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Using Multiple Social Networks May Lead To Depression and Anxiety, Says Study (dailydot.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Daily Dot: The more social media you use, the higher the likelihood that you'll be anxious or depressed. At least according to the University of Pittsburgh Center for Research on Media, Technology and Health. In a study published online this month with more than 1,700 millennial adults, it found people who report using seven to 11 social media platforms had more than three times the risk of depression or anxiety than millennials who use zero to two platforms. The participants were asked about the most popular social media platforms in 2014, the year the study was conducted, which included Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Google Plus, Instagram, Snapchat, Reddit, Tumblr, Pinterest, Vine, and LinkedIn. Those who used more than seven platforms showed higher levels of depressive symptoms, even when researchers controlled for factors like race, gender, relationship status, household income, education, and total time spent on social media. Brian A. Primack, lead author of the study, notes that the correlation is not certain. He told PsyPost: "It may be that people who suffer from symptoms of depression or anxiety, or both, tend to subsequently use a broader range of social media outlets. For example, they may be searching out multiple avenues for a setting that feels comfortable and accepting. However, it could also be that trying to maintain a presence on multiple platforms may actually lead to depression and anxiety. More research will be needed to tease that apart."

119 comments

  1. causality by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >"it found people who report using seven to 11 social media platforms had more than three times the risk of depression or anxiety than millennials who use zero to two platforms"

    Oooh, an opportunity for one of my favorite sayings...

        Correlation does not imply causation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Perhaps people who are depressed and anxious seek out more social media.

    1. Re:causality by geekmux · · Score: 0, Troll

      >"it found people who report using seven to 11 social media platforms had more than three times the risk of depression or anxiety than millennials who use zero to two platforms"

      Oooh, an opportunity for one of my favorite sayings...

      Correlation does not imply causation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Perhaps people who are depressed and anxious seek out more social media.

      Let's try this again.

      The 99% who follow the elite 1% who champion the narcissistic fuck out of social media platforms are depressed as shit thinking about how droll their lives are.

      Of course, correlation does not imply causation, so naturally all studies and theories (including ours) are immediately excused as total and complete fabricated bullshit.

    2. Re:causality by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Of course, correlation does not imply causation, so naturally all studies and theories (including ours) are immediately excused as total and complete fabricated bullshit.

      Nonsense. Observed correlation does not imply causation, but it often indicates it. So, although no one should conclude from this that social media activity causes depression, it does point in that direction. The true test is a controlled experiment that assigns people randomly to either activity on many sites, or limits them to just one, or maybe none. In a properly conducted controlled study, correlation certainly does imply correlation.

    3. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there is a lot more negative things in the news then positive (bad news makes for good ratings), so the more media you read the more negative things you learn about, and that causes you to be depressed.

      And here is a good saying

      Ignorance is bliss.

    4. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      A few years ago, I decided to go on Facebook and look up people I went to high school with.

      All the hot girls are now old, fat, grandmothers.

      It certainly depressed the fuck out of me.

    5. Re:causality by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All the hot girls are now old, fat, grandmothers.

      There's at least one girl I went to high school with who's really held up. One, (I swear to god I'm not making this up) was a stripper for a while and then got a PhD and is now the chair of a sociology department at some small university in California. She looks like she could still get up on that pole after having a couple of cocktails. Back in high school, she was one of them freckle bitches and couldn't get a date for the prom. I ran into her a couple of years later and she was smoking hot. I kicked myself for not being nicer to her back in junior year. She signed my yearbook with a heart. The hot girl that I took to the prom has indeed turned into a fat old grandma. This is why you should teach your sons to be nice to all the girls in school, because you never know who's gonna turn out to be fine as cherry wine.

      I don't know why I'm telling you this. Maybe because I can't post it on Facebook because she'll see it, and anyway I'm too drunk to manage the two-step authentication that I set up for just this kind of situation.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    6. Re:causality by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      "Most of the cats that you meet on the streets speak of true love,
      Most of the time they're sittin' and cryin' at home
      One of these days they know they better get goin'
      Out of the door and down on the streets all alone"

      Some times, ya really need to get out.

    7. Re:causality by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      The 99% who follow the elite 1% who champion the narcissistic fuck out of social media platforms are depressed as shit thinking about how droll their lives are.

      But does knowing that make some of us feel better about our own lot in life (sure we might have problems, but we're not sad moppets like those people in TFA) in turn? And what further effects might that happiness of ours have on others, such as perhaps making some of them happy that there is still happiness (albeit at someone else's misery over someone else's happiness) to be found in this world.

