re: Users don't need DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is with the word "need". It controls the conversation and muddles the problem.

    5. Re:Users don't need DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, what they need is deDRM...

  21. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are few times when I enable flash to view vidoes, most of the time flash is only used for unwanted crap or trivial functionality like copy to clipboard (github, 10minutemail)

  22. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    exactly

  23. Like keeping a brain-dead paint on life support by LostMonk · · Score: 1

    Just let it die already and end his (our) misery.

  24. drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    drm can be needed for some sites firefox has a decent solution and chrome for anything else that supports flash there is hal.

    html5 is greate but not for protected streams there are still good options though for cord cutters like kodi for a better experience than a browser.

  25. PPAPI architecture by Stingray454 · · Score: 1

    If you're wondering, this stands for Pen Pineapple Apple Pen Internals.

  26. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by r1348 · · Score: 1

    They did keep it updated with security patches, it's just that the version never moved on from 11.2

  27. Great... can they do the same for Acrobat? by mark-t · · Score: 2

    acrobat reader is the only pdf reader I've used that supports complex pdfs with embedded scripting... I don't have many pdfs that require this, but I do have a few, and no pdf reader other than Acrobat supports them.

    Also, Acrobat was the only reader I've ever used that had a facility to print in "booklet" mode, which was kind of nice for printing out things like product instruction manuals.

  28. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by corychristison · · Score: 1

    About the only thing I find it useful for is Spotify, but that's really only as I'm looking for new music.

    I'll download/buy it and play it locally on my machine after I'm done looking for new stuff.

    Other than that I dont really know what else I use that actually requires it these days. I can do without Spotify. It just has a really large collection of all kinds of music, so its easy.

  29. 6 days old "news"... by rklrkl · · Score: 1

    Er, no, Adode didn't release Flash 24 for Linux on 19th Dec, it was actually 6 days earlier than that. Heck, I even picked it up on my CentOS 7 system on 15th Dec via their convenient repo. I guess after 4.5 years of version stagnation, being almost a week late with the story might be expected...

  30. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    every other website across the ENTIRE INTERNET still seems to at least attempt to use Flash

    Are you on the same internet I am? I rarely hit flash sites now. The streaming sites seem to have almost all made the mode to html5. I get occasional complaints from my kid about flash game sites not working, and that seems to be it. Some crappy games, a few crappy web sites, that's all that is left. Flash menus are pretty much completely gone, thanks for that.

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  31. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with Spotify admins?

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  32. PPAPI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a pineapple, I have a pen, pineapple pen api.

  33. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by zixxt · · Score: 1

    Html5 video is slower than Flash video on my systems. YMMV

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  34. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by zixxt · · Score: 1

    I mean, it's not like Flash is one of the most widely used channels of attack across the entire spectrum of malwar, oh wait...

    Shit.

    Nevermind.

    NPAPI Flash on Linux has always been updated getting updates nearly 6 to 10 times a year for the past few years. And its not like there not attacks on HTML and JS, more prone to malware suring with JS and using HTML than using flash.

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  35. After all these years by Trogre · · Score: 1

    It still doesn't support any useful options, for example the ability to globally set Rendering Quality to "medium" or "low" so the obscene super-sampling algorithm doesn't bring a modern system to its knees..

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  36. This is NOT on a par with Flash for Mac by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Flash for OS X has to be updated every time we use it, just like that ever-popular companion product for Windows, Adobe Reader.

  37. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by hawk · · Score: 1

    The linux version won't have *true* parity until it can host a remote privilege escalation to root . . .

    hawk

  38. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by adolf · · Score: 1

    Spotify needs DRM to keep their streams from being perfectly ripped.

    DRM and open-source are somewhat incompatible.

    It's not a Spotify problem, but a reality problem.

  39. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hardeehar

  40. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by gravewax · · Score: 1

    at least the html5 video is slightly less likely to also come with a malicious payload.

  41. Using Flash as a fake news filter by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

    I'll continue to run my internet access computer with Ubuntu without Flash.

    On a daily basis I scan Yahoo News, Google News, Slashdot, and several other news aggregators to try to keep up with the world, while avoiding getting sucked into any echo chambers or news bubbles. That means I see stories from a hundred or more different web sites over a week's time. If a story depends on a Flash component, then I am comfortable in blowing it off without reading it, since it is certain that if there was any real content, that story will be carried by another, more legitimate, website.

    The presence of a notice that I must have Flash installed to see their precious content means, to me, that all that website is pushing is dross. It takes maybe a second to read that and push the "delete tab" key.

  42. That's it by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

    Slosh! Brilliant. A portmanteau of Slashdot and whoosh, and it humorously implies the sound of a pliable object as it strikes water in a deep porcelain vessel.

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  43. Mustard after a meal by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

    too late.

  44. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Spotify needs DRM to keep their streams from being perfectly ripped. DRM and open-source are somewhat incompatible. It's not a Spotify problem, but a reality problem.

    Any perception of reality that leads them to conclude that Flash is the correct solution would indicate a severe issue with mental competence.

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  45. Re:Four years isn't so bad. by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    at least the html5 video is slightly less likely to also come with a malicious payload.

    Yeah, but it's damned hard to block, unlike Flash which was 100% blocked if I didn't have a Flash plugin or used a blocker.

  46. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    Any perception of reality that leads them to conclude that Flash is the correct solution would indicate a severe issue with mental competence.

    "Fine, FINE!!! We'll move to Silverlight then."

  47. Re: Four years isn't so bad. by adolf · · Score: 1

    Yeah. Exactly.

    There's options here, and one of them is definitely the worst.

    (Off tomorrow to troubleshoot a camera system that uses Silverlight for its only interface. Yes, really: A local Silverlight application. There are no words.)

  48. Let's kill Flash for good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, we need to move on and go all HTML5. Flash has been a pain in our side for YEARS. Adobe sucks, and we all know it.