      I'm not sure how deep the recursion goes, but it might be a net positive.

    8. Re: causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dull, not droll

      Learn to speak English

    9. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you looked at the heading and didn't even read the summary.

    10. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps people who are depressed and anxious seek out more social media.

      It can easily be both.
      If depressed people seek out more social media they are more likely to create a monoculture that reinforces the depression or causes it among those few who didn't have it to begin with.

    11. Re:causality by jandersen · · Score: 2

      Correlation does not imply causation. ...
      Perhaps people who are depressed and anxious seek out more social media.

      There was a time, when saying this would have made you seem insightful, but that time is long gone. Surprising as it may be to you, the people who actually work with the scientific study of depression and anxiety are generally capable of thinking about several aspects of their material, and it would be really, really weird if they hadn't already spotted this one, thought it through and realised why the causality doesn't go that way. It's good to be skeptical - that is what scientists are, and that is why fundamentalists always hate them - but if you want your views to be respected, then you have to show respect in return, among other things by not assuming the scientists are complete idiots.

    12. Re: causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Get a wife, kids and a full time job. You won't have time to feel sad about how amazing everyone else is because you're too busy being awesome your self. I login to Facebook once a week to remind my self that my life isn't half bad because I'm not on Facebook everyday posting useless information to make my self feel better.

    13. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to break this to you, but causation is not implied in the sentence you quoted. It simply indicates correlation.

    14. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why you should teach your sons to be nice to all the girls in school, because you never know who's gonna turn out to be fine as cherry wine.

      This is your only motivation for being nice to girls? Does this mean being nice to guys is just entirely pointless?

    15. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your solution for the social media blues is Truckin'? Well, I've heard crazier things.

    16. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you just wrote something that was on the very summary.

    17. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they got the cause and effect backwards?

      I doubt using 12 social media services causes depression.

      Good chance depression causes you to use 12 social media services.

    18. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brian [...] notes that the correlation is not certain (*). [...] "It may be that [depressed people] tend to [..] use [more] social [networks]. [...] However, it could also be that [using] multiple platforms may [..] lead to depression [...]. (**)

      Oooh, an opportunity for one of my favorite sayings...

          Correlation does not imply causation.

      Perhaps people who are depressed and anxious seek out more social media.

      Utterly fascinating that someone would moderate [the above] posting as "redundant" when it was the very first comment! Perhaps I don't understand what it means.

      Yes, clearly you should find one, or better two, reliable sources that explain to you in simple terms what redundant means, if you fail to see the redundant redundancy here. It will stop the whole matter from being "utterly fascinating", but you *will* have learned a new word.

      (*) In case you need it spelled out: This implies that it can not possibly imply causation.
      (**) Shortened for compatibility with your limited attention span and replaced most of the big boy words because you obviously don't read well.

    19. Re: causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who said he doesn't bang guys too?

    20. Re:causality by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      Utterly fascinating that someone would moderate MY posting as "redundant" when it was the very first comment! Perhaps I don't understand what it means.

      I hear you. I literally don't understand what literally means anymore ;-)

    21. Re:causality by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Does this mean being nice to guys is just entirely pointless?

      Yes.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    22. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the hot girls are now old, fat, grandmothers. It certainly depressed the fuck out of me.

      I looked up one of my college ex-girlfriends and was happy to see that I definitely got the best years of that one.

    23. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot oblig XKCD: https://xkcd.com/552/

    24. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or perhaps social media fuckwits are indeed fuckwits.

    25. Re:causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very much this.

      I use social media for work and have no weird mad depression issues.
      Occasionally I shitpost some memes at friends.

      People that constantly jump around wasting TIME on social media, now that is the issue.
      People that sit there idly hitting refresh on pages waiting for something to happen.
      These people are ALREADY DEPRESSED.
      I've had a few friends that were like this and managed to get over it. They use social media more than I do and haven't suddenly relapsed in to hyper depressive states.

      Idlers are the issue. Not people that actively engage and use things.
      People that get bored easily are also prone to falling in to this trap.
      Get a hobby. It helps a LOT to get out of the boredom and depression spiral.
      Pick a topic and try to do it at least once every other day for a solid hour or more.
      Drawing, painting, wood sculpting, electronics, embedded systems, robotics, music instrument.
      Maybe learn a new language. Maybe make that a programming language. Or the language of the universe, pick a science and get clicking. There's loads of areas from cancer research to neurology to materials science. Materials science is an exciting one, loads of exciting things will be coming out of that area in the next 20 years as we learn more about 2D chemistry and mass-produce it. A huge shift in the materials we use will happen. (already been a few the last decade as it is)
      Maybe take up some activity, like exercise, videogames, exploring some new movie, art or music.
      There's a huge number of things you can be wasting time on, instead of wasting it waiting idly by for an hour as nothing happens on your social sites.

    26. Re:causality by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I'm fine with not RTFAing, but if you RTFS you'd know that the scientists are pointing out that causation could go either way. I find it very plausible that a depressive might immerse himself or herself in social sites.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    27. Re:causality by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"I hate to break this to you, but causation is not implied in the sentence you quoted. It simply indicates correlation."

      I should have quoted the headline with it.

    28. Re: causality by billdale · · Score: 0

      OMG, this is important, everyone needs to be aware of the implications. Quick, I gotta post this on FB, Twitter, LinkedIn, Pinterest, Google, Instagram, Tumbler...

  2. Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Chas · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know. "It's all me! Me me me!"

    Yet, when all those social networks either ignore them, or unilaterally label them as the byproduct of an unsatisfactory immediate post-insertion premature ejaculation?

    It hurts its widdle feewings!

    --


    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
    1. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I do this because there are entire websites filled with SJWs mouthing lies from the MSM that I need to correct by posting links to documented facts from real news organizations!

    2. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly explains Wil Wheaton.

      Picard: Fire at will.
      Worf: Which one, sir?

    3. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't do this because I hate both the SJW and the right. The country is spewing hatred from both sides due to extreme polarization. I am doing my best to ignore it even though it is dividing our country.

    4. Re: Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding, nearly every right wing poster on here doesn't realize they're the right's equivalent of Trigglypuff.... Where's the middle intelligence?

    5. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whereas your cries for attention are much more valuable, obviously.

    6. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by mvdwege · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know what? If there is one generation that is 'Me! Me!' it is the boomers. The generation that found a cure for limp dicks to be more important than not destroying the planet.

      Mart (Gen-X)

      --
      "I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
    7. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Also the generation who grew up watching hours and hours of TV a day but whine about youngsters online.

      The generation who takes credit for things done by people born years before them (see: moon landing, computer pioneers etc).

      The generation who sees dope smoking as an evil, laziness-inducing blight on society when poor/black people do it, but 'medicine' when they need a smoke.

      The generation who when they do finally manage to lurk online spend much of their time posting about 'Hollyweird' and how young men these days are all faggots due to long hair/being skinny (Gee, let's see some pics of you in 1970 dude...)

      And so on. Never has a cohort had so many utterly clueless fucks who've happily thrown their own children under the bus.

    8. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can never tell if these posts are about liberal millennials or the alt-right. The former is supposed to be obsessed with social media and personal image, the latter complains loudly when their trolling gets them banned or is perceived to impinge on their precious freedom of speech.

      Both seem to be extremely thin-skinned, and in need of safe spaces to protect their feelings. Conservative groups have lists of college professors who offend them now, and demand respect for their views and beliefs. Both live in their own little bubbles and echo chambers. Both whine and complain constantly about hurt feelings and trivialities.

      Without context it's really hard figure out which group you are talking about.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    9. Re: Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      We keep to ourselves and let the idiots fight it out ;). I agree about the irony though.

    10. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      Thanks gramps. Its time for bingo now.

    11. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Also the generation who grew up watching hours and hours of TV a day but whine about youngsters online.

      Very stupid thing to compare those two things.

    12. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      The boy?

      --
      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
    13. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Chas · · Score: 1

      You can pay attention to me or not.
      It doesn't really matter.
      I'm officially fuck-free on the topic.
      If I gave a damn, I'd probably post AC like a little bitch.

      --


      Chas - The one, the only.
      THANK GOD!!!
    14. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Chas · · Score: 1

      I can never tell if these posts are about liberal millennials or the alt-right. The former is supposed to be obsessed with social media and personal image, the latter complains loudly when their trolling gets them banned or is perceived to impinge on their precious freedom of speech.

      Both seem to be extremely thin-skinned, and in need of safe spaces to protect their feelings. Conservative groups have lists of college professors who offend them now, and demand respect for their views and beliefs. Both live in their own little bubbles and echo chambers. Both whine and complain constantly about hurt feelings and trivialities.

      Without context it's really hard figure out which group you are talking about.

      Why can't the knife cut BOTH WAYS?

      --


      Chas - The one, the only.
      THANK GOD!!!
    15. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Why can't the knife cut BOTH WAYS?

      I guess it could, although I have to say that as a description of millennials it doesn't really seem to fit. Most of them seem resigned to how completely fucked they are, and are just trying to make the best of it.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    16. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by RedShoeRider · · Score: 1
      Your point is on point, but here's a dirty secret about the original Limp Dick Cure:

      "Originally, we were testing sildenafil, the active drug in Viagra, as a cardiovascular drug and for its ability to lower blood pressure,'' Dr. Brian Klee, senior medical director at Pfizer, told French news agency, AFP. "But one thing that was found during those trials is that people didn't want to give the medication back because of the side effect of having erections that were harder, firmer and lasted longer.''"

      They didn't set out to create a whole new market. It fell into their laps.

      --

      Chris Knight is my hero.

    17. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Let's see...I wear glasses to compensate for problems with my eyesight. I wear hearing aids to compensate for problems with my hearing. Summer before last, I used a cane to compensate for problems with walking. I use....you're probably happier not knowing about that. I take antidepressants to compensate for what are probably biochemical problems in my brain. I'm using all sorts of technology to compensate for things that don't work right with me. What's wrong with extending that to sexual function?

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    18. Re:Maybe this explains special snowflakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . The generation that found a cure for limp dicks to be more important than not destroying the planet.

      Mart (Gen-X)

      It was the same thing. The little blue pill distracted world power brokers from the big, red button.

  3. Correction to both TFA and TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brian A. Primack, lead author of the study, notes that the correlation is not certain.

    The data clearly showed correlation between depression and individual use of many social networks; but causation is not certain.

    1. Re:Correction to both TFA and TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Primack does provide a classic demonstration of social sciences so soft that they are beyond the power of Viagra to fix.

  4. depression and social networks may lead ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    ... to more studies.

    Hmm, maybe the point of this study was to generate more work for social scientists. Or maybe not. That's the nice thing about the word "may" - it could go either way.

  5. PLEASE MOD PARENT -1 REDUNDANT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the parent's haste to grab the first post, he failed to even fully read the summary. The summary offers two hypotheses. One is that people with depression use more social media networks in search of acceptance somewhere. The other hypothesis is that the stress caused by social media can lead to anxiety and depression. Although the headline describes one of those hypotheses, both are clearly presented in the summary. Therefore, there is nothing insightful about the parent. Please mod the parent -1 redundant.

    However, there may also be a feedback. If a person seeks acceptance in a wider variety of social media circles and fails to receive it, that may worsen the depression. The types of interactions by depressed people on social media may actually lead to rejection, especially from people not aware the person is suffering from mental illness. Therefore, it may be a combination of both, and feedback from rejection due to depressed behavior. That's a third hypothesis.

    1. Re:PLEASE MOD PARENT -1 REDUNDANT by arth1 · · Score: 2

      However, there may also be a feedback. If a person seeks acceptance in a wider variety of social media circles and fails to receive it, that may worsen the depression. The types of interactions by depressed people on social media may actually lead to rejection, especially from people not aware the person is suffering from mental illness. Therefore, it may be a combination of both, and feedback from rejection due to depressed behavior. That's a third hypothesis.

      Or there may be external factors that lead to both increases in depression and anxiety, and increases in social media usage, without either causing the other.
      Being without a job could be one such external factor.
      Going through a loss of a social partner (be it through death or break-up) could be another.

      The main problem I see here is how /. presents the story.

    2. Re:PLEASE MOD PARENT -1 REDUNDANT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consider the Mouse utopia , but instead of physical overcrowding our brains get overloaded with virtual associates. Now look at how people are behaving as more and more of their social world goes online - disinterest, lack of face-to-face interaction, comparing self with 'higher status' celebrities, sexual confusion - and you'll see the parallels with the unfortunate rodents.

    3. Re:PLEASE MOD PARENT -1 REDUNDANT by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Could it also be that people who spend more time in front of a screen are more depressed than those who spend more time interacting with other people face-to-face?

      --
      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
  6. I was going to say the same thing: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is probably people who don't conform to the facebook crowd, but who are really social creatures trying to find a niche they fit in with.

    I didn't find mine, but I started before social networks existed and came from the culture that considered that lack of privacy abhorrent. Nowadays the social networks I ply are lucky to include a few hundred people of which 1 or 2 I might tentatively call casual friends..

  7. My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like to txt friends and family on occasion. Sometimes I txt some photos too. It's a bit old style but I'm happy.

    1. Re:My social network is txt by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I tried that, but they didn't appreciate ASCII art.

        _  _.-"_< }
         ""--"" 7(
               /())
              / )/
             ^ ( \
               / /
              /.'
             //
      ______/L___

    2. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a bit old style but I'm happy.

      Older still: Teenagers tying up the home phone so much that the parents install a payphone, Brady-Bunch style.

      Even older: The Gossip Fence, Snuffy Smith style.

    3. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to hate it when the switchboard operator would listen in when I tried to call a girl and ask her for a date.

      Then I go to bed so I could wake up at 5:30 am and walk to school. Five miles away through the snow, uphill each way.

    4. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Sometimes I txt some photos too."
      Unfortunately, Slashdot is very unsocial here; they don't permit ASCII Art.
      They don't even allow Typewriter Art; this is from 1893:
      https://i2.wp.com/www.brainpickings.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/typewriterart28.jpg?w=680&ssl=1

    5. Re:My social network is txt by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then I go to bed so I could wake up at 5:30 am and walk to school. Five miles away through the snow, uphill each way.

      You had it easy. We had to crawl 10 miles each way through the snow over broken glass on our knees, dodging mortar rounds and horny priests.

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    6. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I used to hate it when the switchboard operator would listen in..."
      When we moved to rural California, we were on a "Party Line" shared by about a dozen families, all of whom seemed to have yammermouth Girls. Getting a line out combined technical skill and a fair amount of subterfuge... and _then_ you got to the Switchboard:
      "One ringy dingy... two ringy dingy... is this the party to whom I am speaking?" A combination of rings and spaces determined which "Party" incoming calls were meant for... but anybody could, and did, listen in.

      "...when I tried to call a girl and ask her for a date."
      Sorry, nada for me. The chortling and giggles in the background were just too much. We got our own line not long after moving in; a second separate telephone. Dad's late-night business calls to London had been quite the subject of local gossip.
      The Party Line actually continued long after everybody else got their own telephones... teenage girls....

    7. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knees? You had knees? We had bloody stumps!

    8. Re:My social network is txt by corando · · Score: 1

      Then I go to bed so I could wake up at 5:30 am and walk to school. Five miles away through the snow, uphill each way.

      You had it easy. We had to crawl 10 miles each way through the snow over broken glass on our knees, dodging mortar rounds and horny priests.

      Broken glass? ...Mortar rounds? ...Psst! If only I could only have been so lucky!
      We had to walk on our hands 20 miles each way over sharp volcanic rock, and could only dream of piles of snow, since it was still hot!

    9. Re:My social network is txt by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Because we use UTF16, you insensitive clod!

      --
      Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    10. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more please!

    11. Re:My social network is txt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory Monty Python :D
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FatHLHG2uGY

      You're Welcome :D

      "We were happier then. And we had nothing!"

    12. Re:My social network is txt by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Dad used to tell me that he had to go half a block to school through snow a quarter inch deep.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  8. Or selection bias? by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    Maybe they just couldn't find all the depressed users who aren't on 7 to 11 social networks. Because they're not on social networks.

    --
    How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
    1. Re:Or selection bias? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I didn't even know there were so many social networks.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    2. Re:Or selection bias? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      They're usually hanging out at 7-11 stores.

  9. Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Correlation does not imply causation. There, now that the elephant in the room has been addressed...

    I can totally see social media leading to depression long term. Seriously, you have an entire set of platforms dedicated to championing narcissism and self promotion. I mentioned this a while back in a post about LinkedIn -- one of the things that drives me nuts is, having LinkedIn contacts from the tech and the business world, I notice the business guys posting the same shallow crap they do on Facebook looking for a circle of positive affirmation.

    Why do I think it makes people depressed and anxious? A couple reasons...
    - It's one-sided -- no one posts about the totally uninteresting, crappy boring parts of their lives. Unless you're rich beyond imagination or a celebrity, everyone will have down moments in their lives, periods of disappointment, and very sad things happen to them.
    - There's a pressure to be "always on" -- Stemming from the one-sided positive view of everything, people who might not be doing so well might feel the pressure to act like everything's fine. Having been there, as everyone has, I can't imagine how that feels in social media happy-land...it sucks in real life! There's a constant pressure to be on 24/7, sharing amazing details of your life. Thinking that everyone except you is doing perfectly is a recipe for depression.
    - The trolls -- Oh, the trolls, the cyberbullies...The Internet in general and social media specifically brings out the worst in people because they feel they're protected from behind the nice safe keyboard. Look at any news site comments section that uses Facebook identities. Now, people who rant on MSN or CNN are a self-selecting bunch, I'll grant you that -- but take a look sometime and see what people post. You'll see some of the most hateful, racist, angry, spiteful, snide commentary...right next to "John Smith, History Teacher, East Nowhere High School." I've had moments where I've thought "No way, that can't be that person's real name and occupation!" -- and then gone to LinkedIn or similar and found out that yes, that history teacher, dental hygienist or business owner really does correspond to the profile. It's (in my opinion) a sad commentary on how un-civil we are to each other.

    Personally, I'm not a big fan. I'd rather blog or post long-form comments on places like this than be constantly tweeting out yet another happy status update to make other people miserable. I enjoy thinking before writing and tend to prefer civil conversations.

    1. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by adolf · · Score: 1

      Everyone has moments of downtime. Even the famously rich and/or the richly celebrated. Money can't buy me love, and sad songs aren't usually written by happy people.

      What bothers me most about this study is that it seems that the opposite correlation is also true: Depressed people might have a tendency to cling to more social networks than normal people. This is contrasted with the study's findings, wherein it is presumed that being on more social media networks creates depression.

      Many of us ("us," as in humans) have clinical depression. It's treatable, sorta-kinda-but-not-really, and sometimes fatal, no matter how good that person's life might look to an objective outsider.

      One example of a depressed person who had a very good lifestyle, by most standards, is Kurt Cobain: Self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head, very sad. This disease/illness/ailment/handicap/whatever is rather indiscriminate of wealth or status, social networks or not.

      And none of this is new. The only information this study seems to actually bring to light is that there might be more clinically-depressed people out there than we've ever realized.

    2. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I've had moments where I've thought "No way, that can't be that person's real name and occupation!" -- and then gone to LinkedIn or similar and found out that yes, that history teacher, dental hygienist or business owner really does correspond to the profile. It's (in my opinion) a sad commentary on how un-civil we are to each other.

      People like that have always existed, you just didn't know any of them or ever spend much time around them because you probably didn't frequent the same places and meat space only exposes you to so many people in situations where you can hear those kinds of opinions, but the internet is hardly responsible for any of this. If they weren't posting it to some website, they'd be in a local bar saying the same shit, only to a smaller audience. Trust me, I've seen people make those same kind of rants live and in person. As a quick aside, another alternative is that you perhaps don't recognize some of these rants because you happen to agree with them and don't mentally place them into the same category. Mostly another side effect of the fact that the company we keep tends to be of a similar mind to our own selves.

      The only thing the internet did was give everyone a platform to reach everyone else and the tools to find those kind of things which enrage us, which seems to be like some kind of god-damned magnet to the average human. I'm remind of a scene from the Howard Stern movie where he finds out that the people who say they hate him spend more time listening to his radio show than the people who like the show. There's another old saying about how some people aren't really happy unless they've got something to be angry about and the internet is a perfect machine for feeding the perpetual rage hungry that these people tend to have. Look at any news source that is heavily targeted towards conservatives or liberals or even any other political ideology. They contain very few stories about what their side or group is doing right, but a large amount of stories that will make their readers angry. Kind of weird that at the fringes there are people who define themselves less in terms of what they are and more so in terms of their opposition of some other group, or more accurately their flawed perception of it.

    3. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "no one posts about the totally uninteresting, crappy boring parts of their lives"

      you obviously haven't seen my facebook posts

    4. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by gravewax · · Score: 1

      you would have to be a farely unbalanced individual to feel the need to use that many different forms of social media, would not surprise me if they were already clinically depressed searching for attention/love/acceptance/friends etc

    5. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by Chriscypher · · Score: 1

      - It's one-sided -- no one posts about the totally uninteresting, crappy boring parts of their lives. Unless you're rich beyond imagination or a celebrity, everyone will have down moments in their lives, periods of disappointment, and very sad things happen to them.

      Are you kidding? One of the primary reasons I cannot stomach Facebook is the endless parade of food posts, selfies, religious quotes and other masterbatory re-posts which are the "totally uninteresting, crappy boring parts of their lives". Not everyone needs a bullhorn to inform the world what they had for lunch. It reminds me of that bumper sticker "I pooped today!". And. Yes. So has every healthy person on the planet.

      I would be very interested to see an analysis of what kinds of posts these "depressed" people are making on all these networks, because unless they are a misunderstood fount of insightful wisdom, I'm betting that that they are in an echo chamber of loneliness: They feel alone so they post something meh. No one responds. They post more. ("This is what the celebrity's post, why do I not have a million followers"). (crickets) They post more. Rinse, lather, depression.

      Some say it's fascinating that we created technology that puts the knowledge of the world at your fingertips just for the asking, but it's largely ignored. Can't be bothered to fact check! Forward that truthy email! It's common sense!

      An ironic corollary is that we have created networks which allow anyone to communicate with vast populations, yet its primarily used as a mouthpiece for demagogues and as a playground for narcissists.

      Would someone please think of the poor suffering narcissists!

      --
      "You have liberated me from thought."
    6. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by fisted · · Score: 1

      Correlation does not imply causation. There, now that the elephant in the room has been addressed...

      TFS addressed that elephant already.

    7. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      - It's one-sided -- no one posts about the totally uninteresting, crappy boring parts of their lives. Unless you're rich beyond imagination or a celebrity, everyone will have down moments in their lives, periods of disappointment, and very sad things happen to them.

      I remember back in the early aughts, when MySpace was still a thing. It seemed like you were just as likely to read an insightful post from an old high school friend about their struggle with cancer, or the mundane aspects of child rearing, or some inane rambling about traffic or global warming. There wasn't the focus on spinning oneself in a positive light. There was even a guy that would post anytime he had a particularly interesting poop (so maybe not civil conversation, but definitely not self-aggrandizing).

      Also, I would posit that the ridiculously wealthy also have down moments.

    8. Re:Everyone's saying it, so I will too... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Speaking as someone with overly many decades of dealing with depression, I can see depression leading to use of social media sites.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  10. Exposure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When you are exposed to that much stupidity it is depressing. When you learn how stupid the majority of people are, it can be quite depressing. This is seen across the entire internet, not just social media.

    I don't use "social media" but it is impossible not to be exposed to it everywhere online now. Sometimes I have to take a break from the internet (including slashdot) because the stupidity gets to me. When I was younger it used to make me very angry and depressed. Eventually I learned I can just "turn it off".

    Learning when to tune out all the stupidity that abounds online has helped my mental stability a great deal.

    1. Re:Exposure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meat space still has the same dumb people in it too. They are, after all, parallel universes.

    2. Re:Exposure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it is a question of quantity. The quantity of stupidity available online is much greater than one can encounter in person in daily life (which is bad enough).

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  12. Social network? by mejustme · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does Slashdot count as "social network?"

    F5'ing the homepage waiting for the next story so I can read through questionable comments may contribute to my depression.

    1. Re:Social network? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      Oh, hell no. Slashdot is my trolling network, as I love to troll the trolls here. Keeps me amused while I'm waiting for a script to get done at work. Needless to say, I run a lot of scripts.

    2. Re:Social network? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      No, Slashdot is an anti-social network. Therefore, lots of slashdotting should make one happy.

    3. Re:Social network? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

      Also, scripts are meant to automate tasks so you yourself can do more work while it;s running. Get ahead, get back to work!

    4. Re:Social network? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Does Slashdot count as "social network?"

      This is your brain on Slashdot. Not even once!

    5. Re:Social network? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Oh, hell no. Slashdot is my trolling network, as I love to troll the trolls here. Keeps me amused while I'm waiting for a script to get done at work. Needless to say, I run a lot of scripts.

      Me too. I was running scripts ALL day yesterday. Yep.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    6. Re:Social network? by gazelam · · Score: 1

      Unless there is a Slashdot mobile app that you can stare at vacuously while swerving all over the road, then it's not really a "social network".

    7. Re:Social network? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Also, scripts are meant to automate tasks so you yourself can do more work while it;s running. Get ahead, get back to work!

      I'm on an all-day chat call while I'm running scripts and commenting on Slashdot. If something comes up, I'm immediately available to assist.

    8. Re:Social network? by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

      It did for me. I went from thinking "what do I *want* to do," something constructive with positive possibilities, to wondering "when is there going to be something else for me to look at," a more passive and constantly wanting state of mind with no real state of satisfaction.

      I stopped all that and limit my online actvities and am much happier. The obsession of keeping up with various newsfeeds and comments is crap IMHO.

  13. Let me just post this to my social media accounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how many likes it will get!

  14. Get depressed? Media lib.sluts cause that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get out to the woods with a hot Trump babe, fuck her silly, catch some brookies, micro-photo a butterfly, roll a slim-Jim, tune into Mr Hendricks and drift away .

  15. Study of studies says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Headlines with "May Lead To Depression and Anxiety" cause depression and anxiety says meta-study.

  16. Goddamnit by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Goddammit, so depression is another thing I miss out on by not frittering my time away tweeting, instacrapping, or facebooking.

    How am I supposed to get a good, honest depression going without using these time-wasting shithole sites?

    Maybe I'll just have to resign myself to being happy.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  17. multiple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think they meant more than 0.

  18. seven to eleven???? by h4x0t · · Score: 2

    There are that many?

    If they all report news, I imagine those people quickly realize that everyone is withholding facts or just making things up as they go.

  19. I dunno by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't use any and I'm depressed and anxious anyway

  20. or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just use Slashdot.org, and be assured you will be anxious and depressed, as well as annoyed as fuck.
    "Slashdot.org, the one social network to use when you are thinking of using more than one"

  21. Black Mirror S03E01 - Nosedive by aneroid · · Score: 1

    Apart from the study was studying and what this episode portrays, Nosedive is very telling of how many people view, treat and are affected by social media.

  22. Because social media != human interaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And more and more people are using social media to replace that, these are the type of people that live on there phones texting.

    That and media induced fear, lots of people just don't want to go out, so social media is the next best thing. Fear also makes you depressed.

  23. They missed Slashdot by phantomfive · · Score: 0

    Of course. Slashdot's turned me into a raging psychopath bipolar who wants to kill you all.
    Nah, just kidding, I love you guys.
    Seriously though.
    Nah, I like talking to you all.
    But I mean, come on!

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  24. So basically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should give up on slashdot and only read soylentnews from now on. Got it.

  25. Easy diagnosys, easy prognosis. by aglider · · Score: 1
    Those who are on social networks are already suffering from depression.
    Those who are on multiple networks are multiply suffering for multiple depressions.
    Rise our eyes from your tiny screen: there a whole REAL world out there:

    Out there
    Theres a world outside of Yonkers
    Way out there beyond this hick town
    Barnaby

    --
    Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
    1. Re:Easy diagnosys, easy prognosis. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That sounds an awful lot like saying "Things aren't so bad. Why don't you just cheer up? You can decide that you'll be happy" to a depressive. It's one of the few things that provokes an instant anger response in me, because I've had experience with people telling me that and I know it's complete BS..

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  26. Social network addiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think people have more problems than depression if they belong to multiple social networks. It's obviously another addiction to wanting to feel important. My own personal view is that social networks don't feel the need for human interaction in real life. As much as people try, their is no replacement for face to face social interaction.

  27. and easy solution.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    easy solution: use only one social network but give your heart and soul and 20 hours a day to it and you'll live a happy full life!

  28. The heading could be reversed by billrp · · Score: 1

    "Depressed people use multiple social networks" - maybe using so many social networks is a form of therapy that is actually positive.

  29. Social media reveal depressing info about friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One possible explanation for the observed result:

    People very active on social media are probably more likely to find out depressing stuff like that some of their friends and relatives are racist crazy conspiracy-mongers and the like.

    E.g. we've got a friend we hang out with sometimes and enjoy some shared interests. We know from mutual friends (or ex-friends in his case) that lots of them followed his facebook feed and got disgusted with his politics and some of them avoid meeting with him now. We're blissfully ignorant and just enjoy doing our shared interests with him.

  30. Thanks for the fish by slapout · · Score: 1

    I guess no more Slashdot then

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    Coder's Stone: The programming language quick ref for iPad
  31. So ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... I should stock to 4chan /pol/ exclusively?

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  32. Nah, I think they're just like that naturally by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    My experience with Millennials is that they're depressed and anxiety-wracked (and angsty, and so totally emo) to start with. I think what's really going on here is that being on multiple 'social media' platforms just makes this fact very obvious (and painfully so to everyone else who has to be subjected to it). True, they should get off social media, stop being NEETs, get jobs, and do something useful with their time, other than whine and complain about 'tfw no gf' and 'I'm a manlet, should I kill myself?' and all the other things nobody cares about and they can't do anything about anyway.

  33. *11* Social media platforms? by hackel · · Score: 1

    I know I'm an old man now, and not technically a millennial (just barely, thank god), but who can possibly use 11 different social media platforms? How do that many even exist? Unless you're counting every random forum a person could ever participate in. Is Slashdot a "social media platform?" I sure as hell don't think so. Do they consider YouTube a social media platform? When I think social media, I think Facebook, Google+, and Twitter (and if I really stretch, Diaspora/GNUSocial). Maybe shit like Instagram can fit in there, but that's just part of Facebook, so doesn't really count. I don't think I'd even count Reddit as social media. All of these are surely "social" apps, but in my mind, "social media" deals specifically with sharing your own, personal content with others that you have connections to, not publishing for mass consumption. I could be wrong.

  34. All true by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

    Using social networking quickly exposes one to the mentally ill trolls, climate deniers, generally ignorant folks and opinionated know-how nothing's who you normally would be able to easily avoid IRL. That can be depressing. So much stupid.

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    Only boring people are ever bored.